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Did you try using a salt water saline nose spray? My DH uses it in the winter

because it gets very dry in our house, and it seems to work well. A name brand

for that is Ocean, but generics work just as well. At bed, you can use just

plain old Vaseline, or Aquaphor. At least when your sleeping, it won't bug you

as much.

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[ ] MTX Drying Me Out

Hi Everyone...

Since I've gone to the injections I have been having an issue with the MTX

drying out my sinuses. It's uncomfortable and annoying. I've tried keeping

myself completely hydrated and have tried using a vaporizor at night. I've alo

tried a tiny bit of antibiotic onement in the nostrils and that just feels

greasy and weird. Any suggestions?

Stan,

Seattled, Cloudy.

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I'll give it a go, and stop buy the drug store today. For some reason I never

thought to look at nasal sprays, I just always associate them with head colds or

allergies. Sometimes I think I'm just stupid.

Stan

Seattle, Cloudy.

Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 12:08:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

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Did you try using a salt water saline nose spray?  My DH uses it in the winter

because it gets very dry in our house, and it seems to work well.  A name brand

for that is Ocean, but generics work just as well.  At bed, you can use just

plain old Vaseline, or Aquaphor.  At least when your sleeping, it won't bug you

as much.

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Ayr makes a gel form of saline solution you can place in your nostrils as well

as some great saline spray.

Did you have this issue with the pill form of MTX?

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[ ] MTX Drying Me Out

Hi Everyone...

Since I've gone to the injections I have been having an issue with the MTX

drying out my sinuses. It's uncomfortable and annoying. I've tried keeping

myself completely hydrated and have tried using a vaporizor at night. I've alo

tried a tiny bit of antibiotic onement in the nostrils and that just feels

greasy and weird. Any suggestions?

Stan,

Seattled, Cloudy.

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You may not be 'stupid', just uninformed. LOL In my research, I've found

that Sjogrens Syndrome goes hand-in-hand with RA, apparently cause (?)

Sjogrens. It dries out the cavities from the base of the neck to the top of

your head. I've been using saline nasal spray for my eyes, too. When I got

my eye exam, the optometrist took pictures to see how much damage the

Sjogrens caused so far, and it was considerable. Life goes on...

Dennis in eastexas

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:31 PM, <stanpfister@...> wrote:

>

> I'll give it a go, and stop buy the drug store today. For some reason I

> never thought to look at nasal sprays, I just always associate them with

> head colds or allergies. Sometimes I think I'm just stupid.

>

> Stan

>

> Seattle, Cloudy.

>

> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 12:08:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

> Subject: Re: [ ] MTX Drying Me Out

>

>

> Did you try using a salt water saline nose spray? My DH uses it in the

> winter because it gets very dry in our house, and it seems to work well. A

> name brand for that is Ocean, but generics work just as well. At bed, you

> can use just plain old Vaseline, or Aquaphor. At least when your sleeping,

> it won't bug you as much.

> Lori

>

http://home.comcast.net/~queenstitcher/<http://home.comcast.net/%7Equeenstitcher\

/>

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Thanks, I'll look for it.

Stan

Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 12:55:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

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Ayr makes a gel form of saline solution you can place in your nostrils as well

as some great saline spray.

Did you have this issue with the pill form of MTX?

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Wasn't it Reagan who said, " only I know what I don't know. " It's scary but I

understand that!

Stan

Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 9:15:39 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

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You may not be 'stupid', just uninformed. LOL In my research, I've found

that Sjogrens Syndrome goes hand-in-hand with RA, apparently cause (?)

Sjogrens. It dries out the cavities from the base of the neck to the top of

your head. I've been using saline nasal spray for my eyes, too. When I got

my eye exam, the optometrist took pictures to see how much damage the

Sjogrens caused so far, and it was considerable. Life goes on...

Dennis in eastexas

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I don't know if it was him, but it works for me!

Dennis in eastexas

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:51 AM, <stanpfister@...> wrote:

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>

>

>

> Wasn't it Reagan who said, " only I know what I don't know. " It's scary but

> I understand that!

>

> Stan

>

> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 9:15:39 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

> Subject: Re: [ ] MTX Drying Me Out

>

> You may not be 'stupid', just uninformed. LOL In my research, I've found

> that Sjogrens Syndrome goes hand-in-hand with RA, apparently cause (?)

> Sjogrens. It dries out the cavities from the base of the neck to the top of

>

> your head. I've been using saline nasal spray for my eyes, too. When I got

> my eye exam, the optometrist took pictures to see how much damage the

> Sjogrens caused so far, and it was considerable. Life goes on...

>

> Dennis in eastexas

>

> .

>

>

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In a message dated 6/6/2009 4:53:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

skaye81@... writes:

My eye doctor recommended a product called TheraTears for my Sjogrens

related dry eyes. >>

I just saw an eye doctor and she asked why I didn't use eye drops. I said

they hurt. So she recommended eyedrops without any preservatives. I have a

couple of kinds -- one is thicker than the other and I can't see right away

after using it.

dd

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Dennis, are you sure it's safe to use saline nasal spray in your eyes?

Why don't you get some moisturizing drops? I would think that saline

spray would just dry out your eyes more. For my Fuchs' corneal

dystrophy, I use Muro 128 eye drops (which are salt and water) to draw

the moisture out of my cornea.

Sue

On Jun 6, 2009, at 12:15 AM, Dennis W wrote:

> You may not be 'stupid', just uninformed. LOL In my research, I've

> found

> that Sjogrens Syndrome goes hand-in-hand with RA, apparently cause (?)

> Sjogrens. It dries out the cavities from the base of the neck to the

> top of

> your head. I've been using saline nasal spray for my eyes, too. When

> I got

> my eye exam, the optometrist took pictures to see how much damage the

> Sjogrens caused so far, and it was considerable. Life goes on...

>

> Dennis in eastexas

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It was a slight issue when I was one the oral, I would make sure I was fully

hydrated before taking it and stayed that way the day after. I've been doing the

same since going to the injections even with the dose being the same. So I've

heard the injections are more effective and this may indicate that is true. I

wanted to start on the injections to get use to the idea so if I every get on a

biologic it wouldn't be so creepy giving myself a needle. I've printed out your

input and will be looking for it today. Appreciate it!

Stan

Seattle, Cloudy.

Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 12:55:32 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

Subject: Re: [ ] MTX Drying Me Out

Ayr makes a gel form of saline solution you can place in your nostrils as well

as some great saline spray.

Did you have this issue with the pill form of MTX?

*~ Kami ~*

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My eye doctor recommended a product called TheraTears for my Sjogrens related

dry eyes.

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Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 3:52:06 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] MTX Drying Me Out

Dennis, are you sure it's safe to use saline nasal spray in your eyes?

Why don't you get some moisturizing drops? I would think that saline

spray would just dry out your eyes more. For my Fuchs' corneal

dystrophy, I use Muro 128 eye drops (which are salt and water) to draw

the moisture out of my cornea.

Sue

On Jun 6, 2009, at 12:15 AM, Dennis W wrote:

> You may not be 'stupid', just uninformed. LOL In my research, I've

> found

> that Sjogrens Syndrome goes hand-in-hand with RA, apparently cause (?)

> Sjogrens. It dries out the cavities from the base of the neck to the

> top of

> your head. I've been using saline nasal spray for my eyes, too. When

> I got

> my eye exam, the optometrist took pictures to see how much damage the

> Sjogrens caused so far, and it was considerable. Life goes on...

>

> Dennis in eastexas

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Thera tears comes in liquid and gel form and is supposed to be preservative free

once it hits your eye (?).  She told me NOT to use the Visine type stuff as it

would only make it worse.  She also recommended I only use the gel type if I

were going to bed for the night or something like that.

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Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 7:38:28 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] MTX Drying Me Out

In a message dated 6/6/2009 4:53:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

skaye81 (DOT) com writes:

My eye doctor recommended a product called TheraTears for my Sjogrens

related dry eyes. >>

I just saw an eye doctor and she asked why I didn't use eye drops. I said

they hurt. So she recommended eyedrops without any preservatives. I have a

couple of kinds -- one is thicker than the other and I can't see right away

after using it.

dd

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diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com.

(http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Fo\

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I use Genteal gel to moisterize my eyes. Lately, since I've been

having corneal erosions from map-dot dystrophy, it's not quite

adequate, so I got some Genteal ointment to use at night.

Sue

On Jun 6, 2009, at 7:38 PM, dgd301@... wrote:

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> I just saw an eye doctor and she asked why I didn't use eye drops. I

> said

> they hurt. So she recommended eyedrops without any preservatives. I

> have a

> couple of kinds -- one is thicker than the other and I can't see

> right away

> after using it.

>

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i'm REALLY interested to read this, because that was what i thought. however,

my doc still flatly refuses to send me to a rheumatologist, on the grounds that

there is no rf showing! i've had sjogrens since the arthritis developed, i

think, and it is absolute purgatory! it doesn't just dry out THOSE cavities

either, stan! it dries out more intimate parts of the body also.

sama

>

> You may not be 'stupid', just uninformed. LOL In my research, I've found

> that Sjogrens Syndrome goes hand-in-hand with RA, apparently cause (?)

> Sjogrens. It dries out the cavities from the base of the neck to the top of

> your head.

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To begin with, I have both drops here on my desk. When I try to get drops in

my eyes, it ends up all over my face, but not in my eyes. The saline is a

spray and fills my entire eye, not just the part that flutters around with

blinking. I feel that blinking wipes most solution away so it won't do much

good anyhow. Just my opinion, and it works for me so far.

Dennis in eastexas

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:52 PM, marysue <marysue@...> wrote:

>

>

> Dennis, are you sure it's safe to use saline nasal spray in your eyes?

> Why don't you get some moisturizing drops? I would think that saline

> spray would just dry out your eyes more. For my Fuchs' corneal

> dystrophy, I use Muro 128 eye drops (which are salt and water) to draw

> the moisture out of my cornea.

>

> Sue

>

>

> On Jun 6, 2009, at 12:15 AM, Dennis W wrote:

>

> > You may not be 'stupid', just uninformed. LOL In my research, I've

> > found

> > that Sjogrens Syndrome goes hand-in-hand with RA, apparently cause (?)

> > Sjogrens. It dries out the cavities from the base of the neck to the

> > top of

> > your head. I've been using saline nasal spray for my eyes, too. When

> > I got

> > my eye exam, the optometrist took pictures to see how much damage the

> > Sjogrens caused so far, and it was considerable. Life goes on...

> >

> > Dennis in eastexas

>

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Why can't you see a Rheumatologist on your own? Is it a " system " thing?

Stan

Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 6:21:09 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific

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i'm REALLY interested to read this, because that was what i thought.  however,

my doc still flatly refuses to send me to a rheumatologist, on the grounds that

there is no rf showing!  i've had sjogrens since the arthritis developed, i

think, and it is absolute purgatory!  it doesn't just dry out THOSE cavities

either, stan!  it dries out more intimate parts of the body also.

sama

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Dennis, I have a hard time getting drops into my eyes, too. I find

that doing it while looking in a mirror helps make it easier for me.

And I also pull down the bottom lid to make a pocket in which to put

the drops. I still get the drops all over my face sometimes. I've had

to use eye drops for years, but lately I've had to use even more to

try to ease these corneal erosions I keep having.

I really do think that the saline spray is probably drying out your

eyes. Why don't you ask your doctor if it is?

Sue

On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:13 PM, Dennis W wrote:

> To begin with, I have both drops here on my desk. When I try to get

> drops in

> my eyes, it ends up all over my face, but not in my eyes. The saline

> is a

> spray and fills my entire eye, not just the part that flutters

> around with

> blinking. I feel that blinking wipes most solution away so it won't

> do much

> good anyhow. Just my opinion, and it works for me so far.

>

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Doesn't your doctor understand that you can have RA without having a positive RF

factor? It's called sero-negative RA. Tell him to look it up.

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[ ] Re: MTX Drying Me Out

i'm REALLY interested to read this, because that was what i thought. however,

my doc still flatly refuses to send me to a rheumatologist, on the grounds that

there is no rf showing! i've had sjogrens since the arthritis developed, i

think, and it is absolute purgatory! it doesn't just dry out THOSE cavities

either, stan! it dries out more intimate parts of the body also.

sama

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