Guest guest Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Placing a balloon in your jugular vein is risky,...the risks are not just with surgery,...there is rejection, allergic response, and how long does that balloon last? 20 years from now how will your balloon be doing? How much does it cost? And yes, sometimes it is performed under general anasthesia,...does it rid the arterial plaque, does it repair the damaged vein? No! It simply opens up the vein. The insertion site can bleed, it can inflame and requires a pressure dressing. Also, changes in blood pressure can be a complication. Can pieces of the plaque break off and lodge in your lungs, can plateletts aggregate at the edges of the balloon and cause a clot? Gees! 30 days of chelation seems like a logical first step before you hop on a plane, pay for this proceedure, and then hope there are no long term implications to this new technique for this kind of stenosis. Logic and common sense must prevail in this particular case because you can't reverse the proceedure once you puncture the vein. Bret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2010 Report Share Posted July 2, 2010 Hi again Bret You said 'how long does the balloon last?' - the balloon isn't left in your vein. There are places which insert stents....I wouldn't personally have THAT done for me. The cost is different depending on country and what your personal specific treatment is. You say that sometimes it is under general anaesthetic....not from any of the reports I've read, but I don't doubt that some doctors for some cases might do that - but it isn't the majority of cases. You've asked 'can pieces of a plaque break off and lodge in your lungs?' - I'm not sure what you mean by 'plaque'. Are we talking about the same procedure? I'm talking about the CCSVI procedure. If we're discussing two different things then we're discussing at cross purposes. People are prescribed blood-thinning medication which they must take for a year or two after the CCSVI procedure to minimise the risk of clots. As I said, every 'surgery' is a 'risk' - the CCSVI procedure (if you don't have other conditions which might impact on the procedure's safety) is thought to be relatively 'safe'. At the end of the day, it is always best to do enough research to see whether this is a procedure you would be happy to go with. It will be a personal decision for people - each individual should do their own research into every aspect of the procedure, talk to their operating surgeon regarding possible complications, their current medications etc etc - I'm sure that most people are smart enough to make an educated decision on it. 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) To: mscured From: patientadvocate2@... Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:48:48 +0000 Subject: balloon arthroplasty Placing a balloon in your jugular vein is risky,...the risks are not just with surgery,...there is rejection, allergic response, and how long does that balloon last? 20 years from now how will your balloon be doing? How much does it cost? And yes, sometimes it is performed under general anasthesia,...does it rid the arterial plaque, does it repair the damaged vein? No! It simply opens up the vein. The insertion site can bleed, it can inflame and requires a pressure dressing. _________________________________________________________________ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2010 Report Share Posted July 3, 2010 Bret, It is a balloon venoplasty that we are talking about with ccsvi. It is done with local anesthesia, in fact that is one of the difficulties they are faced with to try and do blind studies where some patients would receive sham procedures. The patient needs to be awake. It is not considered surgery, it is a minimally invasive percutaneous procedure. The blockages aren't caused by a build up of gunk in the veins like is typical with arterial blockages where chelation works so well. These are mechanical type problems--twisted, kinked, perhaps also pressure from a bone. Depending on the severity of the blockage, supplements/chelation could possibly be of benefit. If it is only partially blocked, then thinning the blood a bit could ameliorate symptoms to some degree but it can't unkink a vein and restore full blood flow In most cases patients that have only been treated with a balloon(no stent) only use a blood thinner or anti-clotting medication for a short while--those with stents require longer. Some patients simply take baby aspirin for a time. It does vary by doctor. You ask how long the balloon lasts. Well that is the issue--it doesn't remain in the body. They use it to stretch the twisted blocked vein open and then remove it. Consequently a certain percentage of patients restenose (veins collapse again) later--perhaps 6 months later, perhaps a year, perhaps never. Some veins refuse to remain open immediately. This is why there is discussion about stents. They are mesh tubes that are inserted in the vein to hold the vein open. I think in a star trek universe this would be the way to go. Now, it is problematic, there are many questions including stent longevity---some of us are young, will they perform for 50 years? Can they handle the torque and twisting of neck placement? I think this has to be decided individually depending upon the location of the blockage--in the azygous, protected by a bone could be ok. But this is discussed ahead of time with the doctor and again if it comes up during the procedure---you are awake and coherent. .. > > > Hi again Bret > > You said 'how long does the balloon last?' - the balloon isn't left in your vein. > > There are places which insert stents....I wouldn't personally have THAT done for me. > > > > The cost is different depending on country and what your personal specific treatment is. > > > > You say that sometimes it is under general anaesthetic....not from any > of the reports I've read, but I don't doubt that some doctors for some cases might do that - but it isn't the majority of cases. > > > > You've asked 'can pieces of a plaque break off and lodge in your lungs?' - I'm not sure what you mean by 'plaque'. > > > > Are we talking about the same procedure? I'm talking about the CCSVI procedure. If we're discussing two different things then we're discussing at cross purposes. > > > > People are prescribed blood-thinning medication which they must take for a year or two after the CCSVI procedure to minimise the risk of clots. > > > > As I said, every 'surgery' is a 'risk' - the CCSVI procedure (if you don't have other conditions which might impact on the procedure's safety) is thought to be relatively 'safe'. > > > > At the end of the day, it is always best to do enough research to see whether this is a procedure you would be happy to go with. It will be a personal decision for people - each individual should do their own research into every aspect of the procedure, talk to their operating surgeon regarding possible complications, their current medications etc etc - I'm sure that most people are smart enough to make an educated decision on it. > > > > > 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' > MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) > > > > > > > To: mscured > From: patientadvocate2@... > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 12:48:48 +0000 > Subject: balloon arthroplasty > > > > > > Placing a balloon in your jugular vein is risky,...the risks are not just with surgery,...there is rejection, allergic response, and how long does that balloon last? 20 years from now how will your balloon be doing? How much does it cost? And yes, sometimes it is performed under general anasthesia,...does it rid the arterial plaque, does it repair the damaged vein? No! It simply opens up the vein. The insertion site can bleed, it can inflame and requires a pressure dressing. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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