In Pain

October 18, 2004

>

> Anyway, I am pretty bummed as last week was REALLY good for me, I

> ate clean and worked out every day, now I am sooooooooooo SORE

that EECH....either way, I am still eating clean- might just do

UBWO today instead of LBWO, I am thinking that is better than

nothing.

First off, hang in there and try to put it behind you. Personally I

do drink on my free days but I know that if I didn't I would

probably see faster progress.

I would definitely switch your UBWO and LBWO. Try some stretching

and see if that helps. Maybe some ibuprofen if is still really

painful.

Colleen

October 18, 2004

Ab Bootcamp will definitely clobber you if you're not used to all those intense

ab variations. This is as sore as you'll ever be with it though. Next time the

exercise demands won't be new to you and you'll do better. Although, it still

normally hurts me to laugh or sneeze after a really good ab workout. Not a dying

on the floor, first week kind of incredible pain but an " oh, yeah, I worked

those " soreness. The pain in the top part of your legs is probably your hip

flexors. They can come into play on decline crunches and anything that involves

lifting your legs up (Roman chair, reverse crunches, jackknifes.)

The hangover actually made me wince more than the tale of the ab pain. :-) The

idea of that achy nausea feeling on top of sore muscles sounds really awful.

Hang in there and keep drinking your water to combat the dehydration. Do that

great big stretch where you reach up toward the ceiling and stretch out all your

ab muscles. Here's a good hip flexor stretch:

http://www.exrx.net/Stretches/HipFlexors/Lunge.html

Hang in there!

In PAIN

Help, I HURT!

Saturday I did cardio and then thought I would be hard core and did

the AB bootcamp....well stupid me--rather than starting on the floor

as it says you can, I did it all on the decline bench....Kicked my

ass but I felt good when I left the gym...

Ok well most of yesterday and ALL of last night--and NOW THIS

MORNING- I am in INTENSE pain....seriously. From just below my belly

button to about half way down my quad. I am thinking what happened

is the bootcamp was too intense for me (too much too soon) and I did

not stretch as I should have....but I can't even get up hardly oh

and my upper abs hurt like all heck too.....

I am pretty bummed as this DEFINITELY affects my LBWO today, etc.

Saturday on the way up to Dane Cook, I ate good...had a Shake with

Fruit for breakfast, Cottage Cheese Treat, lots of water, then I

figured since we were out and about that night I would " take my free

meal then " and not on Sunday-- so I had a few Chicken Nachos, a bite

of a club sandwich, like three french fries--and umm...err....here

goes the problem--two margaritas....then at the comedy show *WHICH

WAS AWESOME--got my picture with DANE---not as cute as I thought he

was..haha*...with the two drink minimum, weak ole me rather than

ordering DIET COKE or WATER, I get a THIRD margarita, a B52 Coffee

Drink, and a HEFFENWiSen Beer....UGHHHHHHHHH and to wrap up the

night I had two more margaritas at the local pub here.

Which in turn made me feel like ARSE on Sunday, but I managed to eat

clean---cc treat, myoplex bar, turkey and green beans with a piece

of wheat bread, egg whites with veggies and a yogurt---

Anyway, I am pretty bummed as last week was REALLY good for me, I

ate clean and worked out every day, now I am sooooooooooo SORE that

EECH....either way, I am still eating clean- might just do UBWO

today instead of LBWO, I am thinking that is better than nothing.

And yeah, I am bummed that ALCOHOL was what I had on my " Free Day " ---

I KNOW you aren't supposed to drink alchohol on BFL, right?

and AAAAAAAAAHHHHH anyone been this sore, in the same spots, from Ab

Bootcamp and such???? I am dyin here

November 7, 2006

>

> my gut is in pain when i eat crushed garlic is that good or bad it

> burns ?? it lasts only like 5 minutes or less love

==>Lilly, hopefully you are eating crushed garlic with meals.

Bee

July 6, 2008

Find a sauna and a jacuzzi, they do wonders for me.

Danny F <dan_f47@...>

July 7, 2008

If it's lower back, I get some temporary relief by putting an ice pack

in the small of my back while sitting in a comfortable recliner.

>

> My back in hurting very bad. I don't see the dr. for another week. Is

> there anything i can do to help it out?

>

> " ahampton002 " <ahampton002@...>

>

July 8, 2008

Ice is a good suggestion. Ice and rest. I recently slipped on a tile floor and

landed hard on my right hip. Numerous x-rays revealed a " tremendous amount of

arthritis " in my lower back and spine (although my rheumy has insisted for years

that the pain in my back couldn't be from arthritis). My family doctor couldn't

understand why I wasn't in significant pain (I've grown tolerant of pain) and

ordered me to three days complete bed rest, icing periodically throughout the

day.

You know what? He was right on target. I recovered very quickly and a week later

was back to my workout routine. At my follow-up appointment, he read to me from

his case notes that he thought it would take me months to recover. Oh, I also

broke a bone in my wrist when I fell, but felt no pain from it whatsoever. I

guess that after being in daily pain for years, it no longer affects me the way

it used to. I'm always aware of it, but have learned to live with it and accept

it as part of my life. Very strange.

warm blessings,

jane

September 28, 2008

At 01:54 AM 9/28/2008, you wrote:

>Hi everyone,

>

> The worst thing at night and what

>wakes me up is the knee pain and if I'm on my back my neck pain will wake me

>up. I sit here and read how most of you guys all have pain meds and I have

>to say I'm a bit jealous. Not that I want a lot of pain meds, but at certain

>times of the year it's just really bad.

>

>Joi

Joi, you are entitled for something to relieve the pain. If your

current Dr. refuses to give you what you need then you should try to

find a pain management specialist or another Dr. who will. In the

short term until them frozen ice packs of blue gell that you buy at

the pharmacy wrapped in a light towel really help my pain. I use

them every night. Perhaps you could try that on you neck and

knee. For some others, heat works better, but for me it's ice. Dave

September 29, 2008

It is usually pretty hard to get a doctor to prescribe any pain med without

making an appt. Why don't you get into his office and allow him/her to see

the trouble you are in. Hopefully that would resolve it..

Tom

In a message dated 9/27/2008 11:55:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

joyfulfeathers@... writes:

Hi everyone,

It's been awhile since I posted (laptop froze up and have been busy with

work and in pain). I was doing pretty good with less pain by going to the

chiropractor and massage therapy. Well, I've gone a bit backwards since the

cooler weather has set in and the tree pollen (which I'm allergic to) has

increased. The allergies cause me to get throat/upper chest congestion and I

always begin to cough which causes my neck and upper back to get out of

alignment. At least that's what my chiropractor and I think what's going on

as that's the only change. That along with the knee and hip pain is causing

me to only get about 3-4 hours of sleep per night. Sometimes I get lucky and

get 5-6 hours. I called my doc and told them once again I was in pain and

needed a refill or something for the pain. I never heard back. Why is it

that I can't seem to get any docs to LISTEN to me that I'm in pain and give

me something? My chiropractor can tell I'm in a lot of pain but he can't

prescribe anything. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse so to speak.

Actually I feel like the dead horse! I'm sick and tired of not getting help

with the pain. I can barely even walk in the mornings let alone all day and

I know it'll only get worse with winter coming. My neck is causing my head

to hurt (migraine like pain) and my ears ring so loud I can't always hear

everything when people talk to me. This really needs to get better.what am I

to do??? My chiropractor feels badly and says to come in when I need an

adjustment, which does help, but it still doesn't have lasting affects and

of course doesn't help the knees at night. The worst thing at night and what

wakes me up is the knee pain and if I'm on my back my neck pain will wake me

up. I sit here and read how most of you guys all have pain meds and I have

to say I'm a bit jealous. Not that I want a lot of pain meds, but at certain

times of the year it's just really bad.

Joi

Gizmo, Yoda, Max, Jazzy, Artemis, Shelby, and Padme'

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October 1, 2008

Hi Dave,

I feel I'm entitled to pain relief too. When I called, I said I'd come in if

that's what was needed. I have to begin with my Primary care doc, so

hopefully she'll just call in a script. She knows me very well and knows I

won't ask for something until it's gotten pretty bad. I have seen her for

this before too. She did call in a muscle relaxer which I am going to take

tonight. Unfortunately it won't help with the bone pain in my neck and

knees. They called in that script and never told me they did that.I had to

call them back. I know if my doc knew that she'd be upset. We don't have a

pain management doc here.also don't have an Osteopath.just Ortho docs and I

haven't had ANY luck with them. My hubby works in corrections at the local

jail and he has " customers " that ask for pain meds and the docs just hand it

over. Why do they get it so easily and I don't get it at all? What am I

doing wrong? I mean, I go in there in such pain that I'm crying and

everything! My chiropractor can tell I need help but he can't prescribe

anything. He really does feel for me. I wish more docs were like him.

I do ice all the time. Even when numb I can still feel the sharp stabbing

pain. My hands are tingling and the right one is slightly numb now. It's

like I'm back at square one and we can't figure out why.

Joi

Gizmo, Yoda, Max, Jazzy, Artemis, Shelby, and Padme'

<http://www.toolady.com/www/breeders/joyfulfeathers/index.html> Joyful

Feathers

" Helping Birds Find People "

Joi, you are entitled for something to relieve the pain. If your

current Dr. refuses to give you what you need then you should try to

find a pain management specialist or another Dr. who will. In the

short term until them frozen ice packs of blue gell that you buy at

the pharmacy wrapped in a light towel really help my pain. I use

them every night. Perhaps you could try that on you neck and

knee. For some others, heat works better, but for me it's ice. Dave

October 1, 2008

For me, it's hard to get anything for pain. I'd love to be able to sleep

more than 3-4 hours a night. I told my doc's office that if I needed to come

in, I'd do it.

Joi

Gizmo, Yoda, Max, Jazzy, Artemis, Shelby, and Padme'

<http://www.toolady.com/www/breeders/joyfulfeathers/index.html> Joyful

Feathers

" Helping Birds Find People "

It is usually pretty hard to get a doctor to prescribe any pain med without

making an appt. Why don't you get into his office and allow him/her to see

the trouble you are in. Hopefully that would resolve it..

Tom

October 1, 2008

Hi there Joi,

Have yoou tried carisprodol(Soma) for sleep.I had 2 shoulder

operations and I have a bone spur in my neck that caused me to have

a nasty flare-up 10 yrs ago in my left arm.(spur was pinching nerve).

Right now I take them for my SI joint..I tell you I would not be

able to sleep without one...

Sincerely,

Connie

>

> For me, it's hard to get anything for pain. I'd love to be able to

sleep

> more than 3-4 hours a night. I told my doc's office that if I

needed to come

> in, I'd do it.

>

> Joi

>

> Gizmo, Yoda, Max, Jazzy, Artemis, Shelby, and Padme'

>

> <http://www.toolady.com/www/breeders/joyfulfeathers/index.html>

Joyful

> Feathers

>

> " Helping Birds Find People "

>

> It is usually pretty hard to get a doctor to prescribe any pain

med without

> making an appt. Why don't you get into his office and allow

him/her to see

> the trouble you are in. Hopefully that would resolve it..

> Tom

>

October 1, 2008

Btw if you cant sleep zanaflex works great and allows sleep.

Deb RN

From: neck pain

[mailto:neck pain ] On Behalf Of lola94080

Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 5:02 AM

neck pain

Subject: Re: In Pain

Hi there Joi,

Have yoou tried carisprodol(Soma) for sleep.I had 2 shoulder

operations and I have a bone spur in my neck that caused me to have

a nasty flare-up 10 yrs ago in my left arm.(spur was pinching nerve).

Right now I take them for my SI joint..I tell you I would not be

able to sleep without one...

Sincerely,

Connie

>

> For me, it's hard to get anything for pain. I'd love to be able to

sleep

> more than 3-4 hours a night. I told my doc's office that if I

needed to come

> in, I'd do it.

>

> Joi

>

> Gizmo, Yoda, Max, Jazzy, Artemis, Shelby, and Padme'

>

> <http://www.toolady.com/www/breeders/joyfulfeathers/index.html>

Joyful

> Feathers

>

> " Helping Birds Find People "

>

> It is usually pretty hard to get a doctor to prescribe any pain

med without

> making an appt. Why don't you get into his office and allow

him/her to see

> the trouble you are in. Hopefully that would resolve it..

> Tom

>

October 6, 2008

I am so sorry.... That is just not right.. Have you explored getting another

doctor.. Maybe you should. Any doctor that will allow a patioent to suffer

is just not much of a doctor. Feel free to take my email to him/her on your

next visit.

Tom

In a message dated 10/1/2008 12:59:39 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

joyfulfeathers@... writes:

For me, it's hard to get anything for pain. I'd love to be able to sleep

more than 3-4 hours a night. I told my doc's office that if I needed to come

in, I'd do it.

Joi

Gizmo, Yoda, Max, Jazzy, Artemis, Shelby, and Padme'

<_http://www.toolady.http://www.toolahttp://www.toolahttp://www_

(http://www.toolady.com/www/breeders/joyfulfeathers/index.html) > Joyful

Feathers

" Helping Birds Find People "

It is usually pretty hard to get a doctor to prescribe any pain med without

making an appt. Why don't you get into his office and allow him/her to see

the trouble you are in. Hopefully that would resolve it..

Tom

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October 6, 2008

I am so sorry.... That is just not right.. Have you explored getting another

doctor.. Maybe you should. Any doctor that will allow a patioent to suffer

is just not much of a doctor. Feel free to take my email to him/her on your

next visit.

Tom

In a message dated 10/1/2008 12:59:39 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

joyfulfeathers@... writes:

For me, it's hard to get anything for pain. I'd love to be able to sleep

more than 3-4 hours a night. I told my doc's office that if I needed to come

in, I'd do it.

Joi

Gizmo, Yoda, Max, Jazzy, Artemis, Shelby, and Padme'

<_http://www.toolady.http://www.toolahttp://www.toolahttp://www_

(http://www.toolady.com/www/breeders/joyfulfeathers/index.html) > Joyful

Feathers

" Helping Birds Find People "

It is usually pretty hard to get a doctor to prescribe any pain med without

making an appt. Why don't you get into his office and allow him/her to see

the trouble you are in. Hopefully that would resolve it..

Tom

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October 23, 2008

Thanks Tom. I finally got some help but only due to the accident (we

were rear ended). They did an MRI and found several bulged disks

(from the accident). Post accident, I was on percocet for about two

weeks (I only took it at night and occasioanlly on my days off I'd

take a dose in the daytime), flexaril (still on that), and Lodine

(anti-inflammatory, which also happens to help with the hip and kee

pain). My regular doc also RX'd Darvocet but I haven't taken any. I

don't want to until I find out if it would be OK with the flexaril

and Lodine. The good news is my bones look great. Pre-accident the

pain was caused by malalignment and muscles that were too tight all

the time. I also now have ringing ears (it's quite loud!) and blurry

vision (off and on) along with headaches. I still have the pain

(shapr and burning) but it's slowly lessening. I have good days and

bad. I don't know what is usually done for bulging disks. I'll have

to do some research on that. Next week I have to start PT.

Joi

>

> I am so sorry.... That is just not right.. Have you explored

getting another

> doctor.. Maybe you should. Any doctor that will allow a patioent

to suffer

> is just not much of a doctor. Feel free to take my email to him/her

on your

> next visit.

> Tom

>

> In a message dated 10/1/2008 12:59:39 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> joyfulfeathers@... writes:

>

> For me, it's hard to get anything for pain. I'd love to be able to

sleep

> more than 3-4 hours a night. I told my doc's office that if I

needed to come

> in, I'd do it.

>

> Joi

>

> Gizmo, Yoda, Max, Jazzy, Artemis, Shelby, and Padme'

>

> <_http://www.toolady.http://www.toolahttp://www.toolahttp://www_

> (http://www.toolady.com/www/breeders/joyfulfeathers/index.html) >

Joyful

> Feathers

>

> " Helping Birds Find People "

>

> It is usually pretty hard to get a doctor to prescribe any pain

med without

> making an appt. Why don't you get into his office and allow

him/her to see

> the trouble you are in. Hopefully that would resolve it..

> Tom

>

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>

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October 23, 2008