Guest guest Posted October 15, 1999 Report Share Posted October 15, 1999 Anyone else know if anemia is typical with PA or RA? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 1999 Report Share Posted October 16, 1999 Anemia is typical with both. Both as a result of the disease and as a result of some of the meds we take. For instance methotrexate can cause bone marrow supresssion in my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 1999 Report Share Posted October 16, 1999 , I am terribly anemic. My tendency is to be anemic anyway, but since I take Arava and MTX, well, it's a regular fact of life for me. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 AnemiaHave they tested to determine if it is iron-deficiency anemia or the anemia of chronic disease? I have had good results quickly with taking iron for deficiency anemia, but understand that the ACD type is harder to treat and reflects that the underlying disease process/inflammation is still ongoing. B vitamin deficiencies can also contribute to anemia, have they tested for those? Especially folic acid if you are planning to be a mom.... Liz G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 I must have anemia of chronic disease, since I have been taking 100mg of iron and sublingual B12(2500mg) with folic acid (100mg) per day for about a year. My ferritin continues to hang at just above the low normal(10), though all my other bloodwork is pretty much normal. Thanks for your reply. Sue Re: rheumatic Anemia AnemiaHave they tested to determine if it is iron-deficiency anemia or the anemia of chronic disease? I have had good results quickly with taking iron for deficiency anemia, but understand that the ACD type is harder to treat and reflects that the underlying disease process/inflammation is still ongoing. B vitamin deficiencies can also contribute to anemia, have they tested for those? Especially folic acid if you are planning to be a mom.... Liz G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 Sue, the following is a previous post on anemia I saved. I blocked out the name, but the message number is at the bottom so you can find it. bg Saved post begins: [The lady posting here is a nurse. ] From: xxxxxxxxxx Date: Tue Jun 26, 2001 8:48 am Subject: anemia Hi everybody! Hope everyone is having a pain free day. Just a little background-I had iron deficiency anemia. The first sign was extreme tiredness and swollen achy tongue. I saw a doctor then a specialist who diagnosed IDA. You can get the swollen achy tngue with Iron Deficiency anemia as well as Pernicious Anemia. I was negative for Pernicious. IDA is much more common too. After having IDA for 7 months, my iron stores had dropped as well as my hemoglobin. That's when I started having concentration problems and fainting problems due to the lack of oxygen to my brain. Also extreme irritability which is sooo unlike me! . From there, it was down hill. I had never tried herbs before and did not even believe in them. Out of desperation, I picked up a book that talked about blood disorders. It suggested natural treatments were more effective and I read with interest. Black Strap Molassess is good especially for children. I could not stomach the stuff though. However the first choice of treatment by this doctors standards was yellow dock root. The yellow dock plant has roots that grow very deep and thus it is rch in natural minerals and especially iron! Ferrous sulfate (prescription iron) is absorbed by the body in the 30 percentile range compared to Yellow Dock which is absorbed by the body in the 80 percentile range. In other words, it is broken down to its most natural state so it is more readily absorbed by the body. I found a product by Nature's Herbs, a division of Twinlab, and it is called POWER HERBS " Blood Bosters " They make a whole line of Power Herbs but you need to get the blood boosters formula. It has alfalfa in it, yellow dock, lots of blood purifiers, blood cleansers, cleaners, and blood boosters that boost the production of red blood cells. Best of all, it was only $8.99 for a months supply. I had completely recovered within 6 months after 2 years of shots and hard iron pills. It really amazed my doctor. I have been using herbs ever since! I think both prescriptions and herbal medicines have their place in treating diseases! Now when people say herbs are a waste of money, I just smile. One day in despiration, they'll try them and be surprised! ~xxxxxxxxxxxx~ Message 23643 of 23645 > All, > > The other issue I'd like to combat before getting pregnant is my anemia. > This was the last thing to hit me and will be the last to go. Has anyone > had any luck combatting this? > > Thanks, > > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 RE: rheumatic Anemia >> My ferritin continues to hang at just above the low normal(10), I thought ferritin went up with ACD? Have to refresh my memory on that. The reason I am focusing on this distinction is that the treatment of ACD is disease/inflammation control, not simply iron supplementation. Sufficient iron is there in ACD, but the process of using it to rebuild red blood cells is disturbed, if I recall correctly. Anemia has been an off-and-on concern for me also, which reminds me.....it has been some time since my doc ordered routine blood tests, have to get on him about that. I showed some slight anemia last time. Liz G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2002 Report Share Posted December 3, 2002 I have Waldenstrom's, anemia, low RBC, test for IGM to find out. lin Colletta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 marianne try wheat grass thrapy i have known of many cases where its helped though an unbiased view point is available here http://www.ncahf.org/articles/s-z/wheatgrass.html regards aashish --- Kinney2@... wrote: > Does anybody has a suggestion about what to take for > severe anemia, also > what does it mean when you're body is producing high > levels of carbon > dioxide. > nne > > ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 what does it mean when you're body is producing high levels of carbon dioxide. nne the simple answer: Indigestion is caused by an excess of acid in the stomach. The acid involved is a weak form of hydrochloric acid (HCl). To neutralice this acid a base is needed. All indigestion remedies contain bases. These include calcium carbonate, magnesium hydroxide and sodium hyrogencarbonate. All acid base reactions give you salt and water. Some also give carbon dioxide causing you to burp! A more detailed answer: Alkaline Water and Stomach Acid by Sang Whang Among the people who question the validity of alkaline water, the biggest question is, " What happens to the alkaline water once it reaches the stomach, which is highly acidic? " People who have some knowledge of the human body, including medical doctors, ask this question. Let me answer that question once and for all to erase any doubts about the health benefits of alkaline water. In order to digest food and kill the kinds of bacteria and viruses that come with the food, the inside of our stomach is acidic. The stomach pH value is maintained at around 4. When we eat food and drink water, especially alkaline water, the pH value inside the stomach goes up. When this happens, there is a feedback mechanism in our stomach to detect this and commands the stomach wall to secrete more hydrochloric acid into the stomach to bring the pH value back to 4. So the stomach becomes acidic again. When we drink more alkaline water, more hydrochloric acid is secreted to maintain the stomach pH value. It seems like a losing battle. However, when you understand how the stomach wall makes hydrochloric acid, your concerns will disappear. A pathologist friend of mine gave me the following explanation. There is no hydrochloric acid pouch in our body. If there were, it would burn a hole in our body. The cells in our stomach wall must produce it on an instantly-as-needed basis. The ingredients in the stomach cell that make hydrochloric acid (HCl) are carbon dioxide (CO2), water (H2O), and sodium chloride (NaCl) or potassium chloride (KCl). NaCl + H2O + CO2 = HCl + NaHCO3, or KCl + H2O + CO2 = HCl + KHCO3 As we can see, the byproduct of making hydrochloric acid is sodium bicarbonate (NaHCO3) or potassium bicarbonate (KHCO3), which goes into blood stream. These bicarbonates are the alkaline buffers that neutralize excess acids in the blood; they dissolve solid acid wastes into liquid form. As they neutralize the solid acidic wastes, extra carbon dioxide is released, which is discharged through the lungs. As our body gets old, these alkaline buffers get low; this phenomenon is called acidosis. This is a natural occurrence as our body accumulates more acidic waste products. There is, therefore, a relationship between the aging process and the accumulation of acids. By looking at the pH value of the stomach alone, it seems that alkaline water never reaches the body. But when you look at the whole body, there is a net gain of alkalinity as we drink alkaline water. Our body cells are slightly alkaline. In order for them to produce acid, they must also produce alkaline, and vice versa; just as a water ionizer cannot produce alkaline water without producing acid water, since tap water is almost neutral. When the stomach pH value gets higher than 4, the stomach knows what to do to lower it. However, if the pH value goes below 4, for any reason, the stomach doesn't know what to do. That's why we take Alka-Seltzer, which is alkaline, to relieve acidic stomach gas pain. In this case, hydrochloric acid is not produced by the stomach wall, therefore, no alkaline buffer is being added to the blood stream. Let me give you another example of a body organ that produces acid in order to produce alkaline. After the food in the stomach is digested, it must come out to the small intestine. The food at this point is so acidic that it will damage the intestine wall. In order to avoid this problem, the pancreas makes alkaline juice (known as pancreatic juice). This juice is sodium bicarbonate, and is mixed with the acidic food coming out of the stomach. From the above formulae, in order to produce bicarbonates, the pancreas must make hydrochloric acid, which goes into our blood stream. We experience sleepiness after a big meal (not during the meal or while the food is being digested in the stomach), when the digested food is coming out of the stomach; that's the time when hydrochloric acid goes into our blood. Hydrochloric acid is the main ingredient in antihistamines and that is what causes drowsiness. Alkaline or acid produced by the body must have an equal and opposite acid or alkaline produced by the body; therefore, there is no net gain. However, alkaline supplied from outside the body, like drinking alkaline water, results in a net gain of alkalinity in our body. Copyright 1997 by Sang Whang Enterprises, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Tests have shown me to be slightly anemic since even before I was diagnosed about a year ago. I have read that anemia is one of the symptoms of RA. No one has suggested taking iron pills. Are any of you being treated for anemia? dd **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2\ F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Hi there, Yes, that would be me. But I can't take iron pills they do nothing for me. When it's time for iron, I have to have it by IV. One day a week. First IV benadryl, then IV decadron (ick) then the iron. This continues for 3 weeks. I am usually good for about a year and a half. Heidi in Mass. _ In a message dated 3/11/2009 5:56:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dgd301@... writes: Tests have shown me to be slightly anemic since even before I was diagnosed about a year ago. I have read that anemia is one of the symptoms of RA. No one has suggested taking iron pills. Are any of you being treated for anemia? dd ************************<WBR>**A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See your steps! ( _ (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/barackobam409128.html) _http://pr.atwola.http://pr.atwhttp://pr.atwolahttp://pr.atwolahttp://pr.http://\ prhttp: //pr.atwolahttp://pr.ahttp://pr.atwolhttp://pr.http://prhttp://p_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/ 100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/def\ ault.aspx?sc=668072 & hmpgID) _ %3D62%26bcd%%3D62%26bcd%<WBR%3D62 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _ (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/barackobam409128.html) **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I was anemic in the past, due to a bleeding ulcer caused by Aleve. I took prescription iron, and gradually got over the anemia. Sue On Mar 11, 2009, at 5:56 PM, dgd301@... wrote: > Tests have shown me to be slightly anemic since even before I was > diagnosed > about a year ago. I have read that anemia is one of the symptoms of > RA. No one > has suggested taking iron pills. > > Are any of you being treated for anemia? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I have had anemia for awhile now and take iron supplements and get B12 shots when i go into the docs. Joy dgd301@... wrote: Tests have shown me to be slightly anemic since even before I was diagnosed about a year ago. I have read that anemia is one of the symptoms of RA. No one has suggested taking iron pills. Are any of you being treated for anemia? dd **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2\ F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 In a message dated 3/11/2009 6:14:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sposy@... writes: Welcome! yes, it's a process, I'm tested every 3 months. He even looks at my fingernails and toenails. Summer time is more difficult (for him) as that's when they get polished! usually if there are white spots, i'm low in iron. If your hair starts splitting that's another sign, and an increase of chewing ice cubes....but i've always done that so I could never count on that one. How are you feeling otherwise?>> Well, I have a lot of fatigue -- but I have RA, a history of Crohn's with some inflammation now, hyperthyroid and slight anemia. So it could be caused by any of them. dd **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2\ F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 My Dr says anemia is very common with PsA. My anemia is so bad that I have to have iron infusions every 2 weeks. It's not bad and I feel so much better after the infusion. Keep an eye on it and if it gets bad enough ask about iron infusions. Hope that helps, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Ive been anemic for as long as I can remember. I take my regular multivitamin along with an iron pill at dinner. I also make sure to eat lots of tomatoes.. They are supposed to help your body absorb the iron. Cheryl <bromitesgirl@...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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