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I met a yoga teacher in San Francisco who claims to have cured her Graves

with yoga. She spoke at a national endocrinologist convention a couple of

years ago.

So, if I were given the choice of aerobics or yoga, I would probably choose

yoga.

I also think walking is the best exercise for me. My doctor doesn't think

it's a good idea to do anything that will dramatically increase my heart rate

(like a treadmill), so I've decided to give up formal exercise at the gym.

Everyone has to discover and determine what works best for them. Your body

will tell you..so it's important to pay attention to the signals.

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If you want something to challenge you along the lines of yoga, try

Pilates. I have been an exercise junkie forever and run, bike,

rollerblade and swim, have lifted weights done martial arts, but

Pilates is my exercise of choice these days. It is very balanced and

can challenge or accomodate, whatever your level or need.

Siuan

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> I met a yoga teacher in San Francisco who claims to have cured her

Graves

> with yoga. She spoke at a national endocrinologist convention a

couple of

> years ago.

> So, if I were given the choice of aerobics or yoga, I would probably

choose

> yoga.

>

> I also think walking is the best exercise for me. My doctor doesn't

think

> it's a good idea to do anything that will dramatically increase my

heart rate

> (like a treadmill), so I've decided to give up formal exercise at the

gym.

> Everyone has to discover and determine what works best for them. Your

body

> will tell you..so it's important to pay attention to the signals.

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I know that in yoga, head and shoulder stands are definitely recommended to

stimulate the underactive thyroid ( Shomon verifies the benefits of this

as well). Whether this kind of stimulation would be bad for hypers, I don't

know, but you could probably find out by doing a little research. Iyengar's

" Light on Yoga " would probably cover it. When I get home, I'll try to

remember to look it up. Yoga's a great all around healing tool. Iyengar's

philosophy is all about not hurting yourself. That's why he suggests props

and straps, etc. Do what you can without hurting yourself. You'll get lots of

benefit from whatever you do.

Penny

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Hi Dawn, I'm still in the beginning stages of yoga and I think anything that

would physically hurt the thyroid or neck area should be avoided. I don't

know how yoga could hurt hypers since it supposed to be a way of stretching

and relaxing. However, if one is too weak and the muscles are a problem,

I'd hold off until the body felt better. I've been hyper and hypo and

actually did damage to my body when I was hypo. Now I can't use gym

equipment that entails pushing anything overhead, or if I do I use less

weights. I don't know if yoga would stimulate the thyroid, maybe certain

positions, not really sure though. Will have to find out about this.

I'm much more cautious about how I treat my body now, it took a while but I

finally learned a little patience (which is difficult!) and allowed the body

to heal. Now I'm lazy and have to get back in the routine of working out!!

Sounds like a New Years resolution...hahhaha

Enjoy your flight back to Australia.....load up on the magazines!!! Have

happy and safe New Years!! Mona

Re: [Re: Failed Remission]

>

>

>Thanks for the information. I realize that traditional MDs may not be

>receptive to the supplements, but I am tired of having MDs play God and

>tell

>me what I am feeling is in my head. After awhile a person can start to

>believe it! I will continue my path to research and wellness. I am

>beginning

>yoga classes next week and am looking into ways to reduce my type A

>personality into a calmer, gentler type b person. I will continue to

>follow

>the posts. Thanks for your help

>Deb

>

> " " <petri017@...> wrote:

>

> > ---------------------------------------------

> > Attachment: 

> > MIME Type: multipart/alternative

> > ---------------------------------------------

>Debbie,

>

>I can't comment on the thyroid storm (sorry you had to go through something

>so horrible!!!) but I can comment on the supplement list you plan to share

>with your endo.

>

>Please know that most medical doctors are very skeptical of supplements

>helping a hyperthyroid condition. You may be met with resistance or

>dismissal, so be prepared to let it wash over you, if you're committed to

>trying this anyway.

>

>You can tell your endo that there is a person out there who, with a

>moderate-severe case of Graves, went into remission using some supplements

>from this list, following a macrobiotic diet and other alternative things.

>That was my experience. It's also important to note that my Graves

>developed post-partum; however, by the time I went into remission, it was

>clear I had a full blown case of Graves and not post-partum thyroiditis.

>

>I had an unusual allergic reaction to ATDs and was forced to consider

>surgery (RAI not being an option). My endo agreed to work with me for

>three

>months to see if the alternative measures would work, keeping me on beta

>blockers and monitoring me during the time period.

>

>I hadn't yet stumbled across this list, but on my own was taking a lot of

>copper, some zinc, iron, B vitamins, evening primrose oil. I also ate

>macrobiotically, began constitutional homeopathic treatment, and visited a

>naturopath who gave me herbs and referred me to an acupuncturist. In all

>honesty, I had to devote myself to doing this and little else besides

>taking

>care of my very young children. It cost a lot of money and time: worth

>every single cent and minute, having my thyroid.

>

>Currently, I've begun experiencing symptoms of Hashimotos (I have both

>Graves and Hashimotos) and am now attending to the hypo aspect of my

>thyroid

>problems. It's not uncommon to swing back and forth.

>

>So, my brief story and a confirmation, that there are people who have not

>had allopathic treatment and continue to heal.

>

> Barbara

>

>

>

> Failed Remission

>

>

> > I've been hyper for 2 years. For the first 6 months, endo felt no

> > treatment was necessary. Kept complaining of symptoms, was put on

> > tapazole and remained with med until 10/31 of this year when PCP

> > determined that I was having side effects. Endo stopped tapazole and

> > felt I was in remission. A little P.S., I have fought the endo from

> > the beginning that I was not feeling well despite " normal " tsh, T4

> > and T3 levels. Felt wonderful off the meds, no symptoms.

> >

> > 12/11 suffered a thyroid storm landed in the hospital in the PCU unit

> > for 2 days. Current endo not on staff with HMO hospital, received

> > new endo who appears to be willing to work with me. New endo put me

> > on lopressor for heart rate (old endo didn't feel I needed it). I

> > have to have another uptake scan, had extensive blood work done, will

> > know the results on 1/12/01 after scan. I have followed the posts

> > regarding the nutritional supplements and have printed a list to

> > review with the new endo (old endo felt that there wasn't anything

> > nutritionally that would help hyper).

> >

> > I have read every printed medium on the subject of hyper including

> > medical journal articles. I want to make sure that I am being

> > treated correctly, while I would prefer no medication, I need some

> > advice from anyone as to what worked best for them. If anyone has

> > had a similar experience of an endo who didn't work with them and has

> > been through a thyroid storm (I don't ever want to experience that

> > ever again!), please let me know what has worked for you. I have

> > lists of facts and questions but I'd love to hear from you folks who

> > have had to live with this rough disease. While this is a long post,

> > I am looking for generalities in managing this disease so I have some

> > options to post to my new doc.

> >

> > Thanks for your help

> > Deb

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>Debbie

>

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To all,

I teach yoga and have been practicing for six years. The shoulder stand is

the pose most beneficial for hypothyroidism, as it stimulates the thyroid.

If you go to the about.com.thyroid home page (run by mary shonom) there's a

section on yoga and hypothyroidism.

Here's my opinion (just opinion based on experience, as there's no

nationally recognized yoga instructor certification, realize it's from my

own practice and now teaching) on yoga and potential damage to the thyroid

or increase in symptoms. If I was hyper, I would NOT do the shoulder stand.

As someone a little hypo right now, I've begun doing it dailiy.

If a posture causes discomfort that can't be explained by the typical

discomfort of the body in an unusual position, I would recommend not doing

the pose or trying it gently. So instead of plowing through a full downward

or upward dog, try the posture without pushing yourself at all, well within

the limits of comfort. If that's still uncomfortable, I wouldn't do it.

Hope this helps. . . check out information on yoga online and you might find

out more.

-----

From: " Horten, Mona " <mhorten@...>

<hyperthyroidismegroups>

Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:43 PM

Subject: RE: Yoga

Hi Dawn, I'm still in the beginning stages of yoga and I think anything that

would physically hurt the thyroid or neck area should be avoided. I don't

know how yoga could hurt hypers since it supposed to be a way of stretching

and relaxing. However, if one is too weak and the muscles are a problem,

I'd hold off until the body felt better. I've been hyper and hypo and

actually did damage to my body when I was hypo. Now I can't use gym

equipment that entails pushing anything overhead, or if I do I use less

weights. I don't know if yoga would stimulate the thyroid, maybe certain

positions, not really sure though. Will have to find out about this.

I'm much more cautious about how I treat my body now, it took a while but I

finally learned a little patience (which is difficult!) and allowed the body

to heal. Now I'm lazy and have to get back in the routine of working out!!

Sounds like a New Years resolution...hahhaha

Enjoy your flight back to Australia.....load up on the magazines!!! Have

happy and safe New Years!! Mona

Re: [Re: Failed Remission]

>

>

>Thanks for the information. I realize that traditional MDs may not be

>receptive to the supplements, but I am tired of having MDs play God and

>tell

>me what I am feeling is in my head. After awhile a person can start to

>believe it! I will continue my path to research and wellness. I am

>beginning

>yoga classes next week and am looking into ways to reduce my type A

>personality into a calmer, gentler type b person. I will continue to

>follow

>the posts. Thanks for your help

>Deb

>

> " " <petri017@...> wrote:

>

> > ---------------------------------------------

> > Attachment:

> > MIME Type: multipart/alternative

> > ---------------------------------------------

>Debbie,

>

>I can't comment on the thyroid storm (sorry you had to go through something

>so horrible!!!) but I can comment on the supplement list you plan to share

>with your endo.

>

>Please know that most medical doctors are very skeptical of supplements

>helping a hyperthyroid condition. You may be met with resistance or

>dismissal, so be prepared to let it wash over you, if you're committed to

>trying this anyway.

>

>You can tell your endo that there is a person out there who, with a

>moderate-severe case of Graves, went into remission using some supplements

>from this list, following a macrobiotic diet and other alternative things.

>That was my experience. It's also important to note that my Graves

>developed post-partum; however, by the time I went into remission, it was

>clear I had a full blown case of Graves and not post-partum thyroiditis.

>

>I had an unusual allergic reaction to ATDs and was forced to consider

>surgery (RAI not being an option). My endo agreed to work with me for

>three

>months to see if the alternative measures would work, keeping me on beta

>blockers and monitoring me during the time period.

>

>I hadn't yet stumbled across this list, but on my own was taking a lot of

>copper, some zinc, iron, B vitamins, evening primrose oil. I also ate

>macrobiotically, began constitutional homeopathic treatment, and visited a

>naturopath who gave me herbs and referred me to an acupuncturist. In all

>honesty, I had to devote myself to doing this and little else besides

>taking

>care of my very young children. It cost a lot of money and time: worth

>every single cent and minute, having my thyroid.

>

>Currently, I've begun experiencing symptoms of Hashimotos (I have both

>Graves and Hashimotos) and am now attending to the hypo aspect of my

>thyroid

>problems. It's not uncommon to swing back and forth.

>

>So, my brief story and a confirmation, that there are people who have not

>had allopathic treatment and continue to heal.

>

> Barbara

>

>

>

> Failed Remission

>

>

> > I've been hyper for 2 years. For the first 6 months, endo felt no

> > treatment was necessary. Kept complaining of symptoms, was put on

> > tapazole and remained with med until 10/31 of this year when PCP

> > determined that I was having side effects. Endo stopped tapazole and

> > felt I was in remission. A little P.S., I have fought the endo from

> > the beginning that I was not feeling well despite " normal " tsh, T4

> > and T3 levels. Felt wonderful off the meds, no symptoms.

> >

> > 12/11 suffered a thyroid storm landed in the hospital in the PCU unit

> > for 2 days. Current endo not on staff with HMO hospital, received

> > new endo who appears to be willing to work with me. New endo put me

> > on lopressor for heart rate (old endo didn't feel I needed it). I

> > have to have another uptake scan, had extensive blood work done, will

> > know the results on 1/12/01 after scan. I have followed the posts

> > regarding the nutritional supplements and have printed a list to

> > review with the new endo (old endo felt that there wasn't anything

> > nutritionally that would help hyper).

> >

> > I have read every printed medium on the subject of hyper including

> > medical journal articles. I want to make sure that I am being

> > treated correctly, while I would prefer no medication, I need some

> > advice from anyone as to what worked best for them. If anyone has

> > had a similar experience of an endo who didn't work with them and has

> > been through a thyroid storm (I don't ever want to experience that

> > ever again!), please let me know what has worked for you. I have

> > lists of facts and questions but I'd love to hear from you folks who

> > have had to live with this rough disease. While this is a long post,

> > I am looking for generalities in managing this disease so I have some

> > options to post to my new doc.

> >

> > Thanks for your help

> > Deb

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>Debbie

>

>____________________________________________________________________

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>

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> Does anyone have a recommendation that will guide me and Mona as to WHICH

> yoga would be best for hypers/hypos???

Personally, I would recommend tai chi, specifically the Taoist Tai Chi Society

(TTCS). While tai chi is, in essence a martial art, the focus of the Taoist Tai

Chi society is on health benefit and health improvement. There are two MD's

associated with the TTCS who got together with Master Moy when he was alive, and

combined their knowledge of western medicine with his knowledge of eastern

medicine. He surprised them on more than one occasion with the depth of his

knowledge about anatomy and human physiology.

The TTCS also has a division for people with special needs, and an international

health recovery centre. I've seen people with a lot of serious illnesses,

including cancer, AIDS, MS, MD, Parkinson's, arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis,

osteoporosis and others dramatically reduce or eliminate their need for

medication by doing the tai chi. It's not a magic pill, it doesn't work unless

you practice it regularly. By way of example, Marcia is an inch taller than she

was six years ago, and 1/4 inch taller than she ever was before taking tai chi.

Her last scan showed a bone mass of 127% compared to an average woman her age.

There are over a hundred TTCS clubs in 26 countries around the world, and the

organization is run 99% or more by volunteers. Those who are interested can

check out their web site at: http://www.taoist.org/

Me.

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I forget what type of yoga it is that i am doing - i just know that my yoga

teacher insists on NOT doing anything that hurts or puts your body in a

painful position, she firmly believes that a little at a time is the way to

go, and that our bodies will become more supple and stronger if we listen to

our bodies and do it slowly.

She also explained to me that yoga is designed to balance our endocrine

system, so therefore, the shoulder stand will either slow down or stimulate

your thyroid, depending on whether you are hyper or hypo - so it is really

good for all of us.

It's all a matter of moderation and balance - something i'm forever aiming

at, just don't know when i'll get there!

jules

Re: Yoga

> I know that in yoga, head and shoulder stands are definitely recommended

to

> stimulate the underactive thyroid ( Shomon verifies the benefits of

this

> as well). Whether this kind of stimulation would be bad for hypers, I

don't

> know, but you could probably find out by doing a little research.

Iyengar's

> " Light on Yoga " would probably cover it. When I get home, I'll try to

> remember to look it up. Yoga's a great all around healing tool. Iyengar's

> philosophy is all about not hurting yourself. That's why he suggests props

> and straps, etc. Do what you can without hurting yourself. You'll get lots

of

> benefit from whatever you do.

>

> Penny

>

>

>

>

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,

I'd be interested in finding out the name of the book (when you happen to

have it in the same room as the computer!). I'm in the same boat with knees

and ankles. I originally had it in a foot that eventually spread to whole

body and was lucky enough to go into remission with MTX. Anyway, got off

MTX and enjoyed a year + of remission and planning a wedding brought back

flares in the knees and ankles. I'm resisting going on medication and

looking for other ways to deal. I've tried beginning yoga tapes, but there

are still positions that I can't do.

Thanks for sharing!

Sinead

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>

>Subject: [ ] yoga

>Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 15:01:22 -0000

>

>Hey, all. Thanks for the great feedback about the long time to

>diagnosis. My arthritis is most noticeable in my ankles and now my

>knees, so walking is NOT a form of exercise I want to take up. But I

>do know I desperately need to exercise, so I have decided to try

>looking for a yoga class where the instructor is knowledgable about

>people with physical limitations. In the meantime I found a book

>called something like Easy Does It Yoga (I'd give the full name and

>author but that would involve walking into the other room, and that

>is NOT gonna happen) that is focused on yoga for folks like us, and

>even for people who are wheelchair-bound or bedridden. I am starting

>very slowly and carefully--mostly just ankle exercises and arm raises-

>-but so far so good. Does anybody have any experience long-term with

>yoga? Last year, in a moment of delusion, I joined a gym, where I

>tried using the Nautilus equipment while watching all the buff body-

>worshippers toss off seven zillion arm curls without a thought. Ha. I

>unjoined as soon as decently possible. The weird looks I get when I

>am out shopping (a.k.a. limping around) are bad enough, without the

>sneers of people who buy lycra garments by the dozen and obsess about

>reps and abs and delts.

>Isn't it weird how people seem to think that having a disability is

>in some way a moral failing? It's almost like popular culture is

>coming to believe that physical perfection equals virtue.

>

> Stone

>

>

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Oops! I guess I answered this question before I read it in my

response to carpal tunnel! My Yoga instructor is also my massage

therapist. Our classes focus on gentle stretching and relaxation.

Now that I have that background, I purchased several tapes by

Young Living. My favorite is Power Yoga for Beginners with

Rodney Yee (?). That is an old tape and it took Amazon.com

about 2 wks to locate it when my daughter took " our " copy to

college. I really think Yoga could be the answer to my arthritis

problem since a pool is only available a few months in our

community and my feet have ended my walking career! in

KS

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,

I began Hatha Yoga when I was 17. It was a way of life for me. Even though

I had many medical problems throughout the next 20 years, my body and mind

seemed to be prepared and I got through all of it, quite amazingly

actually.

It was only when I was 37 and had a bad fall that things began to change.

I herniated 3 discs in my back. I kept working but found that in one of my

positions (Yoga) I could not raise my legs while lying on my back. This

was odd. The pain was different than anything I had ever experienced. That

is when I went to a doctor and they found the herniations. Months of PT

and a multitude of meds didn't work and I ended up with surgery. It was

after that that my world began to crumble. Too much exercise and scar

tissue went rampant. That was when the FM, OA, etc. began.

The Yoga kept me healthy only so far, but couldn't save me. Gentle Yoga

and a lot of meditation will help just about anyone with an existing

medical problem, though. I strongly support it. It is even great for

people who have had heart conditions, no just stiff, non-moving joints.

Good luck. If you decide to give it a try, just be sure to go to an

instructor who knows what they are doing. There are a lot of people out

there who took some lessons and now all of a sudden start instructing

others without an in depth knowledge of the physiological body and the

mind. Stay away from them.

Let us know how it goes.

Suzanne

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Suzanne, A question about Yoga. I also practice Hatha Yoga. I find that

while I am in yoga class, I fell fine, and can do most of the positions

without pain. But, I expericence greater pain and stiffness the next

morning. Does this happen to you also? June

Re: [ ] yoga

> ,

> I began Hatha Yoga when I was 17. It was a way of life for me. Even though

> I had many medical problems throughout the next 20 years, my body and mind

> seemed to be prepared and I got through all of it, quite amazingly

> actually.

> It was only when I was 37 and had a bad fall that things began to change.

> I herniated 3 discs in my back. I kept working but found that in one of my

> positions (Yoga) I could not raise my legs while lying on my back. This

> was odd. The pain was different than anything I had ever experienced. That

> is when I went to a doctor and they found the herniations. Months of PT

> and a multitude of meds didn't work and I ended up with surgery. It was

> after that that my world began to crumble. Too much exercise and scar

> tissue went rampant. That was when the FM, OA, etc. began.

> The Yoga kept me healthy only so far, but couldn't save me. Gentle Yoga

> and a lot of meditation will help just about anyone with an existing

> medical problem, though. I strongly support it. It is even great for

> people who have had heart conditions, no just stiff, non-moving joints.

> Good luck. If you decide to give it a try, just be sure to go to an

> instructor who knows what they are doing. There are a lot of people out

> there who took some lessons and now all of a sudden start instructing

> others without an in depth knowledge of the physiological body and the

> mind. Stay away from them.

> Let us know how it goes.

> Suzanne

>

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>

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Are you familiar with the " Salute to the Sun " ? I do that three times

every morning right when I get out of the shower. That stretches

every major muscle group in one set of actions. It leaves me ready

to face the day. I often do this with an entire class of students

when we need a good break that stimulates and refreshes.

in KS

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" Salute to the Sun "

is probably the #1 exercise I have ever run across.

You are right on about this!! Not only does it stretch those muscles that

hadn't been doing anything all night, but if you get a chance to do it

outside, in the morning, it brings a whole new light to the day.

Suzanne

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I am not a Yoga instructor, but I'll give it a shot (not of gin either).

Perhaps others that practice this can help me out with details.

1. Stand in Mountain pose. Have your feet about shoulder width

apart with your weight evenly centered, spine straight, arms

relaxed at your side. Breath in deeply and out.

2. Inhale, raise your arms over your head and do a slight back

bend.

3. Exhale and bend at the waist, trying to touch your toes. Just

let your body hang down, letting gravity pull you down as your

muscles relax. (most mornings, I cannot touch my toes the first

time, but can on the second or third.)

4. Inhale as you stretch into runner's position (hands on the floor,

one leg bent, one leg straight--looks like a runner in the blocks

before the start of a race). Head is up, looking forward.

5. Hold your breath as you go to plank position and lower your

body from the push-up position to the floor. Exhale as you reach

the floor.

6. Inhale as you go into Cobra position (push up with your arms.

Your legs are on the floor, your body bends up starting at the waist

until your arms are straight. boy--does this feel good on the lower

back!)

7. Exhale and go into Downward Facing Dog. (hands and feet are

flat on the floor, butt in the air--body looks like a triangle with the

floor being the third side. I don't have a clue how to describe this!!!!)

8. Inhale and go into runner's position with the other leg forward.

9. Exhale and back into standing forward bend (#3)

10. Inhale and go into the back bend (#2).

11. Exhale as you resume Mountain Pose.

repeat two more times.

Good luck. in KS

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At 1:54 PM +0000 10/13/01, leesaosmond@... wrote:

>I tried this many years ago and found the opposite effect. Maybe I

>was 'overstretching', but my sciatica got a lot worse. I have tried

>almost every exercise and therapy in the book and finally found my

>answer in my exercise bike, gentle stretching and light weights. I

>think at the end of the day it is knowing how far you can go. When

>the teacher says 'thats right, now just a little bit more', well

>that 'little bit more' was always the last straw for me. I suppose

>what works for one does not necessarily work for others.

>Just my opinion. Good Luck to all those who try !

>

>

>****

>

, if you want to add a change of venue, you might also try the

Theraballs. They are really very supportive, all the while enables

us to do a gentle but nice stretch. Of course I use the smallest of

the balls for sitting (but I am 4'2) and use the larger one to do a

face down stretch, which just opens my back up wonderfully. It feels

so good!

I have not tried Yoga but I do understand it does help. Although I

did hear that even that offers limitations as we cannot do all the

stretches. But, if you get a good teacher they could help one modify.

My cousin is interested in doing this for " special " physically

challenged students who need more custom plans. I can't wait to see

if she is able to fly with it!

/ Ginny

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Great choice .. Yoga I hear is very good mentally and physically.. My

sister is a registered massage therapist .. And she kept telling me that she

wanted to give me a massage , but I kept saying no and that it wouldnt help

at all... I was very wrong.. It was extremely relaxing and I felt so much

better afterwards physically and mentally..... But a day later I felt crappy

again.... lol.. I guess this needs to be done everyday or something.. I'm

going to be looking into Yoga next..

take-care

mike

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> Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 12:08:55 -0600

> From: " Costello " <costello@...>

>Subject: Yoga

> I just found a new Yoga tape at the health food store: Gentle Yoga for

>Beginners with Suzanne Deason. It is from the Living arts company. When I

>have too much pain to do my regular tape, this will be perfect. It works

on

>focus, stretch and flow. It starts with a 10-minute warm up, followed by

18

>minutes building strength, flexibility and tone, and finishes with a

>2-minute deep relaxation. The great thing about Yoga is you only stretch

as

>far as is comfortable, so many levels of strength and flexibility can

>benefit from the same tape. I do these tapes with my high school students

>as a fun activity during their extended lunch period on Fridays. Although

>they are young and don't have arthritis, they still feel challenged by the

>tapes. I get an afternoon almost free of back pain.

>Kansas

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I get weekly massages. My massage therapist was also my Yoga instructor.

She quit teaching Yoga to teach massage therapy, so I have to rely on videos

now. I feel almost as good after a session of Yoga as I do after a massage.

The last message just said that exercise is the key. I have found that this

gentle stretching exercise if very beneficial.

Kansas

Yoga

> I just found a new Yoga tape at the health food store: Gentle Yoga

for

>Beginners with Suzanne Deason. It is from the Living arts company. When

I

>have too much pain to do my regular tape, this will be perfect. It works

on

>focus, stretch and flow. It starts with a 10-minute warm up, followed by

18

>minutes building strength, flexibility and tone, and finishes with a

>2-minute deep relaxation. The great thing about Yoga is you only stretch

as

>far as is comfortable, so many levels of strength and flexibility can

>benefit from the same tape. I do these tapes with my high school

students

>as a fun activity during their extended lunch period on Fridays.

Although

>they are young and don't have arthritis, they still feel challenged by

the

>tapes. I get an afternoon almost free of back pain.

>Kansas

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I agree with you treatments Maureen... but of course you already know that:o)

Maureen, have you EVER been on Prednisone?

In a message dated 1/16/2003 4:01:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, maureen@...

writes:

> PA seems to vary greatly in how aggressively it attacks and how easily it

> goes into remission. Sometimes it's not taken seriously enough and damage

> happens before the patient is finally put on a DMARD, but perhaps in other

> cases, strong meds could have been avoided if the person can give a

> three-month trial or so to very good nutrition and a serious yoga plan. I

> am repeating myself, but I have had PA 20 years, and up until a recent

> flare, I was lucky enough to have been able to head it off with (going back

> to eating) a super healthy diet and exercise/yoga. I hadn't gone to a

> rheumy in all those years because I had mistakenly understood that only the

> hips could risk damage, and because I was able to carry on with my then

> limited joint involvement, but I've always bounced back on my own, once I

> began to take care of myself properly. (My only slight damage, in the SI

> joint, is from my bad flare last winter/spring, involving many more joints

> than before.).

> I am repeating this because you many new sufferers need to know the dangers

> but also that you may be among the lucky ones if you take good care of

> yourself. (This list can be very scary to read when you've just found out

> about this disease!!)

>

> This time around I still have several stubborn joints though I am not in

> pain and am strong and functional again. I am going the Antibiotic Therapy

> route (treating for infection and taking good care of my immune system

> rather than supressing it), but I think the above discussion makes just as

> much sense if you are going to go the traditional DMARD route. The trend is

> to prescribe DMARDS earlier as apparently they are more effective that

> way...and that makes sense, but only if going on them is inevitable. (RA

> always progresses, PA doesn't always!!) I would first try

> diet/yoga/exercise for a _limited period_ to see if DMARDS must be

> considered inevitable--supressing the immune system is serious business!

> Also, the PA therapy has been an effective DMARD for many, whether or not

> you subscribe to the infection theory. We all know that _nothing works for

> everybody_ (so far:-)). It must also be remembered that if it is an

> infection you are going after, there is no antibiotic that works

> universally for all microbes, and it seems the approach depends on helping

> your immune system in other ways (diet/exercise...). Some people have had

> success weaning off other DMARDS (taken to prevent damage in the meantime)

> and onto AP. If you are interested, I've pasted a very interesting exerpt

> below from a message from a fellow PA sufferer on the 'rheumatic' list.

>

> Two weeks ago I went skiing :-))) About last May I didn't dream I'd be

> doing that again. Thrills and fresh mountain air--that is

> the best pain

> killer of all! (Hope my hips ar OK...:-))

>

> Y'all do something nice for yourselves today.

>

> Maureen in Italy

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Thanks! I needed a good recommendation. I'm actually going to Wild

Oats today. I did a search last night and there were alot out there -

didn't know what to choose from.

-

> I bought my son a videotape called " YOGA KIDS " at Wild Oats, a

health food

> store.

> He loves it.........

>

>

>

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Does anyone know how yoga is for knees with painful cp? I realize stretching

is important so I am thinking yoga may be beneficial (avoiding uncomfortable

twisting positions though). Does anyone have any feedback/experience? Jen

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I do Raquel Welch's 7 day shape up. It is a different 15 minute routine for

each day. Every day starts with deep breathing, does some standing

postures, some floor postures, and ends with either the corpse pose or the

blowing pose.

We do the spinal twist every day. If I can ever cross one leg over the

opposite knee with both hips on the floor, I will throw a parade.

I have an Ali McGraw tape, but don't like it as well as the Raquel because

the poses are fluid, going from one to the next. I spend so much time

looking at the TV, I can't learn the postures. Raquel has a real good one

called " Total Beauty " . That one takes just over an hour I think. She

acheives the posture and holds it. I like that best. I plan to buy it from

EBay soon.

Are you practising now?

Kim

>From: " LBE " <screamingpansy@...>

>Reply-100-plus

><100-plus >

>Subject: Re: Friday's exchanges

>Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 10:35:27 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)

>

> I love doing yoga. What program do you use? I try to record Wai Lana

>from

>one of our PBS stations. I love the music and she does the yoga on the

>beach

> so the backgrounds are beautiful.

>

>Great going on your plan.

>

>

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I agree yoga is great. You can really feel it working. I am a post

myotomy and also had a dilation 6 mos. later. Am now doing great but

also think that yoga plays a part.

Patty

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