Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 I meant apartment. >>>> I have had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 5-years-old. I use a wheelchair but can walk short distances on crutches. I am about to move into my own apartmart. Is there any type of funding to help me buy furniture? I've heard some people get 24 hours aides. How do they do that? Does anyone know? Thanks for reading this. Selena Cleveland Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Selena - can you contact your local Social Services maybe through the hospital? I've never heard about getting help with furniture, but you never know. Best of luck to you.....Doreen > > I meant apartment. > > >>>> > > I have had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 5-years-old. I use a > wheelchair but can walk short distances on crutches. I am about to > move into my own apartmart. Is there any type of funding to help me > buy furniture? I've heard some people get 24 hours aides. How do > they do that? Does anyone know? > > Thanks for reading this. > > Selena > Cleveland Ohio > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 What you need is an advocate- this usually is a social worker of some kind. Social Services sometimes helps with furniture/appliance vouchers (here in MI- each state is different), and the Salvation Army helps as well. Sometimes they'll tell you you don't qualify for some reason- never hang up the phone without asking if there is another organization that might be able to help you out. Call your local United Way. Each offers an information and referral service and keeps track of organizations in your community that provide specific kinds of assistance. Try to get multiple contacts- sometimes you just need to hook up with the right person. This is a case where persistence definitely pays off. Many communities have Disability Advocacy groups- usually these will have some kind of social worker who can help you out. Also, try things like Craigs List and Freecycle groups- I have seen a lot of good, used furniture given away for free. Freecycle's goal is to keep things out of the landfills and a lot of things are offered there that are in great condition, folks just don't have a use for them. Sometimes you can get help with transportation of the items too if you explain your situation. You live in a large enough community that there should be a lot of support out there. You just have to locate it. Good luck, ~Marie (who was a social worker in her previous life) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Hi Do you have freecycle in the USA? We have it here. We advertise things that we no longer need. It is for free and is a great way to recycle items of furniture,books and sometimes even livestock. If it is not up and running it may be worth starting a local group? Lots of luck x From: Mimi <mimi212@...> Subject: [ ] Re: looking for ideas Date: Monday, 9 February, 2009, 2:48 PM Selena - can you contact your local Social Services maybe through the hospital? I've never heard about getting help with furniture, but you never know. Best of luck to you.....Doreen > > I meant apartment. > > >>>> > > I have had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 5-years-old. I use a > wheelchair but can walk short distances on crutches. I am about to > move into my own apartmart. Is there any type of funding to help me > buy furniture? I've heard some people get 24 hours aides. How do > they do that? Does anyone know? > > Thanks for reading this. > > Selena > Cleveland Ohio > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 You might check with some of you local church groups also. We have a central  organization (Graceworks) in our town that many different church groups use that we refer individuals to so that services are not duplicated and all needs met in one location so people will not have to go to each church group and get a little here and something elso there. Graceworks provides food, clothing, furniture- even help with utility bills & medical care, meds, etc. They even have a group of volunteers that will help with delivery of bigger items if needed. Just about everyone in the community donates to this one group and they have lots of really nice stuff. They have such an overflow of things that they have even opened a thrift store and use the proceeds for utility bills,meds, etc. linda From: Mimi <mimi212@...> Subject: [ ] Re: looking for ideas Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 8:48 AM Selena - can you contact your local Social Services maybe through the hospital? I've never heard about getting help with furniture, but you never know. Best of luck to you.....Doreen > > I meant apartment. > > >>>> > > I have had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 5-years-old. I use a > wheelchair but can walk short distances on crutches. I am about to > move into my own apartmart. Is there any type of funding to help me > buy furniture? I've heard some people get 24 hours aides. How do > they do that? Does anyone know? > > Thanks for reading this. > > Selena > Cleveland Ohio > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Selena, Usually went I was able to refer someone for furniture is was because of fire, or some other disaster. Your situation is different from that, but I would still ask the same organizations. First, Call the United Way. Look for their INFOline phone number or website for your area. Ask if there is any organization that can help you locally. Have you thought of how you are going to get the furniture into your apartment? You should also ask about that as well. My other Favorite is Goodwill. Not just their thrif stores, you will need to call their administrative offices. And there is always Salvation Army. Great group Nof people. Can't say enough good about them. And you can tell them I said that! %^) Now be prepared to answer some personal questions. These are not because of the way the economy is right now, we have asked them for years. They are not asking these questions to be nosy, sometimes it is to put you in the correct 'box' for assistance. More impostantly it is to make sure that the scarce resources go to the most needy. Some of the question may be: Are you working? is so, how much money are you making? Do you have any cash on hand or in a bank account? Do you have any children in the home? Are you on disability? Again they will want to know how much money you are getting for a month. Are you on any type of aid? Do you have any special needs? For this you want to tell them about your need for assistance in walking, opening doors, using your bathroom. Will you need help is updating your aparment, so you can live there safely? I just want you to know that you will be asked questions. Expect it and be polite. Especially with INFOline, they are a referral system. They have access to many other non-profit groups, but they need to know about you to do that. So you might want to write down want you need. A bed, sofa, table, chairs, grab bars for getting in and out of the bath, those rubber covers for doorknobs. You get the picture, if you know what is a real gotta have it now verse nice to have, but it's not going to hurt to wait on it. For minor household items, you might want to hit up your extended family and friends for there set of dishes they do not use, or pots and pans. You never know what people have, unless you ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks, Doreen. I'll check into it. Selena > > > > I meant apartment. > > > > >>>> > > > > I have had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 5-years-old. I use a > > wheelchair but can walk short distances on crutches. I am about to > > move into my own apartmart. Is there any type of funding to help me > > buy furniture? I've heard some people get 24 hours aides. How do > > they do that? Does anyone know? > > > > Thanks for reading this. > > > > Selena > > Cleveland Ohio > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks, Marie. I'll look into all of that. How do I find Disability Advocacy groups? > > What you need is an advocate- this usually is a social worker of some kind. Social Services sometimes helps with furniture/appliance vouchers (here in MI- each state is different), and the Salvation Army helps as well. Sometimes they'll tell you you don't qualify for some reason- never hang up the phone without asking if there is another organization that might be able to help you out. > > Call your local United Way. Each offers an information and referral service and keeps track of organizations in your community that provide specific kinds of assistance. Try to get multiple contacts- sometimes you just need to hook up with the right person. This is a case where persistence definitely pays off. > > Many communities have Disability Advocacy groups- usually these will have some kind of social worker who can help you out. > > Also, try things like Craigs List and Freecycle groups- I have seen a lot of good, used furniture given away for free. Freecycle's goal is to keep things out of the landfills and a lot of things are offered there that are in great condition, folks just don't have a use for them. Sometimes you can get help with transportation of the items too if you explain your situation. > > You live in a large enough community that there should be a lot of support out there. You just have to locate it. > > Good luck, > ~Marie > (who was a social worker in her previous life) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 I will definitely check freecycle and craigslist. Thank you. > > > > > > I meant apartment. > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > I have had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 5-years-old. I use a > > > wheelchair but can walk short distances on crutches. I am about to > > > move into my own apartmart. Is there any type of funding to help me > > > buy furniture? I've heard some people get 24 hours aides. How do > > > they do that? Does anyone know? > > > > > > Thanks for reading this. > > > > > > Selena > > > Cleveland Ohio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 , Thanks for the advice. I plan to check out every place I can. Selena > > > > I meant apartment. > > > > >>>> > > > > I have had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 5-years-old. I use a > > wheelchair but can walk short distances on crutches. I am about to > > move into my own apartmart. Is there any type of funding to help me > > buy furniture? I've heard some people get 24 hours aides. How do > > they do that? Does anyone know? > > > > Thanks for reading this. > > > > Selena > > Cleveland Ohio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 , I figure it never hurts to ask. United Way, Good Will, and the Salvation Army. Okay. I'll try them. I have no problem with answering questions. I understand they need to know as much as possible to see if they can help. Selena > > Selena, > > Usually went I was able to refer someone for furniture is was because > of fire, or some other disaster. Your situation is different from > that, but I would still ask the same organizations. > > First, Call the United Way. Look for their INFOline phone number or > website for your area. Ask if there is any organization that can > help you locally. Have you thought of how you are going to get the > furniture into your apartment? You should also ask about that as > well. > > My other Favorite is Goodwill. Not just their thrif stores, you will > need to call their administrative offices. > > And there is always Salvation Army. Great group Nof people. Can't > say enough good about them. And you can tell them I said that! %^) > > Now be prepared to answer some personal questions. These are not > because of the way the economy is right now, we have asked them for > years. They are not asking these questions to be nosy, sometimes it > is to put you in the correct 'box' for assistance. More impostantly > it is to make sure that the scarce resources go to the most needy. > Some of the question may be: > > Are you working? is so, how much money are you making? > > Do you have any cash on hand or in a bank account? > > Do you have any children in the home? > > Are you on disability? Again they will want to know how much money > you are getting for a month. > > Are you on any type of aid? > > Do you have any special needs? For this you want to tell them about > your need for assistance in walking, opening doors, using your > bathroom. Will you need help is updating your aparment, so you can > live there safely? > > I just want you to know that you will be asked questions. Expect it > and be polite. Especially with INFOline, they are a referral > system. They have access to many other non-profit groups, but they > need to know about you to do that. So you might want to write down > want you need. A bed, sofa, table, chairs, grab bars for getting in > and out of the bath, those rubber covers for doorknobs. You get the > picture, if you know what is a real gotta have it now verse nice to > have, but it's not going to hurt to wait on it. > > For minor household items, you might want to hit up your extended > family and friends for there set of dishes they do not use, or pots > and pans. You never know what people have, unless you ask. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Jaxi, I don't know the answer straight off but have a couple of questions. Have you done the liver/gallbladder flush? I'm just asking because if we know the liver is not up to snuff it's pretty much required to do it. Also coffee enemas? You said you've been workind on detox pathways but didn't specify how. How long has it been since you stopped taking iodine (before the recent restart)? Did you continue all the companion nutrients while taking the break? ---------------- animal water bowl: my animals LOVE the iodine in the water also. I think changing once a day is plenty. I don't know the scientific answer, but iodine is a mineral. It seems to me that if it is in solution in water, it's not going to evaporate faster than the water itself. It's one thing if the iodine is on the skin and the water has all evaporated off, it's quite another when it's in solution. Yes, over time Lugol's can weaken, but that's after a year or two, and you just take more if you have an old bottle. hope this helps, -- At 10:49 AM 5/10/2011, you wrote: >Steph, , anyone who might want to chime in, > >I have a couple of questions - concerns and am hoping to get some ideas. > >I started iodine last fall. I worked my way up to 50 mg pretty quickly >and with manageable detox. Until the last few months. I started getting >worsening eczema on my forearms and nausea when taking iodine. Now I >thought the nausea was from the B vitamins and switched to a low odor B >vitamin, nausea continued. Depsite salt loading, detox baths, liver >support, etc the eczema was not improving either. So worsening eczema and >daily nausea for at least half the day. I decided for whatever reasons my >detox pathways needed additional work. I tried decreasing iodine dose. >That didn't help. > >Finally I decided to take an iodine break and really work on boosting the >liver. Things have been going well. I have been feeling pretty >good. Actually started loosing weight again. Have been aking the B >vitamins - no nausea. Eczema is better, not gone but better. I was in a >pretty good place and decided to start putting iodine back into the >picture. Bam, nausea back in full force. This is Iodoral, taken with >food. I have only started back with 12.5 mg, was hoping to work my way >back up again. > >I have liquid Lugols but have not experimented much with it internally as >I don't tend to eat breakfast at home. Mostly I use the liquid for the >animals and sometimes topical application. > >So - question one - any ideas why the nausea is so bad with the Iodoral, >which I thought was supposed to cause less nausea? And any ieas what I >might do about it? > >Also, this is just an I am wondering sort of question. I put a couple of >drops of Lugols in the animals' water dish every time I refill it. I am >wondering if anyone knows if the Lugols evaporates out of the water in a >specific amount of time or if is remains in the water without losing >potency? I am just curious because if I recall there is an issue of >Lugols losing potency if not tightly capped. Or I could be recalling that >incorrectly. Just wondering if I should be changing out their water more >often than once a day. I love my four legged kiddos and want the best for >them. One of the cats sits where the water bowl goes when I change out >the water, she loves it when it is fresh with the fresh iodine. :-) > >Jaxi > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 ,  I upped my ALA and milk thistle, I drink kombucha (I make my own) daily, DE daily, some of the other items might also be liver supports (my memory fails me at times) but I know ALA and milk thistle are the biggies. I have kept up all the companion nutrients.  I have not done the liver flush for a couple of reasons. Mostly I am worried it will cause me extended misery. I have UC and no gall bladder. Between diet and LDN I have things in good shape but to be honest deliberately causing D scares me. I don't drink fruit juices in general so the apple juice would be a stretch for me - especially 8-12 ounces of it. The lemon juice is fine, I drink at least a full lemon worth of juice daily - usually mixed with my kombucha. I have to watch oil and fat intake as it can make me feel not so good pretty fast, although I seem to be doing okay with high quality fish oil right now.  And I haven't done the enemas because A. I am a big baby and it reminds me too much of when I did the rowasa ones to manage the UC and B. I don't have an enema bag but I know I could " fix " that. LOL  Okay, as I process it here, the long and short of it is I am having some UC related PTSD and just kinda avoid " going there " but I need to get over it.  Sigh  I stopped the iodine at least a month ago, maybe closer to two months. It was shortly aftert the Japan earth quakes. I remember because I was really struggling with not stopping the iodine because of the radiation concerns and stopping the iodine because I was spending half the day wanting to throw up. And once I had played with the B vitamins and realized they weren't the issue I knew the iodine was. And it was, when I stopped it the nausea went away.  Jaxi    On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:35 AM, B <vbaker@...> wrote: Jaxi,I don't know the answer straight off but have a couple of questions.  Haveyou done the liver/gallbladder flush?  I'm just asking because if we know the liver is not up to snuff it's pretty much required to do it.  Alsocoffee enemas?  You said you've been workind on detox pathways but didn'tspecify how.How long has it been since you stopped taking iodine (before the recent restart)?   Did you continue all the companion nutrients while taking thebreak?----------------animal water bowl:  my animals LOVE the iodine in the water also.  I thinkchanging once a day is plenty.  I don't know the scientific answer, but iodine is a mineral.  It seems to me that if it is in solution in water,it's not going to evaporate faster than the water itself.  It's one thingif the iodine is on the skin and the water has all evaporated off, it's quite another when it's in solution.Yes, over time Lugol's can weaken, but that's after a year or two, and youjust take more if you have an old bottle.hope this helps,-- At 10:49 AM 5/10/2011, you wrote:>Steph, , anyone who might want to chime in,>>I have a couple of questions - concerns and am hoping to get some ideas. >>I started iodine last fall.  I worked my way up to 50 mg pretty quickly>and with manageable detox.  Until the last few months.  I started getting>worsening eczema on my forearms and nausea when taking iodine.  Now I >thought the nausea was from the B vitamins and switched to a low odor B>vitamin, nausea continued.  Depsite salt loading, detox baths, liver>support, etc the eczema was not improving either.  So worsening eczema and >daily nausea for at least half the day.  I decided for whatever reasons my>detox pathways needed additional work.  I tried decreasing iodine dose.>That didn't help.>>Finally I decided to take an iodine break and really work on boosting the >liver.  Things have been going well.  I have been feeling pretty>good.  Actually started loosing weight again.  Have been aking the B>vitamins - no nausea. Eczema is better, not gone but better.  I was in a >pretty good place and decided to start putting iodine back into the>picture.  Bam, nausea back in full force.  This is Iodoral, taken with>food.  I have only started back with 12.5 mg, was hoping to work my way >back up again.>>I have liquid Lugols but have not experimented much with it internally as>I don't tend to eat breakfast at home.  Mostly I use the liquid for the>animals and sometimes topical application. >>So - question one - any ideas why the nausea is so bad with the Iodoral,>which I thought was supposed to cause less nausea?  And any ieas what I>might do about it?>>Also, this is just an I am wondering sort of question.  I put a couple of >drops of Lugols in the animals' water dish every time I refill it.  I am>wondering if anyone knows if the Lugols evaporates out of the water in a>specific amount of time or if is remains in the water without losing >potency?  I am just curious because if I recall there is an issue of>Lugols losing potency if not tightly capped.  Or I could be recalling that>incorrectly.  Just wondering if I should be changing out their water more >often than once a day.  I love my four legged kiddos and want the best for>them.  One of the cats sits where the water bowl goes when I change out>the water, she loves it when it is fresh with the fresh iodine.  :-) >>Jaxi>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~       --A.J. 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Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Jaxi-- I understand your concerns. There is a discussion group here on specifically for the gallbladder/liver flush, and their intro material specifically says that they work with people without gb's as well as those with. You might explore the information they have to offer and ask some questions there. It seems clear that your detox pathways aren't working well, so you need to explore how to do some cleanses that won't throw you into decline. --V >, > >I upped my ALA and milk thistle, I drink kombucha (I make my own) daily, >DE daily, some of the other items might also be liver supports (my memory >fails me at times) but I know ALA and milk thistle are the biggies. I >have kept up all the companion nutrients. > >I have not done the liver flush for a couple of reasons. Mostly I am >worried it will cause me extended misery. I have UC and no gall >bladder. Between diet and LDN I have things in good shape but to be >honest deliberately causing D scares me. I don't drink fruit juices in >general so the apple juice would be a stretch for me - especially 8-12 >ounces of it. The lemon juice is fine, I drink at least a full lemon >worth of juice daily - usually mixed with my kombucha. I have to watch >oil and fat intake as it can make me feel not so good pretty fast, >although I seem to be doing okay with high quality fish oil right now. > >And I haven't done the enemas because A. I am a big baby and it reminds >me too much of when I did the rowasa ones to manage the UC and B. I don't >have an enema bag but I know I could " fix " that. LOL > >Okay, as I process it here, the long and short of it is I am having some >UC related PTSD and just kinda avoid " going there " but I need to get over it. > >Sigh > >I stopped the iodine at least a month ago, maybe closer to two months. It >was shortly aftert the Japan earth quakes. I remember because I was >really struggling with not stopping the iodine because of the radiation >concerns and stopping the iodine because I was spending half the day >wanting to throw up. And once I had played with the B vitamins and >realized they weren't the issue I knew the iodine was. And it was, when I >stopped it the nausea went away. > >Jaxi > > > >On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:35 AM, B ><<mailto:vbaker@...>vbaker@...> wrote: >Jaxi, > >I don't know the answer straight off but have a couple of questions. Have >you done the liver/gallbladder flush? I'm just asking because if we know >the liver is not up to snuff it's pretty much required to do it. Also >coffee enemas? You said you've been workind on detox pathways but didn't >specify how. > >How long has it been since you stopped taking iodine (before the recent >restart)? Did you continue all the companion nutrients while taking the >break? > >---------------- >animal water bowl: my animals LOVE the iodine in the water also. I think >changing once a day is plenty. I don't know the scientific answer, but >iodine is a mineral. It seems to me that if it is in solution in water, >it's not going to evaporate faster than the water itself. It's one thing >if the iodine is on the skin and the water has all evaporated off, it's >quite another when it's in solution. > >Yes, over time Lugol's can weaken, but that's after a year or two, and you >just take more if you have an old bottle. > >hope this helps, >-- > > > > > >At 10:49 AM 5/10/2011, you wrote: > > > >Steph, , anyone who might want to chime in, > > > >I have a couple of questions - concerns and am hoping to get some ideas. > > > >I started iodine last fall. I worked my way up to 50 mg pretty quickly > >and with manageable detox. Until the last few months. I started getting > >worsening eczema on my forearms and nausea when taking iodine. Now I > >thought the nausea was from the B vitamins and switched to a low odor B > >vitamin, nausea continued. Depsite salt loading, detox baths, liver > >support, etc the eczema was not improving either. So worsening eczema and > >daily nausea for at least half the day. I decided for whatever reasons my > >detox pathways needed additional work. I tried decreasing iodine dose. > >That didn't help. > > > >Finally I decided to take an iodine break and really work on boosting the > >liver. Things have been going well. I have been feeling pretty > >good. Actually started loosing weight again. Have been aking the B > >vitamins - no nausea. Eczema is better, not gone but better. I was in a > >pretty good place and decided to start putting iodine back into the > >picture. Bam, nausea back in full force. This is Iodoral, taken with > >food. I have only started back with 12.5 mg, was hoping to work my way > >back up again. > > > >I have liquid Lugols but have not experimented much with it internally as > >I don't tend to eat breakfast at home. Mostly I use the liquid for the > >animals and sometimes topical application. > > > >So - question one - any ideas why the nausea is so bad with the Iodoral, > >which I thought was supposed to cause less nausea? And any ieas what I > >might do about it? > > > >Also, this is just an I am wondering sort of question. I put a couple of > >drops of Lugols in the animals' water dish every time I refill it. I am > >wondering if anyone knows if the Lugols evaporates out of the water in a > >specific amount of time or if is remains in the water without losing > >potency? I am just curious because if I recall there is an issue of > >Lugols losing potency if not tightly capped. Or I could be recalling that > >incorrectly. Just wondering if I should be changing out their water more > >often than once a day. I love my four legged kiddos and want the best for > >them. One of the cats sits where the water bowl goes when I change out > >the water, she loves it when it is fresh with the fresh iodine. :-) > > > >Jaxi > > > > > > > > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group ><IodineOT/>http://health./\ group/IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked >questions: <http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e>http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e >Groups Links > ><iodine/>iodine/ > ><iodine/join>iodine\ /join > ( ID required) > ><mailto:iodine-fullfeatured >iodine-fullfeatured > ><mailto:iodine-unsubscribe >iodine-unsubscribe > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Thanks V ... I take it I really need to bite the bullet and do a serious liver detox. Maybe if I can suck it up this damn eczema will finally completely clear too. Nothing so annoying as eating right, getting excercise and generally trying to take care of myself and still having crud like that to deal with.  Do you think once I do manage to really clear the liver out the nausea will stop?  Jaxi On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:25 PM, B <vbaker@...> wrote: Jaxi--I understand your concerns.  There is a discussion group here on specifically for the gallbladder/liver flush, and their intro material specifically says that they work with people without gb's as well as thosewith.  You might explore the information they have to offer and ask somequestions there.It seems clear that your detox pathways aren't working well, so you need to explore how to do some cleanses that won't throw you into decline.--V >,>>I upped my ALA and milk thistle, I drink kombucha (I make my own) daily,>DE daily, some of the other items might also be liver supports (my memory>fails me at times) but I know ALA and milk thistle are the biggies.  I >have kept up all the companion nutrients.>>I have not done the liver flush for a couple of reasons.  Mostly I am>worried it will cause me extended misery.  I have UC and no gall>bladder.  Between diet and LDN I have things in good shape but to be >honest deliberately causing D scares me.  I don't drink fruit juices in>general so the apple juice would be a stretch for me - especially 8-12>ounces of it.  The lemon juice is fine, I drink at least a full lemon >worth of juice daily - usually mixed with my kombucha.  I have to watch>oil and fat intake as it can make me feel not so good pretty fast,>although I seem to be doing okay with high quality fish oil right now. >>And I haven't done the enemas because A.  I am a big baby and it reminds>me too much of when I did the rowasa ones to manage the UC and B.  I don't>have an enema bag but I know I could " fix " that.  LOL >>Okay, as I process it here, the long and short of it is I am having some>UC related PTSD and just kinda avoid " going there " but I need to get over it.>>Sigh>>I stopped the iodine at least a month ago, maybe closer to two months.  It >was shortly aftert the Japan earth quakes.  I remember because I was>really struggling with not stopping the iodine because of the radiation>concerns and stopping the iodine because I was spending half the day >wanting to throw up.  And once I had played with the B vitamins and>realized they weren't the issue I knew the iodine was.  And it was, when I>stopped it the nausea went away.>>Jaxi >>>>On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:35 AM, B ><<mailto:vbaker@...>vbaker@...> wrote:>Jaxi,>>I don't know the answer straight off but have a couple of questions.  Have >you done the liver/gallbladder flush?  I'm just asking because if we know>the liver is not up to snuff it's pretty much required to do it.  Also>coffee enemas?  You said you've been workind on detox pathways but didn't >specify how.>>How long has it been since you stopped taking iodine (before the recent>restart)?   Did you continue all the companion nutrients while taking the>break?>>---------------- >animal water bowl:  my animals LOVE the iodine in the water also.  I think>changing once a day is plenty.  I don't know the scientific answer, but>iodine is a mineral.  It seems to me that if it is in solution in water, >it's not going to evaporate faster than the water itself.  It's one thing>if the iodine is on the skin and the water has all evaporated off, it's>quite another when it's in solution.> >Yes, over time Lugol's can weaken, but that's after a year or two, and you>just take more if you have an old bottle.>>hope this helps,>-->>>> >>At 10:49 AM 5/10/2011, you wrote:>>> >Steph, , anyone who might want to chime in,> >> >I have a couple of questions - concerns and am hoping to get some ideas. > >> >I started iodine last fall.  I worked my way up to 50 mg pretty quickly> >and with manageable detox.  Until the last few months.  I started getting> >worsening eczema on my forearms and nausea when taking iodine.  Now I > >thought the nausea was from the B vitamins and switched to a low odor B> >vitamin, nausea continued.  Depsite salt loading, detox baths, liver> >support, etc the eczema was not improving either.  So worsening eczema and > >daily nausea for at least half the day.  I decided for whatever reasons my> >detox pathways needed additional work.  I tried decreasing iodine dose.> >That didn't help.> >> >Finally I decided to take an iodine break and really work on boosting the > >liver.  Things have been going well.  I have been feeling pretty> >good.  Actually started loosing weight again.  Have been aking the B> >vitamins - no nausea. Eczema is better, not gone but better.  I was in a > >pretty good place and decided to start putting iodine back into the> >picture.  Bam, nausea back in full force.  This is Iodoral, taken with> >food.  I have only started back with 12.5 mg, was hoping to work my way > >back up again.> >> >I have liquid Lugols but have not experimented much with it internally as> >I don't tend to eat breakfast at home.  Mostly I use the liquid for the> >animals and sometimes topical application. > >> >So - question one - any ideas why the nausea is so bad with the Iodoral,> >which I thought was supposed to cause less nausea?  And any ieas what I> >might do about it?> > > >Also, this is just an I am wondering sort of question.  I put a couple of> >drops of Lugols in the animals' water dish every time I refill it.  I am> >wondering if anyone knows if the Lugols evaporates out of the water in a > >specific amount of time or if is remains in the water without losing> >potency?  I am just curious because if I recall there is an issue of> >Lugols losing potency if not tightly capped.  Or I could be recalling that > >incorrectly.  Just wondering if I should be changing out their water more> >often than once a day.  I love my four legged kiddos and want the best for> >them.  One of the cats sits where the water bowl goes when I change out > >the water, she loves it when it is fresh with the fresh iodine.  :-)> >> >Jaxi> >> >> >>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ >        --A.J. Muste>>>>------------------------------------>>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT>group><IodineOT/>IodineOT/ >>>Commonly asked>questions:  <http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e>http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e >Groups Links>><iodine/>iodine/ >><iodine/join>iodine/join >   ( ID required)>><mailto:iodine-fullfeatured >iodine-fullfeatured >><mailto:iodine-unsubscribe >iodine-unsubscribe >>>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~       --A.J. Muste------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group  IodineOT/ Commonly asked questions:  http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Funny you should mention this, because as I sit here at the keyboard, the backs of my hands are blood-red with eczema & greased up with ointment to soothe the itching & burning. (I leave a shiny slug trail wherever I go.)I am pretty sure my liver is in deep trouble, & I have been accumulating the goodies for a liver cleanse (long overdue.) I was originally going to do the cleanse in December, but then my appendix went ballistic. The eczema started in January or February, as a few tiny, inconsequential patches, & has gradually progressed. I am not a happy camper. I don't have a gall bladder, either, & the cleanse has always sounded so unpleasant that I kept putting it off. Oops! I am kind of concerned that I may not make it through the liver cleanse...I started taking the Gold Coin Grass a few days ago, & I actually feel significantly worse. I don't really understand this, since I have been working on detox for so long. I have been on iodine for almost a year & a half. I have done colon cleanses, drink water, take liver support supplements. (I have taken different supplements, in hopes that if each one did something a bit different, over time, they would do a lot of the preliminary cleaning out.) You would have thought that a lot of the work I had already done would have reduced the amount of toxicity that could be hanging out in my liver. Oops!Right now, I am trying to firm up my plan, but there are some things I need to schedule around. And I am still reluctant. I guess the eczema is motivation not to stall any more.Sometimes there is no way out but through. I will report back.AnneOn May 10, 2011, at 8:49 AM, jaxi wrote: Steph, , anyone who might want to chime in, I have a couple of questions - concerns and am hoping to get some ideas. I started iodine last fall. I worked my way up to 50 mg pretty quickly and with manageable detox. Until the last few months. I started getting worsening eczema on my forearms and nausea when taking iodine. Now I thought the nausea was from the B vitamins and switched to a low odor B vitamin, nausea continued. Depsite salt loading, detox baths, liver support, etc the eczema was not improving either. So worsening eczema and daily nausea for at least half the day. I decided for whatever reasons my detox pathways needed additional work. I tried decreasing iodine dose. That didn't help. Finally I decided to take an iodine break and really work on boosting the liver. Things have been going well. I have been feeling pretty good. Actually started loosing weight again. Have been aking the B vitamins - no nausea. Eczema is better, not gone but better. I was in a pretty good place and decided to start putting iodine back into the picture. Bam, nausea back in full force. This is Iodoral, taken with food. I have only started back with 12.5 mg, was hoping to work my way back up again. I have liquid Lugols but have not experimented much with it internally as I don't tend to eat breakfast at home. Mostly I use the liquid for the animals and sometimes topical application. So - question one - any ideas why the nausea is so bad with the Iodoral, which I thought was supposed to cause less nausea? And any ieas what I might do about it? Also, this is just an I am wondering sort of question. I put a couple of drops of Lugols in the animals' water dish every time I refill it. I am wondering if anyone knows if the Lugols evaporates out of the water in a specific amount of time or if is remains in the water without losing potency? I am just curious because if I recall there is an issue of Lugols losing potency if not tightly capped. Or I could be recalling that incorrectly. Just wondering if I should be changing out their water more often than once a day. I love my four legged kiddos and want the best for them. One of the cats sits where the water bowl goes when I change out the water, she loves it when it is fresh with the fresh iodine. :-) Jaxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Jaxi, that's what it sounds like to me. And yes, I really do think you'll stop being nauseous. I could be wrong, but I believe I am correct. And about that flush list, if you would join that list you could report back if they are any good or not. It would be very helpful to know if they are reliable to send people to. About the apple juice. That's only for the malic acid, which softens the stones to make them easier to pass. Just use malic acid capsules or powder, which is not expensive, and is stronger, concentrated, and you don't add sugar to your system. But I'd ask on that flush list about not having a gallbladder. I know you folks have to really watch oils and fats, so I'd want to really know how people without gb's approach it. --V >Thanks V ... I take it I really need to bite the bullet and do a serious >liver detox. Maybe if I can suck it up this damn eczema will finally >completely clear too. Nothing so annoying as eating right, getting >excercise and generally trying to take care of myself and still having >crud like that to deal with. > >Do you think once I do manage to really clear the liver out the nausea >will stop? > >Jaxi > >On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:25 PM, B ><<mailto:vbaker@...>vbaker@...> wrote: >Jaxi-- > >I understand your concerns. There is a discussion group here on >specifically for the gallbladder/liver flush, and their intro material >specifically says that they work with people without gb's as well as those >with. You might explore the information they have to offer and ask some >questions there. > >It seems clear that your detox pathways aren't working well, so you need to >explore how to do some cleanses that won't throw you into decline. > >--V > > >, > > > >I upped my ALA and milk thistle, I drink kombucha (I make my own) daily, > >DE daily, some of the other items might also be liver supports (my memory > >fails me at times) but I know ALA and milk thistle are the biggies. I > >have kept up all the companion nutrients. > > > >I have not done the liver flush for a couple of reasons. Mostly I am > >worried it will cause me extended misery. I have UC and no gall > >bladder. Between diet and LDN I have things in good shape but to be > >honest deliberately causing D scares me. I don't drink fruit juices in > >general so the apple juice would be a stretch for me - especially 8-12 > >ounces of it. The lemon juice is fine, I drink at least a full lemon > >worth of juice daily - usually mixed with my kombucha. I have to watch > >oil and fat intake as it can make me feel not so good pretty fast, > >although I seem to be doing okay with high quality fish oil right now. > > > >And I haven't done the enemas because A. I am a big baby and it reminds > >me too much of when I did the rowasa ones to manage the UC and B. I don't > >have an enema bag but I know I could " fix " that. LOL > > > >Okay, as I process it here, the long and short of it is I am having some > >UC related PTSD and just kinda avoid " going there " but I need to get > over it. > > > >Sigh > > > >I stopped the iodine at least a month ago, maybe closer to two months. It > >was shortly aftert the Japan earth quakes. I remember because I was > >really struggling with not stopping the iodine because of the radiation > >concerns and stopping the iodine because I was spending half the day > >wanting to throw up. And once I had played with the B vitamins and > >realized they weren't the issue I knew the iodine was. And it was, when I > >stopped it the nausea went away. > > > >Jaxi > > > > > > > >On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:35 AM, B > ><<mailto:vbaker@...><mailto:vbaker@...>vbaker@...> wrote: > >Jaxi, > > > >I don't know the answer straight off but have a couple of questions. Have > >you done the liver/gallbladder flush? I'm just asking because if we know > >the liver is not up to snuff it's pretty much required to do it. Also > >coffee enemas? You said you've been workind on detox pathways but didn't > >specify how. > > > >How long has it been since you stopped taking iodine (before the recent > >restart)? Did you continue all the companion nutrients while taking the > >break? > > > >---------------- > >animal water bowl: my animals LOVE the iodine in the water also. I think > >changing once a day is plenty. I don't know the scientific answer, but > >iodine is a mineral. It seems to me that if it is in solution in water, > >it's not going to evaporate faster than the water itself. It's one thing > >if the iodine is on the skin and the water has all evaporated off, it's > >quite another when it's in solution. > > > >Yes, over time Lugol's can weaken, but that's after a year or two, and you > >just take more if you have an old bottle. > > > >hope this helps, > >-- > > > > > > > > > > > >At 10:49 AM 5/10/2011, you wrote: > > > > > > >Steph, , anyone who might want to chime in, > > > > > >I have a couple of questions - concerns and am hoping to get some ideas. > > > > > >I started iodine last fall. I worked my way up to 50 mg pretty quickly > > >and with manageable detox. Until the last few months. I started getting > > >worsening eczema on my forearms and nausea when taking iodine. Now I > > >thought the nausea was from the B vitamins and switched to a low odor B > > >vitamin, nausea continued. Depsite salt loading, detox baths, liver > > >support, etc the eczema was not improving either. So worsening eczema and > > >daily nausea for at least half the day. I decided for whatever reasons my > > >detox pathways needed additional work. I tried decreasing iodine dose. > > >That didn't help. > > > > > >Finally I decided to take an iodine break and really work on boosting the > > >liver. Things have been going well. I have been feeling pretty > > >good. Actually started loosing weight again. Have been aking the B > > >vitamins - no nausea. Eczema is better, not gone but better. I was in a > > >pretty good place and decided to start putting iodine back into the > > >picture. Bam, nausea back in full force. This is Iodoral, taken with > > >food. I have only started back with 12.5 mg, was hoping to work my way > > >back up again. > > > > > >I have liquid Lugols but have not experimented much with it internally as > > >I don't tend to eat breakfast at home. Mostly I use the liquid for the > > >animals and sometimes topical application. > > > > > >So - question one - any ideas why the nausea is so bad with the Iodoral, > > >which I thought was supposed to cause less nausea? And any ieas what I > > >might do about it? > > > > > >Also, this is just an I am wondering sort of question. I put a couple of > > >drops of Lugols in the animals' water dish every time I refill it. I am > > >wondering if anyone knows if the Lugols evaporates out of the water in a > > >specific amount of time or if is remains in the water without losing > > >potency? I am just curious because if I recall there is an issue of > > >Lugols losing potency if not tightly capped. Or I could be recalling that > > >incorrectly. Just wondering if I should be changing out their water more > > >often than once a day. I love my four legged kiddos and want the best for > > >them. One of the cats sits where the water bowl goes when I change out > > >the water, she loves it when it is fresh with the fresh iodine. :-) > > > > > >Jaxi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > >group > ><<IodineOT/>http://health.groups.yah > oo.com/group/IodineOT/>IodineOT/ > > > > > >Commonly asked > >questions: > <<http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e>http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e>http://tinyurl.com/yhnds\ 5e > > >Groups Links > > > ><<iodine/>iod > ine/>iodine/ > > > ><<iodine/join>group > /iodine/join>iodine/join > > ( ID required) > > > ><mailto:iodine-fullfeatured ><mailto:iodine-fullfeatured@y > ahoogroups.com>iodine-fullfeatured > > > ><mailto:iodine-unsubscribe ><mailto:iodine-unsubscribe@yah > oogroups.com>iodine-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group ><IodineOT/>http://health./\ group/IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked >questions: <http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e>http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e >Groups Links > ><iodine/>iodine/ > ><iodine/join>iodine\ /join > ( ID required) > ><mailto:iodine-fullfeatured >iodine-fullfeatured > ><mailto:iodine-unsubscribe >iodine-unsubscribe > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Jaxi, Are you taking bile salts to compensate for no gall bladder? Linn > > > > > > > > > >Steph, , anyone who might want to chime in, > > > > > > > >I have a couple of questions - concerns and am hoping to get some ideas. > > > > > > > >I started iodine last fall. I worked my way up to 50 mg pretty quickly > > > >and with manageable detox. Until the last few months. I started > > getting > > > >worsening eczema on my forearms and nausea when taking iodine. Now I > > > >thought the nausea was from the B vitamins and switched to a low odor B > > > >vitamin, nausea continued. Depsite salt loading, detox baths, liver > > > >support, etc the eczema was not improving either. So worsening eczema > > and > > > >daily nausea for at least half the day. I decided for whatever reasons > > my > > > >detox pathways needed additional work. I tried decreasing iodine dose. > > > >That didn't help. > > > > > > > >Finally I decided to take an iodine break and really work on boosting > > the > > > >liver. Things have been going well. I have been feeling pretty > > > >good. Actually started loosing weight again. Have been aking the B > > > >vitamins - no nausea. Eczema is better, not gone but better. I was in a > > > >pretty good place and decided to start putting iodine back into the > > > >picture. Bam, nausea back in full force. This is Iodoral, taken with > > > >food. I have only started back with 12.5 mg, was hoping to work my way > > > >back up again. > > > > > > > >I have liquid Lugols but have not experimented much with it internally > > as > > > >I don't tend to eat breakfast at home. Mostly I use the liquid for the > > > >animals and sometimes topical application. > > > > > > > >So - question one - any ideas why the nausea is so bad with the Iodoral, > > > >which I thought was supposed to cause less nausea? And any ieas what I > > > >might do about it? > > > > > > > >Also, this is just an I am wondering sort of question. I put a couple > > of > > > >drops of Lugols in the animals' water dish every time I refill it. I am > > > >wondering if anyone knows if the Lugols evaporates out of the water in a > > > >specific amount of time or if is remains in the water without losing > > > >potency? I am just curious because if I recall there is an issue of > > > >Lugols losing potency if not tightly capped. Or I could be recalling > > that > > > >incorrectly. Just wondering if I should be changing out their water > > more > > > >often than once a day. I love my four legged kiddos and want the best > > for > > > >them. One of the cats sits where the water bowl goes when I change out > > > >the water, she loves it when it is fresh with the fresh iodine. :-) > > > > > > > >Jaxi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > >group > > ><IodineOT/> > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > >Commonly asked > > >questions: <http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e>http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e! > > >Groups Links > > > > > ><iodine/> > > iodine/ > > > > > ><iodine/join> > > iodine/join > > > ( ID required) > > > > > ><mailto:iodine-fullfeatured > > > iodine-fullfeatured > > > > > ><mailto:iodine-unsubscribe > > > iodine-unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > > --A.J. Muste > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group > > IodineOT/ > > > > > > Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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