Re: Trouble

[Guest guest]

Hi,

how exactly is this affecting homebirth and CPS?

I am having my first homebirth ( any day now)and would love to know what I am up

against and what can be done about it. I could not imagine anything worse than

having my child taken away from me by trying to do what's best for him.

Love,

Mara

" Lady Lumbee " <meharv84@...> wrote:

>This has some serious repercussions for us or anyone concerning our rights.

>CPS will be given an even free-er hand and those that choose homebirth and

>especially unassisted homebirth, will be facing CPS.

>

> http://www.truthout.com/0500.17.Sens.Letter.htm

>

>CORZINE JOINED BY 16 COLLEAGUES IN LETTER TO BUSH

>

>WASHINGTON - 08.02.01 | Senator Jon S. Corzine today organized a bipartisan

>letter to President Bush opposing a draft policy developed by the Department

>of Health and Human Services that would allow states to define " an unborn

>child " as a " targeted low-income child " eligible for health coverage under

>the State Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP). His letter was

>co-signed by a bipartisan group of Senators.

>

> " This unnecessarily inserts abortion politics into a policy where the real

>goal should be to reduce both infant and maternal mortality, " the letter

>states. " We share your belief that we should do all we can to expand access

>to prenatal care. Prenatal care is critical to improving health outcomes for

>both mother and newborn child. Yet as a nation, we do far too little to

>provide this type of care. But rather than attempting to improve the health

>of American women and to ensure healthy births, this policy forces a

>contentious abortion battle and an arduous regulatory and legal process that

>may take years to resolve. "

>

>The United States is currently ranked 25th in infant mortality and 21st in

>maternal mortality, the worst record among developed nations. Earlier this

>year, New Jersey became one of two states to receive a waiver, which allows

>the state to expand coverage for pregnant women under the CHIP program,

>whose primary goal is to insure low-income children and provide prenatal and

>maternity care for women. Senator Corzine is an original cosponsor of the

> " Start Healthy, Stay Healthy Act, " which would allow states to provide

>health care coverage for pregnant women and children up to their first

>birthday, and to expand coverage for children until their 20th birthday

>through the CHIP program. The letter drafted by Senator Corzine urges the

>President, " rather than focusing on the fetus, which creates controversy

>where none need exist, we should expand health coverage to pregnant women, "

>through proposals such as the bipartisan Start Healthy, Stay Healthy

>initiative.

>

> " Given our nation's high levels on infant and maternal mortality, we cannot

>let the critical issue of extending health coverage to pregnant women spiral

>into an abortion debate, " the letter concludes. " Coverage of prenatal care

>is an issue behind which all of us can and must unite. "

>

>

>

>August 2, 2001

>

>The President The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington,

>D.C. 20500

>

>Dear President Bush,

>

>We are writing to voice our opposition to a draft policy developed by the

>Department of Health and Human Services that would allow states to define

> " an unborn child " as a " targeted low-income child " eligible for health

>coverage under the State Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP). This

>unnecessarily inserts abortion politics into a policy where the real goal

>should be to reduce both infant and maternal mortality.

>

>We share your belief that we should do all that we can to expand access to

>prenatal care. Prenatal care is critical to improving health outcomes for

>both mother and newborn child. Yet as a nation, we do far too little to

>provide this type of care. But rather than attempting to improve the health

>of American women and to ensure healthy births, this policy forces a

>contentious abortion battle and an arduous regulatory and legal process that

>may take years to resolve.

>

>Both Medicaid and CHIP already have mechanisms in place to provide prenatal

>care to low-income women. As you know, Medicaid requires states to cover

>prenatal care and maternity care for women with incomes up to 133 percent of

>the federal poverty level ­ and 39 states have higher income ceilings,

>making even more women eligible for care. And while CHIP was designed to

>provide health care to uninsured children, the federal government can grant

>waivers to allow states to cover pregnant women as well. In fact, the

>Clinton Administration granted two such waivers, to New Jersey and Rhode

>Island, on January 18, 2001. There are also bipartisan efforts pending in

>the Congress to expand health care coverage to pregnant women and the

>parents of uninsured children that we hope you will support. The United

>States is currently ranked 25th in infant mortality and 21st in maternal

>mortality, the worst record among the world's developed nations. Rather than

>focusing on the fetus, which creates controversy where none need exist, we

>should expand health coverage to pregnant women, which would improve their

>health and therefore the outcome of the pregnancy.

>

>Given our nation's high levels of infant and maternal mortality, we cannot

>let the critical issue of extending health coverage to pregnant women spiral

>into an abortion debate. Coverage of prenatal care is an issue behind which

>all of us can and must unite. We would welcome the opportunity to work with

>you to increase access to prenatal care to reduce maternal and infant

>mortality, and hope you will consider supporting the bipartisan efforts in

>Congress to expand health care coverage to pregnant women and to the parents

>of uninsured children.

>

>Sincerely,

>

>Senators Corzine, Bingaman, Boxer, Clinton, Dayton, Feinstein, Jeffords,

>Kennedy, Kerry, Lincoln, Mikulski, Murray, , Schumer, Snowe, Stabenow,

>Torricelli

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Mara: Just wanted to say good for you!, congratulations and GOOD

LUCK! I am having my third homebirth next month! :-)

- mommy to Austin (9-27-96) Garrett (1-30-00) and babe in

belly due Sept. 23

>

> >This has some serious repercussions for us or anyone concerning

our rights.

> >CPS will be given an even free-er hand and those that choose

homebirth and

> >especially unassisted homebirth, will be facing CPS.

> >

> > http://www.truthout.com/0500.17.Sens.Letter.htm

> >

> >CORZINE JOINED BY 16 COLLEAGUES IN LETTER TO BUSH

> >

> >WASHINGTON - 08.02.01 | Senator Jon S. Corzine today organized a

bipartisan

> >letter to President Bush opposing a draft policy developed by the

Department

> >of Health and Human Services that would allow states to define "

an unborn

> >child " as a " targeted low-income child " eligible for health

coverage under

> >the State Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP). His letter

was

> >co-signed by a bipartisan group of Senators.

> >

> > " This unnecessarily inserts abortion politics into a policy where

the real

> >goal should be to reduce both infant and maternal mortality, " the

letter

> >states. " We share your belief that we should do all we can to

expand access

> >to prenatal care. Prenatal care is critical to improving health

outcomes for

> >both mother and newborn child. Yet as a nation, we do far too

little to

> >provide this type of care. But rather than attempting to improve

the health

> >of American women and to ensure healthy births, this policy forces

a

> >contentious abortion battle and an arduous regulatory and legal

process that

> >may take years to resolve. "

> >

> >The United States is currently ranked 25th in infant mortality and

21st in

> >maternal mortality, the worst record among developed nations.

Earlier this

> >year, New Jersey became one of two states to receive a waiver,

which allows

> >the state to expand coverage for pregnant women under the CHIP

program,

> >whose primary goal is to insure low-income children and provide

prenatal and

> >maternity care for women. Senator Corzine is an original cosponsor

of th

[Guest guest]

Well, it would have to be enacted first but this is going to give DHHS the

power to deem an unborn child a *poor person* as it has no income.

Some CPS offices will try to charge you with medical neglect and or child

endangerment for homebirth.

I make sure everything is documented and go for it.

I have good reason to live in fear of these of people but I refuse to let

them rob me of my joy.

Love and Blessings,

Ellen

meharv84@...

I am secure in my Lord, Jesus Christ! He is my Saviour, my Protector, my

Salvation, my Healer, my Provider, my EVERYTHING!

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RE: Trouble

> Hi,

> how exactly is this affecting homebirth and CPS?

> I am having my first homebirth ( any day now)and would love to know what I

am up against and what can be done about it. I could not imagine anything

worse than having my child taken away from me by trying to do what's best

for him.

> Love,

> Mara

>

> " Lady Lumbee " <meharv84@...> wrote:

>

[Guest guest]

About 2 years ago Steve had a sinus infection that was not responing to any

of the oral antibotics that the doctors were giving this went on all winter

and into the spring. The lung doctor decided to get a culture and then treat

with the proper antibotic well it did not work either. So the doctor had him

admitted to the hospital to get IV antibotics this worked. We were in the

hospital for a week and when Steve came home he still had to get 1 antibotic

injection a day for a week. My insurance company did not want to pay for

this because they said that there is no reason that any one should be

admitted to the hospital with a sinus infection. The lung doctor wrote a

letter and I yelled at them on the phone (It made me feel better) They

finally paid.

Steve has reflux too and ever since he has been on meds to control that and

meds to control his allergies and asthma his sinus infections seem to be

under better control and there are alot less of them.

I hope this helps.

I can not believe that HR 1350 passed everyone in my family made calls. I

guess that telling the officals what we want is not always what they do.

Becca mom to Alyssa 9 and Steve 5 w/ ds

[Guest guest]

Hi

I am your neighbour.. I am in ..

I know the menu ideas is a big issue... I am combining a bunch of food ideas

and working on making them into menues I will send you some of my recipes

later today. This will give you choices to get started..

Find a way to make someone SMILE today!

Cory

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

>

> Cocnut oil is too hard on me. Not even a speck to eat. So I switched

> to olive oil and have gained weight.

Taking in more calories than you are expending is why a person gains

weight. Do you get any exercise at all?

> I had a theromography breast test which showed up on the scan, so

> they suggested 20 drops of progestrone on each breast twice a day. I

> can handle that.

I dont' understand what you've said here, what was it that showed up

on the breast test?

> I dont know how to eat except maybe to limit my meat intake? Maybe eat

> more fish like salmon and cod?Maybe beans? More salads?

Again, I'm not sure I understand the question but if you're asking

waht to do about the weight gain, first of all you should check the

amounts of what your'e eating against the food ratios suggested in the

files. Make any dietary adjustments necessary.

Green beans (string beans) are ok, any other beans are off limits!

They contain too many carbs.

Add in some exercise....it can be walking, climbing steps, vigorous

housecleaning....just get yourself moving a bit. If you are already

excersing, maybe you need to " step it up " a bit.

>

> I do know my cortisol levels are higher in the morning and I do take

> adrenal plus for that. Adaptogen twice a day as well both on empty

> stomach. I live in Eugene, Oregon and are stumped..anyone can help?

take some deep breaths and have patience, . Your symptoms are

not going to go away overnight....I know it's easy to get frustrated

but we all need to take it one day at a time....and like in your other

post, focus as much as possible on what is RIGHT instead of what is

still wrong....soon there will be much more that is going well for you.

jackie

[Guest guest]

There's a really good website where you can track your

calories, food, exercise and much more that is free:

http://www.fitday.com

I track my food daily as I'm working towards losing

weight. In case you are interested here is my public

journal:

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=debbypadilla

I've lost 56 pounds eating this way. I've been

stalled a few weeks but still maintaining the loss and

not gaining. I exercise regularly.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- jahlstrom78 <jahlstrom@...> wrote:

> > I dont know how to eat except maybe to limit my

> meat intake? Maybe eat

> > more fish like salmon and cod?Maybe beans? More

> salads?

>

> Again, I'm not sure I understand the question but if

> you're asking

> waht to do about the weight gain, first of all you

> should check the

> amounts of what your'e eating against the food

> ratios suggested in the

> files. Make any dietary adjustments necessary.

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

--- Cory <grammaco@...> wrote:

> Hi

> I am your neighbour.. I am in ..

> I know the menu ideas is a big issue... I am

Here are some recipes for everyone:

Simple, No-Dragon-Feed Recipes

26 Dec 2005

Some staple recipes for clean, delicious, but

no-food-thrills, lowcarb, (anti-candida) eating

SALMON TO DIE FOR

A large salmon fillet (I use an entire half-salmon, so

I'll have lots of leftovers.) First line a broiler

pan with foil to help with clean-up (actually I do

that with any meat I cook in the oven). Generously

coat fillet with olive oil, then sprinkle liberally

with sea salt and fresh ground pepper. Put under

broiler on SECOND rack down from top, not the " normal "

broiling height. Broil salmon (no need to turn)

depending on thickness, about 15-25 minutes. (Like

with any broiling, leave the oven door ajar). Salmon

should be golden on top and done all the way through.

(If you broil it too close to the heat it gets burned

on the top way before it's cooked all the way

through.) This is heavenly hot, and really good cold

too. One of my most often requested summer pot-luck

contributions is a slab of this, surrounded by big

stems of fresh dill and chilled at least several

hours, preferably overnight.

MEATBALLS OR MEATLOAF

2 pounds ground turkey, beef or a combo of beef & pork

1/2 finely chopped green pepper

1 whole chopped jalapeno pepper with seeds & pith

(optional)

1 small finely chopped onion

2 cloves finely minced garlic

1 beaten raw egg

Mix all ingredients together well. Shape into

meatballs or meatloaf. Bake meatballs on a foil-lined

jelly-roll pan at 400 for about 20 minutes or until

brown and done. Or place into a large loaf pan and

bake at 350 for about 75 minutes.

BEEF (OR TURKEY)-CABBAGE “CASSEROLE”

In large dutch oven brown 1 pound ground beef or

turkey, season generously w/salt & pepper

Add 1 medium head of cabbage chopped into 1-2 inch

dice

Cook until cabbage is warmed and wilted, but not

totally stewed.

Makes 2-3 servings. I often double this and freeze

some for emergencies (or failure to plan). No reason

why you couldn't add onions, garlic and fresh herbs to

taste here...I just prefer it plain. It's comfort

food for me.

CHICKEN & PEPPER STIR-FRY

3-5 raw boneless chicken thighs or breasts cut up into

bite size pieces

2 green peppers, in 2 " slices

1 red pepper, in 2 " slices

1 yellow pepper, in 2 " slices

1 orange pepper, in 2 " slices

1 jalapeno pepper chopped with seeds & pith (optional)

Stir fry chicken in olive oil or rendered meat fat

until no longer pink. Add peppers and stir-fry for

just a few minutes--peppers should still be crisp.

BEEF ROAST

Any kind of beef roast

1 onion, thinly sliced

1 carrot, peeled and thinly sliced

1 whole clove of garlic, peeled

1 slice of celery, halved

1/4 cup water

Put veggies in bottom of crockpot, put roast on top,

sprinkle liberally with sea salt and fresh ground

pepper. Pour water over all and cook on low all day.

If desired, puree veggies with broth in blender for

“gravy”.

ROAST GARLIC/ROSEMARY CHICKEN

Lay chicken pieces (skin up) out in roasting pan

Finely chop 4-5 large cloves of garlic and sprinkle

over chicken along with salt & pepper

Place sprigs of fresh rosemary over chicken pieces.

Roast in oven at 350 about 1 hour.

(especially good with thighs) Good and different just

with the rosemary or just the garlic too.

CHICKEN OR TURKEY SALAD

Cooked boneless chicken pieces

Green peppers cut up in 1-2 " chunks

Baby carrots, parboiled 6-7 minutes and chilled in ice

water

Broccoli tops, lightly parboiled then chilled, or not

Dress with olive oil, salt and pepper

TOSSED CHICKEN SALAD

Chopped romaine lettuce (or spinach)

A cooked boneless skinless chicken breast, hot or

cold, whole or cut into pieces

Sliced hard boiled eggs

Dress with...yup...olive oil, salt and pepper

SPINACH SALAD

Same as above except no chicken (grin)

SALMON SALAD

Same as above except substitute salmon for chicken

COLE SLAW

Shredded cabbage/carrot combination (you can buy this

pre-shredded or shred it yourself). Dress with--you

know what!–olive oil, salt and fresh ground pepper

" HOT " SLAW

Shredded cabbage/carrot combination *at room

temperature* (otherwise the dressing will harden like

butter (grin))

Salt & fresh ground pepper

Crumbled cooked crisp pork side (optional)

Toss with hot pork side drippings, salt and fresh

ground pepper.

TOSSED SALAD WITH THE WORKS

Chopped/torn lettuce of any (or mixed) varieties (or a

bag of field greens)

Speed/convenience hint: Buy romaine hearts and chop

with a knife

Sliced Radishes

Sliced scallions and/or red onion

Sliced cucumbers

Chopped or shredded carrot

Green, red, and/or orange pepper slices

Chopped red cabbageChopped raw cauliflower/broccoli

Sliced hard boiled egg

ROASTED VEGGIES

Preheat oven to 400-425

Clean/chop/trim into bite sizes the vegetables. Good

choices: onions, carrots, Brussels sprouts, broccoli,

green beans, including any combination of those

Toss veggies in olive oil with some sea salt & freshly

ground pepper

Arrange in single layer on a shallow roasting pan,

jelly roll pan, or in a cast iron skillet

Bake uncovered 20-50 minutes, depending on veggies,

turning/tossing occasionally until done as you like

SOME OTHER IDEAS AND HINTS

Make a turkey and feed yourself for several days. It

doesn't have to be Thanksgiving and you don't have to

be having company. I find cooking them in the oven

bags saves messy ovens and clean-up. Generally

speaking, always make more meat than you’ll eat at one

meal. Planning to have leftovers is the secret the

key to having fast easy food available.

Eat Steak! - pork steaks and beef steaks. Right now it

is a lot more affordable to eat pork steaks. They are

usually a great fat source too. I broil them or grill

them out or cook them on the Foreman grill.

Pork chops are easy and great done on the grill or

baked in the oven; but to change the texture/taste

somewhat different brown in a skillet, then braise for

45-60 minutes or cook in a pressure cooker (with some

water) for about 10 minutes. Pork loin roasts are

usually fast and fairly often on sale. They provide

lots of leftover meat. Fresh thyme is wonderful with

pork (and turkey).

Ribs---country style or back ribs. No, they don't

taste a whole lot different than plain pork, but they

can be fun to eat off the bone. Makes me feel like a

real cave girl anyway.

FAST-FUN and PRETTY DARNED EASY-CLEAN-UP RIBS:

Cut full pork back ribs into halves (to fit LARGE

crock pot), into smaller portions to fit smaller

crockpot

Lightly salt & pepper

Wrap each portion tightly in heavy duty aluminum foil

and place in crockpot

(Do NOT add water or anything else to crockpot!)

Turn crockpot on low and cook all day.

And I seem to NEVER get tired of plain roasted

chicken---thighs or breasts---with the skin cooked

crisp and brown. I either bake it in the oven at 350

for about an hour, or I sometimes do thighs on a

-Foreman Grill about 20 minutes total; boneless

breasts take about 10 minutes. Wings, breasts and

drumsticks with the bones don’t seem to work well in

GF grills because of their irregular shapes.

A frozen vegetable standby is a " California Mix " sold

at my local Sam's Club. Sliced carrots with broccoli

and cauliflower florets. I will often cook a big batch

of this for dinner (oiled w/olive oil or meat fat),

take the leftover veggies and divide them into two

single serving sized plastic containers, plop some

leftover meat into each container and refrigerate. I

have my lunches decided and made for the next two

days.

EATING IN RESTAURANTS

Order steak, hamburgers or broiled fresh fish. Most

restaurant chicken, I find, has been marinaded, beef

is often a better choice for that reason. Ask for

salads with no croutons, no cheese If they don't

offer oil and vinegar in the little cruets, only an

oil and vinegar based dressing, ask them to go to the

kitchen and fetch you a dressing container full of

oil. Ask for your veggies steamed then drizzle the

olive oil over them as well as your salad.

One last note...when it seems you’re up against a

wall, it’s 7 or 8 pm and there's no dinner in sight,

scrambled eggs have more than once saved the day.

Eggs are cheap, they last a long time in the fridge,

and they can be ready in 5 minutes or less. Microwave

some frozen veggies while the eggs are cooking, and

you’re fueled enough to plan a better, smarter day

tomorrow.

© www.leadwiththediet.com

Adele

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

I am a walker and walk at least daily if not more.

[Guest guest]

-cortisol for me is higher in the evening. I am reverse. I have

thyroid syndrome

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

We seem to be getting information about your condition and what you

are taking in pieces, which doesn't give the whole picture. That

makes it very difficult for any of us to help you properly. You are

doing so many things that aren't on the candida program, and some of

them may be interfering with your progress.

Bee

>

> Cocnut oil is too hard on me. Not even a speck to eat. So I switched

> to olive oil and have gained weight.

>

> I had a theromography breast test which showed up on the scan, so

> they suggested 20 drops of progestrone on each breast twice a day. I

> can handle that.

>

> I dont know how to eat except maybe to limit my meat intake? Maybe

eat

> more fish like salmon and cod?Maybe beans? More salads?

>

> I already buy organic in veggies and meat I dont really know who to

> turn to. I have a Naturopath that Iam seeing, and will see her next

week.

>

> I do know my cortisol levels are higher in the morning and I do take

> adrenal plus for that. Adaptogen twice a day as well both on empty

> stomach. I live in Eugene, Oregon and are stumped..anyone can help?

>

[Guest guest]

My copay for a 90-day supply is $300. It used to be $150 for a 102-day

supply. I feel sorry for people with no insurance at all. Sometimes

they just have to go ahead and die, and what do the insurance

companies care if they do?

Sue

On Mar 18, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Jody G. wrote:

> sue, I take Enbrel twice a week and have Medco. I pay $130 for

> a three-month supply. At one point I was only allowed to order a

> month's supply at a time, but now can order a three-month supply.

> So far I haven't had any problems. I hope that you are able to get

> your order soon and am so happy that one injection a week is working

> for you. Hang in there.

[Guest guest]

Sue, oops, I inject Enbrel once a week, not twice a week-- the 50mg

Sureclick.  I hope your shipment comes through exactly the way you are

expecting it to.  How frustrating it must be for you.  I'm sure you don't

need the added stress and aggravation.  It's enough living with RA.  I'm

sending up a prayer for you.  Good luck.

Jody in Schaumburg     

________________________________

From: marysue <marysue@...>

Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 6:25:35 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Trouble

 

My copay for a 90-day supply is $300. It used to be $150 for a 102-day

supply. I feel sorry for people with no insurance at all. Sometimes

they just have to go ahead and die, and what do the insurance

companies care if they do?

Sue

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Jody.

Sue

On Mar 19, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Jody G. wrote:

> Sue, oops, I inject Enbrel once a week, not twice a week-- the 50mg

> Sureclick. I hope your shipment comes through exactly the way you

> are expecting it to. How frustrating it must be for you. I'm sure

> you don't need the added stress and aggravation. It's enough living

> with RA. I'm sending up a prayer for you. Good luck.

>