Aspartame

[Guest guest]

This is the worst time for you guys to be talking about diet soda. I have

not had any in almost 5 months. I'm going through withdrawals. will

be having a new sister at the end of Feb.

Maureen

[Guest guest]

This is the worst time for you guys to be talking about diet soda. I have

not had any in almost 5 months. I'm going through withdrawals. will

be having a new sister at the end of Feb.

Maureen

[Guest guest]

have you tried the diet cherry coke or the diet coke with lemon?

[Guest guest]

have you tried the diet cherry coke or the diet coke with lemon?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/4/01 3:09:20 PM Central Standard Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> have you tried the diet cherry coke or the diet coke with lemon?

>

>

>

>

Yes! I like diet cherry coke, haven't tried the lemon. I don't

drink it often but like it much better than regular coke. Jessie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/4/01 3:09:20 PM Central Standard Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> have you tried the diet cherry coke or the diet coke with lemon?

>

>

>

>

Yes! I like diet cherry coke, haven't tried the lemon. I don't

drink it often but like it much better than regular coke. Jessie

[Guest guest]

The lemon diet coke is WONDERFUL.........!!! Emileane

[Guest guest]

The lemon diet coke is WONDERFUL.........!!! Emileane

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/5/2001 11:25:35 AM Central Standard Time,

cristinastutler@... writes:

<< For those that can't give up their diet coke...diet rite cola doesn't have

any aspartame,

cristina (mom of Jack-15, Leigh-12, Tom-9 and -9 months, ds)

>>

oh that's right, it's sweetened with splenda.....but it also doesn't have

CAFFINE!!!

:-)

Joy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/5/2001 11:25:35 AM Central Standard Time,

cristinastutler@... writes:

<< For those that can't give up their diet coke...diet rite cola doesn't have

any aspartame,

cristina (mom of Jack-15, Leigh-12, Tom-9 and -9 months, ds)

>>

oh that's right, it's sweetened with splenda.....but it also doesn't have

CAFFINE!!!

:-)

Joy

[Guest guest]

I drink mainly water and my 1 cup of coffee in the a.m.

occasionally I'll have a Coke or milk.

Di, mom to Jake(18,nda) and 4 (DS)

Pennsylvania

Re: Re:Aspartame

and of course there are those of us who only drink soda or water. I don't

drink tea or coffee - only diet coke or water - -flavoured or natural. To my

knowledge I haven't done any damage to myself from drinking diet drinks - and

I've been drinking them for a lot of years now.

Allyson

[Guest guest]

I drink mainly water and my 1 cup of coffee in the a.m.

occasionally I'll have a Coke or milk.

Di, mom to Jake(18,nda) and 4 (DS)

Pennsylvania

Re: Re:Aspartame

and of course there are those of us who only drink soda or water. I don't

drink tea or coffee - only diet coke or water - -flavoured or natural. To my

knowledge I haven't done any damage to myself from drinking diet drinks - and

I've been drinking them for a lot of years now.

Allyson

[Guest guest]

For those that can't give up their diet coke...diet rite cola doesn't have

any aspartame,

cristina (mom of Jack-15, Leigh-12, Tom-9 and -9 months, ds)

>From: " Diane M Ferko " <drf218@...>

>< >

>Subject: Re: Re:Aspartame

>Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 10:54:24 -0500

>

>I drink mainly water and my 1 cup of coffee in the a.m.

>occasionally I'll have a Coke or milk.

>

>Di, mom to Jake(18,nda) and 4 (DS)

>Pennsylvania

> Re: Re:Aspartame

>

>

> and of course there are those of us who only drink soda or water. I

>don't

> drink tea or coffee - only diet coke or water - -flavoured or natural.

>To my

> knowledge I haven't done any damage to myself from drinking diet drinks

>- and

> I've been drinking them for a lot of years now.

>

> Allyson

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

For those that can't give up their diet coke...diet rite cola doesn't have

any aspartame,

cristina (mom of Jack-15, Leigh-12, Tom-9 and -9 months, ds)

>From: " Diane M Ferko " <drf218@...>

>< >

>Subject: Re: Re:Aspartame

>Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 10:54:24 -0500

>

>I drink mainly water and my 1 cup of coffee in the a.m.

>occasionally I'll have a Coke or milk.

>

>Di, mom to Jake(18,nda) and 4 (DS)

>Pennsylvania

> Re: Re:Aspartame

>

>

> and of course there are those of us who only drink soda or water. I

>don't

> drink tea or coffee - only diet coke or water - -flavoured or natural.

>To my

> knowledge I haven't done any damage to myself from drinking diet drinks

>- and

> I've been drinking them for a lot of years now.

>

> Allyson

>

>

>

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In a message dated 11/5/01 1:22:07 PM Central Standard Time,

JTesmer799@... writes:

> oh that's right, it's sweetened with splenda.....but it also doesn't have

> CAFFINE!!!

>

> :-)

>

> Joy

>

> Oh, that's no good then! What's the point? I wouldn't drink coffee if

> it didn't have caffeine. Why bother? Never could see decaffeinated

> coffee. When my mother first went into a nursing home that's all they

> served and she asked me if it had any coffee in it. Great recommendation.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/5/01 1:22:07 PM Central Standard Time,

JTesmer799@... writes:

> oh that's right, it's sweetened with splenda.....but it also doesn't have

> CAFFINE!!!

>

> :-)

>

> Joy

>

> Oh, that's no good then! What's the point? I wouldn't drink coffee if

> it didn't have caffeine. Why bother? Never could see decaffeinated

> coffee. When my mother first went into a nursing home that's all they

> served and she asked me if it had any coffee in it. Great recommendation.

>

[Guest guest]

You can go into coma from too much or too little sugar. I have had patients

who have come close on both ends of the spectrum. These parents were very

wrong not to have checked with a physician about their child's diet and put

him on something healthy and with adequate exercise. We can always tell

when is not getting enough exercise. He gets a tummy (like dad's) ;

Elaine

Re: Re:Aspartame

> We sometimes use diet pop and sometimes regular, but not in amounts

> like that. usually has one can a day, occasionally 2 and I drink

> only one or 2 a week. I don't think anyone should be drinking large

amounts

> of either kind. can't drink Coke or Dr. Pepper, there is

something

> in there that makes his stomach hurt. He can drink it occasionally, he

loves

> Dr. P. but not regularly. I don't know what it is, not caffeine, he has

> caffeine in other things, everyone assumes that's what it is. But I know

> it's not that. Whatever it is he just doesn't drink it. Jessie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can go into coma from too much or too little sugar. I have had patients

who have come close on both ends of the spectrum. These parents were very

wrong not to have checked with a physician about their child's diet and put

him on something healthy and with adequate exercise. We can always tell

when is not getting enough exercise. He gets a tummy (like dad's) ;

Elaine

Re: Re:Aspartame

> We sometimes use diet pop and sometimes regular, but not in amounts

> like that. usually has one can a day, occasionally 2 and I drink

> only one or 2 a week. I don't think anyone should be drinking large

amounts

> of either kind. can't drink Coke or Dr. Pepper, there is

something

> in there that makes his stomach hurt. He can drink it occasionally, he

loves

> Dr. P. but not regularly. I don't know what it is, not caffeine, he has

> caffeine in other things, everyone assumes that's what it is. But I know

> it's not that. Whatever it is he just doesn't drink it. Jessie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Arnold,

I have never been able to figure out how Aspartame ever got approved by the FDA. Sure I realize that Monsanto has Big Time political connections, Money, etc... but still there must be some sort of limit on what they can market but apparently there isn't. By the way has Aspartame ever been Banned in any other country????

----- Original Message -----

From: Arnold Gore

[Guest guest]

Here is a link for aspartame.....and it includes more

links on the page.

http://www.relfe.com/Aspartame_92.html

Dawn

--- Hilda Vosloo <bethesda@...> wrote:

> Some time ago somebody posted the whole journal

> thing on the aspartame issue. I kept it but lost is

> a month or so ago when my computer went on

> strike.... (sigh...)

>

> If someone has still got this, please repost it. I

> want to forward it to a friend who is just starting

> on the BTD. She has this yo-yo weight issue and has

> been on artificial sweeteners for years!

>

> Thanks!

>

> PS: where is ???

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I remember when they sent out all the little packets of gumballs

about 15 years ago. Then I heard a scary report on NPR about how it

wasn't fully tested before being released, folks getting weird

reactions, etc.

One summer shortly thereafter, I started consuming more products

with " it " , mostly beverages (Crystal light), gum, etc. Anyway, when I

got in the sun, I got rashes and weird bumps! It was weird. When I

stopped, they stopped. My experience. Avoid it!!

E Long

> Here is a link for aspartame.....and it includes more

> links on the page.

>

> http://www.relfe.com/Aspartame_92.html

>

> Dawn

[Guest guest]

A search on Google for " aspartame Senator bill " reveals Senator

Metzenbaum not Hertzenbaum,

although there is also just one site on the Google page I got up with

" Hetzenbaum " . According to one

site, Senator Metzenbaum of Ohio introduced a bill in August 1985

Aspartame Safety Act of 1985 " which required a moratorium on new uses of

aspartame until independent tests could be conducted " .

I am not able to verify the truth of this, but obviously since you have found

out Senator Hertzenbaum

does not exist, you will be able to verify the truth of this.

In a message dated 3/19/02 8:40:26 PM, urrican1@... writes:

>I've been reading from that site " The Doctor's Medical Library, " and found

>some interesting things there.

>http://www.medical-library.net/sites/framer.html?/sites/_index.html

>

>But one of the things I found was an article about aspartame poisoning,

>mentioning the bill introduced by " Senator Hertzenbaum. " There never

>has been a Senator named Hertzenbaum. Does anyone have any reliable

information

>about aspartame? (Something which mentions a bill by a fake senator does

>not impress me.) Or anything about the reliability of that site in general?

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

One of the better books on the aspartame blight is " Sweet Poison " by Janet

Hull PhD.

See www.sweetpoison.com.

- Art

[Health_and_Healing] Cancer, Chronic

> Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia Therapies

>

>

> -

>

http://www.21oxygen.com/default.htm#Bowel%20Disorders

> -

>

> Cancer

> The Oxidative Theory of Cancer Part One

> The dogma of drug medicine holds that cancer results

> from gene mutation, and assumes that once such

> mutation occurs, it is irreversible. This viewpoint

> is tragically erroneous. Here, I briefly describe my

> theory that cancer is caused by oxidative molecular

> damage.

> The Oxidative Theory of Cancer Part Two

> In the early part of the 20th century, Otto Warburg

> won the Nobel Prize for his studies that revealed

> that a cancer cell dislikes oxygen---is an

> " oxyphobe. " ...His findings provide the molecular

> basis of bio-oxidative therapies such as ozone

> hemotherapy and hyperbaric oxygen therapy.

> The Oxidative Theory of Cancer Part Three

> Cancer cells....produce prodigious amounts of

> hydrogen peroxide---one to two hundred times as much

> as is produced in non-cancer cells...

> The Oxidative Theory of Cancer Part Four

> Each cancer cell has the capacity for " normalizing "

> its behavior. What is the evidence for my

> viewpoint?...

> Immune Boosting after Chemotherapy

> Many people live in fear of cancer coming back after

> finishing chemotherapy. That is understandable for

> two reasons: First, what caused cancer the first

> time can also strike back....Second, chemotherapy

> weakens the immune system and so makes the person

> more vulnerable.

> Are the Chinese Slaying the Cancer Dragon

> I have a theory that cancer is caused by oxidative

> molecular damage. Such damage may involve some genes

> - the so-called oncogenes - or possibly, and more

> frequently, the non-genetic cell innards such as

> enzymes and other proteins....

> Saying No To Chemotherapy

> Surgery, radiation and chemotherapy were considered

> scientifically proven, effective therapies. The

> physician's word was gospel, and there was no room

> for doubt. Decisions about cancer therapies were

> easy precisely because there was no choice...

> Spontaneous Remission of Cancer

> In medical terminology, spontaneous remission of

> cancer refers to exceptional and unexplained partial

> or complete disappearance of cancer without medical

> intervention.

>

> Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

> Is There an Alternative to Antibiotics, Should

> There Be One?

> The prevailing mode of drug medicine creates fatigue

> in two effective ways: First, at the slightest

> prompting, it feeds little babies broad-spectrum

> antibiotics.... Second, it actively withholds from

> the sick effective, non-drug nutritional and

> environmental therapies...

> Exercise For Chronic Fatigue

> ...In tears, Jackie told me of her struggle to pull

> herself out of her debilitating fatigue with heroic

> efforts to exercise even when it caused severe

> pain...

> Name tag diagnosis for CFS

> People who suffer from chronic fatigue describe

> their suffering in many ways. Physicians who treat

> chronic fatigue with drugs use many names for it.

> Physicians who have written about chronic fatigue

> have been a creative lot.

> The Oxidative Theory of Chronic Fatigue

> That is what severe fatigue is. It is lacerated cell

> membranes. It is violated cell innards. It is the

> hemorrhage of magnesium and potassium. It is

> mitochondrial enzymes within the cells drowning in a

> calcium flood.

> Hypothesis: Chronic Fatigue and Accelerated

> Oxidative Stress

> Peer Reviewed Article.

> The Mighty Mitochondria

> As sources of cellular energy, mitochondria were

> recognized almost one hundred years ago. In the

> past, these cellular organelles were of interest

> only to the students of biology. The pandemic of the

> chronic fatigue syndrome, it seems to me, will

> change this.

> Read Chapter 1 From The Canary and Chronic Fatigue

> Dr. Ali's introduction into understanding the

> non-drug reversal philosophy of Chronic Fatigue

> Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

> For years, most physicians dismissed chronic fatigue

> syndrome (CFS) as an all-in-the-head problem. And

> most victims of CFS suffered the indignity of being

> told that they were hypochondriacs, and that they

> merely imagined their three main symptoms: 1)

> disabling fatigue; 2) persistent muscle and joint

> pain. 3) severe problems of brain fog, irritability

> and depression.

> 18 Food Guidelines

> The 18 recommendations that Dr. Majid Ali makes to

> his " human canaries " (people who suffer from Chronic

> Fatigue Syndrome).

>

> Fibromyalgia

> Positive Results Achieved in 150 Fibromyalgia

> Patients

> The data in this clinical outcome study document the

> efficacy of the

> ecologic-integrative management protocols used in

> reversing fibromyalgia (excellent or good outcome in

> 84.7%).

> Trigger Points in Fibromyalgia

> I do not know of many safe therapies that work as

> well and for as many people as injections of ten to

> 15 drops of 50% glucose solution into trigger points

> (TP)

> Three Fibro Furies

> Dr. Ali calls oxidosis, dysoxygenosis, and acidosis

> the three furies of fibromyalgia ( " the fibro

> furies " ) after the three evil Furies of Greek

> mythology. Like the Greek Furies, each fibro fury

> has a killing mission. Each is unrelenting in its

> pursuit...paralyzing all energy,

> digestive-absorptive, detox, and neurotransmitter

> enzymes of the body.

> Tired Children, Teenagers in Pain

> " A parent can ignore a child's unexplained tiredness

> only at peril. To blame a teenager's muscle pain

> (myalgia) on hormones is often a serious mistake.

> For a doctor to dismiss tired children and teenagers

> in pain simply because lab tests are negative is a

> grave error.... "

> A Snapshot of Fibromyalgia

> Fibromyalgia (FM) is often considered a medical

> mystery. Dr. Ali gives his explanations as to What

> is fibromyalgia?

> Simple Scientific Explanations of the Causes of

> Fibromyalgia

> Majid Ali, M.D. explains Three Sets of Causes of

> Fibromyalgia, 1. Metabolic oxidants; 2. Microbial

> oxidants; 3.Man-made oxidants (Oxidants are

> substances that damage tissues.). Three Molecular

> Mechanisms of Fibromyalgia 1. Oxidosis (too much

> oxidation); 2. Dysoxygenosis (too little oxygen);

> 3. Acidosis (too much acidity) (Oxidosis is rapid

> breakdown. Dysoxygenosis [dys-oxy-gen-osis] is

> abnormal oxygen metabolism.)

> C.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the good reference. Dr Jim Bowen

--- " A. C. Brown " <abrown101@...> wrote:

> Hi all,

>

> One of the better books on the aspartame blight is

> " Sweet Poison " by Janet

> Hull PhD.

>

> See www.sweetpoison.com.

>

> - Art

>

>

> Re: [ ] Cancer, Chronic Fatigue

> Syndrome, Fibromyalgia

> Therapies

>

>

> Dr Jim Bowen's book attached. Also posted on

> www.dorway.com as " Billions of Victims "

>

> Billions of people are now Aspartame victims or

> their

> friends. Individual answers to questions are now an

> impossible approach. The following article is meant

> to fill in that gap, to meet that need. As you read

> it you will master the medical knowledge you need to

> cope in a correctly intuitive manner. You also will

> painlessly gain the experience you need, vicariously

> as you follow me down the river of discovery. I am

> like a beat up, exhausted old salmon with propeller

> slashes from the political powerboats, gnashes from

> predators, battered from pounding against the rocks

> while jumping cataracts, and exhausted from swimming

> all the way up to this spawning ground against the

> current. So jump in your armchair. You will lunch

> upon the fruit of " the tree of knowledge of good and

> evil " (Genesis 2:17 and 3:1-22) and your eyes will

> be

> opened as we journey down stream. Hopefully this

> may

> become a " river of life " for you (Revelation

> 22:1-2).

> May you find healing in the " tree of life. " (Gen

> 2:9

> and 3:1-22). If you find the following article

> helpful, please help me spread it to any you may be

> able.

>

> " CHz " --What you need to know about Chemical

> Hypersensitivity disease: (CHz = Multiple

> Sensitivities, Poly Chemical Sensitivity, Persian

> Gulf

> Syndrome, etc.) "

>

> Because of your and/or your forbearers exposure to

> toxics like Aspartame, a summation of immune,

> mitochondrial, DNA, and MtDNA (genetic) damage has

> occurred in your body that has made your body unable

> to deal with chemical insults so slight that they

> might not even be noticed by others. With the

> lessening of mitochondrial competency, free radicals

> are produced, and the release of damaging combustion

> products into the cell occurs, causing exaggerated

> cellular reactivity and cellular damages from

> concentrations of substances that you would never

> even

> have noticed before. You have become " hyper

> sensitized. " Now, even millions of times less a

> concentration of the same chemical exposures that

> didn't bother you at all before, will cause severe

> health damaging reactions, and autoimmune disease.

> The

> activation of mast cells and basophiles, and other

> pro-inflammatory immune mechanisms can really set

> your

> health problems off.

>

> This phenomenon tends to spread incrementally

> because

> it is a vicious circle type phenomenon. The more

> damage, the less the metabolic and genetic

> competence,

> as a direct result of the DNA and RNA, Mt DNA and,

> mitochondrial damage to the organism:

> The more free radical formation and inappropriate

> release of abnormal metabolites occurs within and

> beyond the " mitochondria. " (The little " energy

> furnaces " within the cell that carry out certain

> otherwise dangerously energy loaded processes safely

> for the cell). This leads to more cellular

> compromise. In addition, specific features of a

> given chemical may incite damage. E.g., Benzoates

> directly stimulate the metabolism of the mast cells

> and basophiles making them more likely to fire off

> an

> inflammatory autoimmune response. It only makes

> sense

> that for a preservative to " preserve " anything it

> has

> to rapidly kill everything that has life or

> metabolism

> in it at very low doses. Such a compound cannot be

> very friendly to human tissue. In bread, for

> instance: I find vinegar (acetic acid), or calcium

> propionate harmless for me, but all other

> preservatives are harmful. Denatured human tissue

> itself causes massive immune disorientation.

>

> Consider separately now the immune system. When it

> encounters your protein (cells, sub cellular

> structures, and substrates such as the myelin sheath

> or joint cartilage etc.), denatured by things like

> the

> formaldehyde, and formic acid from Aspartame, and

> tissue damaged/denatured by the deranged processes

> mentioned in the first paragraph, it is highly

> likely

> to view it as foreign. This makes your bodies own

> tissues subject to immune attack. The false

> memories

> induced in your immune system are life long, leading

> to an accumulation of various forms of autoimmunity.

> Some are very destructive. E.g., Lupus, neuro

> degenerative diseases, inflammatory arthritis, et

> al,

> to the point that the FDA had 92 different reactions

> to Aspartame categorized until they quit

> acknowledging

> anything and then stone walled the public, refusing

> to

> even acknowledge the health problems reported to

> them.

> Since marketing, 85% of all complaints are about

> Aspartame alone,

> of all the 100,000 licensed by FDA! Once poisoned

> by

> Aspartame, it is a secure fact that the person will

> be

> somewhere well down the road of hypersensitivity,

> and

> autoimmunity with those even creating initial

> presenting symptoms.

>

> Now that you know the ballpark, how do you try to

> win

> back as much of your health as possible? How to

> prevent, to the greatest extent possible, further

> degradation of your body's health, and " well being " ?

> The mainstays that you will have to adopt are as

> follows: You must now become your own doctor,

> listening very carefully to your body and trying to

> make sense of what's going on. Study what things

> work

> for yourself and others, and try them out, again

> listening very carefully to your body. Become the

> gatekeeper of your body, practicing strict avoidance

> of ingested and environmental chemicals. Even

> caffeine promotes free radicals. You cannot at all

> believe that governmental or corporate integrity

> offers you any protection. They simply no longer

> exist.

> That means if anything comes ready prepared in a

> can,

> bottle, box, or bag' it is unsafe for you. You need

> to buy organic and cook from scratch, in so far as

> possible. Avoid even mixes like cocoa mix, etc.

> They

> have tried to give chemicals, even the horribly

> damaging diketopiperazine of Aspartame, safe

> sounding

> names like " natural flavoring, vegetable protein,

> lo-cal, lo fat, lite, lo salt, robust cheese flavor,

> and lo fat cheese flavor " . -The list is endless-!

> Environmental contaminants are also a severe hazard;

> plastics, new plastics, plastic bottled water,

> building materials, industrial releases and fumes,

> contaminated water, " sick " houses and environments

> are

> often very damaging to you. Even sitting in front

> of

> a new computer, as the new plastics " off gas, " is

> terrible for me. Most makes of automobiles after

> '83

> are suspect. Ford remained " clean " until '89, when

> they added polyurethanes and thioisocyanates to

> their

> products. They had five unexplained deaths, on the

> floor of their River Rouge plant alone, that first

> season!

>

> Once you are hyper sensitized, noxious substances

> from

> nature: pollens, fungal blooms dusts mites, danders,

> etc. now cause major flares of disease. Even

> atmospheric positive ionization zones from buildings

> or nature, such as the full moon or foehn, " Santa

> Ana "

> winds, or just living in a neighbor hood or region

>

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[Guest guest]

I think that even if there's a " potential " for long term health

problems, everyone should be at least have some caution when

taking/using something until all studies are complete.

Love,

and Jerry