Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 gets that. It has to do with his Achilles tendon getting inflamed from his spondy. It could be something separate but for it is definitely arthritis related. Hope this helps, Michele ( 20, spondy) ________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of toivonen4 Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:38 AM Subject: Heel pain I am just curious about heel pain related to arthritis. Grant has had very minimal joint pain throughout all this. Lately though he has complained of heel pain usually when he is being active like playing basketball or just running around. It is only his rt heel and that is the same ankle that has been inflamed. Has anyone experienced this? I guess I'm just wondering if this is related to the arthritis or is it something separate? When I search on the internet for heel pain plantar fascitis comes up but it doesn't seem like it is that because the pain only happens while is is on it and playing hard. & Grant/10, PsA/Uveitis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 I would also think it's the Achilles tendon.... which can be VERY painful... On Dec 7, 2007 7:51 AM, Tepper, Michele <MTepper@...> wrote: > gets that. It has to do with his Achilles tendon getting inflamed > from his spondy. It could be something separate but for it is > definitely arthritis related. Hope this helps, Michele ( 20, > spondy) > > ________________________________ > > From: < %40> [mailto: > < %40>] On > Behalf Of toivonen4 > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:38 AM > < %40> > Subject: Heel pain > > I am just curious about heel pain related to arthritis. Grant has had > very minimal joint pain throughout all this. Lately though he has > complained of heel pain usually when he is being active like playing > basketball or just running around. It is only his rt heel and that is > the same ankle that has been inflamed. Has anyone experienced this? > I guess I'm just wondering if this is related to the arthritis or is > it something separate? When I search on the internet for heel pain > plantar fascitis comes up but it doesn't seem like it is that because > the pain only happens while is is on it and playing hard. > > & Grant/10, PsA/Uveitis > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 -There is also enthesitis arhtritis. Where the tendons and ligaments attach to the bone and get inflammed. I beleive there are attachement areas either side of the back of the heel. Just an idea. hugs Helen and (10,systemic) -- In , Arthurnator@... wrote: > > > Since PsA is in theSpondyloarthropathies and PsA can cause swollen tendons it > sounds like you have your answer.I take it that this is something new for > Grant so definately worth mentioning it to the rheumy. > Becki and 9 systemic </HTML> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Hi and Grant has the same issues with her heels and it causes her to limp alot too.... there are a group of tendons that attach in the heel and the problems occur just bang in the centre of the heel for her. She has had her feet moulded and we go to get her shoe inserts next week. I reccomend you take him to a podiatrist... i had to fight to be referred to one... She wears good fitting school shoes with her uniform and trainers the rest of the time to support her feet. I have always had her feet measured and shoes properly fitted. has Enthesitis Related and Psoriatic Arthritis and the heel pain is standard it seems for these kids... a foot spa should help a bit as well. The pain comes from the tendon ends (enthesitic points)becoming inflammed. There are a few of these tendon ends holding onto the heel hence the pain. If i can help in any way.... i have been walking the Arthritis road for 10 months now. and Enthesitis Related Arthritis and Psoriatic Arthritis HLA B27+ West of Scotland --------------------------------- Sent from & #45; a smarter inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Thanks everyone for the info. I better check with our ped rheumy. I've never heard of enthesitis before! I'm interested in the inserts for . What is the purpose of those? To take pressure off of the heel so she can walk without a limp? Grant also will walk with a limp after he is done playing basketball and just for a few hours until it feels better, his pain seems to be in the middle of the heel too. & Grant/10 ,PsA/Uveitis > > Hi and Grant > > has the same issues with her heels and it causes her to limp alot too.... there are a group of tendons that attach in the heel and the problems occur just bang in the centre of the heel for her. She has had her feet moulded and we go to get her shoe inserts next week. I reccomend you take him to a podiatrist... i had to fight to be referred to one... She wears good fitting school shoes with her uniform and trainers the rest of the time to support her feet. I have always had her feet measured and shoes properly fitted. > > has Enthesitis Related and Psoriatic Arthritis and the heel pain is standard it seems for these kids... a foot spa should help a bit as well. The pain comes from the tendon ends (enthesitic points)becoming inflammed. There are a few of these tendon ends holding onto the heel hence the pain. > > If i can help in any way.... i have been walking the Arthritis road for 10 months now. > > and > Enthesitis Related Arthritis and Psoriatic Arthritis HLA B27+ > West of Scotland > > > --------------------------------- > Sent from & #45; a smarter inbox. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Hi and Grant s Enthesitis affects weird places. Not just her main joints.... It has affected her rib cage so she gets chest pains, halfway along a bone literally anywhere there are tendon ends. Her head, her shins. you name it she gets it. She doesnt get fevers or rashes, her joints never go red but they do go a mottled colour if there is activity. She also doesnt get hot joints. The testing for the HLA B27+ gene is an indicator of Enthesitis. Enthesitis is according to her Ped Rhuemy the most painful of the arthritic conditions. She is now in remission but has masses of damage done to her joints by the disease process. started Enbrel 15mg 2x a week - 6 weeks ago and takes oral MTX 20mg. Since starting enbrel she has very little pain. She has problems with every joint in her body except her spine and neck. The pains in her neck and spine is to do with the way her feet are placed so they are making inserts for her shoes that will allow her feet to sit in na better position. She has hammer like toes and a very large instep. We get them on tuesday. A podiatrist is a must have. the insoles slip inside her shoes and help put her feet in a better position. She will need corrective surgery at a later date to straighten out her toes.. there is alot of damage to the joints in her feet but the insoles should allow her to walk further and get back to running in the playground. Enthesitis Related Arthritis and Psoriatic arthritis are related. but pain is a large part of what they go through. Her jaw is fused on one side and is undergrown, she has been referred to a maxillo facial surgeon for this. --------------------------------- Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Could be heel spurs? Not arthritis related. But does cause plenty of heel pain. I would check with podiatrist. Patty _____ From: Subject: [ ] Heel Pain Has anyone ever experienced this? My son started having heel pain about 8 weeks ago, just when he plays basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I have pain too. Mine started about 6 months ago. It feels like I'm walking on cracking glass. I mentioned this to my Rhuematologist, he said it could be Planter Facitis. I bought heel inserts for my shoes and it has helped the pain. I'm going to try the gel heel cup to see how it works. I just wanted to pass this along to you. Rhonda > > Has anyone ever experienced this? My son started having heel pain > about 8 weeks ago, just when he plays basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Don't know how old your son is but it really doesn't make a difference. Take him to a podiatrist - they can give him proper exercises if it's something like plantar faschitis or he made need orthotics. Make sure you talk to people first though and find one that people have been happy with; you will need a good one for proper diagnosis and treatment. Joanna Hoelscher 630-833-7361 [ ] Heel Pain Has anyone ever experienced this? My son started having heel pain about 8 weeks ago, just when he plays basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 - ask about plantar fasciitis. That is an inflammation of the plantar fascia (connective tissue) in the bottom of the foot, including where it attaches to the heel bone. I had it really bad in Spring of 2007. My pain was in my heel at first, then later it was up under the base of my toes, where the fascia attaches to the toe bones. One thing about the tendonitis related to PA is that it often mostly affects the spot right where the tendon inserts into the bone. That makes it hard to tell whether it's a joint or bone hurting or a tendon. Anyway, plantar fasciitis is pretty common with PA. An MRI won't show this unless it's gone on so long that it's caused heel spurs. There are some easy stretching exercises you can do to help this and to keep it from recurring once it gets better. http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/healthy/physical/injuries /140.html best regards, sherry z > > Has anyone ever experienced this? My son started having heel pain > about 8 weeks ago, just when he plays basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Heel pain was the first manifistation I had of PA. I got corrective shoes and the pain subsided, but it could return at any time. Make sure your son sees a Rhuematologist.Good Luck Walt [ ] Heel Pain Has anyone ever experienced this? My son started having heel pain about 8 weeks ago, just when he plays basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Hi! I have experienced this in my L heel only for about four years. I believe it is PA. I am 37 and looking back, I believe I had this disease as a teen. No MD can probably say for sure it is PA, I have just put things together in a puzzle and it all adds up to PA. A prime example is when I was 29 and had my first abnormal pap smear. The results kept coming back nonspecific inflammation. I went through surgery etc. Now its all clear....it was PA creeping in one area at a time. I can tell you that when my heel hurts, I cannot stand to bear weight on it. The pain in my heel relieves when my other joints relieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hi , Sounds like maybe plantar fascitis, which causes heel pain. This was one of my first symptoms of PA, although it took years to figure out what it was and to make it go away! Look it up, and see if the symptoms are similar to what he's experiencing. A podiatrist should be able to diagnose this. Mine began on the left foot. I had six cortisone injections over a period of six months and the dr. would tape my foot. Then we tried physical therapy. I finally wore a traction boot for a few months and it the pain gradually dissipated, before moving on the the right foot, and I began the process all over again. I even was wearing the traction boot at my wedding, as it took about two years to go away. warm blessings, jane --- toivonen4 <toivonen4@...> wrote: Has anyone ever experienced this? My son started having heel pain about 8 weeks ago, just when he plays basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 Thanks for all the replies. The rheumy doesn't think it is the plantar fascia because Grant would have been in excruciating pain when he pressed on a spot on his foot. We have put as many as 3 gel heel pads in his basketball shoe along with stretching and icing it which definately all seems to help. We'll just have to wait and see if this new dose of mtx will help it. & Grant/10/Uveitis/PsA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Hi andra: I was sorry to read that you are suffering with that heel pain. The RA has hit my feet and ankles the worst. When I have a flare, I can't stand on them, and walking is very difficult. Those days, I stay in bed, plus, I have to use my walker for stability. I had the Plantar Facitis very bad. I was also having a RA flare at the time. The Podiatrist gave me shots in my heel, on 3 diff. visits. I also have a RA noduele on the outside of my right foot, by the arch. It is very swollen all the time, and at times, very painful. It took a long time for the heel pain to go away after the last shot. My foot dr. also ordered me 2 types of shoe inserts. One I wear reg., and the other, when my feet are hurting really bad. The inserts that I just love, are the ones that look and feel like memory foam. They make my feet so happy. I highly recommend them to everyone. The inserts cost $35.00 a pair. You just remove the insert that came with your shoes/sneakers, and put the new ones in its place. I was also diagnosed with RA Neuropathy of both feet. It hit the ball of my feet, and my toes. It causes me to walk unbalanced, so I use my cane. I hope this information helps you. Wishing you pain free days, and God Bless you. Hugs, Barbara > > I haven't posted on here in a long time. I have a question about heel > pain. My arthritis has been pretty stable for a couple of years > except in my wrists and elbows. This summer I started getting quite > severe heel pain. I've been to 5 doctors (GP, rheum, ER doc, > orthopedic surgeon and a podiatrist) and two physio therapists. I > have a heel spur and plantar faciitis, but i've also got a lot of > swelling on the outside of my foot and sometimes tingling in my toes. > 3 docs think it's RA related, 2 don't. Apparently the tendons and > heel pad are also quite swollen and the bone itself is very tender, > but the joints themselves are fine. Has anyone had anything like this > and did they think it was RA related? What did people have done? I am > currently wearing an aircast and am " resting " it. I've had 2 previous > courses of prednisone which helped only for a short while. It's been 6 > months and I'm quite annoyed. Please help. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I have not been diagnosed with RA, but have an appt with a Rheumatologist in October. I guess I had a flare up of either Osteo or RA in August. I had severe pain in my hands and feet with swelling. It was more than just my joints, but the pain was excruciating. My question concerns my feet. When I stand very long, the pain in my feet is agonizing - this includes the ankle, bones on top and heels - not my toes. For a long time my heels have been hurting and I thought it was heels spurs. For the last 6 months, the back of my heels have became very sensitive. It almost feels like the skin could crack and I can not stand to lay the back of the heel on anything - bed or recliner foot rest. I was wearing shoes without backs , but with the pain I try to wear shoes with extra support and they have backs that cause me discomfort. Has anyone ever had this or heard of it? Could it be related to my other symptoms? Does anyone know how to fix it? Regina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 The same with my son, ...exactly the same! (, 12, poly) From: rosannwinn@... Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:34:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Heel pain Sorry Hannah is experiencing this pain. Sometimes 's ankle pain comes on suddenly, especially in the early evening. She's fine one minute and limping and saying her ankle hurts an 8 the next. nn (, 9, systemic) > > Hi everyone, > Haven't needed advice in a while, but I have a new question. Yesterday Hannah & > I were in the grocery store. She suffered a sudden onset of pain. It was on > the very back of the ankle and radiates into her heel. It came out of nowhere > was just as severe this morning. She does not recall an injury and again it was > very sudden. We iced it last night and kept it elevated. > > Anyone experience this or have clue what this might be? She has never had such > a sudden onset before. I had to wrap her foot this morning just for cushioning > so she could walk on it and go to school, but she was still limping. > > Beth & Hannah, 13, OA, HMJS, vit d deficiency, asthma and allergies > The only disability in life is a bad attitude. ~ Hamilton > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 I took her to the ped today when she was still having severe pain after school. She was diagnosed with Sever's disease, which has to do with the achilles tendon in her heel. There is not much to do for it. Most kids will outgrow it eventually, we will have to see if Hannah will be one of them. Very common in teens. The only thing to do for it is stretching; rest; and NSAIDs (which Hannah cannot take).  Beth & Hannah The only disability in life is a bad attitude. ~ Hamilton ________________________________ From: Dantes <cgdantes@...> Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 9:05:25 PM Subject: RE: Re: Heel pain The same with my son, ...exactly the same! (, 12, poly) From: rosannwinn@... Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:34:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Heel pain  Sorry Hannah is experiencing this pain. Sometimes 's ankle pain comes on suddenly, especially in the early evening. She's fine one minute and limping and saying her ankle hurts an 8 the next. nn (, 9, systemic) > > Hi everyone, > Haven't needed advice in a while, but I have a new question. Yesterday Hannah > & > > I were in the grocery store. She suffered a sudden onset of pain. It was on > the very back of the ankle and radiates into her heel. It came out of nowhere > was just as severe this morning. She does not recall an injury and again it >was > > very sudden. We iced it last night and kept it elevated. > > Anyone experience this or have clue what this might be? She has never had such > > a sudden onset before. I had to wrap her foot this morning just for cushioning > > so she could walk on it and go to school, but she was still limping. > > Beth & Hannah, 13, OA, HMJS, vit d deficiency, asthma and allergies > The only disability in life is a bad attitude. ~ Hamilton > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Beth, sorry to hear that. Glad you got it diagnosed. I hope resting it will help the pain. nn > > > > Hi everyone, > > Haven't needed advice in a while, but I have a new question. Yesterday Hannah > > & > > > > I were in the grocery store. She suffered a sudden onset of pain. It was on > > the very back of the ankle and radiates into her heel. It came out of nowhere > > > was just as severe this morning. She does not recall an injury and again it > >was > > > > very sudden. We iced it last night and kept it elevated. > > > > Anyone experience this or have clue what this might be? She has never had such > > > > a sudden onset before. I had to wrap her foot this morning just for cushioning > > > > so she could walk on it and go to school, but she was still limping. > > > > Beth & Hannah, 13, OA, HMJS, vit d deficiency, asthma and allergies > > The only disability in life is a bad attitude. ~ Hamilton > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Chris' heel pain is associated with his spondylitis. The Achilles tendon can become inflamed and is sometimes mistaken for ankle pain. The tendons that run through the body can become inflamed just like a joint. Plus, I know for myself and my younger daughter, we both have heel spurs which can often cause sudden pain in the heel. They told us to wear orthotics and that does help. If it persists you might want to see a podiatrist, but be sure to mention it to the rheumy as well who can check for inflammation. Michele ( 23, spondy) Re: Heel pain Sorry Hannah is experiencing this pain. Sometimes 's ankle pain comes on suddenly, especially in the early evening. She's fine one minute and limping and saying her ankle hurts an 8 the next. nn (, 9, systemic) > > Hi everyone, > Haven't needed advice in a while, but I have a new question. Yesterday Hannah & > I were in the grocery store. She suffered a sudden onset of pain. It was on > the very back of the ankle and radiates into her heel. It came out of nowhere > was just as severe this morning. She does not recall an injury and again it was > very sudden. We iced it last night and kept it elevated. > > Anyone experience this or have clue what this might be? She has never had such > a sudden onset before. I had to wrap her foot this morning just for cushioning > so she could walk on it and go to school, but she was still limping. > > Beth & Hannah, 13, OA, HMJS, vit d deficiency, asthma and allergies > The only disability in life is a bad attitude. ~ Hamilton > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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