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Hi everyone, I've checked with Enliven Services, my primary, and my rheum and

basically no one can advise me on an issue related to flu shots. I've been off

Enbrel for 2 weeks because of a respiratory bug. While I was off, I got a flu

shot on Fri, hopefully being low on antiTNF for a few days will ensure a good

response to the vaccine. I think I'll restart Enbrel today or tomorrow because

this is the longest I've been off since I was dx in 2006 and I don't want to

play with fire. Anyway, my question relates to vaxxing my 2 kiddos, ages 6 and

2. They've both done fine with flu shots in the past, so I'm not worried about

them having problems. Rather, my rheum was adamant that she didn't want me

around the live vaccine which is what the nose spray flu vaccine contains. Last

year my then 5 yr old got it at school and I was fine, but my rheum was peeved,

saying that I shouldn't be exposed to live virus. Yeah, I get that in theory,

but now that I've been vaccinated against this year's strains, I was thinking I

could do the nose spray version for both kids and use typical precautions for

the first evening while they may shed live virus. Basically I work full time,

commute 2 hrs/day, am exhausted in the evenings, and would really like to skip

the tears and agony involved in vaccinating two kids at 6pm on a school night

with needles. Thoughts? Advice? Seriously, I'm a wuss. I used to make my

coworker (Navy RN and pro mom) take my oldest to get shots because I couldn't

stand him getting upset.

Thanks, Kate F

PS - While I appreciate the recent discussion on safety concerns related to the

flu-shot and actually share some of these concerns as my husband had a GBS-like

reaction to his flu shot in 2007, I have weighed pros and cons and decided to

vaccinate the boys. My oldest has asthma/reactive airway and we have decided

this is what is both for our children's health.

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If your son has asthma he should not be getting the nasal live virus anyway. My

pediatrician will not allow my 2 kids with asthma to get the live virus. She

said they are only to get the shot. I was also told that we need to stay away

from anyone in the household getting the live virus nasal spray. My kids all got

the shot because I wasn't going to take any chances with my health either. The

way I see it, why rock the boat. We have enough problems. LOL Best of luck in

whatever you decide.

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> Hi everyone, I've checked with Enliven Services, my primary, and my rheum and

> basically no one can advise me on an issue related to flu shots. I've been

off

> Enbrel for 2 weeks because of a respiratory bug. While I was off, I got a flu

> shot on Fri, hopefully being low on antiTNF for a few days will ensure a good

> response to the vaccine. I think I'll restart Enbrel today or tomorrow

because

> this is the longest I've been off since I was dx in 2006 and I don't want to

> play with fire. Anyway, my question relates to vaxxing my 2 kiddos, ages 6

and

> 2. They've both done fine with flu shots in the past, so I'm not worried

about

> them having problems. Rather, my rheum was adamant that she didn't want me

> around the live vaccine which is what the nose spray flu vaccine contains.

Last

> year my then 5 yr old got it at school and I was fine, but my rheum was

peeved,

> saying that I shouldn't be exposed to live virus. Yeah, I get that in theory,

> but now that I've been vaccinated against this year's strains, I was thinking

I

> could do the nose spray version for both kids and use typical precautions for

> the first evening while they may shed live virus. Basically I work full time,

> commute 2 hrs/day, am exhausted in the evenings, and would really like to skip

> the tears and agony involved in vaccinating two kids at 6pm on a school night

> with needles. Thoughts? Advice? Seriously, I'm a wuss. I used to make my

> coworker (Navy RN and pro mom) take my oldest to get shots because I couldn't

> stand him getting upset.

>

> Thanks, Kate F

> PS - While I appreciate the recent discussion on safety concerns related to

the

> flu-shot and actually share some of these concerns as my husband had a

GBS-like

> reaction to his flu shot in 2007, I have weighed pros and cons and decided to

> vaccinate the boys. My oldest has asthma/reactive airway and we have decided

> this is what is both for our children's health.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Ah nuts, good point . Wah, I was hoping for an easy way! Kate F

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On Nov 21, 2010, at 5:33 PM, " ktandtm " <ktandtm@...> wrote:

If your son has asthma he should not be getting the nasal live virus anyway. My

pediatrician will not allow my 2 kids with asthma to get the live virus. She

said they are only to get the shot. I was also told that we need to stay away

from anyone in the household getting the live virus nasal spray. My kids all got

the shot because I wasn't going to take any chances with my health either. The

way I see it, why rock the boat. We have enough problems. LOL Best of luck in

whatever you decide.

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Hi Kate, I think they actually shed live virus (albeit a weakened one) for

several weeks.

I will try to confirm at work (NIH).

I know that I got shingles for the millionth time after my youngest was

accidentally given chicken pox virus. Once I got it, I got the other kids in for

an emergency chicken pox vax, since I already had shingles :-)

I am at a weird place, where my neuro really wants to vaccinate me for shingles,

but is pretty sure I will get shingles from it. No one really knows what to do.

>

> Hi everyone, I've checked with Enliven Services, my primary, and my rheum and

> basically no one can advise me on an issue related to flu shots. I've been

off

> Enbrel for 2 weeks because of a respiratory bug. While I was off, I got a flu

> shot on Fri, hopefully being low on antiTNF for a few days will ensure a good

> response to the vaccine. I think I'll restart Enbrel today or tomorrow

because

> this is the longest I've been off since I was dx in 2006 and I don't want to

> play with fire. Anyway, my question relates to vaxxing my 2 kiddos, ages 6

and

> 2. They've both done fine with flu shots in the past, so I'm not worried

about

> them having problems. Rather, my rheum was adamant that she didn't want me

> around the live vaccine which is what the nose spray flu vaccine contains.

Last

> year my then 5 yr old got it at school and I was fine, but my rheum was

peeved,

> saying that I shouldn't be exposed to live virus. Yeah, I get that in theory,

> but now that I've been vaccinated against this year's strains, I was thinking

I

> could do the nose spray version for both kids and use typical precautions for

> the first evening while they may shed live virus. Basically I work full time,

> commute 2 hrs/day, am exhausted in the evenings, and would really like to skip

> the tears and agony involved in vaccinating two kids at 6pm on a school night

> with needles. Thoughts? Advice? Seriously, I'm a wuss. I used to make my

> coworker (Navy RN and pro mom) take my oldest to get shots because I couldn't

> stand him getting upset.

>

> Thanks, Kate F

> PS - While I appreciate the recent discussion on safety concerns related to

the

> flu-shot and actually share some of these concerns as my husband had a

GBS-like

> reaction to his flu shot in 2007, I have weighed pros and cons and decided to

> vaccinate the boys. My oldest has asthma/reactive airway and we have decided

> this is what is both for our children's health.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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My rheumy doesn't advocate the shingles shot for those of us who are

immunocompromised. I just hope I don't get it again. My PCP treated it

aggressively, though, and I had a pretty easy time of it.

Sue

On Nov 22, 2010, at 11:38 AM, diane_lilley wrote:

> Hi Kate, I think they actually shed live virus (albeit a weakened

> one) for several weeks.

> I will try to confirm at work (NIH).

> I know that I got shingles for the millionth time after my youngest

> was accidentally given chicken pox virus. Once I got it, I got the

> other kids in for an emergency chicken pox vax, since I already had

> shingles :-)

>

> I am at a weird place, where my neuro really wants to vaccinate me

> for shingles, but is pretty sure I will get shingles from it. No one

> really knows what to do.

>

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You can get shingles more than one time. But as I said, my rheumy

advised against the shingles shot, since my immune system is

compromised by RA.

Sue

On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Greenfield wrote:

> I thought that once you got shingles, it was no use getting the vac

> for

> it?....

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I had a really bad case of shingles last year. I just turned 60 so I asked my

PCP about the vaccine because I don't think you can get it before age 60. He

said he gave it to someone who was on a very low dose of prednisone and she got

a bad case of shingles because has a partially live virus in it so he wouldn't

give it to me.

Sue L

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> > I thought that once you got shingles, it was no use getting the vac

> > for

> > it?....

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I don't think age matters with shingles.

Sue

On Nov 24, 2010, at 8:58 AM, SueL wrote:

> I had a really bad case of shingles last year. I just turned 60 so I

> asked my PCP about the vaccine because I don't think you can get it

> before age 60. He said he gave it to someone who was on a very low

> dose of prednisone and she got a bad case of shingles because has a

> partially live virus in it so he wouldn't give it to me.

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I should clarify...I don't think they give the shingle vaccination before age

60. I've know people who were high school age get the shingles.

> >

> > > I thought that once you got shingles, it was no use getting the vac

> > > for

> > > it?....

> >

>

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