Larry

[Guest guest]

Hi Larry!

I am soooo sorry you are having a rough recovery. I sure hope each day

gets easier for you. Believe me, I know what it's like to go through a rough

recovery and I know it's not fun! I am going to give you my best advice

which is to hang in there, take things as they happen, believe that you did the

right thing by going for the surgery, take as many naps during the day as

you need to and remember what Jackie often types in here " you will never have

the opportunity to be pampered like this again! " Sorry Jackie but I just had

to use your quote. ;-)

Hoping things improve for you soon, Larry!

Patti

Surgery Day 11/25/02 (What A Day!)

Hook Up Day BWP 1/2/03 (A Happy Day!)

3G 1/31/03 (An Even Happier Day!)

[Guest guest]

I guess curriosity really killed the cat. I took the tape off the nucleus

equipment. and I find voila!!! Loads of 6755 hearing aidd batteries. Mine was

about to go down anyway so I put one of the new ones in my hearing aids and I

find out it gives better sound than the radioshack batteries.

I know it sounds very selfish, but I will have to live from day to day and

stop letting Sharron getting me down. Her stroke I can't control. I still love

her though and need her desperately.

Larry missing Sharon

[Guest guest]

Larry,

So sorry to hear about your wife. It's a very stressful time for you both.

Unfortunately I have learned that CI's and stress don't work well together.

You will need your rest so you'll be able to help your wife and yourself of

course. As the saying goes

" one day at a time " ..Remember the Lord has a plan for us all. We might not

understand but try to focus on all the good in your live both past and yet

to come..God bless you and your family.

D.

_____

[Guest guest]

>>I know it sounds very selfish, but I will have to live from day to day and

stop letting Sharon getting me down. Her stroke I can't control. I still

love her though and need her desperately.<<

Hi Larry,

I'm very sorry to hear about Sharon. However, I'm glad you're okay and have

decided to take things one day at a time. Alice is exactly right when she

says that sometimes we need to take a moment to think of ourselves. It

doesn't mean that you love Sharon any less -- it just means that you need to

time out to love and care for yourself.

I can emphasize with your situation. I found out this weekend that my mother

has stomach cancer and will need chemotherapy. She's doing really well at

the moment but the news hit our family quite hard because it was so

unexpected.

I'll be thinking of you and Sharon. In the meantime, please try to take it

easy and do something good for yourself. You deserve it, my friend.

Hugs,

[Guest guest]

Hi Larry,

First, I am glad to learn that your operation is pretty much out of the way

now and sure the healing will progress well with the attitude of yours. It

is important to you and to Sharon that love continues to flow between you.

But your first priority has to be you day to day for if it is not the case,

you will not be able to be what you se dearly wish to be, a positive

element in the life of your Sharon.

Keep up with that attitude and, come the 15th, your activation has a very

good chance to be a successfull one.

Jean

At 11:02 2004-10-05, you wrote:

> I guess curriosity really killed the cat. I took the tape off the

> nucleus equipment. and I find voila!!! Loads of 6755 hearing aidd

> batteries. Mine was about to go down anyway so I put one of the new ones

> in my hearing aids and I find out it gives better sound than the

> radioshack batteries.

> I know it sounds very selfish, but I will have to live from day to

> day and stop letting Sharron getting me down. Her stroke I can't control.

> I still love her though and need her desperately.

>Larry missing Sharon

>

>

[Guest guest]

Swapping CI's by those with bilaterals have been known to totally

reverse themselves. You know, its kinda like polarity where white

becomes blaak or black becomes white. Left goes right and right goes

left. Oh lordy! Dont take chances, yuh just dont know what will

happen. Larry could well turn into yrraL.

(shakes head at this)

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked

something.

--

& Gimlet (Guide Dawggie)

Portland, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rlclark77@...

http://home.comcast.net/~rlclark77/

[Guest guest]

Hi, Larry,

Congratulations on your terrific turn-on! Despite the voices sunding

cartoonish, if you are understanding things, and without the help of your

hearing aid, that is amazing! More wonderful sounds are about to come your

way!

Continued good luck, Larry!

) Jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi Larry!

I'm so glad things are improving for you CI wise. Isn't it

AWESOME?!!! 8-) I really enjoyed reading your phone CI moment.

It took me months to get brave to pick up the phone. Talking on the

phone is no small feat. Congratulations Larry! I'm thrilled the CI

has worked out sooo well for you! Keep those posts coming!

Continued success to you!

Patti

Surgery Day 11/25/02 (What A Day!)

Hook Up Day BWP 1/2/03 (A Happy Day!)

3G 1/31/03 (A Happy Day!)

[Guest guest]

Hi Alice,

I am using the 3D, and I think it is wonderful. I thought I would want a

bwp, but the 3g is good nough for me.

I am planning to go to a concert featurng Aretha lin and the Arkansas

Symphony Orchestra. Do you think this might be overdoing it? Do you think she

will sound like a screechy old housewife? Maybe she will still sound like she is

driving down the freeway of love in her pink cadillac..

Do you know what happened to and Jacques? I have the same condition

which made them totally blind. Larry

[Guest guest]

How was Aretha's show " Curious to see how concerts are for ci users since they

are not made for music.

> Re: Larry

>Hi Alice,

> I am using the 3D, and I think it is wonderful. I thought I would want a

bwp, but the 3g is good nough for me.

> I am planning to go to a concert featurng Aretha lin and the Arkansas

Symphony Orchestra. Do you think this might be overdoing it? Do you think she

will sound like a screechy old housewife? Maybe she will still sound like she is

driving down the freeway of love in her pink cadillac..

> Do you know what happened to and Jacques? I have the same condition

which made them totally blind. Larry

>

[Guest guest]

Alice

I get to see Sharon when I can. They have transportation for the disabled in

Little Rock called links. You are required to call 2 weeks in advance, and you

can be bumped without notice.

I have people that go to my church that are willing to take me to Parkview,

but I'm afraid they will get tired of it. I got to spend time with Sharon today,

and I will eat lunch and spend the day tomorrow.

Sharon finally has a nice roommate.

Oops, I'm sorry this wasn't about ci. I will try to do better. Larry

[Guest guest]

Larry,

You are not the only not on any meds. I too do not take any meds for my RA.

I went into a remission of sorts after some major surgery. The lifestyle

changes after my weightloss surgery made more of a difference than any meds

could. I also could not afford the cost of the meds. I also had every side

effect

there was and the was miserably sick on the meds.

I feel so much better off meds. yes I do have some aches, pains and

stiffness. I just deal with it and keep moving. I am hoping to return to work

fulltime very soon. I am hoping that the stresses of working will not

necessitate

returning to RA meds because it will have to get pretty bad before I even think

about it.

Toni

In a message dated 1/16/2005 2:12:14 AM Central Standard Time,

writes:

Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:49:20 -0800 (PST)

From: Larry Holmack <bichondaddy1057@...>

Subject: Re: Re: husband's anger outbursts

HI...

I can relate tto the husband and the angry outburst. I am probably one of the

very few people not on any Rx meds at all for my RA. Yes...none. I went

without medical insurance for nearly 2 years, and have learned to deal with the

pain, lack of energy...etc...etc...everything that we have to put up with..no

meds at all. I take only OTC meds...Tylenol, and Aleve. I have kidney problems

and most of the RA meds seem to do wierd things to the kidneys if you already

have a problem with them, so I chose not to take anything at all. To top things

off..I have sleep Apnea also, and luckily I have a CPAP Machine so I can at

least get a good nights sleep...sometimes. I can usually sleep 3 or 4 hours

before the pain wakes me up...but I manage

[Guest guest]

Weightloss is not always the answer.. I did not get sick with RA until I HAD the

weightloss surgery , changed my lifestyle , did all the things I was supposed to

, lost weight.. Crazy hey? I am sicker than I ever have been.

Faith

--------- Re: Re: husband's anger outbursts

HI...

I can relate tto the husband and the angry outburst. I am probably one of the

very few people not on any Rx meds at all for my RA. Yes...none. I went

without medical insurance for nearly 2 years, and have learned to deal with the

pain, lack of energy...etc...etc...everything that we have to put up with..no

meds at all. I take only OTC meds...Tylenol, and Aleve. I have kidney problems

and most of the RA meds seem to do wierd things to the kidneys if you already

have a problem with them, so I chose not to take anything at all. To top things

off..I have sleep Apnea also, and luckily I have a CPAP Machine so I can at

least get a good nights sleep...sometimes. I can usually sleep 3 or 4 hours

before the pain wakes me up...but I manage

[Guest guest]

hello ,

I don't know why I lost my hearing so suddenly before my second implant.

I had a major ear infection in that ear, and after it healed, my hearing

went away like a favorite song fading in to the air.

Yes, I have Norries disease. My nephew, Chad, also has Norries. He is

24 years old and is totally blind like myself. He lost his hearing much

more rapidly than I did and now has a severe hearing loss. have a

rewarding day Larry

Larry

> Larry,

>

> If you don't mind my asking, how did you suddenly lose the rest of your

> residual hearing in your nonimplanted ear? In previous messages to the

> list

> you mentioned that you had Norrie's. Was your progressive hearing loss a

> result of that?

>

> In my case, I haven't lost any residual hearing in my nonimplanted ear

> since

> it was tested last year. After several months of trying to use an analog

> and

> digital aid in my nonimplanted ear it became more difficult for me to

> understand what I was hearing through my CI and hearing aid because the

> hearing aid distorted everything I heard. In addition, my formerly good

> ear

> became weaker while my formerly poor ear became stronger because of the

> CI.

> Some adjustments were made to my analog hearing aid a few months ago, but

> I

> don't notice any improvement in speech understanding.

>

> I continue to wear a hearing aid in my nonimplanted ear, but primarily use

> it to hear environmental sounds and low frequencies even though it is set

> at

> maximum volume and amplification. As you know, when you can't see, you

> need

> all the sound input you can get even if it's distorted -- or at least that

> is my view.(no pun intended) has also pointed out the difficulties

> involved with hearing too much noise -- which can also cause

> disorientation

> and veering.

>

> In regards to programming the 3G to emphasize high frequencies and the

> Freedom for low frequencies (or vice-versa), one of the concerns I would

> have is with sound localization -- especially for someone who is visually

> impaired or totally blind. I recently learned that traffic consists of

> middle and low frequency sounds, so if you're not picking up the middle

> frequencies with one of your processors, I suspect this would cause

> problems

> with veering and maintaining one's orientation particularly when crossing

> streets.

>

> P.S. Thanks for your message regarding my recital! I'm still reading

> through

> list e-mail, but when I return later this evening, I'll be sure to let

> everyone know how it went!

>

>

> Implanted: 12/22/04 Activated: 1/18/05

> Deafblind/Postlingual

> BTE hearing aid user 20 years

> Severe-profound hearing loss 10 years

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Larry,

Between redoing your T's and C's at each mapping, and you giving your

observations and requests for certain sound to your audi, you shouldn't have to

sacrifice highs or lows. I prefer highs, myself, so we " emphasize " them. We

do that by raising the levels of the high and evening out the lows. We

experiment with what to do with the lows. We can take some out by turning off

electrodes off or leveling them out. We try different things each time. And

different things work depending on my T's and C's, and they DO change. By the

way,

this should hold true for both the 3G and the Freedom, of which I have both.

Good luck.

) Jackie

Implanted - right ear - Oct.2002 - Nucleus 24/3G

Reimplanted - right ear - Jan.2005 - Nucleus 24C/3G

Implanted - left ear - Sept.2005 - Nucleus-Freedom

[Guest guest]

hi Jackie,

Thanks for your kind email of support. I have all my electrodes

activated at the present time. I heard my mom's water faucet dripping as

usual with my 3G. I thought I heard it with my Freedom too. I turned my 3G

off and sure enough. I heard it with my Freedom. Sounds seem to be

correcting themselves with the Freedom. Larry

Re: Larry

> Hi, Larry,

> Between redoing your T's and C's at each mapping, and you giving your

> observations and requests for certain sound to your audi, you shouldn't

> have to

> sacrifice highs or lows. I prefer highs, myself, so we " emphasize " them.

> We

> do that by raising the levels of the high and evening out the lows. We

> experiment with what to do with the lows. We can take some out by turning

> off

> electrodes off or leveling them out. We try different things each time.

> And

> different things work depending on my T's and C's, and they DO change. By

> the way,

> this should hold true for both the 3G and the Freedom, of which I have

> both.

> Good luck.

> ) Jackie

> Implanted - right ear - Oct.2002 - Nucleus 24/3G

> Reimplanted - right ear - Jan.2005 - Nucleus 24C/3G

> Implanted - left ear - Sept.2005 - Nucleus-Freedom

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi ,

I got both of my CI's at UAMS, and my surgeon was Dr. Danner. However,

my audiologist in Little Rock was Steve Upson from Children's Hospital, and

My audiologist is now Dr. Mark Everingham at Methodist Hospital in Memphis

Tenn. I now live in Monette Arkansas, 45 minutes from Memphis. Larry

Larry

> Hi Larry,

> Did you get both of your implants at the same center? Same Dr and

> all. I think you moved somewhere along the line to be closer to Sharon,

> so not sure on the details.

> Which implant center or centers did you use? And are you still using

> the same one now.

> Thanks,

>

>

> The Original

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Larry,

You are worse than Hitler. " ...not

implanting a child is child abuse is that denying that child hearing is a

ticket to illiteracy. " Can you back that up with facts? I know many deaf

people with impeccable wrtiing skills. And who also have credible speech.

You also said " I feel it is just a matter of time before all deaf

children are required to get implants before they are 18 months old. This

would eliminate the deaf culture and make sign language obsolete. "

Your thinking is akin to genocide. You believe the cochlear implant

will eliminate the deaf population. Oh lord have mercy on us all. That is

shameful.

I hope you do not live to regret your words.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

A pessimist thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and hates them for it.

-- Bernard Shaw

& Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

[Guest guest]

I have never proposed eliminating anyone. I am only saying that if asl,

pse, and other forms of deaf communication were done away with, the deaf

culture as we know it would be a thing of the past. Deaf people would still

be here but the scourge of deafness would be gone forever.

May I issue you a challenge? Why not be a man and talk with me by

telephone with your Ci. You will find, I have excellent phone skills. I am

not tooting my horn, merely stating facts. Larry

Re: Larry

> Larry,

> You are worse than Hitler. " ...not

> implanting a child is child abuse is that denying that child hearing is a

> ticket to illiteracy. " Can you back that up with facts? I know many deaf

> people with impeccable wrtiing skills. And who also have credible speech.

>

> You also said " I feel it is just a matter of time before all deaf

> children are required to get implants before they are 18 months old. This

> would eliminate the deaf culture and make sign language obsolete. "

>

> Your thinking is akin to genocide. You believe the cochlear implant

> will eliminate the deaf population. Oh lord have mercy on us all. That

> is

> shameful.

>

> I hope you do not live to regret your words.

>

> *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> A pessimist thinks everybody is as nasty as himself, and hates them for

> it.

> -- Bernard Shaw

> & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)

> Newport, Oregon

> N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> rclark0276@...

> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Larry,

Whatever you call it, its still unimaginable that you would even think

of it. I suspect you ahve had bad experiences with those in the deaf

culture. The cochlear implant is not a fix all solution. What do you

propose to do with those that cannot benefit from a CI, shove them into a

closet? And you said " ...but the scourge of deafness would be gone

forever. " And I say, you are so deluded if you think its that simple. If

you think its ok to force parents to have their deaf kids implanted, then

you would not mind being forced to be committed to some place out of sight

simply because youc are blind. After all, you cannot read print. Can you

read braille?

Yeah I hear you tooting your own horn, and oh is it ever out of tune.

*---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

I reserve the right to be wrong. Which will never happen.

& Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)

Newport, Oregon

N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

rclark0276@...

http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

[Guest guest]

Yes, . I am a proficient Braille reader. I also know and

appreciate the value of a spell checker. Your spelling errors are for

everyone to see.

You have never met me and therefore don't know how well I do with my

cochlear implants. You haven't said anything about the challenge I issued.

Yes, I have had many unfortunate experiences with the deaf community.

When they found out I wasn't interested in learning sign language, I was

ostracized by them. In retrospect, I understand. The deaf culture want to

be isolated like an island within itself.

There are probably those who cannot benefit from the cochlear implant.

However, with new advances in technology and medical advances, we will make

progress. Remember, not too many years ago when their was nothing that

could be done for common, old-fashioned, nerve deafness.

regards,

Larry

Re: Larry

> Larry,

> Whatever you call it, its still unimaginable that you would even think

> of it. I suspect you ahve had bad experiences with those in the deaf

> culture. The cochlear implant is not a fix all solution. What do you

> propose to do with those that cannot benefit from a CI, shove them into a

> closet? And you said " ...but the scourge of deafness would be gone

> forever. " And I say, you are so deluded if you think its that simple. If

> you think its ok to force parents to have their deaf kids implanted, then

> you would not mind being forced to be committed to some place out of sight

> simply because youc are blind. After all, you cannot read print. Can you

> read braille?

>

> Yeah I hear you tooting your own horn, and oh is it ever out of tune.

>

> *---* *---* *---* *---* *---*

> I reserve the right to be wrong. Which will never happen.

> & Dreamer Doll (Guide Dawggie)

> Newport, Oregon

> N24C 3G 8/2000 Hookup

> rclark0276@...

> http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm just curious, why are you on this board in the first place? This is a

board for dismantling the rampant propaganda disseminated by Big Pharma and to

try and spread the word about what we all have known for years -- that psych

meds, psych treatment, ECT, Big Pharma are all a bunch of lies used to make

money. Most of us have been irreparably harmed by this so-called treatment,

and yet you are on here day after day spouting about how much all these drugs

have helped you. I doubt that seriously, as I would bet you have underlying

medical conditions caused by the very treatment you are hailing as

miraculous. So why are you here? Nobody is going to tell you that the drugs

you take

are great, or that your shrink is a hero, or that being locked up in a

looney bin is of help to anyone. Do you even have a clue as to what our

mission

is and how many of us here are now responsible for suicide and homicide

warnings on the drugs you gobble? How many of us have testified before the FDA

or

lobbied congress, or written to the president, or any number of other

acitivites we've been engaged in for nearly a decade to expose the horrid truth

about these Nazi drugs that are passed off as cures? WHY ARE YOU HERE???????

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

I'm just curious, why are you on this board in the first place? This is a

board for dismantling the rampant propaganda disseminated by Big Pharma and to

try and spread the word about what we all have known for years -- that psych

meds, psych treatment, ECT, Big Pharma are all a bunch of lies used to make

money. Most of us have been irreparably harmed by this so-called treatment,

and yet you are on here day after day spouting about how much all these drugs

have helped you. I doubt that seriously, as I would bet you have underlying

medical conditions caused by the very treatment you are hailing as

miraculous. So why are you here? Nobody is going to tell you that the drugs

you take

are great, or that your shrink is a hero, or that being locked up in a

looney bin is of help to anyone. Do you even have a clue as to what our

mission

is and how many of us here are now responsible for suicide and homicide

warnings on the drugs you gobble? How many of us have testified before the FDA

or

lobbied congress, or written to the president, or any number of other

acitivites we've been engaged in for nearly a decade to expose the horrid truth

about these Nazi drugs that are passed off as cures? WHY ARE YOU HERE???????

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

I'm just curious, why are you on this board in the first place? This is a

board for dismantling the rampant propaganda disseminated by Big Pharma and to

try and spread the word about what we all have known for years -- that psych

meds, psych treatment, ECT, Big Pharma are all a bunch of lies used to make

money. Most of us have been irreparably harmed by this so-called treatment,

and yet you are on here day after day spouting about how much all these drugs

have helped you. I doubt that seriously, as I would bet you have underlying

medical conditions caused by the very treatment you are hailing as

miraculous. So why are you here? Nobody is going to tell you that the drugs

you take

are great, or that your shrink is a hero, or that being locked up in a

looney bin is of help to anyone. Do you even have a clue as to what our

mission

is and how many of us here are now responsible for suicide and homicide

warnings on the drugs you gobble? How many of us have testified before the FDA

or

lobbied congress, or written to the president, or any number of other

acitivites we've been engaged in for nearly a decade to expose the horrid truth

about these Nazi drugs that are passed off as cures? WHY ARE YOU HERE???????

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[Guest guest]

I'm just curious, why are you on this board in the first place? This is a

board for dismantling the rampant propaganda disseminated by Big Pharma and to

try and spread the word about what we all have known for years -- that psych

meds, psych treatment, ECT, Big Pharma are all a bunch of lies used to make

money. Most of us have been irreparably harmed by this so-called treatment,

and yet you are on here day after day spouting about how much all these drugs

have helped you. I doubt that seriously, as I would bet you have underlying

medical conditions caused by the very treatment you are hailing as

miraculous. So why are you here? Nobody is going to tell you that the drugs

you take

are great, or that your shrink is a hero, or that being locked up in a

looney bin is of help to anyone. Do you even have a clue as to what our

mission

is and how many of us here are now responsible for suicide and homicide

warnings on the drugs you gobble? How many of us have testified before the FDA

or

lobbied congress, or written to the president, or any number of other

acitivites we've been engaged in for nearly a decade to expose the horrid truth

about these Nazi drugs that are passed off as cures? WHY ARE YOU HERE???????

************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.