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Grace,

Your right on here. The optimal sweetner for most people is plain old

unbleached sugar. It is the control of the amount per day that is

important.

Mark

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Call me old fashioned, but I like to use regular store bough granulated

sugar. My family has been using it for many many years and they've been

doing just fine. Only the ones who've changed to equal or other types

of sugar have been having problems so I'm sticking to my regular sugar

and that's that.

I find that everytime they come out with a different more improved type

of sugar that's supposed to be better for you, turns out to be the worst

thing you could put into your body and eventually is taken off the

shelves, but not so with reguard old fashioned granulated sugar, but

this is just my opinion.

Grace

angel_lts@... wrote:

Stevia how safe is it? I am always afraid to start new things, afraid

of a seizure will happen. I would not take aspertame, equal... because

they are toxic....

But very cautious of stevia, but have not found anything bad about it.

I would like to buy it. How do I buy it(powder, liquid) and where do I

buy? How expensive? ANd is there a table of the diffence for usage for

regular sugar and stevia, in case I am going to bake with it??

Thanks

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No, all brands are not the same. You have to look at the ingredients list some

of them add maltodextrin, fructose, sucrose or lactose. If you get the kind

that is green that is supposed to be just the stevia leaves crushed up. I

believe Stevia Plus makes one, but also make one with lactose.

Todd

angelreceiver <behealthy8@...> wrote:

Are all brands of Stevia basically the same? I know it can be

bitter but is that just the nature of it or does it have to do with

what brand you get? Is there an amount of consumption of this that

you shouldn't go over per day?

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wrote:> Are all brands of Stevia basically the same? I know

>it can be bitter but is that just the nature of it or does it have

>to do with what brand you get? Is there an amount of consumption of

>this that you shouldn't go over per day?

Todd is correct about not all brands being equal. I buy green raw

stevia from the bulk glass jar containers at my health food store.

It has no additives and is the least expensive.

Bee

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Jeanne,

Do you have a link for the NOW stevia? It is best not to have any

Splenda at all.

Bee

> I have switched over to stevia with only occasional use of

splenda. I can handle the Stevia from NOW which is in a water and

alcohol base. Is that going to be an issue with candida? I have some

ground green leaf stevia but I cough and sneeze from just inhaling

it. I have some ragweed, grass, and other allergies and that is the

reaction I am getting lately from the ground stevia leaf.

> Any comments or suggestions?

> Jeanne

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Mark,

I use Stevia in 's distilled water....only thing he drinks.

What are the problems with FDA?? Not that I trust anything they

say...but knowledge is still power here. Should I be concerned with

's intake of Stevia?

Zevnik

> Stevia is an herbal sweetner....10-15 times the sweetening power of

> sugar...comes from your part of the world....FDA problems,

probably because

> of the food industry, but available here. Some good websites on

Stevia ,

> what it is, the hx etc. how much do you want to know? Apparently

used for

> years, and no toxicity reported by most. Recommended by some, like

Mercola

> to be better and safer than others, like aspertame, splenda if you

need the

> taste of sweetness. Comes powdered, or liquid..used in cooking

and baking

> wihout losing it's sweetness..licorice aftertaste....has

phytonutrients in

> it...lots of problems with FDA on this one...but allowed for import

and sold

> widely here.....even being used in diet Coke.

>

> Mark

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I've read (on the science in the public interest website, a while back) that

stevia causes cancer in lab rats, when ingested in large amounts. Also, the SCD

diet guru, Elaine Gottchalk, says it's structurally similar to steroids and, if

I remember right, can cause some sort of genetic damage... Sorry, I'm a little

foggy on the details, but it's definately something to further research

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Mark,

I use Stevia in 's distilled water....only thing he drinks.

What are the problems with FDA?? Not that I trust anything they

say...but knowledge is still power here. Should I be concerned with

's intake of Stevia?

Zevnik

> Stevia is an herbal sweetner....10-15 times the sweetening power of

> sugar...comes from your part of the world....FDA problems,

probably because

> of the food industry, but available here. Some good websites on

Stevia ,

> what it is, the hx etc. how much do you want to know? Apparently

used for

> years, and no toxicity reported by most. Recommended by some, like

Mercola

> to be better and safer than others, like aspertame, splenda if you

need the

> taste of sweetness. Comes powdered, or liquid..used in cooking

and baking

> wihout losing it's sweetness..licorice aftertaste....has

phytonutrients in

> it...lots of problems with FDA on this one...but allowed for import

and sold

> widely here.....even being used in diet Coke.

>

> Mark

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Thanks for your thoughts. I wondered if this could be used as a sweetener

in supplements in place of other ones used. I have read negative things

about sucralose in the past and this is why I personally stopped using

Liquid SNT with P5P. So many things to be concerned with when it comes to

your kids......

Jackie---

> Stevia is an herbal sweetner....10-15 times the sweetening power of

> sugar...comes from your part of the world....FDA problems, probably

> because

> of the food industry, but available here. Some good websites on Stevia

> ,

> what it is, the hx etc. how much do you want to know? Apparently used

> for

> years, and no toxicity reported by most. Recommended by some, like Mercola

> to be better and safer than others, like aspertame, splenda if you need

> the

> taste of sweetness. Comes powdered, or liquid..used in cooking and

> baking

> wihout losing it's sweetness..licorice aftertaste....has phytonutrients in

> it...lots of problems with FDA on this one...but allowed for import and

> sold

> widely here.....even being used in diet Coke.

>

> Mark

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A warning about stevia. Before you use any brand, get them to show you

their toxicological report on it as there have been stevia batches with

measureable amounts of heavy metals and pesticide residues. It is not as

innocuous as some would lead you to belive. Kirkman's research into the

safety of sucralose is more in-depth than you could imagine and I have done

the same. It is not like aspartame and it is not neurotoxic as mercola.com

(who sells stevia) would lead you to belive. Having said this I am

dimetrically opposed to Splenda which contains bulking agents like dextrose

which I feel are neurotoxic to a degree.

Mark Schauss

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Thanks for your thoughts. I wondered if this could be used as a sweetener

in supplements in place of other ones used. I have read negative things

about sucralose in the past and this is why I personally stopped using

Liquid SNT with P5P. So many things to be concerned with when it comes to

your kids......

Jackie---

> Stevia is an herbal sweetner....10-15 times the sweetening power of

> sugar...comes from your part of the world....FDA problems, probably

> because

> of the food industry, but available here. Some good websites on Stevia

> ,

> what it is, the hx etc. how much do you want to know? Apparently used

> for

> years, and no toxicity reported by most. Recommended by some, like Mercola

> to be better and safer than others, like aspertame, splenda if you need

> the

> taste of sweetness. Comes powdered, or liquid..used in cooking and

> baking

> wihout losing it's sweetness..licorice aftertaste....has phytonutrients in

> it...lots of problems with FDA on this one...but allowed for import and

> sold

> widely here.....even being used in diet Coke.

>

> Mark

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Thank you for the clarification on this.....Jackie

>A warning about stevia. Before you use any brand, get them to show you

> their toxicological report on it as there have been stevia batches with

> measureable amounts of heavy metals and pesticide residues. It is not as

> innocuous as some would lead you to belive. Kirkman's research into the

> safety of sucralose is more in-depth than you could imagine and I have

> done

> the same. It is not like aspartame and it is not neurotoxic as

> mercola.com

> (who sells stevia) would lead you to belive. Having said this I am

> dimetrically opposed to Splenda which contains bulking agents like

> dextrose

> which I feel are neurotoxic to a degree.

>

> Mark Schauss

>

> Re: [ ] Stevia

>

>

> Thanks for your thoughts. I wondered if this could be used as a sweetener

> in supplements in place of other ones used. I have read negative things

> about sucralose in the past and this is why I personally stopped using

> Liquid SNT with P5P. So many things to be concerned with when it comes to

> your kids......

>

> Jackie---

>

>

>

>> Stevia is an herbal sweetner....10-15 times the sweetening power of

>> sugar...comes from your part of the world....FDA problems, probably

>> because

>> of the food industry, but available here. Some good websites on Stevia

>> ,

>> what it is, the hx etc. how much do you want to know? Apparently used

>> for

>> years, and no toxicity reported by most. Recommended by some, like

>> Mercola

>> to be better and safer than others, like aspertame, splenda if you need

>> the

>> taste of sweetness. Comes powdered, or liquid..used in cooking and

>> baking

>> wihout losing it's sweetness..licorice aftertaste....has phytonutrients

>> in

>> it...lots of problems with FDA on this one...but allowed for import and

>> sold

>> widely here.....even being used in diet Coke.

>>

>> Mark

>

>

>

>

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Mark Can I foward this post to a friend? Thanks

Mark Schauss <schauss@...> wrote:A warning about stevia. Before you

use any brand, get them to show you

their toxicological report on it as there have been stevia batches with

measureable amounts of heavy metals and pesticide residues. It is not as

innocuous as some would lead you to belive. Kirkman's research into the

safety of sucralose is more in-depth than you could imagine and I have done

the same. It is not like aspartame and it is not neurotoxic as mercola.com

(who sells stevia) would lead you to belive. Having said this I am

dimetrically opposed to Splenda which contains bulking agents like dextrose

which I feel are neurotoxic to a degree.

Mark Schauss

Re: [ ] Stevia

Thanks for your thoughts. I wondered if this could be used as a sweetener

in supplements in place of other ones used. I have read negative things

about sucralose in the past and this is why I personally stopped using

Liquid SNT with P5P. So many things to be concerned with when it comes to

your kids......

Jackie---

> Stevia is an herbal sweetner....10-15 times the sweetening power of

> sugar...comes from your part of the world....FDA problems, probably

> because

> of the food industry, but available here. Some good websites on Stevia

> ,

> what it is, the hx etc. how much do you want to know? Apparently used

> for

> years, and no toxicity reported by most. Recommended by some, like Mercola

> to be better and safer than others, like aspertame, splenda if you need

> the

> taste of sweetness. Comes powdered, or liquid..used in cooking and

> baking

> wihout losing it's sweetness..licorice aftertaste....has phytonutrients in

> it...lots of problems with FDA on this one...but allowed for import and

> sold

> widely here.....even being used in diet Coke.

>

> Mark

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Certainly.

Re: [ ] Stevia

Thanks for your thoughts. I wondered if this could be used as a sweetener

in supplements in place of other ones used. I have read negative things

about sucralose in the past and this is why I personally stopped using

Liquid SNT with P5P. So many things to be concerned with when it comes to

your kids......

Jackie---

> Stevia is an herbal sweetner....10-15 times the sweetening power of

> sugar...comes from your part of the world....FDA problems, probably

> because

> of the food industry, but available here. Some good websites on Stevia

> ,

> what it is, the hx etc. how much do you want to know? Apparently used

> for

> years, and no toxicity reported by most. Recommended by some, like Mercola

> to be better and safer than others, like aspertame, splenda if you need

> the

> taste of sweetness. Comes powdered, or liquid..used in cooking and

> baking

> wihout losing it's sweetness..licorice aftertaste....has phytonutrients in

> it...lots of problems with FDA on this one...but allowed for import and

> sold

> widely here.....even being used in diet Coke.

>

> Mark

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How much are you using?? I find it necessary to only use about 1/16th of a

tsp in my coffee, much more then that and it's too sweet. You should mostly

be drinking water every day. I am only drinking one cup decaf, but even that

I want to eliminate.

-- Stevia

I'm wondering if anyone has had actual bad experiences

with stevia. I'm not sure if I OD on it with my

drinks-teas, coffee, if I can actually get sick?

See my own websites at www.lauralight.faithweb.com or www.henrycreations.com

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Look up 'stevia overdose' on the net and maybe something will come up...i

personally only use the tip of the teaspoon and thats sweet enough..its 200

times sweeter than sugar..eek!

I use it in my kefir grains as they are naturally bitter...it does help.

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Dear Val,

There are more pure stevia extracts available without fruit extracts in

them. I haven't had time to put together a list of good brands of

stevia, but many people in our group can probably help you.

I use stevia powder, which is just ground up stevia leaf. It is

green. I buy it at my health store from the bulk bins/jars.

You can also grow your own stevia plant.

Bee

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Hi Bee,

Can you tell me a little more about growing your own stevia plant.

This intrigues me. Where can you buy the seeds - supplier to the

United Kingdom preferably? Also what sort of conditions does the plant

need? And do you have to dry the leaves before grinding them up?

Val

>

> You can also grow your own stevia plant.

>

> Bee

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Hi Val,

I do not grow my own stevia. I buy ground up leaves at my health store

from the bulk-buy jars.

Bee

> Hi Bee,

>

> Can you tell me a little more about growing your own stevia plant.

> This intrigues me. Where can you buy the seeds - supplier to the

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What's the URL for ordering it? Please do tell us. I can't buy 100% stevia

in any form around here.

Caroline

From: <jeannekrieg@...>

>I think the ground green leaf stevia from WFN is a fabulous deal...

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it is www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com. I buy the green powdered and it is

$9.70 per pound. It lasts a long time and I use it every day. I make my own

water based concentrate too. 1 tsp stevia to 3 TBP of water. You can steep it

in alcohol to and make a liquid concentrate but I try to stay away from alcohol

as it kicks up the candida.

Jeanne otn

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Okay...many thx for this link.

Caroline

From: <jeannekrieg@...>

> it is www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com. I buy the green powdered and it

> is $9.70 per pound. It lasts a long time and I use it every day. I make

> my own water based concentrate too. 1 tsp stevia to 3 TBP of water. You

> can steep it in alcohol to and make a liquid concentrate but I try to stay

> away from alcohol as it kicks up the candida.

> Jeanne otn

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Many stevia powders are " cut " with maltodextrin, which can be wheat

or corn based. That seems a much more likely possible allergen than

the pure stevia. Having said that, it is my experience that someone

can be allergic to ANYTHING.

On Nov 28, 2005, at 4:12 PM, kennetheriklucy wrote:

> Has anyone ever heard of a child having an allergic reaction to stevia

> powder?

>

>

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Maltodextrin is also a key word for a derivative of MSG. See

www.truthinlabeling.com<http://www.truthinlabeling.com/> - they have a list of

secret ingredients labeled as " safe " ..

Kathy

Re: stevia

Many stevia powders are " cut " with maltodextrin, which can be wheat

or corn based. That seems a much more likely possible allergen than

the pure stevia. Having said that, it is my experience that someone

can be allergic to ANYTHING.

On Nov 28, 2005, at 4:12 PM, kennetheriklucy wrote:

> Has anyone ever heard of a child having an allergic reaction to stevia

> powder?

>

>

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What about protease enzymes and anything enzymes in this list? There

must be something I'm missing here--I hope.

Jean

On Nov 28, 2005, at 7:28 PM, JAMES BLANCO wrote:

> Maltodextrin is also a key word for a derivative of MSG. See

> www.truthinlabeling.com<http://www.truthinlabeling.com/> - they

> have a list of secret ingredients labeled as " safe " ..

>

> Kathy

> Re: stevia

>

>

> Many stevia powders are " cut " with maltodextrin, which can be wheat

> or corn based. That seems a much more likely possible allergen than

> the pure stevia. Having said that, it is my experience that someone

> can be allergic to ANYTHING.

>

>

>

> On Nov 28, 2005, at 4:12 PM, kennetheriklucy wrote:

>

> > Has anyone ever heard of a child having an allergic reaction to

> stevia

> > powder?

> >

> >

>

>

>

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Make sure it is not stevia " plus " - that includes a lot of added

fiber, which can have a significant laxative effect.

Amy

>

> Has anyone ever heard of a child having an allergic reaction to

stevia

> powder?

>

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It comes in a green packet that says Sweet Leaf Stevia Plus. It is a

> white powder. Is this the one that was banned? Why is it bad for us

> when it says 100% natural. I have been on this since last summer.

> Please advise.

Hi Faith,

Stevia Plus has FOS in it. FOS is not good to take. There is an

article in the files about it.

Lots of things that are " 100% Natural " are bad for us....Sugar for

instance. :o)

Just because something is " natural " does not make it " ok " .

jackie

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