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[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone,

I dabbled in soap making a few years ago, but recently(last week) took it up

again. My

children have eczema and I would like to provide some comfort as well as quality

products to

eventually sell. I make cp using the crockpot, but will be trying cphp. I make

whipped shea

and have tried lotion, but it didn't come out quite the way I wanted it to.

Look forward to

learning alot.

>

> Greetings:

>

> Just wanted to introduce myself. I am very interested in more homemade

> beauty products recipes. Currently I have my own soaps, candles, and

> sugar scrubs--however I'm eager for more information. I look forward

> to chatting and sharign with everybody!

>

[Guest guest]

Hi my name is Willow - welcome to the group and your

name is????

;o)

--- agapeisgodslove <agapeisgodslove@...> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

> I dabbled in soap making a few years ago, but

> recently(last week) took it up again. My

> children have eczema and I would like to provide

> some comfort as well as quality products to

> eventually sell. I make cp using the crockpot, but

> will be trying cphp. I make whipped shea

> and have tried lotion, but it didn't come out quite

> the way I wanted it to. Look forward to

> learning alot.

>

>

> >

> > Greetings:

> >

> > Just wanted to introduce myself. I am very

> interested in more homemade

> > beauty products recipes. Currently I have my own

> soaps, candles, and

> > sugar scrubs--however I'm eager for more

> information. I look forward

> > to chatting and sharign with everybody!

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there

A Calendula loton or cream with aloe vera works very well for excema and is

rather easy to make by infusion of calendula into oils and water. If you do not

have fresh calendula petals, the List Mom here sells dried calendula petals.

There is a formula for candula cream on the List Moms website I wrote for her

that you might want to check out.

http://www.glenbrookfarm.com/face_creams.htm

and also how to do infusions is on her lotion recipe page

http://www.glenbrookfarm.com/makinglotions.htm

For more healing effect of a cream or lotion you can do stronger infusions,

and increase the aloe vera juice, both of which are excellent healers.

Infusion of oatmeal adds a very soothing property to a lotion or cream for those

with skin problems and excema.

For severe itching you might want to add ground oatmeal and baking soda to the

bath water to relieve the itching.

I wrote most all my ebooks because my children plus myself all have severe

allergies and my daughter had excema so I developed many recipes to help her

skin disorder and it really helped eliminate the problem....

Oh, also she also uses calendula soap made with infused calendula into olive

oil and water and makes a lovely light yellow bar of soap.

hth

Sherry

Sherry's Creations

Natural Care E-books & Spreadsheets

http://www.herbalsoap-healingcreams.com/

[Guest guest]

O so sorry for mentioning that-UGH--my name is Yetunde

L M DiCenzo <lmdicenzo@...> wrote: Hi my name is Willow - welcome

to the group and your

name is????

;o)

--- agapeisgodslove <agapeisgodslove@...> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

> I dabbled in soap making a few years ago, but

> recently(last week) took it up again. My

> children have eczema and I would like to provide

> some comfort as well as quality products to

> eventually sell. I make cp using the crockpot, but

> will be trying cphp. I make whipped shea

> and have tried lotion, but it didn't come out quite

> the way I wanted it to. Look forward to

> learning alot.

>

>

> >

> > Greetings:

> >

> > Just wanted to introduce myself. I am very

> interested in more homemade

> > beauty products recipes. Currently I have my own

> soaps, candles, and

> > sugar scrubs--however I'm eager for more

> information. I look forward

> > to chatting and sharign with everybody!

> >

>

>

>

Yetunde

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[Guest guest]

??? I am not sure what you mean Yetunde - but nice to

meet you and glad to have you on this list! ;o)

Willow

--- Yetunde Pinckney <yeyo6241@...> wrote:

> O so sorry for mentioning that-UGH--my name is

> Yetunde

>

> L M DiCenzo <lmdicenzo@...> wrote: Hi

> my name is Willow - welcome to the group and your

> name is????

> ;o)

> --- agapeisgodslove <agapeisgodslove@...>

> wrote:

>

> > Hello Everyone,

> > I dabbled in soap making a few years ago, but

> > recently(last week) took it up again. My

> > children have eczema and I would like to provide

> > some comfort as well as quality products to

> > eventually sell. I make cp using the crockpot, but

> > will be trying cphp. I make whipped shea

> > and have tried lotion, but it didn't come out

> quite

> > the way I wanted it to. Look forward to

> > learning alot.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Greetings:

> > >

> > > Just wanted to introduce myself. I am very

> > interested in more homemade

> > > beauty products recipes. Currently I have my own

> > soaps, candles, and

> > > sugar scrubs--however I'm eager for more

> > information. I look forward

> > > to chatting and sharign with everybody!

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Yetunde

> Brought 2 U by Letter " V " -Nikki Giovanni

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Sherry,

I believe I used both the sites as a reference when making my lotion. I do put

baking soda

and oatmeal in my dd bath and will make a castile soap for her this week infused

with

calendula and a little oatmeal. I've had eczema all of my life and my mother

really did not

know what to do. That is what originally started my passion for making homemade

natural

products....Ms. Jon

>

> Hi there

>

> A Calendula loton or cream with aloe vera works very well for excema and is

rather

easy to make by infusion of calendula into oils and water. If you do not have

fresh

calendula petals, the List Mom here sells dried calendula petals.

>

> There is a formula for candula cream on the List Moms website I wrote for

her that you

might want to check out.

>

> http://www.glenbrookfarm.com/face_creams.htm

>

> and also how to do infusions is on her lotion recipe page

>

> http://www.glenbrookfarm.com/makinglotions.htm

>

>

> For more healing effect of a cream or lotion you can do stronger infusions,

and

increase the aloe vera juice, both of which are excellent healers. Infusion of

oatmeal adds

a very soothing property to a lotion or cream for those with skin problems and

excema.

>

> For severe itching you might want to add ground oatmeal and baking soda to

the bath

water to relieve the itching.

>

> I wrote most all my ebooks because my children plus myself all have severe

allergies

and my daughter had excema so I developed many recipes to help her skin disorder

and it

really helped eliminate the problem....

>

> Oh, also she also uses calendula soap made with infused calendula into olive

oil and

water and makes a lovely light yellow bar of soap.

>

> hth

> Sherry

>

>

> Sherry's Creations

> Natural Care E-books & Spreadsheets

> http://www.herbalsoap-healingcreams.com/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group.You will learn a great deal from great people..

>

> I'm also new. I'm in Southwestern Indiana, where we

> are getting storms again this afternoon. My area has

> recieved three inches, but other areas are still

> lagging way behind and we're still in drought. (Can

> you tell I'm also a gardener?)

>

> I've tried making some soaps and things in the past.

> Some with a bit of luck, some with total disaster! I

> just bought some soap making supplies and want to try

> again, so you can tell I'm far from proficient in this

> area. I have a small herb garden that I'd like to

> figure out how to use in conjunction with stuff like

> this, and I have a daughter and DIL who both love

> homemade things over store bought. They are both very

> impressed when I tell them I made their gifts myself.

> I had no idea this younger generation would be so into

> homemade, as when I was growing up, homemade was not

> special -- it was what everyone did every single day.

> LOL!

>

> Looking forward to learning from the group and perhaps

> meeting new people and making new friends. I moved

> from the Chicago area about five years ago, where I

> was born and raised. Moving into a new area in my 50s

> has been quite an experience! So, always welcome

> meeting new people -- more now than ever!

>

> Thank you for letting me join you.

>

> Suze, zone 6

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/16/2007 6:17:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

ibeecarrie@... writes:

I'm here because my poor sweet 4 month old dd had a seizure a little more

than a week ago.

How horrible. I'm glad she is feeling better. You have taken the first

step by opening your mind to the possibility vaccines are harmful and

ineffective. Did your Dr. try to deny the connection? There is a lot to learn

on this

group. Welcome!

Holly

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In a message dated 9/16/2007 7:25:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

ibeecarrie@... writes:

I couldn't get anyone to agree that they were seizures, I could tell though

because I'm her mom and I know she wasn't " right " .

I think that is the biggest thing, we are the parents, and we know when

something isn't right. Stick w/it and make sure it gets reported. I believe

you

can report it yourself as well. I'm not to sure of those procedures. We

were lucky enough to find the truth before (18 months) was born.

Holly

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[Guest guest]

Hi Holly. I will not be vaccinating her at all for as long as possible. She can

get them as an adult if she likes. If I am forced to home school.......so be it.

I thought I'd have a hard time with getting the diagnosis at first. The ER doc

kept saying " alledged " seizure. Even though I had 3 police officers and 3

paramedics witness it. (there just happened to be an officer on my block when I

called 911 and my neighbors are both officers)

However, my Ped said he believes it was the vaccines but won't make a

difinitive diagnosis until she sees the Pediatric neurologist in November and

gets a clean bill of health. He said he'd report it then. I just hope he doesn't

get any heat before hand and change his mind. I'm not dumb enough to think that

this is going to go smoothly.

I am just praying that it is her first and only seizure. She appeared to have

two others in the PICU that night but I couldn't get anyone to agree that they

were seizures, I could tell though because I'm her mom and I know she wasn't

" right " .

mensrea320@... wrote:

In a message dated 9/16/2007 6:17:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

ibeecarrie@... writes:

I'm here because my poor sweet 4 month old dd had a seizure a little more

than a week ago.

How horrible. I'm glad she is feeling better. You have taken the first

step by opening your mind to the possibility vaccines are harmful and

ineffective. Did your Dr. try to deny the connection? There is a lot to learn on

this

group. Welcome!

Holly

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[Guest guest]

Hi , welcome. I know you will be glad you joined. There is lots to

learn. Sorry you had to learn the dangers of vaccines the way you did. I was

lucky that my child didn't have adverse reactions. I have only vaxed her to 2

years old. My second child hasn't recieved any at all. Good to see you here

anyway.

Fieldman

Newbie Intro

Hi, I'm new and just thought I should introduce myself. My name is . I'm

a SAHM of 3 ages 10, 7 and 4 months. I'm here because my poor sweet 4 month old

dd had a seizure a little more than a week ago. The seizure was NOT febrile. It

occured about 6 hours after receiving several vaccines. She tensed then went

limp. Her eyes were rolling around, it was like she wasn't " there " . She went

pale, then grey, then her feet were turning blue as the ambulance arrived.

(thank God they got there quickly) After a short stay in the PICU she is now

home and seems to be just fine.

I'm trying to do as much research as possible on vaccines and I'm just so

overwhelmed at how much " junk " I have been allowing to be put into my kids'

bodies.

Well, thanks for having me. I hope to learn alot and gain/give support here.

Illinois

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I also am located in Illinois and the religious exemption for schools is

available. It wasn't hard to write mine up (the school didn't have a

pre-exemption form as some health depts do). I am sure you are probably

considering not continuing with the vaxxes for the other children. there is no

law (that I am aware of) that states once you have started you must keep

vaccinating them for life as they will be " needing " boosters' and then all the

other wonderful vaccines they decide to mandate before your children are adults.

So, the school your children are in already have their shot record but from now

on you can claim an exemption.

Laurie

PS...maybe you can get a medical exemption for the youngest now but usually it

is only for the same type vaccine or say if your child had an egg allergy then

any vaccines with eggs, etc

Lauire

Hi Holly. I will not be vaccinating her at all for as long as possible. She

can get them as an adult if she likes. If I am forced to home school.......so be

it.

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Welcome . I'm so sorry to hear what happened to your precious baby.

How terrifying that must have been for you!

I am a former RN and know how scary it is to witness a seizure in a child.

It has to be so much worse when that child is your own though. I also know

how willing the medical industry is to turn a blind eye to obvious vaccine

reactions.

Before I knew better, I had my 2 children vaccinated. The last ones they

received were over 8 years ago. They've not had any since and are 16 and 17

now. (just checked and it's officially been 9 years since my ds had a vax,

and 10 years for my dd).

I wish I knew then what I know now, but that can't be changed. My eyes

were opened when our puppy had a reaction to one of his vaccines almost 7

years ago.

When I hear stories like yours, I am reminded that it's a game of Russian

Roulette with every shot a child receives.

If your pediatrician drags his feet about filing a report about the

reaction, you can do so yourself. You can find the details about that

here: http://www.medalerts.org/

Kay

Newbie Intro

> Hi, I'm new and just thought I should introduce myself. My name is .

> I'm a SAHM of 3 ages 10, 7 and 4 months. I'm here because my poor sweet 4

> month old dd had a seizure a little more than a week ago. The seizure was

> NOT febrile. It occured about 6 hours after receiving several vaccines.

> She tensed then went limp. Her eyes were rolling around, it was like she

> wasn't " there " . She went pale, then grey, then her feet were turning blue

> as the ambulance arrived. (thank God they got there quickly) After a short

> stay in the PICU she is now home and seems to be just fine.

>

> I'm trying to do as much research as possible on vaccines and I'm just so

> overwhelmed at how much " junk " I have been allowing to be put into my

> kids' bodies.

>

> Well, thanks for having me. I hope to learn alot and gain/give support

> here.

>

>

> Illinois

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome , I am also from Illinois, the Peoria area. Where are

you around?

There is alot to learn on the subject of vaccines, especially when you

are just coming from vaccinating faithfully and then having your eyes

opened up. This must have been very scary for you.

Thankfully, I was enlightened without having to go through something

drastic, but my son was vaxed up to 1 year before I started

researching. It took me awhile before I finally realized that no vax

is safe for anyone, including adults. Everything I have read or seen

since then has confirmed this. I can sit here and list all kinds of

facts for you, but it is probably best if you just jump right in and

continue to research. Doing searches on this group on past posts will

get you all kinds of info without even having to ask a question.

There is so much to learn.

Tara

[Guest guest]

Welcome to an awesome group of parents Ernielynn! The most important

step you can make for your child is one you've already taken--

parental education. Kudos to you as many parents don't take the time

you are taking. You will find the parents here are just like you and

your child is just like ours. Here you will be validated and

educated. It's just what every parent of a child on the autism

spectrum needs.

There have been some wonderful posts in the last few weeks. I

encourage you to go back in topics and review those of interest.

Many of your questions will be answered simply by doing that. No

question is silly here nor does it matter to us if we just discussed

it yesterday. You'll always find someone and most often more than

one who will respond.

Now that you know your son has Asperger's, you will find hope

through answers but you will also grieve many things. Be kind to

yourself when those moments come. They are normal feelings

Ernielynn. It's during these times when you will find the most

comfort here.

Blessings,

Kelley

>

> Hi,

> We live in the Richmond area of VA, orginally from NJ. We have 5

> blessings, 11, 10, 8, 4, 11 months.

> We have always scratched are heads regarding our oldest son,

something

> was definatly different about him. My husband is so anti meds that

I

> never looked into what could be wrong with him. Now it is so bad

we

> brought him to the dr and said pls test him, test his sugar,

something

> is wrong with him. So the dr asked me questions and determined to

him,

> unofficially, that it sounded like A.S.. After looking up on the

> internet I was shocked that the symptoms were just like what my

son was

> dealing with.

> now that we know, any words of advice of what we do now? how do we

help

> him? who do we see? how do we understand what he is thinking or

why he

> does what he does?

>

[Guest guest]

Get the diagnosis in writing would be my opinion, otherwise, you are just saying it; that has been our experience because even with an 'official' diagnosis, you still get to have the run around at school, etc. I would strongly recommend an educational evaluation (somewhere other than school, so you know the truth) and then get an IEP at school to meet those needs, learning issues, etc.

Psychiatrist for medication if you can get your husband to come around; professionals always put it to us like this, when our 13 year old was 7 and I was still saying no to meds; if your child was diabetic, and needed insulin, would you not give the insulin? DUH.... no brainer, of course we would give him the insulin, or he will die....then, why are you not giving meds to make his circuits connect? ADHD was the first diagnosis we had for him, and he has that proponent of Aspies for sure! We gave in, and what a difference, not a cure but a tool to help him focus; we have hence discovered it is really AS; he is also on Adderall (for ADHD), Risperdahl (mood stabilization / hyperness), Buspar (anxiety and ADHD), Lexapro (depression), and Propanolol (for migraine control---doesn't get them at all now--had 2-3 that made him ill / vomit / miss school and life! for 2-3 weeks straight, then a break of 1-3 weeks---for at least 2 years; ended with this med!)----.

Hope this helps....

Ruthie

( ) Newbie Intro

Hi, We live in the Richmond area of VA, orginally from NJ. We have 5 blessings, 11, 10, 8, 4, 11 months. We have always scratched are heads regarding our oldest son, something was definatly different about him. My husband is so anti meds that I never looked into what could be wrong with him. Now it is so bad we brought him to the dr and said pls test him, test his sugar, something is wrong with him. So the dr asked me questions and determined to him, unofficially, that it sounded like A.S.. After looking up on the internet I was shocked that the symptoms were just like what my son was dealing with.now that we know, any words of advice of what we do now? how do we help him? who do we see? how do we understand what he is thinking or why he does what he does?

[Guest guest]

Hi, We live in Southwest Florida and have an 11 year old son who is an Aspie also. We all know what you are going through-cause we're right there too! I suggest you do a google search for Aspergers support in the Richmond area (I just did it and found there is a wealth of support in your area). I would attend a meeting and get to know some people in your area that are dealing with the same issues. Support is so important and also potential friendships for your son. We all know how difficult it is for our children to relate to non Aspie kids. They want friends, but don't know how to relate. My son met a boy on vacation two summers ago that was also an Aspie and for the first time in his life he found another boy that he could play with and actually enjoy himself - they were on the same wavelength. You may also find in your area special

programs that deal with Autism and Autistic Spectrum issues. There is a wonderful book I just started reading last week, Hitchhiking through Asperger Syndrome by Pyle. The author is a mom to a young man who is an Aspie and gives great information concerning Asperger's and different things that have helped her son. She has great information on vitamin supplements, diet, etc. I encourage you to get a copy of this book. I personally have found it to be very helpful. Our son was diagnosed (by a child psychologist) 2 years ago as ADHD, but it was almost a year later before my son's neurologist introduced the term "Asperger's", but even then there was no explanation as to what that would entail. He only said our son had a "touch" of it. But the more I have read on my own I am finding that in my opinion he has more than just a touch. My son is on medication to help

with attention and impulsive behavior issues, but the usual meds had adverse reactions with him so he is actually taking Wellbutrin, which has a stimulant in it that does help some. We are going to start adding some vitamin supplements this week and see if that brings any positive results. From what I have read, there is some trial and error involved in adjusting diet and adding suuplements, since there is no magical formula that works for everyone. But we are more than willing to give anything a try. I am sure that you must feel a bit overwhelmed with all the information that you are sifting through, sometimes I feel as if I am working on the most important research project of my life. But the most important thing I urge you to do is to take some time for yourself. I'm sure with all your little blessings that is not an easy task, but you need to take some "calgon moments" for yourself each week so that you can

recharge and take things one day at a time. God bless, ernielynn <oriente7@...> wrote: Hi, We live in the Richmond area of VA, orginally from NJ. We have 5 blessings, 11, 10, 8, 4, 11 months. We have always scratched are heads regarding our oldest son, something was definatly different about him. My husband is so anti meds that I never looked into what could be wrong with him. Now it is so bad we

brought him to the dr and said pls test him, test his sugar, something is wrong with him. So the dr asked me questions and determined to him, unofficially, that it sounded like A.S.. After looking up on the internet I was shocked that the symptoms were just like what my son was dealing with.now that we know, any words of advice of what we do now? how do we help him? who do we see? how do we understand what he is thinking or why he does what he does?

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Ruthie, you posted: and Propanolol (for migraine control-- He gets migraines too? I know they hurt!!! So glad you found something that works for him. I get migraines that make me sick too. (sinus migraines). I just take advil and an ice pack behind my neck. Sometime, not often, my son will complain his head hurts. not often, but when he complaines that his head is hurting, I'm wondering if its a migraine. because he is such high tolence to pain. at the very high end of it. so for him to complain of a headach, it must really hurt. I'm sorry he had this painful migraine for 2 years and so glad he doesn't get them anymore. I'm gonna ask if they have that medication for adults. If so, I'm gonna try it. thanks for posting this. Does migraines run in your family? I just started getting them really bad as an adult for the past 3 years. I know my father had

suffered from them too. Rose RUTHIE BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123@...> wrote: Get the diagnosis in writing would be my opinion, otherwise, you are just saying it; that has been our experience because even with an 'official' diagnosis, you still get to have the run around at school, etc. I would strongly

recommend an educational evaluation (somewhere other than school, so you know the truth) and then get an IEP at school to meet those needs, learning issues, etc. Psychiatrist for medication if you can get your husband to come around; professionals always put it to us like this, when our 13 year old was 7 and I was still saying no to meds; if your child was diabetic, and needed insulin, would you not give the insulin? DUH.... no brainer, of course we would give him the insulin, or he will die....then, why are you not giving meds to make his circuits connect? ADHD was the first diagnosis we had for him, and he has that proponent of Aspies for sure! We gave in, and what a difference, not a cure but a tool to help him focus; we have hence discovered it is really AS; he is also on Adderall (for ADHD), Risperdahl (mood stabilization / hyperness), Buspar (anxiety and ADHD), Lexapro (depression), and Propanolol (for

migraine control---doesn't get them at all now--had 2-3 that made him ill / vomit / miss school and life! for 2-3 weeks straight, then a break of 1-3 weeks---for at least 2 years; ended with this med!)----. Hope this helps.... Ruthie ( ) Newbie Intro Hi, We live in the Richmond area

of VA, orginally from NJ. We have 5 blessings, 11, 10, 8, 4, 11 months. We have always scratched are heads regarding our oldest son, something was definatly different about him. My husband is so anti meds that I never looked into what could be wrong with him. Now it is so bad we brought him to the dr and said pls test him, test his sugar, something is wrong with him. So the dr asked me questions and determined to him, unofficially, that it sounded like A.S.. After looking up on the internet I was shocked that the symptoms were just like what my son was dealing with.now that we know, any words of advice of what we do now? how do we help him? who do we see? how do we understand what he is thinking or why he does what he does?

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Yes, Rose, my bio-mother (I was adopted at birth) gets them, so do I, and has since at least 4 years of age----and they make him vomit almost every time; medicated for 'depression', any other diagnosis OR NOT, he still gets them; I had called in the spring, the pediatrician to make and appointment to check him out again (MRI, whatever) but he was getting them ALL THE TIME--much more than he had been, and was medicated again for Depression and anxiety---we take 'vacations' from meds for a while--thinking he maybe does not need them---well, it was NOT that....

Nurse called back and said Dr. Sevening just wanted us to try that Propanolol for a few days and see; he has not had any vomiting migraines since starting it, and YES, adults can do this too. He takes 2 a day, 12 hours apart, and it is actually a blood pressure medication that they are finding works for migraine suffers. They are finding that, when you are going to get a migraine, your blood pressure elivates, and thus, the Propanolol regulates that. Sure it does not work for all but it is working for .

Kicker.....I am going to call for me, too....that's been six months and have I...no, so I still suffer and have headaches all the time that I treat myself (or try) but about five a year put me in bed for 1-4 days. So, I am going to call right now; really! But, it DOES WORK for .

My probably does have a high pain tolerance about big things but is ridiculous and attention seeking, too, so little things are often bad; he never lies about the migraines, and you know it is one!! He is white as a ghost pale, holding is heading, whining (all things I DO WHEN I HAVE ONE and I am an adult that has a huge tolerance for pain---I just think that is us WOMEN-----) trying NOT to get sick, etc. They do stink, though....but he is migraine free SO FAR!!!

PROPANOLOL is cheap, too (or, we think it is, especially compared to anything else we get).....the migraine pills are like $25 a piece (before insurance)----Propanolol is like $15 before insurance and costs us just about NOTHING! And, it is working for him.....

Ruthie

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Hi, We live in the Richmond area of VA, orginally from NJ. We have 5 blessings, 11, 10, 8, 4, 11 months. We have always scratched are heads regarding our oldest son, something was definatly different about him. My husband is so anti meds that I never looked into what could be wrong with him. Now it is so bad we brought him to the dr and said pls test him, test his sugar, something is wrong with him. So the dr asked me questions and determined to him, unofficially, that it sounded like A.S.. After looking up on the internet I was shocked that the symptoms were just like what my son was dealing with.now that we know, any words of advice of what we do now? how do we help him? who do we see? how do we understand what he is thinking or why he does what he does?

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HE GETS EVERYTHING ROSE----I am telling you!! Also, diabetes can play a role; teen years are horrible to keep diabetic stuff in control but my husband and I have become like 'diabetic educators' and seem to figure it out (MOST OF THE TIME)--if not, we call our very amazing diabetic educator to get it back on track----meds affect the blood sugar readings, too, and ....so, he IS a full-time job, I am telling ya!!!! That is why I do daycare and stay home; I mainly have before and after school kiddos right now, which is awesome for us----I have a full-time, brand new baby during the day, and she is currently sleeping; my four year old is doing his morning routine---got dressed, ate breakfast--now he is watching a move---then, I do my think with him! It is great!!! And, I am enjoying my 'baby'---four---last year at home.

Ruthie

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Hi, We live in the Richmond area of VA, orginally from NJ. We have 5 blessings, 11, 10, 8, 4, 11 months. We have always scratched are heads regarding our oldest son, something was definatly different about him. My husband is so anti meds that I never looked into what could be wrong with him. Now it is so bad we brought him to the dr and said pls test him, test his sugar, something is wrong with him. So the dr asked me questions and determined to him, unofficially, that it sounded like A.S.. After looking up on the internet I was shocked that the symptoms were just like what my son was dealing with.now that we know, any words of advice of what we do now? how do we help him? who do we see? how do we understand what he is thinking or why he does what he does?

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Ruthie, I'm so sorry you get these migraines. I know how bad they hurt. I'm so glad your baby doesn't get them anymore. When you get your migraines. do you get/start with the pain in the back of your neck? OMG!!! I do. I try to sleep with an ice pack behind my neck, 3 Advil's and vomiting every now and then. it can last days. it also drains me. ugh!!! Now you just taught me another thing. I didn't know migraines give us high blood pressure. When they hurt me so very bad, I go to the doctor and for some reason he gives me an antibiotic and it does relieve it. but, when he took my blood pressure, he said its high. but he's not worried about it because I have a migraine. I never put it together and figured the migraine will cause it. thanks for explaining this. And Let me know how you make out at the doctors? also, if that medication

works for you?. Do you know what causes your migraines? My doctor told me, If I eat Chinese food - that MSG will cause it. also, if I drink diet soda, the saccharine (sugar) will cause it. Well, I don't seem to find that true. I don't get them when I eat Chinese food. maybe a few weeks later. would think it will happen that same day. *smile* RoseRUTHIE BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123@...> wrote: Yes, Rose, my bio-mother (I was adopted at birth) gets them, so do I, and has since at least 4 years of age----and they make him vomit almost every time; medicated for 'depression', any other diagnosis OR NOT, he still gets them; I had called in the spring, the pediatrician to make and appointment to check him out again (MRI, whatever) but he was getting them ALL THE TIME--much more than he had been, and was medicated again for Depression and anxiety---we take 'vacations' from meds for a while--thinking he maybe does not need them---well, it was NOT that.... Nurse called back and said Dr. Sevening just wanted us to try that Propanolol for a few days and see; he has not had any vomiting migraines since starting it, and YES, adults can do this too. He takes 2 a day, 12 hours apart, and it is actually a blood pressure medication that they are finding works for migraine suffers. They

are finding that, when you are going to get a migraine, your blood pressure elivates, and thus, the Propanolol regulates that. Sure it does not work for all but it is working for . Kicker.....I am going to call for me, too....that's been six months and have I...no, so I still suffer and have headaches all the time that I treat myself (or try) but about five a year put me in bed for 1-4 days. So, I am going to call right now; really! But, it DOES WORK for . My probably does have a high pain tolerance about big things but is ridiculous and attention seeking, too, so little things are often bad; he never lies about the migraines, and you know it is one!! He is white as a ghost pale, holding is heading, whining (all things I DO WHEN I HAVE ONE and I am an adult that has a huge tolerance for pain---I just think that is us WOMEN-----) trying NOT to get sick,

etc. They do stink, though....but he is migraine free SO FAR!!! PROPANOLOL is cheap, too (or, we think it is, especially compared to anything else we get).....the migraine pills are like $25 a piece (before insurance)----Propanolol is like $15 before insurance and costs us just about NOTHING! And, it is working for him..... Ruthie ( ) Newbie Intro Hi, We live in the Richmond area of VA, orginally from NJ. We have 5 blessings, 11, 10, 8, 4, 11 months. We have always scratched are heads regarding our oldest son, something was definatly different about him. My

husband is so anti meds that I never looked into what could be wrong with him. Now it is so bad we brought him to the dr and said pls test him, test his sugar, something is wrong with him. So the dr asked me questions and determined to him, unofficially, that it sounded like A.S.. After looking up on the internet I was shocked that the symptoms were just like what my son was dealing with.now that we know, any words of advice of what we do now? how do we help him? who do we see? how do we understand what he is thinking or why he does what he does? Catch up on fall's hot new shows on

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Ruthie, I don't think I could ever keep up with you. I can't believe some post I read and how wonderful the moms handle everything. They have everything so organized from meds to special diets to everything they posted. I don't think I could do half of what you all do. hugs to all you moms!!!! RoseRUTHIE BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123@...> wrote: HE GETS EVERYTHING

ROSE----I am telling you!! Also, diabetes can play a role; teen years are horrible to keep diabetic stuff in control but my husband and I have become like 'diabetic educators' and seem to figure it out (MOST OF THE TIME)--if not, we call our very amazing diabetic educator to get it back on track----meds affect the blood sugar readings, too, and ....so, he IS a full-time job, I am telling ya!!!! That is why I do daycare and stay home; I mainly have before and after school kiddos right now, which is awesome for us----I have a full-time, brand new baby during the day, and she is currently sleeping; my four year old is doing his morning routine---got dressed, ate breakfast--now he is watching a move---then, I do my think with him! It is great!!! And, I am enjoying my 'baby'---four---last year at home. Ruthie ----- Original

Message ----- From: Rose Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Newbie Intro Ruthie, you posted: and Propanolol (for migraine control-- He gets migraines too? I know they hurt!!! So glad you found something that works for him. I get migraines that make me sick too. (sinus migraines). I just take advil and an ice pack behind my neck. Sometime, not often, my son will complain his head hurts. not often, but when he

complaines that his head is hurting, I'm wondering if its a migraine. because he is such high tolence to pain. at the very high end of it. so for him to complain of a headach, it must really hurt. I'm sorry he had this painful migraine for 2 years and so glad he doesn't get them anymore. I'm gonna ask if they have that medication for adults. If so, I'm gonna try it. thanks for posting this. Does migraines run in your family? I just started getting them really bad as an adult for the past 3 years. I know my father had suffered from them too. Rose RUTHIE BRYAN DOLEZAL <DOLEZAL123msn> wrote: Get the diagnosis in writing would be my opinion, otherwise, you are just saying it; that has been our experience because even with an 'official' diagnosis, you still get to have the run around at school, etc. I would strongly recommend an educational evaluation (somewhere other than school, so you know the truth) and then get an IEP at school to meet those needs, learning issues, etc. Psychiatrist for medication if you can get your husband to come around; professionals always put it to us like this, when our 13 year old was 7 and I was still saying no to meds; if your child was diabetic, and needed insulin, would you not give the insulin? DUH.... no brainer, of course we would give him the insulin, or he will die....then, why are you not giving meds to make his circuits connect? ADHD was the first diagnosis we had for him, and he has that proponent of Aspies

for sure! We gave in, and what a difference, not a cure but a tool to help him focus; we have hence discovered it is really AS; he is also on Adderall (for ADHD), Risperdahl (mood stabilization / hyperness), Buspar (anxiety and ADHD), Lexapro (depression), and Propanolol (for migraine control---doesn't get them at all now--had 2-3 that made him ill / vomit / miss school and life! for 2-3 weeks straight, then a break of 1-3 weeks---for at least 2 years; ended with this med!)----. Hope this helps.... Ruthie ( ) Newbie Intro Hi, We live in the Richmond area of VA, orginally from NJ. We have 5 blessings, 11, 10, 8, 4, 11 months. We have always scratched are heads regarding our oldest son, something was definatly different about him. My husband is so anti meds that I never looked into what could be wrong with him. Now it is so bad we brought him to the dr and said pls test him, test his sugar, something is wrong with him. So the dr asked me questions and determined to him, unofficially, that it sounded like A.S.. After looking up on the internet I was shocked that the symptoms were just like what my son was dealing with.now that we know, any

words of advice of what we do now? how do we help him? who do we see? how do we understand what he is thinking or why he does what he does? Catch up on fall's hot new shows on TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!

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I think your problem might be with the doses--why are you only on 30mg Armour? Therapeutic dose is usually 180--300mg Armour. With all your health problems you willl want to take ENOUGH Iodoral--don't be scared of it. you might need a more therapeutic dose of HC too.

Gracia

Hello--Ten years ago I was diagnosed with severe anemia and they still don't really know why. I know for certain I've got Hashimoto's, Sjogrens, out of whack hormones, possibly lupus. And I also know I'm still exhausted.After reading through all the thyroid and adrenal and hormone forums I've found myself here trying to get all the pieces of the puzzle on the table. My first question is..... is there some other piece I need to consider? I apologize for the vagueness of the question, but each time one issue has been addressed ( iron or horomones or thyroid or whatever) I thought the doc was getting to the core issue. No one was considering the interplay of all the systems and treating them in tandem. I've had to do most of this on my own which only adds to the fatigue and frustration. Pituitary? Currently I'm on topical HC, armour 30mg, celtic sea salt 2xperday, selenium, other vitamins and minerals etc, iron, topical progesterone...........I've been nervous about starting iodine because of the Hashimoto's, but after reading think I should give it a try. Am I correct that there's still conflicting opinions about this? I had tried a kelp supplement for a while, which didn't seem to help. Should I try the iodoral? If I go slowly it seems it can't hurt, right? How long of a trial period is suggested? All input or ideas welcome--ty---Heidi

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Hello--Ten years ago I was diagnosed with severe anemia and they still don't really know why. I know for certain I've got Hashimoto's, Sjogrens, out of whack hormones, possibly lupus. And I also know I'm still exhausted.After reading through all the thyroid and adrenal and hormone forums I've found myself here trying to get all the pieces of the puzzle on the table. My first question is..... is there some other piece I need to consider? I apologize for the vagueness of the question, but each time one issue has been addressed ( iron or horomones or thyroid or whatever) I thought the doc was getting to the core issue. No one was considering the interplay of all the systems and treating them in tandem. I've had to do most of this on my own which only adds to the fatigue and frustration. Pituitary? <snip> Heidi Heidi, I would strongly consider evaluation for Celiac

disease/gluten intolerance. Many people with gluten allergies have an increased rates of other autoimmune conditions, including thyroid problems, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, diabetes, etc. An excellent read on this is "Dangerous Grains," by Dr. Braly, or "Celiac Disease: A Hidden Epidemic, by Dr. Green. Often persons with Celiac have intestinal damage and malabsorption issues, which can lead to anemia. They also have tissue damage in other organs, even in neural tissue. Something to consider investigating. HTH Rebekah

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Hi Gracia--

I've only been on armour for three weeks. My doc started me at 15 which didn't

help at

all, so I upped it. I need to speak w/ her or change docs cos her knowledge of

armour is

low.

By a more therapeutic dose of HC....do you mean cortef?.... or just more? Right

now I'm

using 20mg of hc cream dosed 4 times.

I want to start the iodoral, but am I right-- I need to start low and move up

slowly? Like a

quarter of a pill? And I will probably have some negative side effects, but

those can be

ameliorated w/ the salt?

Thank you!

Heidi

>

>

> I think your problem might be with the doses--why are you only on 30mg

Armour?

Therapeutic dose is usually 180--300mg Armour. With all your health problems

you willl

want to take ENOUGH Iodoral--don't be scared of it. you might need a more

therapeutic

dose of HC too.

> Gracia

>