Guest guest Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 J Rheumatol. 2009 Nov 2. Citrulline Dependence of Anti-Cyclic Citrullinated Peptide Antibodies in Systemic Lupus Erythematosus as a Marker of Deforming/Erosive Arthritis. Kakumanu P, Sobel ES, Narain S, Li Y, Akaogi J, Yamasaki Y, Segal MS, Hahn PC, Chan EK, Reeves WH, Satoh M. From the the Division of Rheumatology and Clinical Immunology, Department of Medicine; Department of Pathology, Immunology, and Laboratory Medicine; Division of Nephrology, Department of Medicine; and Department of Oral Biology, University of Florida, Gainesville, Florida, USA. OBJECTIVE: Anti-cyclic citrullinated peptide (CCP) antibodies are a serological marker for rheumatoid arthritis (RA); up to 10%-15% of patients with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) are also positive. While anti-CCP in RA is citrulline-dependent, anti-CCP in some other diseases is citrulline-independent and reacts with both CCP and the unmodified (arginine-containing) cyclic arginine peptide (CAP). We investigated the citrulline dependence of anti-CCP and its significance in the arthritis of SLE. METHODS: IgG anti-CCP was compared by ELISA to anti-CAP in sera from patients with SLE (n = 335) and RA (n = 47) and healthy controls (n = 35). SLE patients were divided into 5 groups based on their joint involvement: subset I: deforming/erosive arthritis (n = 20); II: arthritis fulfilling (or likely fulfilling) American College of Rheumatology criteria for RA but without erosions (n = 18); III: joint swelling but not fulfilling RA criteria (n = 39); IV: arthritis without documented joint swelling (n = 194); and V: no arthritis (n = 58). RESULTS: Anti-CCP (> 1.7 units) was found in 68% (32/47) of patients with RA and 17% (55/329) of those with SLE. It was more common in SLE patients with deforming/erosive arthritis (38%). High anti-CCP (> 10 units) was found in RA (26%) and deforming/erosive SLE (12%). High anti- CCP/CAP ratios (> 2, indicating a selectivity to CCP) were found in 91% of anti-CCP-positive RA and 50% of anti-CCP-positive SLE patients with deforming/erosive arthritis. Patients from subset II did not have high anti-CCP/CAP. CONCLUSION: Citrulline dependence or high levels (> 10) of anti-CCP were common in SLE patients with deforming/erosive arthritis, while most anti-CCP in SLE patients was citrulline-independent. This may be useful in identifying a subset of SLE patients with high risk for development of deforming/erosive arthritis. PMID: 19884269 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19884269 Not an MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Good morning I found this article very interesting this morning. No wonder I always felt so much worse after eating watermelon. I had to read about citrulline again at www.wikipedia.com. I try to understand what the article is saying, but the more I read it, the more I become confused. It seems to me that ammonia, which has something to do with our liver, has something to do with RA. One sentence that sparks my interest read that patients with RA often have detectable antibodies against proteins containing citrulline. " against proteins " - I don't understand that.  I also read about citrullination. If you or anyone in this group reads about this, I would be interested in knowing what you think. Thank you and take care. (musiclvr3237) From: <Rheumatoid.Arthritis.Support@...> Subject: [ ] RESEARCH - Citrulline dependence of anti-CCP antibodies in SLE as a marker of deforming/erosive arthritis " " < > Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 10:06 AM  J Rheumatol. 2009 Nov 2. Citrulline Dependence of Anti-Cyclic Citrullinated Peptide Antibodies in Systemic Lupus Erythematosus as a Marker of Deforming/Erosive Arthritis. Kakumanu P, Sobel ES, Narain S, Li Y, Akaogi J, Yamasaki Y, Segal MS, Hahn PC, Chan EK, Reeves WH, Satoh M. From the the Division of Rheumatology and Clinical Immunology, Department of Medicine; Department of Pathology, Immunology, and Laboratory Medicine; Division of Nephrology, Department of Medicine; and Department of Oral Biology, University of Florida, Gainesville, Florida, USA. OBJECTIVE: Anti-cyclic citrullinated peptide (CCP) antibodies are a serological marker for rheumatoid arthritis (RA); up to 10%-15% of patients with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) are also positive. While anti-CCP in RA is citrulline-dependen t, anti-CCP in some other diseases is citrulline-independ ent and reacts with both CCP and the unmodified (arginine-containin g) cyclic arginine peptide (CAP). We investigated the citrulline dependence of anti-CCP and its significance in the arthritis of SLE. METHODS: IgG anti-CCP was compared by ELISA to anti-CAP in sera from patients with SLE (n = 335) and RA (n = 47) and healthy controls (n = 35). SLE patients were divided into 5 groups based on their joint involvement: subset I: deforming/erosive arthritis (n = 20); II: arthritis fulfilling (or likely fulfilling) American College of Rheumatology criteria for RA but without erosions (n = 18); III: joint swelling but not fulfilling RA criteria (n = 39); IV: arthritis without documented joint swelling (n = 194); and V: no arthritis (n = 58). RESULTS: Anti-CCP (> 1.7 units) was found in 68% (32/47) of patients with RA and 17% (55/329) of those with SLE. It was more common in SLE patients with deforming/erosive arthritis (38%). High anti-CCP (> 10 units) was found in RA (26%) and deforming/erosive SLE (12%). High anti- CCP/CAP ratios (> 2, indicating a selectivity to CCP) were found in 91% of anti-CCP-positive RA and 50% of anti-CCP-positive SLE patients with deforming/erosive arthritis. Patients from subset II did not have high anti-CCP/CAP. CONCLUSION: Citrulline dependence or high levels (> 10) of anti-CCP were common in SLE patients with deforming/erosive arthritis, while most anti-CCP in SLE patients was citrulline-independ ent. This may be useful in identifying a subset of SLE patients with high risk for development of deforming/erosive arthritis. PMID: 19884269 http://www.ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/ pubmed/19884269 Not an MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Hi, . I'm not sure what you are asking. Could you rephrase your question? Not an MD On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:56 AM, (musiclvr) <musiclvr3237@...> wrote: > Good morning > I found this article very interesting this morning. No wonder I always felt so much worse after eating watermelon. I had to read about citrulline again at www.wikipedia.com. > I try to understand what the article is saying, but the more I read it, the more I become confused. It seems to me that ammonia, which has something to do with our liver, has something to do with RA. One sentence that sparks my interest read that patients with RA often have detectable antibodies against proteins containing citrulline. " against proteins " - I don't understand that. I also read about citrullination. If you or anyone in this group reads about this, I would be interested in knowing what you think. > Thank you and take care. > (musiclvr3237) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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