Yoga

April 29, 2004

I am allowed to do full stretches and pilates. My only restriction is that I cannot turn my toes inward.

Tamaratwinsnow@... wrote:

can u ever do your full stretches? can u ever do your pilates? has your doctor given you permanent restrictions?

October 11, 2004

Hi Lori:

It's Martha (Chicago). I just read this yoga article, and was so glad that you

posted it. I've been doing a yoga class especially for people w/back pain, and

I feel it's preparing me somewhat for revision surgery at the end of this month.

It is quite amazing that through the breathwork you can form poses you never

thought possible. And afterwards, I feel very flexible for about the next day.

The class is just once a week, and I have a difficult time remembering how to do

all of the classwork when I get home!

We will leave for Wash.U. in St. Louis on 10/26, and then on the 27th they will

put in a central line & I'll meet with the anesthesiologist, then I have the 1st

stage of the surgery on the 28th. The second stage is scheduled for 11/4.

I, too, am relatively calm, thought have some occasional moments of panic

(usually when I first wake up and realize how many days are left until we

leave)!

Thanks so much for posting the yoga article. I'm going to show it to my

instructor tomorrow for her thoughts.

Martha

loriann262000 <lcmelko@...> wrote:

in Oakland,

Here's an article about a yoga teacher who has scoliosis, had

flatback and revision surgery.

http://www.yimag.org/features.asp?articleid=3

Maybe if you could find a way to contact her, she might have some

suggestions?

loriann

-- In , NB <wrdtech@i...>

wrote:

> Can anyone recommend Yoga and Stretching videos for people with

Scoliosis?

>

> I was doing a search, and found one entitled, " Yoga for Inflexible

People " ,

> I wondered if there are others out there (I've got Gentle Yoga from

the

> Yoga Zone) that are good for those of us who due to Scoliosis or

Scoliosis

> surgery, are not flexible enough to do the regular Beginning Yoga

routines.

>

> Thanks!

>

> in Oakland

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October 11, 2004

Hi Martha. Just yesterday it ocurred to me I hadn't heard from you in

a while. I was hoping I didn't miss your surgery, so I looked up the

date in my old emails..... Glad the yoga helps you. I have never

looked into it because I can't stand very long or easily because of

the flatback, and I can't sit on the floor because of my bad hips.

Do you or does anyone else know if much yoga can be done sitting in a

chair or lying on bed? (my favorite two places!)

Wishing you all the best for your surgery!

loriann

> Hi Lori:

> It's Martha (Chicago). I just read this yoga article, and was so

glad that you posted it. I've been doing a yoga class especially for

people w/back pain, and I feel it's preparing me somewhat for

revision surgery at the end of this month. It is quite amazing that

through the breathwork you can form poses you never thought

possible. And afterwards, I feel very flexible for about the next

day. The class is just once a week, and I have a difficult time

remembering how to do all of the classwork when I get home!

> We will leave for Wash.U. in St. Louis on 10/26, and then on the

27th they will put in a central line & I'll meet with the

anesthesiologist, then I have the 1st stage of the surgery on the

28th. The second stage is scheduled for 11/4.

> I, too, am relatively calm, thought have some occasional moments of

panic (usually when I first wake up and realize how many days are

left until we leave)!

> Thanks so much for posting the yoga article. I'm going to show it

to my instructor tomorrow for her thoughts.

> Martha

October 11, 2004

At 06:27 PM 10/11/2004 +0000, loriann262000 wrote:

>Do you or does anyone else know if much yoga can be done sitting in a

>chair or lying on bed? (my favorite two places!)

>

>loriann

We use pillows (zafu or something like that), foam blocks, and do a lot of

work on the mats, AND also you can also do stuff in a chair.

Maybe take a class at a hospital, they seem to be more aware and let you

modify the moves for your disability.

Good luck!

in Oakland

October 14, 2004

Hi Lori:

Good to hear back from you. There are many poses that we learned in class that

the teacher says can be done in bed. It's difficult to explain them in words

and how you coordinate the movements with the breath. I think that if you found

a good instructor, they would show you the sitting and laying down movements

that would be helpful to you with your situation. I wish you were here, so that

you could go to class with me!

Thanks for your good wishes with the surgery. Two weeks from today is stage

one, and then 11/4 is stage two. I hope to be discharged from the hospital on

11/11 and then be back in Chicago around 11/23, after my two week check up.

Bye for now. Hope to meet you in Rochester one day in the " not too distant "

future!

Sincerely,

Martha

loriann262000 <lcmelko@...> wrote:

Hi Martha. Just yesterday it ocurred to me I hadn't heard from you in

a while. I was hoping I didn't miss your surgery, so I looked up the

date in my old emails..... Glad the yoga helps you. I have never

looked into it because I can't stand very long or easily because of

the flatback, and I can't sit on the floor because of my bad hips.

Do you or does anyone else know if much yoga can be done sitting in a

chair or lying on bed? (my favorite two places!)

Wishing you all the best for your surgery!

loriann

> Hi Lori:

> It's Martha (Chicago). I just read this yoga article, and was so

glad that you posted it. I've been doing a yoga class especially for

people w/back pain, and I feel it's preparing me somewhat for

revision surgery at the end of this month. It is quite amazing that

through the breathwork you can form poses you never thought

possible. And afterwards, I feel very flexible for about the next

day. The class is just once a week, and I have a difficult time

remembering how to do all of the classwork when I get home!

> We will leave for Wash.U. in St. Louis on 10/26, and then on the

27th they will put in a central line & I'll meet with the

anesthesiologist, then I have the 1st stage of the surgery on the

28th. The second stage is scheduled for 11/4.

> I, too, am relatively calm, thought have some occasional moments of

panic (usually when I first wake up and realize how many days are

left until we leave)!

> Thanks so much for posting the yoga article. I'm going to show it

to my instructor tomorrow for her thoughts.

> Martha

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advertised products.

June 10, 2005

Never say never. I hate it when anyone tells me that! Each case is an

indivdual.....a person! It took awhile for my doc to realize that.

Now he does and I have no restrictions, except " running, jumping and

kicking " .

I am 5'10 and weight 140 pounds. I have 9 inch scars from my 1997

LTHR, 1998 RTHR (revised June 7, 2004) They are both metal/

cross/linked poly and cemented.

Sue

> I have been a yoga student all my life and have been told that yoga

is

> over for me and that I can never sit on the floor again. Can anyone

> advize me as to what the possibilities are? A nurse at my yoga class

> says I can do alot but she is not an orthopedic nurse.

June 10, 2005

\\Hi dallymare,

I for one still find yoga practice compatible with having a THR but it

will depend on getting a pretty good surgeon and you should explain

your expectations to the surgeon. Never sitting on the floor sounds

complete rubbish to me-I was down on the floor within 4 weeks of my

THR by lowering my bum off the edge of the bed. At 3 months I got on

the floor as normal and at 6 months I started yoga practice in the

house bearing in mind my precautions (not to turn leg in and bend

forward at the same time-but that's not a yoga move.

So before surgery you need to find out what your long term precautions

and impact on your life would be if you chose that surgeon!!!! My

surgeon is happy enough with his technique to let me live a normal

agile life, however I dont push the poses ie put my chest to the floor

as I was never that agile!

Yoga has helped my recovery, posture and walking post op and I need it

for relaxation. I'm now 9 months post op-I just avoid classes as I

dont want to be forced into competing with non-THR people for

flfexibility

I'm 32 and my surgeon is used to young active patients-make sure yours

is too or choose another surgeon. I will also bet that most people

after 3-6 mmonths are able to get on the floor easily.

What you have been told sounds too pessimistic-if it was a surgeon

that told you that chose another. It is normal to want to reach ones

toes and not everyone understands that yoga is no more than gentle

relaxation with some stretching.

Just my opinion based on my 9 months with my THR,

Leigh

> I have been a yoga student all my life and have been told that yoga

is

> over for me and that I can never sit on the floor again. Can anyone

> advize me as to what the possibilities are? A nurse at my yoga class

> says I can do alot but she is not an orthopedic nurse.

June 10, 2005

Thanks for the encouragement. I have one appt. with a surgeon near me with a good reputation and another one who works on dancers and yoga students. I will probably choose one soon. I think I just have to give up the yoga classes and practise on my own as you do. I think that is wise of you. I just had a healing session with my yoga teacher and feel much better. My circulation was all blocked because of anxiety. I could see the difference. She does not want me to go to classes though either. lolleigh_3220004 <Lgh@...> wrote:

\\Hi dallymare,I for one still find yoga practice compatible with having a THR but it will depend on getting a pretty good surgeon and you should explain your expectations to the surgeon. Never sitting on the floor sounds complete rubbish to me-I was down on the floor within 4 weeks of my THR by lowering my bum off the edge of the bed. At 3 months I got on the floor as normal and at 6 months I started yoga practice in the house bearing in mind my precautions (not to turn leg in and bend forward at the same time-but that's not a yoga move.So before surgery you need to find out what your long term precautions and impact on your life would be if you chose that surgeon!!!! My surgeon is happy enough with his technique to let me live a normal agile life, however I dont push the poses ie put my chest to the floor as I was

never that agile!Yoga has helped my recovery, posture and walking post op and I need it for relaxation. I'm now 9 months post op-I just avoid classes as I dont want to be forced into competing with non-THR people for flfexibilityI'm 32 and my surgeon is used to young active patients-make sure yours is too or choose another surgeon. I will also bet that most people after 3-6 mmonths are able to get on the floor easily. What you have been told sounds too pessimistic-if it was a surgeon that told you that chose another. It is normal to want to reach ones toes and not everyone understands that yoga is no more than gentle relaxation with some stretching.Just my opinion based on my 9 months with my THR,Leigh> I have been a yoga student all my life and have been told that yoga is > over for me and that I can never sit on the floor again. Can anyone > advize me as to what the

possibilities are? A nurse at my yoga class > says I can do alot but she is not an orthopedic nurse.

September 8, 2005

I can still feel the port when I walk and my fat jigles, it kind of

stings, has anyone else felt that? I am almost 5 weeks after surgery.

Deborah F.

>

September 9, 2005

Hi Deb

I remember feeling that too. In fact,...even today,..I notice it when I'm driving,...it doesn't hurt,..it's just a little uncomfy, and it on my leftt side where my port is,...and it's like just where it is posotione is possibly where I naturally curve as I sit to drivee but I feel it..Fortunately I don't drive any long distances so it's not a big deal

Deborah <fauchdee@...> wrote:

I can still feel the port when I walk and my fat jigles, it kind of stings, has anyone else felt that? I am almost 5 weeks after surgery.Deborah F.>

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October 5, 2005

Hi I have heard that yoga was good for lower back problems. can you

tell me what kind of yoga exercises are work best for you?? I

talked to one dr before my first surgery that swore doing yoga had

kept him from having to need back sugery for over 4 yrs. I WISH!!!!!

Glad to hear it has worked at least some for you. Sharong Group Owner

> Hi nne,

>

> I am a person from India and I have had the same

> problem of lower back pain and neck pain.

>

> For last 6 months I am doing some Yoga fused with

> floor exercises and I have recovered 40% approx.

>

> You could also try the same. Its not that I dont feel

> the pain at all, but the fact that I can now atleast

> drive and sit longer on my computer as before.

>

> Yoga is great.

>

> Thanks and wish you recover too.

> Vivek

>

> --- julianne

October 5, 2005

Hi I have heard that yoga was good for lower back problems. can you

tell me what kind of yoga exercises are work best for you?? I

talked to one dr before my first surgery that swore doing yoga had

kept him from having to need back sugery for over 4 yrs. I WISH!!!!!

Glad to hear it has worked at least some for you. Sharong Group Owner

> Hi nne,

>

> I am a person from India and I have had the same

> problem of lower back pain and neck pain.

>

> For last 6 months I am doing some Yoga fused with

> floor exercises and I have recovered 40% approx.

>

> You could also try the same. Its not that I dont feel

> the pain at all, but the fact that I can now atleast

> drive and sit longer on my computer as before.

>

> Yoga is great.

>

> Thanks and wish you recover too.

> Vivek

>

> --- julianne

October 5, 2005

Hi I have heard that yoga was good for lower back problems. can you

tell me what kind of yoga exercises are work best for you?? I

talked to one dr before my first surgery that swore doing yoga had

kept him from having to need back sugery for over 4 yrs. I WISH!!!!!

Glad to hear it has worked at least some for you. Sharong Group Owner

> Hi nne,

>

> I am a person from India and I have had the same

> problem of lower back pain and neck pain.

>

> For last 6 months I am doing some Yoga fused with

> floor exercises and I have recovered 40% approx.

>

> You could also try the same. Its not that I dont feel

> the pain at all, but the fact that I can now atleast

> drive and sit longer on my computer as before.

>

> Yoga is great.

>

> Thanks and wish you recover too.

> Vivek

>

> --- julianne

October 5, 2005

About 20 years ago, I was certified as a Yoga instructor. I have not taught a class for at least 15 years, but do practice it still. Effective lower back stretches are the Lion, or Cat, for beginners, then the Cobra, once you get used to the Cat. Breathing is the most important aspect of any yoga routine. Visualtion of your moves, before and during them is also very important. A qualified instructor is the best help for beginners. They will adjust the routine to your needs and abilities and keep you from hurting yourself. I have friends who tried to do yoga from a tape and went too far. Always remember, do NOT do anything which causes you pain or discomfort. I am starting back to do my yoga more routinely and have found that there are some things I just cannot do right now. But I can already feel the benefits. I also use a mental yoga excersize to help with pain during the day. I bring a candle

flame to mind and direct its gentle heat to an area of pain, all mentally, of course. I keep the flame going as long as I feel pain. It is a way to help the body direct endorphines to the site, just a technique. If the area would beneift from cold, then I imagine an ice cube in the same manner.

I hope this helps!

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October 5, 2005

About 20 years ago, I was certified as a Yoga instructor. I have not taught a class for at least 15 years, but do practice it still. Effective lower back stretches are the Lion, or Cat, for beginners, then the Cobra, once you get used to the Cat. Breathing is the most important aspect of any yoga routine. Visualtion of your moves, before and during them is also very important. A qualified instructor is the best help for beginners. They will adjust the routine to your needs and abilities and keep you from hurting yourself. I have friends who tried to do yoga from a tape and went too far. Always remember, do NOT do anything which causes you pain or discomfort. I am starting back to do my yoga more routinely and have found that there are some things I just cannot do right now. But I can already feel the benefits. I also use a mental yoga excersize to help with pain during the day. I bring a candle

flame to mind and direct its gentle heat to an area of pain, all mentally, of course. I keep the flame going as long as I feel pain. It is a way to help the body direct endorphines to the site, just a technique. If the area would beneift from cold, then I imagine an ice cube in the same manner.

I hope this helps!

for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

October 5, 2005

About 20 years ago, I was certified as a Yoga instructor. I have not taught a class for at least 15 years, but do practice it still. Effective lower back stretches are the Lion, or Cat, for beginners, then the Cobra, once you get used to the Cat. Breathing is the most important aspect of any yoga routine. Visualtion of your moves, before and during them is also very important. A qualified instructor is the best help for beginners. They will adjust the routine to your needs and abilities and keep you from hurting yourself. I have friends who tried to do yoga from a tape and went too far. Always remember, do NOT do anything which causes you pain or discomfort. I am starting back to do my yoga more routinely and have found that there are some things I just cannot do right now. But I can already feel the benefits. I also use a mental yoga excersize to help with pain during the day. I bring a candle

flame to mind and direct its gentle heat to an area of pain, all mentally, of course. I keep the flame going as long as I feel pain. It is a way to help the body direct endorphines to the site, just a technique. If the area would beneift from cold, then I imagine an ice cube in the same manner.

I hope this helps!

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October 6, 2005

Hi , although I don't practice Yoga, I have

created some body stretches that work just for me. I

also use visualization and one of mine is of a soft,

puffy cloud supporting my body, taking all the weight.

I works but just until I have to get up and go back

to my 'real' world. Thanks for wonderful idea

julianne

--- john hopper <jrhopper333@...> wrote:

> About 20 years ago, I was certified as a Yoga

> instructor. I have not taught a class for at least

> 15 years, but do practice it still. Effective lower

> back stretches are the Lion, or Cat, for beginners,

> then the Cobra, once you get used to the Cat.

> Breathing is the most important aspect of any yoga

> routine. Visualtion of your moves, before and

> during them is also very important. A qualified

> instructor is the best help for beginners. They

> will adjust the routine to your needs and abilities

> and keep you from hurting yourself. I have friends

> who tried to do yoga from a tape and went too far.

> Always remember, do NOT do anything which causes you

> pain or discomfort. I am starting back to do my

> yoga more routinely and have found that there are

> some things I just cannot do right now. But I can

> already feel the benefits.

> I also use a mental yoga excersize to help with pain

> during the day. I bring a candle flame to mind and

> direct its gentle heat to an area of pain, all

> mentally, of course. I keep the flame going as long

> as I feel pain. It is a way to help the body direct

> endorphines to the site, just a technique. If the

> area would beneift from cold, then I imagine an ice

> cube in the same manner.

> I hope this helps!

>

> ---------------------------------

> for Good

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina

> relief effort.

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October 7, 2005

Hi sounds interesting. The candle thing reminds me of the

biofeedback a dr at the hospital showed me how to do. Its a way of

putting yourself in a comfortable place and teaching your body to

relax and let go of the pain. Right now I am trying hypnosis it

seems to work but the only bad thing is it relaxes me so much I keep

falling asleep before I finish the cd Its interesting though I

have to say that. Sharon Group Owner

>

> About 20 years ago, I was certified as a Yoga instructor. I have

not taught a class for at least 15 years, but do practice it still.

Effective lower back stretches are the Lion, or Cat, for beginners,

then the Cobra, once you get used to the Cat. Breathing is the most

important aspect of any yoga routine. Visualtion of your moves,

before and during them is also very important. A qualified

instructor is the best help for beginners. They will adjust the

routine to your needs and abilities and keep you from hurting

yourself. I have friends who tried to do yoga from a tape and went

too far. Always remember, do NOT do anything which causes you pain

or discomfort. I am starting back to do my yoga more routinely and

have found that there are some things I just cannot do right now.

But I can already feel the benefits.

> I also use a mental yoga excersize to help with pain during the

day. I bring a candle flame to mind and direct its gentle heat to

an area of pain, all mentally, of course. I keep the flame going as

long as I feel pain. It is a way to help the body direct

endorphines to the site, just a technique. If the area would

beneift from cold, then I imagine an ice cube in the same manner.

> I hope this helps!

>

> ---------------------------------

> for Good

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

>

October 24, 2005

That sounds great!

Noelle (12-2-01)Ian (8-15-04)

Yoga

Hi guys,I just wanted to share some good news. I just started taking Gabi to a yoga for the special child class. The first day, she wouldn't do a lot of the stuff, but the second day she did so much stretching and stuff. It looked so good for her. It is expensive, so we go everyother week. She is three, so she is too young to go in a group class, so she takes it with just the instructor. I am so excited about it.

October 27, 2005

i dont think yoga is supposed to go by fast:P

--- Hardin <vhardin@...> wrote:

> Any one know any yoga that goes by fast and is a bit

> fun

>

> Hardin Melville

>

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It does not matter how slowly you go,

as long as you do not stop.

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October 27, 2005

on the contrary power yoga can flow quite quickly. the only one i have is bryan kest. it only moves so fast though.this is my only expierence with quick paced yoga. but somebody mentioned on cathe boards that hard body yoga was really good to. you can see the clip at http://www.collagevideo.com maybe you can find more there too.

kassia

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October 27, 2005

At 02:18 PM 10/27/2005, kris alcs wrote:

>i dont think yoga is supposed to go by fast:P

LOL... yeah and i was trying to think of a yoga workout for valerie

that might satisfy her requirement for fun. i dont know if yoga can

be considered a 'fun' workout, but that is just me.

doesnt leslie sansone have a yoga workout? i think that she

does. would hers be fast and fun? i dunno!

:*carolyn.

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October 27, 2005

If you can hit the mute button!

Kathy

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October 27, 2005

holy cheesesticks batman! Ain't yoga supposed to be

relaxing???! if i had to hear leslie while i was doing

yoga i might just lose it lolololololol

Kris

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<pvisser@...> wrote:

> At 02:18 PM 10/27/2005, kris alcs wrote:

> >i dont think yoga is supposed to go by fast:P

>

> LOL... yeah and i was trying to think of a yoga

> workout for valerie

> that might satisfy her requirement for fun. i dont

> know if yoga can

> be considered a 'fun' workout, but that is just me.

> doesnt leslie sansone have a yoga workout? i think

> that she

> does. would hers be fast and fun? i dunno!

> :*carolyn.

>

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as long as you do not stop.

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October 27, 2005

i found this on a search

Astanga