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I'm just curious, why are you on this board in the first place? This is a

board for dismantling the rampant propaganda disseminated by Big Pharma and to

try and spread the word about what we all have known for years -- that psych

meds, psych treatment, ECT, Big Pharma are all a bunch of lies used to make

money. Most of us have been irreparably harmed by this so-called treatment,

and yet you are on here day after day spouting about how much all these drugs

have helped you. I doubt that seriously, as I would bet you have underlying

medical conditions caused by the very treatment you are hailing as

miraculous. So why are you here? Nobody is going to tell you that the drugs you

take

are great, or that your shrink is a hero, or that being locked up in a

looney bin is of help to anyone. Do you even have a clue as to what our mission

is and how many of us here are now responsible for suicide and homicide

warnings on the drugs you gobble? How many of us have testified before the FDA

or

lobbied congress, or written to the president, or any number of other

acitivites we've been engaged in for nearly a decade to expose the horrid truth

about these Nazi drugs that are passed off as cures? WHY ARE YOU HERE???????

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Re: Larry

I'm just curious, why are you on this board in the first place? This is a

board for dismantling the rampant propaganda disseminated by Big Pharma and to

try and spread the word about what we all have known for years -- that psych

meds, psych treatment, ECT, Big Pharma are all a bunch of lies used to make

money. Most of us have been irreparably harmed by this so-called treatment,

and yet you are on here day after day spouting about how much all these drugs

have helped you. I doubt that seriously, as I would bet you have underlying

medical conditions caused by the very treatment you are hailing as

miraculous. So why are you here? Nobody is going to tell you that the drugs you

take

are great, or that your shrink is a hero, or that being locked up in a

looney bin is of help to anyone. Do you even have a clue as to what our mission

is and how many of us here are now responsible for suicide and homicide

warnings on the drugs you gobble? How many of us have testified before the FDA

or

lobbied congress, or written to the president, or any number of other

acitivites we've been engaged in for nearly a decade to expose the horrid truth

about these Nazi drugs that are passed off as cures? WHY ARE YOU HERE???????

************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol.

com.

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Re: Larry

I'm just curious, why are you on this board in the first place? This is a

board for dismantling the rampant propaganda disseminated by Big Pharma and to

try and spread the word about what we all have known for years -- that psych

meds, psych treatment, ECT, Big Pharma are all a bunch of lies used to make

money. Most of us have been irreparably harmed by this so-called treatment,

and yet you are on here day after day spouting about how much all these drugs

have helped you. I doubt that seriously, as I would bet you have underlying

medical conditions caused by the very treatment you are hailing as

miraculous. So why are you here? Nobody is going to tell you that the drugs you

take

are great, or that your shrink is a hero, or that being locked up in a

looney bin is of help to anyone. Do you even have a clue as to what our mission

is and how many of us here are now responsible for suicide and homicide

warnings on the drugs you gobble? How many of us have testified before the FDA

or

lobbied congress, or written to the president, or any number of other

acitivites we've been engaged in for nearly a decade to expose the horrid truth

about these Nazi drugs that are passed off as cures? WHY ARE YOU HERE???????

************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol.

com.

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Re: Larry

I'm just curious, why are you on this board in the first place? This is a

board for dismantling the rampant propaganda disseminated by Big Pharma and to

try and spread the word about what we all have known for years -- that psych

meds, psych treatment, ECT, Big Pharma are all a bunch of lies used to make

money. Most of us have been irreparably harmed by this so-called treatment,

and yet you are on here day after day spouting about how much all these drugs

have helped you. I doubt that seriously, as I would bet you have underlying

medical conditions caused by the very treatment you are hailing as

miraculous. So why are you here? Nobody is going to tell you that the drugs you

take

are great, or that your shrink is a hero, or that being locked up in a

looney bin is of help to anyone. Do you even have a clue as to what our mission

is and how many of us here are now responsible for suicide and homicide

warnings on the drugs you gobble? How many of us have testified before the FDA

or

lobbied congress, or written to the president, or any number of other

acitivites we've been engaged in for nearly a decade to expose the horrid truth

about these Nazi drugs that are passed off as cures? WHY ARE YOU HERE???????

************ ********* ********* ******** See what's free at http://www.aol.

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Maybe is a lobbyist in training.

Best thing for everyone involved really.

I thought for a while we could talk to this person but he ended up

insulting people here who have just described the trauma they or

their loved ones have been through. It upsets me that anyone can be

so callous.

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Best thing for everyone involved really.

I thought for a while we could talk to this person but he ended up

insulting people here who have just described the trauma they or

their loved ones have been through. It upsets me that anyone can be

so callous.

This is the sort of exchange I got into with 3 other people on my SAD

forum just before I came here. Their meds were helping them and they

didn't want to listen to anything I said. (They started the argument

when I objected to them implying that a person who had suddenly felt

suicidal within days of starting an SSRI, should go to the doc and

try a different one.) Perhaps the most disturbing thing for me is how

people in that position will dismiss or ignore the stories of

suffering from other people on the drugs. It's as if those people

don't count. It doesn't matter how dangerous a med is as long as you

can roll the dice and come out lucky yourself.

I got a glimpse into this thinking when I started my own med. It

really was a last resort after a year and a half of deep depression,

but because it was just that, I was frightened it wouldn't work and I

wouldn't know what to do next. I'd read a few stories on various

forums from people saying their meds had caused them problems,

especially upon withdrawal. I, too, turned a blind eye and trusted

that my roll of the dice would be lucky. Desperation caused me to

think that way.

However, I am also quite sure that if I had been on this forum and

read all the messages that were written to Larry, particularly the

ones explaining the alternatives to medication, you bet I would never

have taken the Celexa. I don't think he intended to listen, don't

know what he was doing here -- but thanks everyone for sharing your

stories. It's good to get to know some of you a little better. I'm

sorry so many of you have been through such hell but at least we know

the truth.

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Best thing for everyone involved really.

I thought for a while we could talk to this person but he ended up

insulting people here who have just described the trauma they or

their loved ones have been through. It upsets me that anyone can be

so callous.

This is the sort of exchange I got into with 3 other people on my SAD

forum just before I came here. Their meds were helping them and they

didn't want to listen to anything I said. (They started the argument

when I objected to them implying that a person who had suddenly felt

suicidal within days of starting an SSRI, should go to the doc and

try a different one.) Perhaps the most disturbing thing for me is how

people in that position will dismiss or ignore the stories of

suffering from other people on the drugs. It's as if those people

don't count. It doesn't matter how dangerous a med is as long as you

can roll the dice and come out lucky yourself.

I got a glimpse into this thinking when I started my own med. It

really was a last resort after a year and a half of deep depression,

but because it was just that, I was frightened it wouldn't work and I

wouldn't know what to do next. I'd read a few stories on various

forums from people saying their meds had caused them problems,

especially upon withdrawal. I, too, turned a blind eye and trusted

that my roll of the dice would be lucky. Desperation caused me to

think that way.

However, I am also quite sure that if I had been on this forum and

read all the messages that were written to Larry, particularly the

ones explaining the alternatives to medication, you bet I would never

have taken the Celexa. I don't think he intended to listen, don't

know what he was doing here -- but thanks everyone for sharing your

stories. It's good to get to know some of you a little better. I'm

sorry so many of you have been through such hell but at least we know

the truth.

.

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Best thing for everyone involved really.

I thought for a while we could talk to this person but he ended up

insulting people here who have just described the trauma they or

their loved ones have been through. It upsets me that anyone can be

so callous.

This is the sort of exchange I got into with 3 other people on my SAD

forum just before I came here. Their meds were helping them and they

didn't want to listen to anything I said. (They started the argument

when I objected to them implying that a person who had suddenly felt

suicidal within days of starting an SSRI, should go to the doc and

try a different one.) Perhaps the most disturbing thing for me is how

people in that position will dismiss or ignore the stories of

suffering from other people on the drugs. It's as if those people

don't count. It doesn't matter how dangerous a med is as long as you

can roll the dice and come out lucky yourself.

I got a glimpse into this thinking when I started my own med. It

really was a last resort after a year and a half of deep depression,

but because it was just that, I was frightened it wouldn't work and I

wouldn't know what to do next. I'd read a few stories on various

forums from people saying their meds had caused them problems,

especially upon withdrawal. I, too, turned a blind eye and trusted

that my roll of the dice would be lucky. Desperation caused me to

think that way.

However, I am also quite sure that if I had been on this forum and

read all the messages that were written to Larry, particularly the

ones explaining the alternatives to medication, you bet I would never

have taken the Celexa. I don't think he intended to listen, don't

know what he was doing here -- but thanks everyone for sharing your

stories. It's good to get to know some of you a little better. I'm

sorry so many of you have been through such hell but at least we know

the truth.

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Best thing for everyone involved really.

I thought for a while we could talk to this person but he ended up

insulting people here who have just described the trauma they or

their loved ones have been through. It upsets me that anyone can be

so callous.

This is the sort of exchange I got into with 3 other people on my SAD

forum just before I came here. Their meds were helping them and they

didn't want to listen to anything I said. (They started the argument

when I objected to them implying that a person who had suddenly felt

suicidal within days of starting an SSRI, should go to the doc and

try a different one.) Perhaps the most disturbing thing for me is how

people in that position will dismiss or ignore the stories of

suffering from other people on the drugs. It's as if those people

don't count. It doesn't matter how dangerous a med is as long as you

can roll the dice and come out lucky yourself.

I got a glimpse into this thinking when I started my own med. It

really was a last resort after a year and a half of deep depression,

but because it was just that, I was frightened it wouldn't work and I

wouldn't know what to do next. I'd read a few stories on various

forums from people saying their meds had caused them problems,

especially upon withdrawal. I, too, turned a blind eye and trusted

that my roll of the dice would be lucky. Desperation caused me to

think that way.

However, I am also quite sure that if I had been on this forum and

read all the messages that were written to Larry, particularly the

ones explaining the alternatives to medication, you bet I would never

have taken the Celexa. I don't think he intended to listen, don't

know what he was doing here -- but thanks everyone for sharing your

stories. It's good to get to know some of you a little better. I'm

sorry so many of you have been through such hell but at least we know

the truth.

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If you look at the site he is trying to salvage drug pushing. He's asking

people to write to your reps ad senators.

SUE

Personality disorder? Schizophrenia? Another vote for mania? LOL, shame

pain-in-the-ass disorder isn't in the DSM, he and a large part of the

population would be begging for a new med to treat them.

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Or that he is a shrink? That wasn't my first run in with him. I sent the

site to the group but here it is again.

_Ohio Psychiatric Association_

(http://www.ohiopsych.org/opa_member_directory2_process.asp?Value=S)

Won't surprise me if he

has shares in, or connections to Pfizer.

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I am glad Larry is gone. He was getting me pissed. I know what celexa

did to me for the past 3 years, and it is nothing good. All of the people in

the celexa forum are all snowed under like Larry. They said things, like, " it

helps, but I cannot sleep at night " or " I can go out side now, but have

horrible night mares, and I am breaking my teeth at night while sleeping " .

THESE DRUGS WILL KILL YOUR MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH. I AM surviving proof

of this. I cannot say living proof of this, because what I have been doing the

last three years can not be described as living, only surviving. I hope I

make it out on the other end. And any drug pushers/priasers, come take a walk

in my shoes, you will not like how it feels.

-Tony Sandler

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> You win I'm leaving!!!! SEE U LATER/NOT

Best thing for everyone involved really.

I thought for a while we could talk to this person but he ended up

insulting people here who have just described the trauma they or

their loved ones have been through. It upsets me that anyone can be

so callous.

This is the sort of exchange I got into with 3 other people on my SAD

forum just before I came here. Their meds were helping them and they

didn't want to listen to anything I said. (They started the argument

when I objected to them implying that a person who had suddenly felt

suicidal within days of starting an SSRI, should go to the doc and

try a different one.) Perhaps the most disturbing thing for me is how

people in that position will dismiss or ignore the stories of

suffering from other people on the drugs. It's as if those people

don't count. It doesn't matter how dangerous a med is as long as you

can roll the dice and come out lucky yourself.

I got a glimpse into this thinking when I started my own med. It

really was a last resort after a year and a half of deep depression,

but because it was just that, I was frightened it wouldn't work and I

wouldn't know what to do next. I'd read a few stories on various

forums from people saying their meds had caused them problems,

especially upon withdrawal. I, too, turned a blind eye and trusted

that my roll of the dice would be lucky. Desperation caused me to

think that way.

However, I am also quite sure that if I had been on this forum and

read all the messages that were written to Larry, particularly the

ones explaining the alternatives to medication, you bet I would never

have taken the Celexa. I don't think he intended to listen, don't

know what he was doing here -- but thanks everyone for sharing your

stories. It's good to get to know some of you a little better. I'm

sorry so many of you have been through such hell but at least we know

the truth.

.

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> ,

> I am glad Larry is gone. He was getting me pissed.

Would anyone like to diagnose our departed friend's " mental illness? "

Let's see . . . he comes on forums pretending to be a patient who is on

drugs and is happy with that, even though in reality he is a doctor

himself . . . interesting things he chooses to do with his time.

Personality disorder? Schizophrenia? Another vote for mania? LOL, shame

pain-in-the-ass disorder isn't in the DSM, he and a large part of the

population would be begging for a new med to treat them.

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To me he reasoned and reacted like a bored, immature, stoned teenager.

Someone who was deliberately joining groups to stir, and to get

reactions for a giggle.

Totally overly animated and just a little bit too over the top....juat

a little bit too !!!!!!!! What a weird person.Won't surprise me if he

has shares in, or connections to Pfizer.

> >

> > ,

> > I am glad Larry is gone. He was getting me pissed.

>

>

> Would anyone like to diagnose our departed friend's " mental illness? "

> Let's see . . . he comes on forums pretending to be a patient who is on

> drugs and is happy with that, even though in reality he is a doctor

> himself . . . interesting things he chooses to do with his time.

>

> Personality disorder? Schizophrenia? Another vote for mania? LOL, shame

> pain-in-the-ass disorder isn't in the DSM, he and a large part of the

> population would be begging for a new med to treat them.

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I'm giving myself an opportunity of a lifetime, something I've always wanted to

do to shrinks but never was given a chance, slap a label on one of them. I'm

doing to them what they so often did to me. I " excuse " myself with thoughts of

I'm having a little psychiatric fun, poking fun at the psychs, plus a little

psychiatric patient revenge. I figure I owe it to myself, after surviving 36

years in the System, why not? I go with Borderline Personality Disorder.

He seemed to delight in pushing our buttons, causing us to become very upset and

angry. He went out of his way to offend all of us. He avoided answering direct

questions and the way he signed off, Be Good, it's as if he was chastising bad

little children.

I am very glad he's decided to leave the group.

The fact he is a shrink scares the heck out of me.

Melinda and Jayme her Silver Winged Companion

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>

> ,

> I am glad Larry is gone. He was getting me pissed.

Would anyone like to diagnose our departed friend's " mental illness? "

Let's see . . . he comes on forums pretending to be a patient who is on

drugs and is happy with that, even though in reality he is a doctor

himself . . . interesting things he chooses to do with his time.

Personality disorder? Schizophrenia? Another vote for mania? LOL, shame

pain-in-the-ass disorder isn't in the DSM, he and a large part of the

population would be begging for a new med to treat them.

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I'm giving myself an opportunity of a lifetime, something I've always wanted to

do to shrinks but never was given a chance, slap a label on one of them. I'm

doing to them what they so often did to me. I " excuse " myself with thoughts of

I'm having a little psychiatric fun, poking fun at the psychs, plus a little

psychiatric patient revenge. I figure I owe it to myself, after surviving 36

years in the System, why not? I go with Borderline Personality Disorder.

He seemed to delight in pushing our buttons, causing us to become very upset and

angry. He went out of his way to offend all of us. He avoided answering direct

questions and the way he signed off, Be Good, it's as if he was chastising bad

little children.

I am very glad he's decided to leave the group.

The fact he is a shrink scares the heck out of me.

Melinda and Jayme her Silver Winged Companion

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>

> ,

> I am glad Larry is gone. He was getting me pissed.

Would anyone like to diagnose our departed friend's " mental illness? "

Let's see . . . he comes on forums pretending to be a patient who is on

drugs and is happy with that, even though in reality he is a doctor

himself . . . interesting things he chooses to do with his time.

Personality disorder? Schizophrenia? Another vote for mania? LOL, shame

pain-in-the-ass disorder isn't in the DSM, he and a large part of the

population would be begging for a new med to treat them.

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I'm giving myself an opportunity of a lifetime, something I've always wanted to

do to shrinks but never was given a chance, slap a label on one of them. I'm

doing to them what they so often did to me. I " excuse " myself with thoughts of

I'm having a little psychiatric fun, poking fun at the psychs, plus a little

psychiatric patient revenge. I figure I owe it to myself, after surviving 36

years in the System, why not? I go with Borderline Personality Disorder.

He seemed to delight in pushing our buttons, causing us to become very upset and

angry. He went out of his way to offend all of us. He avoided answering direct

questions and the way he signed off, Be Good, it's as if he was chastising bad

little children.

I am very glad he's decided to leave the group.

The fact he is a shrink scares the heck out of me.

Melinda and Jayme her Silver Winged Companion

Re: Larry

>

> ,

> I am glad Larry is gone. He was getting me pissed.

Would anyone like to diagnose our departed friend's " mental illness? "

Let's see . . . he comes on forums pretending to be a patient who is on

drugs and is happy with that, even though in reality he is a doctor

himself . . . interesting things he chooses to do with his time.

Personality disorder? Schizophrenia? Another vote for mania? LOL, shame

pain-in-the-ass disorder isn't in the DSM, he and a large part of the

population would be begging for a new med to treat them.

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I'm giving myself an opportunity of a lifetime, something I've always wanted to

do to shrinks but never was given a chance, slap a label on one of them. I'm

doing to them what they so often did to me. I " excuse " myself with thoughts of

I'm having a little psychiatric fun, poking fun at the psychs, plus a little

psychiatric patient revenge. I figure I owe it to myself, after surviving 36

years in the System, why not? I go with Borderline Personality Disorder.

He seemed to delight in pushing our buttons, causing us to become very upset and

angry. He went out of his way to offend all of us. He avoided answering direct

questions and the way he signed off, Be Good, it's as if he was chastising bad

little children.

I am very glad he's decided to leave the group.

The fact he is a shrink scares the heck out of me.

Melinda and Jayme her Silver Winged Companion

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>

> ,

> I am glad Larry is gone. He was getting me pissed.

Would anyone like to diagnose our departed friend's " mental illness? "

Let's see . . . he comes on forums pretending to be a patient who is on

drugs and is happy with that, even though in reality he is a doctor

himself . . . interesting things he chooses to do with his time.

Personality disorder? Schizophrenia? Another vote for mania? LOL, shame

pain-in-the-ass disorder isn't in the DSM, he and a large part of the

population would be begging for a new med to treat them.

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Hello My Friend!

Thank you....I am feeling better with each passing day....my immune system is

very suppressed so I have to be very careful and hope no " evil " germs attempt to

invade....I received a referral date from my RD for an Immunologist at Duke

Univ. Horsenpital......

my understanding, this " Dude " Doc is going to attempt to " fix " my immune system

by possibly injecting Immunoglobulin Factors (antibodies)......Man, it has gotta

be a fine line or the IgA and IgF injected will attack me!!!  Needless to say, I

am a bit confused......oh well, i'll probably just do what I normally do and

listen to the voices in my head (LOL).

How are you doing these days?

Many Blessings!

Larry

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To: Stillsdisease

Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:06 PM

Nicely stated Larry! How are you feeling honey?

Take care and be well.

Ellen

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Hello My Friend!

Thank you....I am feeling better with each passing day....my immune system is

very suppressed so I have to be very careful and hope no " evil " germs attempt to

invade....I received a referral date from my RD for an Immunologist at Duke

Univ. Horsenpital......

my understanding, this " Dude " Doc is going to attempt to " fix " my immune system

by possibly injecting Immunoglobulin Factors (antibodies)......Man, it has gotta

be a fine line or the IgA and IgF injected will attack me!!!  Needless to say, I

am a bit confused......oh well, i'll probably just do what I normally do and

listen to the voices in my head (LOL).

How are you doing these days?

Many Blessings!

Larry

Subject: Re: Larry

To: Stillsdisease

Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 2:06 PM

Nicely stated Larry! How are you feeling honey?

Take care and be well.

Ellen

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Larry,

Glad to see you posting more like your old self. I had read about

Immunoglobulin therapy. Some positive reports. Let us know how it

works for you. Keeping toes and fingers crossed and tossing a few

prayers your way. Of course, you know how it is with us stilligans,

very difficult to cross our fingers and toes. The prayers are easier.

Fuzzy

>

> Hello My Friend!

> Thank you....I am feeling better with each passing day....my immune

system is very suppressed so I have to be very careful and hope

no " evil " germs attempt to invade....I received a referral date from

my RD for an Immunologist at Duke Univ. Horsenpital......

> my understanding, this " Dude " Doc is going to attempt to " fix " my

immune system by possibly injecting Immunoglobulin Factors

(antibodies)......Man, it has gotta be a fine line or the IgA and IgF

injected will attack me!!!  Needless to say, I am a bit

confused......oh well, i'll probably just do what I normally do and

listen to the voices in my head (LOL).

> How are you doing these days?

> Many Blessings!

> Larry

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Larry,

Glad to see you posting more like your old self. I had read about

Immunoglobulin therapy. Some positive reports. Let us know how it

works for you. Keeping toes and fingers crossed and tossing a few

prayers your way. Of course, you know how it is with us stilligans,

very difficult to cross our fingers and toes. The prayers are easier.

Fuzzy

>

> Hello My Friend!

> Thank you....I am feeling better with each passing day....my immune

system is very suppressed so I have to be very careful and hope

no " evil " germs attempt to invade....I received a referral date from

my RD for an Immunologist at Duke Univ. Horsenpital......

> my understanding, this " Dude " Doc is going to attempt to " fix " my

immune system by possibly injecting Immunoglobulin Factors

(antibodies)......Man, it has gotta be a fine line or the IgA and IgF

injected will attack me!!!  Needless to say, I am a bit

confused......oh well, i'll probably just do what I normally do and

listen to the voices in my head (LOL).

> How are you doing these days?

> Many Blessings!

> Larry

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Larry,

Glad to see you posting more like your old self. I had read about

Immunoglobulin therapy. Some positive reports. Let us know how it

works for you. Keeping toes and fingers crossed and tossing a few

prayers your way. Of course, you know how it is with us stilligans,

very difficult to cross our fingers and toes. The prayers are easier.

Fuzzy

>

> Hello My Friend!

> Thank you....I am feeling better with each passing day....my immune

system is very suppressed so I have to be very careful and hope

no " evil " germs attempt to invade....I received a referral date from

my RD for an Immunologist at Duke Univ. Horsenpital......

> my understanding, this " Dude " Doc is going to attempt to " fix " my

immune system by possibly injecting Immunoglobulin Factors

(antibodies)......Man, it has gotta be a fine line or the IgA and IgF

injected will attack me!!!  Needless to say, I am a bit

confused......oh well, i'll probably just do what I normally do and

listen to the voices in my head (LOL).

> How are you doing these days?

> Many Blessings!

> Larry

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