Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Hello everyone, This is my first post and to give you a quick overview of myself, I do not have MS but am in alternative medicine and have worked with many. I have had years of experience with bee venom therapy for MS and other therapies such as hydrogen peroxide and ozone etc. I know a cancer patient that has been diagnosed with MS 10 years ago and she now has stage 4 melanoma cancer past 3 years. I have seen a direct indicator with this person and many others with chronic inflammatory and immune system weaknesses by simply watching the lymphocyte and neutrophile counts and percentages on CBC blood work. The point is to see if you can follow a trend in your values over time that will show you what is working for you or not. This can help you decide what you should continue to do or possibly change to something that can help you. I have found that with MS most have a high percentage (above 65%) of the specific type of white blood cell called neutrophiles and an associated low percentage of lymphocytes (below 30%). I have discovered that by watching the proper balance of your lymphocyte white blood cell percentage and absolute lymphocyte count compared to your neutrophile percentage you can actually see a direct indication of your body's MS or cancer fighting ability. The normal percentage of lymphocytes in your blood should be 35% however when your immune system gets stressed and weakened your lymphocyte count will drop over time below 30%. This would not apply when an acute bacterial infection temporarily raises your neutrophile count lowering your lymphocyte percentage, only a chronic pattern of low lymphocyte count and percentage 30 or below would qualify. When MS or cancer is progressing, the lymphocyte percentage will almost always drop. When MS or cancer is reducing and the immune system is getting stronger, the lymphocyte percentage will always be increasing. It's quite simple to watch if you have your CBC lab results (with white blood cell differential). If a person does not have MS, cancer or other immune weaknesses I believe a correct level (35% and absolute count of 1.8 - 1.9) of lymphocytes can indicate you are not at a significant risk. Chemo, radiation and many other drug treatments for MS or cancer will typically lower the lymphocyte numbers, but in time they could come back. If your lymphocyte percentage is going downhill or below 30%, you should do something to bring it back up. I believe that if your count is raised above 30% your body will be actually be fighting the MS. If anyone else ever heard of watching the lymphocyte percentage like this regarding MS or cancer or heard of any study regarding the correlation of this number to MS development I would be interested and you can email me off list if you wish. I would encourage everyone to look at your own CBC WBC % counts and verify this. If you do not have a copy of your past lab work, you can simply contact your doctor and request a copy for your records. The great news about watching this is that with a simple blood test you can actually tell if what you are doing with your health program is being effective or not. I have seen the lymphocyte percentage raise as much as 8 percent in just one week of supporting your immune system properly. If your lymphocyte percent is below 10 you have a lot of hard work to do to bring it up, if it is in the 20's, you may be able to raise it into the 30's in several weeks. If you need to get the test done, simply ask your doctor if he would do a CBC with differential (commonly done to look for anemia or infection). If he will not or you do not have a doctor, and you are in the US, I do know of several doctors that would be able to fax- order the lab test for you and you can go into a lab in the city where you live to get it done (your lab cost is about $25-$50 for the test I believe but you will have to pay some for the doctors time to establish you as a patient). I would be interested if any of the alternative doctors in the group has any comments on this or if anyone would like to share your lab numbers if it matches what I am saying or not relating to remission or progression of the disease. Sincerely, Hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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