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Hi Kami...when I had a similar problem with Humira....(redness, hard site

area, burning for days on end which created a pressure ulcer which in turn

took part of the muscle from my leg and I have an indentation there now).

Long story. I could even put anything over the leg, it was so painful. I

reported it to Abbott and the FDA. There is a way you can report it online

and detail your reaction.

I don't know anything about Cimzia....so sorry. Good luck on that med.

I did use the enbrel self mix which didn't contain a preservative like the

premix does. I don't have the burn at all with the enbrel and the only

reaction I had was a little redness.

Hugs and good luck again..a

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I'm not sure, Kami. But if you're willing to call the FDA, you can

explain what happened and that you did contact the manufacturer. They

can then decide if they want to take your report, too.

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On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...> wrote:

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> I did call Enbrel and they took down the lot info from the injections I

had done. Does this mean they would report it or should I report it again?

>

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> Kami

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So sorry to hear that, Kami.

Cimzia hasn't been discussed much here, but perhaps someone who is on

it currently or has been in the past will post.

I hope you and/or your rheumatologist will report your injection site

reaction woes to MedWatch.

http://www.fda.gov/safety/medwatch/default.htm

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On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:36 PM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...> wrote:

> I just got off the phone with my doctor and she wants me to stop Enbrel due to

the site reactions I have been getting (size of softball, hard, hot... lasting 5

days)

>

> She wants me to try Cimzia. I do not recall anyone here being on this

medication so if you are and I may have missed it... give me a shout out!

>

> Thanks!

>

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> Kami

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I did call Enbrel and they took down the lot info from the injections I had

done. Does this mean they would report it or should I report it again?

Kami

Re: [ ] Now onto CIMZIA

So sorry to hear that, Kami.

Cimzia hasn't been discussed much here, but perhaps someone who is on

it currently or has been in the past will post.

I hope you and/or your rheumatologist will report your injection site

reaction woes to MedWatch.

http://www.fda.gov/safety/medwatch/default.htm

Not an MD

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:36 PM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...> wrote:

> I just got off the phone with my doctor and she wants me to stop Enbrel due

to the site reactions I have been getting (size of softball, hard, hot...

lasting 5 days)

>

> She wants me to try Cimzia. I do not recall anyone here being on this

medication so if you are and I may have missed it... give me a shout out!

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

> Kami

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I'm not sure, Kami. But if you're willing to call the FDA, you can

explain what happened and that you did contact the manufacturer. They

can then decide if they want to take your report, too.

Not an MD

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 5:05 PM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> I did call Enbrel and they took down the lot info from the injections I had

done. Does this mean they would report it or should I report it again?

>

>

>

>

> Kami

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Hi Kami, what a drag that Enbrel didn't work, but I am excited to hear about the

Cimzia. Onward! You know, isn't Enbrel engineered from a mouse protein or

something like that? I wonder if you had some kind of derivative sensitivity.

Blech, mouse protein...

:) Kate f

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On May 18, 2010, at 3:36 PM, " ~Kami~ " <kamilleon@...> wrote:

I just got off the phone with my doctor and she wants me to stop Enbrel due to

the site reactions I have been getting (size of softball, hard, hot... lasting 5

days)

She wants me to try Cimzia. I do not recall anyone here being on this medication

so if you are and I may have missed it... give me a shout out!

Thanks!

Kami

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Kate,

It's Remicade (infliximab) that has both mouse and human components.

Enbrel (etanercept) is " fully human. "

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On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Kate Fair <kalfoley@...> wrote:

> Hi Kami, what a drag that Enbrel didn't work, but I am excited to hear about

the Cimzia. Onward! You know, isn't Enbrel engineered from a mouse protein or

something like that? I wonder if you had some kind of derivative sensitivity.

Blech, mouse protein...

> :) Kate f

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Hmmmm...I'm torn, which is more gross? Mouse? Or human? :)

Kate F

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On May 18, 2010, at 9:27 PM,

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Kate,

It's Remicade (infliximab) that has both mouse and human components.

Enbrel (etanercept) is " fully human. "

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On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Kate Fair <kalfoley@...> wrote:

> Hi Kami, what a drag that Enbrel didn't work, but I am excited to hear about

the Cimzia. Onward! You know, isn't Enbrel engineered from a mouse protein or

something like that? I wonder if you had some kind of derivative sensitivity.

Blech, mouse protein...

> :) Kate f

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Hahahaha I'm having that same urge and no idea why....lol a

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that would explain my occasional desire to run on a big wheel.

> > Hmmmm...I'm torn, which is more gross? Mouse? Or human? :)

> > Kate F

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Kate,

Would it help to know that hamster ovaries are used to produce your

" fully human " Enbrel?

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On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Kate Fair <kalfoley@...> wrote:

> Hmmmm...I'm torn, which is more gross? Mouse? Or human? :)

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Man... It just gets ickier, huh? Looks like I was right to throw out that insert

without further thought! :)

Reminds me of reading Dr Sears' vaccine book and getting skeeved out about how

some vaxes are engineered. Monkey kidneys! Ewwwwwwww! Kate F

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Kate,

Would it help to know that hamster ovaries are used to produce your

" fully human " Enbrel?

Not an MD

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Kate Fair <kalfoley@...> wrote:

> Hmmmm...I'm torn, which is more gross? Mouse? Or human? :)

> Kate F

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Jane..Hahaha We should..... I haven't had a tutu since.....well, since

forever. LOL

Hugs..paula

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a, we should get matching tutus or something....:o)

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..wonder what they would like if we reported that " side effect " ? LOL

a

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Jane..Hahaha We should..... I haven't had a tutu since.....well, since

forever. LOL

Hugs..paula

In a message dated 5/19/2010 3:13:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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a, we should get matching tutus or something....:o)

> > > Hmmmm...I'm torn, which is more gross? Mouse? Or human? :)

> > > Kate F

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a and Jane,

You both better call the FDA/MedWatch to report that!

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On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:49 AM, <rascalsniche@...> wrote:

> Hahahaha  I'm having that same urge and no idea why....lol   a

>

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> In a message dated 5/19/2010 11:35:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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> that  would explain my occasional desire to run on a big wheel.

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I for one don't care what's in my Enbrel, as long as it keeps on

working well for me. But how can they call it " fully human " when the

use hamster ovaries to produce it? Those poor hamsters!

Sue

On May 19, 2010, at 10:01 AM, wrote:

> Kate,

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> Would it help to know that hamster ovaries are used to produce your

> " fully human " Enbrel?

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Haha....I'll make a note of that ...a

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Call on April 1, a!

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On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:29 PM, <rascalsniche@...> wrote:

> ..wonder what they would like if we reported that " side effect " ?

LOL

>

> a

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a, we should get matching tutus or something....:o)

> > > Hmmmm...I'm torn, which is more gross? Mouse? Or human? :)

> > > Kate F

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My rheumy told me Enbrel was from mouse something or other to which I replied...

" I wish you had not told me this.... "

I wonder what she was smoking....

Kami

Re: [ ] Now onto CIMZIA

Kate,

It's Remicade (infliximab) that has both mouse and human components.

Enbrel (etanercept) is " fully human. "

Not an MD

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Kate Fair <kalfoley@...> wrote:

> Hi Kami, what a drag that Enbrel didn't work, but I am excited to hear about

the Cimzia. Onward! You know, isn't Enbrel engineered from a mouse protein or

something like that? I wonder if you had some kind of derivative sensitivity.

Blech, mouse protein...

> :) Kate f

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Call on April 1, a!

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On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 2:29 PM, <rascalsniche@...> wrote:

> ..wonder what they would like if we reported that " side effect " ?   LOL

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> a

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Sue,

The hamster cells are used to create Enbrel, but aren't part of the

final product.

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On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:05 PM, marysue <marysue@...> wrote:

> I for one don't care what's in my Enbrel, as long as it keeps on

> working well for me. But how can they call it " fully human " when the

> use hamster ovaries to produce it? Those poor hamsters!

>

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Not sure what she was smoking either, Kami. Enbrel has no mouse components.

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On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:03 PM, ~Kami~ <kamilleon@...> wrote:

> My rheumy told me Enbrel was from mouse something or other to which I

replied... " I wish you had not told me this.... "

>

> I wonder what she was smoking....

>

>

>

>

> Kami

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