Re: CBC lab results could indicate your MS or health progress

[Guest guest]

> I would be interested if any of the alternative doctors in the group

> has any comments on this or if anyone would like to share your lab

> numbers if it matches what I am saying or not relating to remission

> or progression of the disease.

Hi Hope,

I haven't heard this before, and it's interesting (especially since

I'm a medical technologist, so I understand the dynamics of the CBC,

absolute counts vs. percent, etc.). Back in the spring, my lymphs

were at 24% - I had just started the Best Bet Diet and had not gotten

rid of symptoms yet. I was supposed to have routine bloodwork this

month, but my PCP closed her practice and I haven't had time to go

find another.

I'm curious, if there is a definite correlation here, do you think

that points towards MS as autoimmune or infectious? At this point, I

think I pretty much reject the commonly accepted explanation of MS as

autoimmune. Dr. O. Young makes a good case for it not being

autoimmune...i.e. the WBCs are doing clean-up work, not attacking.

Crystal

[Guest guest]

Hello Crystal and everyone,

I don't buy the autoimmune theory except for it will indicate to me

a chronic immune system imbalance. I'm not sure if I would say the

primary cause would be infection though either because I believe

infections are opportunistic and there first must be a physiological

weakness or immune system imbalance leading to the person being

susceptible. When the granulocytes (neutrophiles) get to a high

percentage the activity of these circulating as well as tissue

granulocyte cells such as in the digestive system overproduce

because of the chronic immune system stimulation by the autonomic

nervous system when a person is sympathetic dominant. Simply put,

chronic stress (or at least physiological stress) leads to this

imbalance which leads to tissue inflammation from over activity of

the out of balance percentages especially from the high neutrophiles.

The immune system is simply a result of the autonomic nervous system

imbalance. Many factors help to create physiological stress. Stop

these things over time, bring the body back toward a parasympathetic

balance and you will see the immune system change watching the CBC.

As this changes eventually the MS will also change with time. This

is not a quick fix but as everyone knows, MS is a very chronic

condition. It could take months or even years depending upon the

strength of each person and their level of vitality.

I would like to hear more of your blood history and your new test

when you get it, but at 24% lymphocyte this would give about a >70%

neutrophile percentage. Look back at your values to see a trend over

months or years if you have past tests. When you were healthy you

would have had more normal values closer to the 60/35%

neutrophile/lymphocyte. I have seen all stage 4 cancer patients with

solid tumor cancers show a decline over months prior to dying.

Please note, many of these patients still had levels that were

within the lab normal ranges with total WBC and even the

differential. What I tell people is that the normal range on your

blood work means that you fall into the average category that all of

the other sick people are in. Being in the normal range does not

mean everything is OK, you can be very sick and still in the labs

normal range, it doesn't mean a whole lot.

As I'm sure you know, acute infection of virus will raise your

lymphocyte count and percentage temporarily. An acute bacterial

infection will raise your neutrophile count and percentage and total

WBCs temporarily. Acute stress will lower your total WBC count

temporarily. These are normal and healthy immune system response

changes, but what is important to watch are the long term chronic

pattern that can be seen over time. Even if your total WBCs are

normal but you have a chronic history of imbalanced neutrophile to

lymphocyte percentage you will have a weak immune system and be at

risk for disease or already have a developing process such as MS.

I suggest a CBC with differential be done monthly if someone really

wants to chart their progress. I would love to hear from anyone

that has a copy or history of their CBC with the white blood cell

differential to show everyone this pattern. I think you will be

amazed. There are many things that can help bring balance to the

body including much of what is talked about on this list.

Sincerely,

Hope

> Hi Hope,

>

> I haven't heard this before, and it's interesting (especially

since

> I'm a medical technologist, so I understand the dynamics of the

CBC,

> absolute counts vs. percent, etc.). Back in the spring, my lymphs

> were at 24% - I had just started the Best Bet Diet and had not

gotten

> rid of symptoms yet. I was supposed to have routine bloodwork

this

> month, but my PCP closed her practice and I haven't had time to go

> find another.

>

> I'm curious, if there is a definite correlation here, do you think

> that points towards MS as autoimmune or infectious? At this

point, I

> think I pretty much reject the commonly accepted explanation of MS

as

> autoimmune. Dr. O. Young makes a good case for it not

being

> autoimmune...i.e. the WBCs are doing clean-up work, not attacking.

>

> Crystal

>

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Hi Hope,

So, if a person's count was below 30%, how would one go about raising it? Some

of us have done several things including diet, cleanses, hormones, and several

other things to no avail. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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Hi Hope,

So, if a person's count was below 30%, how would one go about raising it? Some

of us have done several things including diet, cleanses, hormones, and several

other things to no avail. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

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