Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 I'd like to see that fire. I have a great exterminator but I don't think he'd leave Houston. He took care of a wasp problem I had. My animals are my family. My husband is not an animal person,but when we married he had 4 kids and I had 4 pets. I still had less baggage. (Oh yeah, I had 1 kid) Sharon --- diane214@... wrote: > Hey Arlene: Count me in on attitude.... Thats my > middle name. About > those bees in the ground. How do you get rid of > them? I got them on my > front lawn last summer. Tried everything from > pouring gas in the hole > and lighting it...You can't go near the hole cause > there are so many > swarming around it... My son got stung all over. > They actually attacked > him something terrible... So you can only cut part > of the lawn...Looks > real crappy..... > > Hi Sharon: I love animals and hate to see them > hurting... She is lucky > to have a Mommy who loves her and cares. Good Luck > to you and her with > treatment... ;o > > Now Mr. Terry......Looks like we all enjoy the taste > of the Barbie!!!!! > Q....LOL........ I hope you start feeling better.... > I also have severe > pain under my right side..... Have to get to the > Gastro to see if it is > stones in the common duct as suspected.... To tell > the truth I am so > sick of Dr's they just make me want to puke.... I > had my Mri 2 weeks ago > and still no results..... I have been calling there > too... Still can > hardly walk or sit due to back pain and they can't > even let me know what > the hell is going on... The pain is in my bones in > my back.... So > nothing helps... Not even pain Meds.... > > Hi Everyone else...... Where is the cajun > terror????? I was watching a > show last night about Louisiana last night Jan.... > You got all kinds of > nasty predators there girl....... You got to have > brass ones to go out > near them swamps and other places...... That is why > you are the Cajun > Queen I guess.... LOL....... ;o > > Where's Dennis and and everyone else > today????? Sending special > Love and Prayers to each and every one of you.... > > Angel Hugs, > Diane > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, > Peace & Unity > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 I also just prefer to laugh about it---BUT some of the symptoms I get- not being able to sleep most of the time-- can get me going- no not crying - just go-go-go!! I used to be avery outdoorsy type - had horses - used to breed them- & raise the babies(they're so adorable) then train them in the basics-- you know for trail horses- that was my favorite thing to do is just ride & ride all day long!! Now I can hardly walk up to the barn.....it's about 750 feet up the hill beyond the house & just loved riding & racing about on my ATV....I made a trail around the property it was kind of an endurance type trail-- lots of steep hills & I'd also drive the neighbors nuts by racing up & down our road<g> But I don't ride either anymore as it is just to jarring for my liver & other innards<g> Oh what I wouldn't give to be able to do these things again....... arlene Terry Long wrote: > Arlene with this disease you can chose to cry or > laugh. I'll be damed if I'm going to let get the best > of me. Even if it does me in. I'll be laughing all the > way to the pearly gates. > Terry > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > > Jan this attitude one of the things that helps me > > make it thru the > > 'thick & thin' of life & this deaded disease!!! > > That & I'm just too > > stubborn--that helps a lot!! Laughing always makes > > me feel good -even > > when I laugh so hard that it hurts<g>!!!!!!! > > Laughter can be very > > contagious & at times you can even get a sourpuss > > to @ least crack a > > smile..... That I like...LOL > > arlene > > > > Jannewilms42@... wrote: > > > > > Arlene you sound alot like Diane and I...Who > > wants to feel old or be > > > old?? I sure don't..Like I " ve said I'll always be > > a kid at heart..I > > > may not always show it but I do enjoy cuttin up a > > bit myself... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 No it's not liver pain -- it's the sac around the liver & & & Yes IT does feel pain!! Even had a dr agree with me on that one<g> arlene Jannewilms42@... wrote: Arlene I have been going through that for sometime now but always remember THE LIVER FEELS NO PAIN!!!! That's what the Drs say anyway so it must be our imagination huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 We had a good one. I had a ski trip planned with my son on Saturday. We went, but it was a long drive through the snow all the way. On the bright side I skiid pretty much all day, I never thought I'd have enough energy to do that (I'm not an accomplished skier, this is my 2nd trip). I was happy to see I am getting my energy back. We ended up with about a foot of snow and it was -13 when I got up this morning. I think it's hovering around 0 now. Oh well, we've had a mild winter up until now. -dz- --- Dennis <dhuber@...> wrote: > I'm doin ok today but not much drive. I piled some > wood this morning and > took the dogs for a walk. > Judy has teaching a Reiki class all day so I guess > it is up to me to make > supper. I can't decide between chili and pizza - I > make my own dough in the > bread machine. Guess I better see if I can find a > coin to flip. > I see DZ is having winter weather and it's head my > way. We are only > supposed to get rain - but we really need it - the > resivours in the north > east are very low and there will be very little > spring snow melt - not a > good thing. The smaller ponds are starting to open > up so canoeing, sailing, > and fishing aren't too far away. > Hope everyone is having a good day. > > Dennis > > > Re: [ ] Dennis > > > > Arlene, I do about 98% of the cooking in our > house, > > have most of our married life. In my late teens & > > early twenty's I was the lead cook in a nursing > home. > > Our chef tryed to talk me into going to school to > be a > > chef. But I didn't like working nights & > hollidays. So > > I decidded not to go that rout. > > Susy is always saying she might be getting > older > > but she refuses to grow up. > > Terry > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > > > @ times Diane----don't do a whole lotta > > > cookin----this past year..Ken has > > > been the cook a lot of the time....but when he's > > > workin' long hours -I manage > > > to keep him well-fed.......Basically @ heart I'm > > > still a 'wild child' > > > Imagine that @ my age--of course I'll never > really > > > get old!!!!!! I know some > > > people in their 20-30's that are calmer than > > > I...what duds!! I went out and > > > vortec's a few people today<g> LOL > > > arlene > > > > > > diane214@... wrote: > > > > > > > Arlene my girl, I am sure you can whipp up a > mean > > > pot of anything!!!! > > > > LOL........ > > > > Arlene Oakley!!!!!!!!! ;o > > > > > > > > Angel Hugs, > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, > > > Hope, Peace & Unity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Good attitude. Let's hope it doesn't end up to be true. That was the reason I decided to be forthright about my past drug use, for the benefit of the study of the causes and effects of this disease. Deaths years ago were most often attributed to heart failure, I think technically that's what all deaths are caused by, but what led to the heart failure? -dz- --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > Well when I reach the pearly gates and I know in my > heart it was the Hep that > caused my death in one way or another I told my > hubby I do not want anyone > saying what the Drs said I died from but that the > Hep caused it..Hopefully it > will open others minds..I am no longer ashamed of it > and I feel it should be > known..Just think how many people have passed due to > something the Hep > caused..Because without it it may not have > happened..Hummmm something to > think about.. > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Arlene, I'm sorry to hear about your pain in the liver. Your Doctor is most likely right about limting the pain meds. All of the ones I know of say they can cause liver damage. Terry --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > I have also been having tremendous pain in RUQ > area...my liver is really > paining me even my lower frontal ribs feel > bruised....I don't like too take > too many pain meds- my gastro doc only allows me to > take 2 per week so my > rx's are for only 10 per month.....doesn't want me > doing anymore harm to that > darn liver!! Also he's afraind I might get addicted > to them...... that's has > never been a problem for me as my BRAIN & Willpower > just will not allow me to > get addicted!! seriously---I wish & plan to live > longer than addiction would > allow!! > arlene > > diane214@... wrote: > > > Hey Arlene: Count me in on attitude.... Thats my > middle name. About > > those bees in the ground. How do you get rid of > them? I got them on my > > front lawn last summer. Tried everything from > pouring gas in the hole > > and lighting it...You can't go near the hole cause > there are so many > > swarming around it... My son got stung all over. > They actually attacked > > him something terrible... So you can only cut part > of the lawn...Looks > > real crappy..... > > > > Hi Sharon: I love animals and hate to see them > hurting... She is lucky > > to have a Mommy who loves her and cares. Good Luck > to you and her with > > treatment... ;o > > > > Now Mr. Terry......Looks like we all enjoy the > taste of the Barbie!!!!! > > Q....LOL........ I hope you start feeling > better.... I also have severe > > pain under my right side..... Have to get to the > Gastro to see if it is > > stones in the common duct as suspected.... To tell > the truth I am so > > sick of Dr's they just make me want to puke.... I > had my Mri 2 weeks ago > > and still no results..... I have been calling > there too... Still can > > hardly walk or sit due to back pain and they can't > even let me know what > > the hell is going on... The pain is in my bones in > my back.... So > > nothing helps... Not even pain Meds.... > > > > Hi Everyone else...... Where is the cajun > terror????? I was watching a > > show last night about Louisiana last night Jan.... > You got all kinds of > > nasty predators there girl....... You got to have > brass ones to go out > > near them swamps and other places...... That is > why you are the Cajun > > Queen I guess.... LOL....... ;o > > > > Where's Dennis and and everyone else > today????? Sending special > > Love and Prayers to each and every one of you.... > > > > Angel Hugs, > > Diane > > > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, > Hope, Peace & Unity > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Dz it sounds like you had a good time with your son. This is my son's first year living up near you " his first year to live in the miswest seance he was 2 years old " I bet he's freezing his but off. I'm glad to hear that you are getting your energy back. Terry --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote: > We had a good one. I had a ski trip planned with my > son on Saturday. We went, but it was a long drive > through the snow all the way. On the bright side I > skiid pretty much all day, I never thought I'd have > enough energy to do that (I'm not an accomplished > skier, this is my 2nd trip). I was happy to see I am > getting my energy back. We ended up with about a > foot > of snow and it was -13 when I got up this morning. I > think it's hovering around 0 now. Oh well, we've had > a > mild winter up until now. -dz- > > --- Dennis <dhuber@...> wrote: > > I'm doin ok today but not much drive. I piled > some > > wood this morning and > > took the dogs for a walk. > > Judy has teaching a Reiki class all day so I guess > > it is up to me to make > > supper. I can't decide between chili and pizza - > I > > make my own dough in the > > bread machine. Guess I better see if I can find a > > coin to flip. > > I see DZ is having winter weather and it's head my > > way. We are only > > supposed to get rain - but we really need it - the > > resivours in the north > > east are very low and there will be very little > > spring snow melt - not a > > good thing. The smaller ponds are starting to > open > > up so canoeing, sailing, > > and fishing aren't too far away. > > Hope everyone is having a good day. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > Re: [ ] Dennis > > > > > > > Arlene, I do about 98% of the cooking in our > > house, > > > have most of our married life. In my late teens > & > > > early twenty's I was the lead cook in a nursing > > home. > > > Our chef tryed to talk me into going to school > to > > be a > > > chef. But I didn't like working nights & > > hollidays. So > > > I decidded not to go that rout. > > > Susy is always saying she might be getting > > older > > > but she refuses to grow up. > > > Terry > > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > > > > @ times Diane----don't do a whole lotta > > > > cookin----this past year..Ken has > > > > been the cook a lot of the time....but when > he's > > > > workin' long hours -I manage > > > > to keep him well-fed.......Basically @ heart > I'm > > > > still a 'wild child' > > > > Imagine that @ my age--of course I'll never > > really > > > > get old!!!!!! I know some > > > > people in their 20-30's that are calmer than > > > > I...what duds!! I went out and > > > > vortec's a few people today<g> LOL > > > > arlene > > > > > > > > diane214@... wrote: > > > > > > > > > Arlene my girl, I am sure you can whipp up a > > mean > > > > pot of anything!!!! > > > > > LOL........ > > > > > Arlene Oakley!!!!!!!!! ;o > > > > > > > > > > Angel Hugs, > > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With > Love, > > > > Hope, Peace & Unity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 I have been fairly open about Hep C. How it's transmitted. Wjat it does to you. the treatment & what it does to you. Terry --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > Well when I reach the pearly gates and I know in my > heart it was the Hep that > caused my death in one way or another I told my > hubby I do not want anyone > saying what the Drs said I died from but that the > Hep caused it..Hopefully it > will open others minds..I am no longer ashamed of it > and I feel it should be > known..Just think how many people have passed due to > something the Hep > caused..Because without it it may not have > happened..Hummmm something to > think about.. > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Arlene I have been going through that for sometime now but always remember THE LIVER FEELS NO PAIN!!!! That's what the Drs say anyway so it must be our imagination huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 dz good question!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 There's an old joke about why a dog is man's best friend. They're always happy to see you, and they don't talk back. -dz- --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > Sharon my dog was here before my hubby was too and > he knows he'll go > first..My dog loves me unconditionally..He is > faithful..honest..loyal..He is > my baby..Now as far as the hubby I doubt he is any > of those things...He knows > how I feel about my Shakey!!! > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Thanks for the tip Arlerne... I have to be careful of that tho, cause pets walk on my lawn and it is a dangerous insecticide.... I may have no other choice tho'..... Thanks Arlene ;o Angel Hugs, Diane May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Jan is a sweetheart when FLOYD is gone!!!! LOL..... Couldn't resist Jan.... You are always a sweetie to the group..... Angel Hugs, Diane May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With Love, Hope, Peace & Unity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 I thank we need to give some of these Doctors a small dose of what were going through Terry --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > Arlene I have been going through that for sometime > now but always remember > THE LIVER FEELS NO PAIN!!!! That's what the Drs say > anyway so it must be our > imagination huh? > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Terry excellent idea & I just cracked up over POLICE thingee Terry Long wrote: > I thank we need to give some of these Doctors a > small dose of what were going through > Terry > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > > Arlene I have been going through that for sometime > > now but always remember > > THE LIVER FEELS NO PAIN!!!! That's what the Drs say > > anyway so it must be our > > imagination huh? > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 It's true. They're much more dependable than people. Sharon --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote: > There's an old joke about why a dog is man's best > friend. They're always happy to see you, and they > don't talk back. -dz- > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > > Sharon my dog was here before my hubby was too and > > he knows he'll go > > first..My dog loves me unconditionally..He is > > faithful..honest..loyal..He is > > my baby..Now as far as the hubby I doubt he is any > > of those things...He knows > > how I feel about my Shakey!!! > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Actually the Dr. is probably FULL of IT & now he's trying to make you believe you're full of it. Sure wish Some of these Doc's could truly experience the full effects of this virus! Instead of saying 'it's all in your mind' arlene imaganeer wrote: > At least your doctor took that step, my doctor told me > it was unrelated to hcv and gave me some meds for > them. I got them and reading up on them, they had > something to do with the bowels, I assume to help you > have a bowel movement which I could have told him had > no relationship with this pain. Or maybe he was just > trying to tell me that I was full of it? -dz- > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > > No it's not liver pain -- it's the sac around the > > liver & & & Yes IT does > > feel pain!! Even had a dr agree with me on that > > one<g> > > arlene > > > > Jannewilms42@... wrote: > > > > > Arlene I have been going through that for > > sometime now but always > > > remember THE LIVER FEELS NO PAIN!!!! That's what > > the Drs say anyway > > > so it must be our imagination huh? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Yes, I was surprised that I could do it. That was the most of a workout I've had since starting tx. It felt good. Our weather broke a little. The good news is it's 22 degrees right now (7:00am). The bad news is I'm going to have to go out and blow snow again. I didn't even realize it until I just heard a snowblower down the street, then I peeked out the window. Damn the luck! Well, I guess I need to dig down for a little more energy to get that snowblower going. -dz- --- Terry Long <pawpawto3@...> wrote: > Dz it sounds like you had a good time with your > son. > This is my son's first year living up near you " his > first year to live in the miswest seance he was 2 > years old " I bet he's freezing his but off. > I'm glad to hear that you are getting your energy > back. > Terry > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote: > > We had a good one. I had a ski trip planned with > my > > son on Saturday. We went, but it was a long drive > > through the snow all the way. On the bright side I > > skiid pretty much all day, I never thought I'd > have > > enough energy to do that (I'm not an accomplished > > skier, this is my 2nd trip). I was happy to see I > am > > getting my energy back. We ended up with about a > > foot > > of snow and it was -13 when I got up this morning. > I > > think it's hovering around 0 now. Oh well, we've > had > > a > > mild winter up until now. -dz- > > > > --- Dennis <dhuber@...> wrote: > > > I'm doin ok today but not much drive. I piled > > some > > > wood this morning and > > > took the dogs for a walk. > > > Judy has teaching a Reiki class all day so I > guess > > > it is up to me to make > > > supper. I can't decide between chili and pizza > - > > I > > > make my own dough in the > > > bread machine. Guess I better see if I can find > a > > > coin to flip. > > > I see DZ is having winter weather and it's head > my > > > way. We are only > > > supposed to get rain - but we really need it - > the > > > resivours in the north > > > east are very low and there will be very little > > > spring snow melt - not a > > > good thing. The smaller ponds are starting to > > open > > > up so canoeing, sailing, > > > and fishing aren't too far away. > > > Hope everyone is having a good day. > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > Re: [ ] Dennis > > > > > > > > > > Arlene, I do about 98% of the cooking in > our > > > house, > > > > have most of our married life. In my late > teens > > & > > > > early twenty's I was the lead cook in a > nursing > > > home. > > > > Our chef tryed to talk me into going to school > > to > > > be a > > > > chef. But I didn't like working nights & > > > hollidays. So > > > > I decidded not to go that rout. > > > > Susy is always saying she might be getting > > > older > > > > but she refuses to grow up. > > > > Terry > > > > --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > > > > > @ times Diane----don't do a whole lotta > > > > > cookin----this past year..Ken has > > > > > been the cook a lot of the time....but when > > he's > > > > > workin' long hours -I manage > > > > > to keep him well-fed.......Basically @ heart > > I'm > > > > > still a 'wild child' > > > > > Imagine that @ my age--of course I'll never > > > really > > > > > get old!!!!!! I know some > > > > > people in their 20-30's that are calmer than > > > > > I...what duds!! I went out and > > > > > vortec's a few people today<g> LOL > > > > > arlene > > > > > > > > > > diane214@... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Arlene my girl, I am sure you can whipp up > a > > > mean > > > > > pot of anything!!!! > > > > > > LOL........ > > > > > > Arlene Oakley!!!!!!!!! ;o > > > > > > > > > > > > Angel Hugs, > > > > > > Diane > > > > > > > > > > > > May Rainbow Dreams Color Your World With > > Love, > > > > > Hope, Peace & Unity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Well, thank you. Now I wish I knew what it was.... -dz- --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > dz good question!!!! > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 At least your doctor took that step, my doctor told me it was unrelated to hcv and gave me some meds for them. I got them and reading up on them, they had something to do with the bowels, I assume to help you have a bowel movement which I could have told him had no relationship with this pain. Or maybe he was just trying to tell me that I was full of it? -dz- --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > No it's not liver pain -- it's the sac around the > liver & & & Yes IT does > feel pain!! Even had a dr agree with me on that > one<g> > arlene > > Jannewilms42@... wrote: > > > Arlene I have been going through that for > sometime now but always > > remember THE LIVER FEELS NO PAIN!!!! That's what > the Drs say anyway > > so it must be our imagination huh? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 At least your doctor took that step, my doctor told me it was unrelated to hcv and gave me some meds for them. I got them and reading up on them, they had something to do with the bowels, I assume to help you have a bowel movement which I could have told him had no relationship with this pain. Or maybe he was just trying to tell me that I was full of it? -dz- --- ACE <arken@...> wrote: > No it's not liver pain -- it's the sac around the > liver & & & Yes IT does > feel pain!! Even had a dr agree with me on that > one<g> > arlene > > Jannewilms42@... wrote: > > > Arlene I have been going through that for > sometime now but always > > remember THE LIVER FEELS NO PAIN!!!! That's what > the Drs say anyway > > so it must be our imagination huh? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Thanks Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Due to that damn CRS I forgot too!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted March 7, 2002 Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 That they are. It occurs to me that I referred to you as " Sandy " on an earlier post. Shame on me. I should remember, my mom's name is Sharon Zierhart (pretty close, eh) --- Sharon Zeis <szeis_1@...> wrote: > It's true. They're much more dependable than > people. > > Sharon > --- imaganeer <imaganeer@...> wrote: > > There's an old joke about why a dog is man's best > > friend. They're always happy to see you, and they > > don't talk back. -dz- > > > > --- Jannewilms42@... wrote: > > > Sharon my dog was here before my hubby was too > and > > > he knows he'll go > > > first..My dog loves me unconditionally..He is > > > faithful..honest..loyal..He is > > > my baby..Now as far as the hubby I doubt he is > any > > > of those things...He knows > > > how I feel about my Shakey!!! > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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