Guest guest Posted January 3, 1999 Report Share Posted January 3, 1999 You have come to the right place for help and advice. Tim. [ ] NEW MEMBER My child has just been diagnosed with autism. He's 4 yrs of age and non-verbal.I had him immediately after college and nothing could have prepared me for this. I cannot stress enough how fine I thought things were. Good education, good job, first baby and a loving partner then one day my life changed forever. I have since opted to be a stay-at-home mom.I am one of those people who had not heard of autism until it struck me and for a while I thought I would not live again. I met a mother yesterday at a theraphy class and she refered me to your group. I've been reading the posts and I cannot tell you how encouraging it is to hear what others say. My son is not on wheat/dairy free meals. I've read a lot of posts on supplements any suggestions on what I could start him on?. I hope to hear from you all. Edna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 1999 Report Share Posted July 10, 1999 Hi Sharon, Welcome to the list, so sorry to hear that you and your children have been sick for so long with this damned disease. Hunterdon County, NJ is one of the worst areas in the state with high incidence of Lyme and other tick-borne disorders. Someone told me there was no support group in that county.....is that true? I will try to answer your questions, but they are only my opinion, as you know, no one really knows the real answers about this disease. Questions: How long do we need to stay on these drugs? Answer: My Lyme doctor and others I have read state you should stay on abx until you are two months without symptoms. How accurate is the Lyme Urine Antigen Test from Igenex? Answer: I have never had one, I hear that many people feel it is a good indication that one has Lyme disease as the test measures dead spirochetes in the urine. I am not sure if the MIGHTY INSURANCE COMPANIES agree though. Can you explain in Lyme brain terms how it works? I hope someone else will explain the test since I never had it, but I believe the Igenex web site has a good explanation. http://www.igenex.com/ Has anyone pulsed their oral drugs? I pulsed IV. I have never pulsed my oral meds, but I know many have, hopefully someone who has will respond to you. Is anyone out there well over 3 years without relapse? Has anyone tried Flagyl with success? I don't know of anyone who has gone three years without a relapse, and I am doubtful there if anyone on this list will be able to respond positively to that one either, if they weren't still sick, they'd be spending their time doing fun things. But I am sure there are some people who have gone on to be cured of their Lyme disease, so do not lose hope. The jury is still out on Flagyl, some respond to it, while others do not....another one I haven't tried myself. I am sorry I could not answer all your questions, you must admit they were hard ones, I hope you enjoy the list. Best to you, Marta (NJ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 1999 Report Share Posted July 10, 1999 In a message dated 7/10/99 5:59:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mlmccoy@... writes: << Is anyone out there well over 3 years without relapse? Has anyone tried Flagyl with success? >> I functioned for 5 years without a relaspes. Due to working too many hours I reasped last July. I hope this time to get better and never have a relaspes again!!! People with Lyme have to take care of themselves. Feel better, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 1999 Report Share Posted July 10, 1999 So true..if you wear yourself down the symptoms reoccur!!!!!Has anyone had that happen to them???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 1999 Report Share Posted July 10, 1999 Yes, the same thing happened to my daughter more that once...stress and not enough rest would cause a relapse...she's doing well now, but I always remind her about getting enough rest...hard for an 18 yr. old to do! Joan LI, NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 1999 Report Share Posted August 17, 1999 What I have come across is the herb astragalus/Huang Qi. It helps your immune system, and it increases the rate of survival in chemotherapy. There have been Chinese studies showing this. It is my opinion that what helps your immune system helps against cancer. If you search under www.dogpile.com (no joke), it will give a number of sources that talk about astragalus. My M.D./homeopathic doctor recommended it to me for my sinuses that have been infected for a year and a half. It works well, and is supposed to pretty safe, but do not take it when you have a fever. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 1999 Report Share Posted August 17, 1999 Sharon, There are a couple good books about cancer and natural ways to beat it. The book by W. Diamond " The Definitive Guide to Cancer " , and Hulda s " The Cure of All Cancers " . This should help get you started. My husband is fighting melanoma and we have done all alternative. The only conventional thing we tried was a vaccine. He's been fighting it now for 2 1/2 years. We have done juicing fresh fruit and vegetables, we do ozone, rife, organic diet, laetril(vitamin b17), a bunch of herbs and amino acids and vitamins. About 6 weeks ago he had 2 root canals removed, because I had talk to many MD's that were naturalpath doctors as well. They told me until we treated his root canals, he was not going to heal. When we had the root canals removed, they were infected. He also had all 8 silver filing removed. He was also toxic with mercury and is getting chelation for the removal of it. The doctors just told us yesterday that his cancer is stable and doesn't appear to be growing. These two books should get you started. If you have any question feel free to e-mail me directly if you want. Margie margie.f.bander@... [ ] New Member From: SnottyKat@... Hi Everyone, My name is Sharon. Last August my 68 (then 67) year old mother discovered a rather large lump in her left breast. She has been afraid of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't check her breasts. We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them without fear. We went to see a Naturopathic doctor up in Canada. He said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as such. He " treated " her for many months. Finally some time in May after the lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor and get this diagnosed ASAP. He said that cancer can spread so fast, that my mom could be die from waiting so long. She agreed to go to a conventional doctor. It was cancerous. She had surgery to have the breast removed. A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under him). Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to prevent further cancer. All of her nodes were positive. She had cat scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable spot on her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she does not know of ever having these) or it could be a spot of cancer. I guess it is in the area where cancer would settle. The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a recurrance by 30 percent. She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her doctor). We went to see the half holistic/ half conventional doctor today. He recommends the Tamoxifen. I told him about a book that I " ve been reading called " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause " by Dr. Lee. It is an amazing book. It gives so much info on how natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural to make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. Reading this book has really gotten me upset. It's all about money. Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because there is big money in allopathic medicine. And I believe that a lot of doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's why he recommends the Tamoxifen. I don't like the idea of the Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at least have her try some alternative therapy in conjunction with it. Part of me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long and may not have much time to play with. I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her to beat it. I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... also links to websites. I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. Lorraine Day (my mom's name is Lorraine). I'd appreciate the URL to the site if someone could provide it. I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. Does anyone know about natural progesterone cream? The book that I mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low progesterone levels. From what the book says, I thinks it's possible that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I just dont' know enough about it to make that type of decision. I asked her doctor today and he didn't know if it would help her. He did refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a conventional doctor. The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a believer in holistic at all. He will discuss them, but only basically to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. Thanks for any info that anyone can provide. I'd really like to speak with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own breast cancer. Warm Regards, Sharon --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 1999 Report Share Posted August 17, 1999 Hi Margie, There is one good source of info that may be extremely helpful to many people. It is from Dr.Johanna Budwig, perhaps Germany`s most outstanding scientist today. Her whole approach is a simple one to follow and is based on getting into the body what is needed for the immune system to do its job and above all understanding what has happened to our food chain manufacturing and distribution approaches these last fifty years. This is done by explaining what must be eliminated in our diet and what must be included immediately to reverse the effects of unhealthy foods, that are causing so much misery, including the life threatening dideases of arthritis, heart problems and cancer, among others. She has advocated Flax Seed oil(exceptionally good oil),mixed with low fat cottage cheeses (protein) and a bit of honey. Anyone can follow it for such a small amount of money. She has cured many people who were " given up " by doctors as hopeless and her diet has snatched people some of these people from Death`s Doorstep. The regimen is easy to follow and this lady has been repeatedly nominated for the Nobel Prize. Her outspoken views are a great credit to her integrity and honesty in science and as a humanitarian. Check her out. Two of her eleven books have been translated from the German and are now available at & Noble, Amazon Books, etc.,and perhaps some health food stores. Regards, Mike Cinelli =============================================================================== At 09:13 AM 8/17/99 -0500, you wrote: >From: " BANDER, MARGIE F " <MARGIE.F.BANDER@...> > >Sharon, > >There are a couple good books about cancer and natural ways to beat it. The >book by W. Diamond " The Definitive Guide to Cancer " , and Hulda s > " The Cure of All Cancers " . This should help get you started. My husband is >fighting melanoma and we have done all alternative. The only conventional >thing we tried was a vaccine. He's been fighting it now for 2 1/2 years. >We have done juicing fresh fruit and vegetables, we do ozone, rife, organic >diet, laetril(vitamin b17), a bunch of herbs and amino acids and vitamins. >About 6 weeks ago he had 2 root canals removed, because I had talk to many >MD's that were naturalpath doctors as well. They told me until we treated >his root canals, he was not going to heal. When we had the root canals >removed, they were infected. He also had all 8 silver filing removed. He >was also toxic with mercury and is getting chelation for the removal of it. >The doctors just told us yesterday that his cancer is stable and doesn't >appear to be growing. These two books should get you started. If you have >any question feel free to e-mail me directly if you want. > >Margie >margie.f.bander@... > > [ ] New Member > > >From: SnottyKat@... > >Hi Everyone, > >My name is Sharon. Last August my 68 (then 67) year old mother >discovered a rather large lump in her left breast. She has been afraid >of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't check >her breasts. > >We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them >without fear. We went to see a Naturopathic doctor up in Canada. He >said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as such. >He " treated " her for many months. Finally some time in May after the >lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my >brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. > >His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor and >get this diagnosed ASAP. He said that cancer can spread so fast, that >my mom could be die from waiting so long. > >She agreed to go to a conventional doctor. It was cancerous. She had >surgery to have the breast removed. > >A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who >also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under >him). > >Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to >prevent further cancer. All of her nodes were positive. She had cat >scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable spot on >her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she does not >know of ever having these) or it could be a spot of cancer. I guess it >is in the area where cancer would settle. > >The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a >recurrance by 30 percent. She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance >without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her >doctor). > >We went to see the half holistic/ half conventional doctor today. He >recommends the Tamoxifen. I told him about a book that I " ve been >reading called " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause " by >Dr. Lee. It is an amazing book. It gives so much info on how >natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make >money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural to >make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. > >Reading this book has really gotten me upset. It's all about money. >Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because >there is big money in allopathic medicine. And I believe that a lot of >doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. > >Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that >nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's >why he recommends the Tamoxifen. I don't like the idea of the >Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at least >have her try some alternative therapy in conjunction with it. Part of >me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long >and may not have much time to play with. > >I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her >to beat it. > >I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... >also links to websites. I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. >Lorraine Day (my mom's name is Lorraine). I'd appreciate the URL to >the site if someone could provide it. > >I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. > >Does anyone know about natural progesterone cream? The book that I >mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low >progesterone levels. From what the book says, I thinks it's possible >that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I >just dont' know enough about it to make that type of decision. I asked >her doctor today and he didn't know if it would help her. He did >refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a >conventional doctor. The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a >believer in holistic at all. He will discuss them, but only basically >to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. >Thanks for any info that anyone can provide. I'd really like to speak >with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own >breast cancer. > >Warm Regards, > >Sharon > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 1999 Report Share Posted August 18, 1999 Hi Sharon I've come across a top research doctor that has worked with cancer. He spoke in April in Pennsylvania to some of the country's top oncologists. The initial clinical study began with breast cancer and they continue to document the progress both old and new cancer patients have made. In my fight with cancer, the product studied made a major difference in my life. My local dr. said he was baffled at what he saw, after using it for a small period of time. I just heard from a woman who has breast cancer, used a regimen recommended by this dr. and is seeing positive progress with her cancer. I would be glad to give more information if you are interested. There is an abstract for his presentation in PA as well on the cancer research his team did. I have heard of more than one instance where someone's cancer in the later stages, not long to live and the SelGuard combined with some of the products he recommended in their individual regimens turned things around and they saw their cancer cell markers go down with each lab report. The dr.'s been busy, hundreds of phone calls since he spoke, but I have been able to get in touch with his assistant who relays the message to him, and gets back to me and possibly you can connect with him directly. Let me know if you would like information. Hope I can be of help. I really appreciated the hope I was given. H. PS I forgot to mention that these nutraceuticals also work with prevention. There have also been studies about that aspect. Also the SelGuard is all natural, kills the cancer cells, not the good ones and is non-toxic with no side effects. [ ] New Member From: SnottyKat@... Hi Everyone, My name is Sharon. Last August my 68 (then 67) year old mother discovered a rather large lump in her left breast. She has been afraid of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't check her breasts. We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them without fear. We went to see a Naturopathic doctor up in Canada. He said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as such. He " treated " her for many months. Finally some time in May after the lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor and get this diagnosed ASAP. He said that cancer can spread so fast, that my mom could be die from waiting so long. She agreed to go to a conventional doctor. It was cancerous. She had surgery to have the breast removed. A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under him). Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to prevent further cancer. All of her nodes were positive. She had cat scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable spot on her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she does not know of ever having these) or it could be a spot of cancer. I guess it is in the area where cancer would settle. The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a recurrance by 30 percent. She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her doctor). We went to see the half holistic/ half conventional doctor today. He recommends the Tamoxifen. I told him about a book that I " ve been reading called " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause " by Dr. Lee. It is an amazing book. It gives so much info on how natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural to make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. Reading this book has really gotten me upset. It's all about money. Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because there is big money in allopathic medicine. And I believe that a lot of doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's why he recommends the Tamoxifen. I don't like the idea of the Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at least have her try some alternative therapy in conjunction with it. Part of me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long and may not have much time to play with. I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her to beat it. I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... also links to websites. I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. Lorraine Day (my mom's name is Lorraine). I'd appreciate the URL to the site if someone could provide it. I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. Does anyone know about natural progesterone cream? The book that I mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low progesterone levels. From what the book says, I thinks it's possible that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I just dont' know enough about it to make that type of decision. I asked her doctor today and he didn't know if it would help her. He did refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a conventional doctor. The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a believer in holistic at all. He will discuss them, but only basically to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. Thanks for any info that anyone can provide. I'd really like to speak with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own breast cancer. Warm Regards, Sharon --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 1999 Report Share Posted August 18, 1999 Hi , My name is Sandy. Would you e-mail me more information on this? Was is SelGuard - where do we get it etc. What is the name of the doctor - where is he located? Would appreciate it immensely! Sandy ----Original Message Follows---- From: " H " <1eagles9@...> Reply- onelist < onelist> Subject: Re: [ ] New Member Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:00:15 -0500 From: " H " <1eagles9@...> Hi Sharon I've come across a top research doctor that has worked with cancer. He spoke in April in Pennsylvania to some of the country's top oncologists. The initial clinical study began with breast cancer and they continue to document the progress both old and new cancer patients have made. In my fight with cancer, the product studied made a major difference in my life. My local dr. said he was baffled at what he saw, after using it for a small period of time. I just heard from a woman who has breast cancer, used a regimen recommended by this dr. and is seeing positive progress with her cancer. I would be glad to give more information if you are interested. There is an abstract for his presentation in PA as well on the cancer research his team did. I have heard of more than one instance where someone's cancer in the later stages, not long to live and the SelGuard combined with some of the products he recommended in their individual regimens turned things around and they saw their cancer cell markers go down with each lab report. The dr.'s been busy, hundreds of phone calls since he spoke, but I have been able to get in touch with his assistant who relays the message to him, and gets back to me and possibly you can connect with him directly. Let me know if you would like information. Hope I can be of help. I really appreciated the hope I was given. H. PS I forgot to mention that these nutraceuticals also work with prevention. There have also been studies about that aspect. Also the SelGuard is all natural, kills the cancer cells, not the good ones and is non-toxic with no side effects. [ ] New Member From: SnottyKat@... Hi Everyone, My name is Sharon. Last August my 68 (then 67) year old mother discovered a rather large lump in her left breast. She has been afraid of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't check her breasts. We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them without fear. We went to see a Naturopathic doctor up in Canada. He said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as such. He " treated " her for many months. Finally some time in May after the lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor and get this diagnosed ASAP. He said that cancer can spread so fast, that my mom could be die from waiting so long. She agreed to go to a conventional doctor. It was cancerous. She had surgery to have the breast removed. A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under him). Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to prevent further cancer. All of her nodes were positive. She had cat scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable spot on her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she does not know of ever having these) or it could be a spot of cancer. I guess it is in the area where cancer would settle. The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a recurrance by 30 percent. She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her doctor). We went to see the half holistic/ half conventional doctor today. He recommends the Tamoxifen. I told him about a book that I " ve been reading called " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause " by Dr. Lee. It is an amazing book. It gives so much info on how natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural to make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. Reading this book has really gotten me upset. It's all about money. Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because there is big money in allopathic medicine. And I believe that a lot of doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's why he recommends the Tamoxifen. I don't like the idea of the Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at least have her try some alternative therapy in conjunction with it. Part of me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long and may not have much time to play with. I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her to beat it. I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... also links to websites. I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. Lorraine Day (my mom's name is Lorraine). I'd appreciate the URL to the site if someone could provide it. I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. Does anyone know about natural progesterone cream? The book that I mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low progesterone levels. From what the book says, I thinks it's possible that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I just dont' know enough about it to make that type of decision. I asked her doctor today and he didn't know if it would help her. He did refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a conventional doctor. The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a believer in holistic at all. He will discuss them, but only basically to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. Thanks for any info that anyone can provide. I'd really like to speak with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own breast cancer. Warm Regards, Sharon --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 1999 Report Share Posted August 18, 1999 I have brochures and other literature which I'd be glad to mail if you wish. I'm not very adept at sending attachments or I'd do that. SelGuard is the name of the main product used with cancer; however there are others. Dr. Simon Hsia is the Chief Scientific Officer for Viva America. He is on the Medical Advisory Board along with Dr. Block, Director of Oncology at Harbor-UCLA. Dr. Block was a past president of the American Cancer Society-LA chapter. He conducted the soon-to-be published clinical study of VIVA SelGuard in a medical journal. If you are interested in ordering, I would be glad to mail you a form you can send directly to the company. If you would like to go straight through the company, email me and I can give you a number. Again, I would be glad to send you info if you send your address in a private email. Hope this answers your questions. H. [ ] New Member > > >From: SnottyKat@... > >Hi Everyone, > >My name is Sharon. Last August my 68 (then 67) year old mother >discovered a rather large lump in her left breast. She has been afraid >of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't check >her breasts. > >We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them >without fear. We went to see a Naturopathic doctor up in Canada. He >said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as such. >He " treated " her for many months. Finally some time in May after the >lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my >brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. > >His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor and >get this diagnosed ASAP. He said that cancer can spread so fast, that >my mom could be die from waiting so long. > >She agreed to go to a conventional doctor. It was cancerous. She had >surgery to have the breast removed. > >A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who >also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under >him). > >Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to >prevent further cancer. All of her nodes were positive. She had cat >scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable spot on >her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she does not >know of ever having these) or it could be a spot of cancer. I guess it >is in the area where cancer would settle. > >The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a >recurrance by 30 percent. She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance >without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her >doctor). > >We went to see the half holistic/ half conventional doctor today. He >recommends the Tamoxifen. I told him about a book that I " ve been >reading called " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause " by >Dr. Lee. It is an amazing book. It gives so much info on how >natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make >money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural to >make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. > >Reading this book has really gotten me upset. It's all about money. >Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because >there is big money in allopathic medicine. And I believe that a lot of >doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. > >Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that >nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's >why he recommends the Tamoxifen. I don't like the idea of the >Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at least >have her try some alternative therapy in conjunction with it. Part of >me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long >and may not have much time to play with. > >I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her >to beat it. > >I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... >also links to websites. I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. >Lorraine Day (my mom's name is Lorraine). I'd appreciate the URL to >the site if someone could provide it. > >I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. > >Does anyone know about natural progesterone cream? The book that I >mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low >progesterone levels. From what the book says, I thinks it's possible >that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I >just dont' know enough about it to make that type of decision. I asked >her doctor today and he didn't know if it would help her. He did >refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a >conventional doctor. The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a >believer in holistic at all. He will discuss them, but only basically >to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. >Thanks for any info that anyone can provide. I'd really like to speak >with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own >breast cancer. > >Warm Regards, > >Sharon > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 1999 Report Share Posted August 18, 1999 If you read my email to Sandy, it will answer a lot of your questions. SelGuard works with pretty much all cancers; however usually they recommend a regimen individualized based on the type of cancer. I have information I can mail, like the abstract from PA, etc. If you would like it, just send me a private email with your address. By the way, Dr. Simon Hsia will be speaking in Rochester around Sept 25. He will also be speaking in Colorado in Greeley and Denver, and in Iowa. If you are near to these locations, when I verify his schedule, I can post it. Any more questions, I would be glad to help. H. Re: [ ] New Member >From: Kris Makl <kjmakl@...> > >I'd also like this information. Is this strictly for breast cancer or for >any cancer? > >kris > >At 06:39 AM 8/18/99 PDT, you wrote: >>From: " Keyes " <sandra_keyes@...> >> >>Hi , >>My name is Sandy. Would you e-mail me more information on this? Was is >>SelGuard - where do we get it etc. What is the name of the doctor - where >>is he located? >> >>Would appreciate it immensely! >>Sandy >> >> > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 1999 Report Share Posted August 18, 1999 H I too would like this information. Do they have a web site to look at their products? Thanks Margie Bander margie.f.bander@... [ ] New Member > > >From: SnottyKat@... > >Hi Everyone, > >My name is Sharon. Last August my 68 (then 67) year old mother >discovered a rather large lump in her left breast. She has been afraid >of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't check >her breasts. > >We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them >without fear. We went to see a Naturopathic doctor up in Canada. He >said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as such. >He " treated " her for many months. Finally some time in May after the >lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my >brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. > >His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor and >get this diagnosed ASAP. He said that cancer can spread so fast, that >my mom could be die from waiting so long. > >She agreed to go to a conventional doctor. It was cancerous. She had >surgery to have the breast removed. > >A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who >also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under >him). > >Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to >prevent further cancer. All of her nodes were positive. She had cat >scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable spot on >her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she does not >know of ever having these) or it could be a spot of cancer. I guess it >is in the area where cancer would settle. > >The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a >recurrance by 30 percent. She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance >without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her >doctor). > >We went to see the half holistic/ half conventional doctor today. He >recommends the Tamoxifen. I told him about a book that I " ve been >reading called " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause " by >Dr. Lee. It is an amazing book. It gives so much info on how >natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make >money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural to >make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. > >Reading this book has really gotten me upset. It's all about money. >Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because >there is big money in allopathic medicine. And I believe that a lot of >doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. > >Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that >nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's >why he recommends the Tamoxifen. I don't like the idea of the >Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at least >have her try some alternative therapy in conjunction with it. Part of >me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long >and may not have much time to play with. > >I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her >to beat it. > >I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... >also links to websites. I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. >Lorraine Day (my mom's name is Lorraine). I'd appreciate the URL to >the site if someone could provide it. > >I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. > >Does anyone know about natural progesterone cream? The book that I >mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low >progesterone levels. From what the book says, I thinks it's possible >that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I >just dont' know enough about it to make that type of decision. I asked >her doctor today and he didn't know if it would help her. He did >refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a >conventional doctor. The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a >believer in holistic at all. He will discuss them, but only basically >to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. >Thanks for any info that anyone can provide. I'd really like to speak >with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own >breast cancer. > >Warm Regards, > >Sharon > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 1999 Report Share Posted August 18, 1999 I'd also like this information. Is this strictly for breast cancer or for any cancer? kris At 06:39 AM 8/18/99 PDT, you wrote: >From: " Keyes " <sandra_keyes@...> > >Hi , >My name is Sandy. Would you e-mail me more information on this? Was is >SelGuard - where do we get it etc. What is the name of the doctor - where >is he located? > >Would appreciate it immensely! >Sandy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 1999 Report Share Posted August 18, 1999 , I would be very interested in the Colorado date(s) when you know them. Thanks, Diane At 12:10 PM 8/18/99 -0500, you wrote: >From: " H " <1eagles9@...> > >If you read my email to Sandy, it will answer a lot of your questions. >SelGuard works with pretty much all cancers; however usually they recommend >a regimen individualized based on the type of cancer. > I have information I can mail, like the abstract from PA, etc. If you >would like it, just send me a private email with your address. > By the way, Dr. Simon Hsia will be speaking in Rochester around Sept >25. He will also be speaking in Colorado in Greeley and Denver, and in >Iowa. If you are near to these locations, when I verify his schedule, I can >post it. Any more questions, I would be glad to help. > H. > Re: [ ] New Member > > >>From: Kris Makl <kjmakl@...> >> >>I'd also like this information. Is this strictly for breast cancer or for >>any cancer? >> >>kris >> >>At 06:39 AM 8/18/99 PDT, you wrote: >>>From: " Keyes " <sandra_keyes@...> >>> >>>Hi , >>>My name is Sandy. Would you e-mail me more information on this? Was is >>>SelGuard - where do we get it etc. What is the name of the doctor - where >>>is he located? >>> >>>Would appreciate it immensely! >>>Sandy >>> >>> >> >>--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 1999 Report Share Posted August 18, 1999 , I tried to send you my address via private e-mail, and it came back to me twice. Could you try sending me a private e-mail and see if I can respond??? Thanks, Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 1999 Report Share Posted August 22, 1999 , I am also new to the list. I have been using various alternative methods to cure my breast cancer for about 2 1/2 years, with very good results. I am always looking for new things to supplement my regimen and would be very interested in hearing about SelGuard. Would you advise me as to how I would find out about this product/regimen. Thank you. Kathy. [ ] New Member > > > From: SnottyKat@... > > Hi Everyone, > > My name is Sharon. Last August my 68 (then 67) year old mother > discovered a rather large lump in her left breast. She has been afraid > of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't check > her breasts. > > We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them > without fear. We went to see a Naturopathic doctor up in Canada. He > said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as such. > He " treated " her for many months. Finally some time in May after the > lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my > brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. > > His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor and > get this diagnosed ASAP. He said that cancer can spread so fast, that > my mom could be die from waiting so long. > > She agreed to go to a conventional doctor. It was cancerous. She had > surgery to have the breast removed. > > A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who > also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under > him). > > Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to > prevent further cancer. All of her nodes were positive. She had cat > scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable spot on > her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she does not > know of ever having these) or it could be a spot of cancer. I guess it > is in the area where cancer would settle. > > The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a > recurrance by 30 percent. She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance > without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her > doctor). > > We went to see the half holistic/ half conventional doctor today. He > recommends the Tamoxifen. I told him about a book that I " ve been > reading called " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause " by > Dr. Lee. It is an amazing book. It gives so much info on how > natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make > money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural to > make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. > > Reading this book has really gotten me upset. It's all about money. > Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because > there is big money in allopathic medicine. And I believe that a lot of > doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. > > Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that > nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's > why he recommends the Tamoxifen. I don't like the idea of the > Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at least > have her try some alternative therapy in conjunction with it. Part of > me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long > and may not have much time to play with. > > I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her > to beat it. > > I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... > also links to websites. I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. > Lorraine Day (my mom's name is Lorraine). I'd appreciate the URL to > the site if someone could provide it. > > I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. > > Does anyone know about natural progesterone cream? The book that I > mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low > progesterone levels. From what the book says, I thinks it's possible > that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I > just dont' know enough about it to make that type of decision. I asked > her doctor today and he didn't know if it would help her. He did > refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a > conventional doctor. The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a > believer in holistic at all. He will discuss them, but only basically > to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. > Thanks for any info that anyone can provide. I'd really like to speak > with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own > breast cancer. > > Warm Regards, > > Sharon > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 1999 Report Share Posted August 23, 1999 Hi Diane, I'm in Colorado Springs - nothing yet on me - but a family history of cancer ................. every morning I do 4Tb of flax meal & 2 Tb flax oil w/enough honey to suck down - also a glass of buttermilk ........ I've read several things on this helping everything that could possibly hurt you ) KIT Sharon Re: [ ] New Member From: Diane Naasz <dianelnl@...> Kathy, May I ask if you have used any traditional type treatments? I was diagnosed in May of this year with breast cancer, but found my lump in Feb., 2 weeks after my mother passed away from the same thing. I've only used alternative therapies, and I feel great. How are you measuring your progress? I was told about a blood test, but no-one up here knows about any blood test for women who already have cancer. I'm in rural Montana, but am planning a move to Colorado here soon. Thanks. Diane At 06:48 PM 8/22/99 -0400, you wrote: >From: " K_Ingham " <K_Ingham@...> > >, I am also new to the list. I have been using various alternative >methods to cure my breast cancer for about 2 1/2 years, with very good >results. I am always looking for new things to supplement my regimen and >would be very interested in hearing about SelGuard. Would you advise me as >to how I would find out about this product/regimen. Thank you. Kathy. > [ ] New Member >> >> >> From: SnottyKat@... >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> My name is Sharon. Last August my 68 (then 67) year old mother >> discovered a rather large lump in her left breast. She has been afraid >> of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't check >> her breasts. >> >> We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them >> without fear. We went to see a Naturopathic doctor up in Canada. He >> said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as such. >> He " treated " her for many months. Finally some time in May after the >> lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my >> brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. >> >> His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor and >> get this diagnosed ASAP. He said that cancer can spread so fast, that >> my mom could be die from waiting so long. >> >> She agreed to go to a conventional doctor. It was cancerous. She had >> surgery to have the breast removed. >> >> A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who >> also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under >> him). >> >> Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to >> prevent further cancer. All of her nodes were positive. She had cat >> scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable spot on >> her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she does not >> know of ever having these) or it could be a spot of cancer. I guess it >> is in the area where cancer would settle. >> >> The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a >> recurrance by 30 percent. She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance >> without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her >> doctor). >> >> We went to see the half holistic/ half conventional doctor today. He >> recommends the Tamoxifen. I told him about a book that I " ve been >> reading called " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause " by >> Dr. Lee. It is an amazing book. It gives so much info on how >> natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make >> money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural to >> make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. >> >> Reading this book has really gotten me upset. It's all about money. >> Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because >> there is big money in allopathic medicine. And I believe that a lot of >> doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. >> >> Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that >> nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's >> why he recommends the Tamoxifen. I don't like the idea of the >> Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at least >> have her try some alternative therapy in conjunction with it. Part of >> me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long >> and may not have much time to play with. >> >> I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her >> to beat it. >> >> I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... >> also links to websites. I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. >> Lorraine Day (my mom's name is Lorraine). I'd appreciate the URL to >> the site if someone could provide it. >> >> I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. >> >> Does anyone know about natural progesterone cream? The book that I >> mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low >> progesterone levels. From what the book says, I thinks it's possible >> that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I >> just dont' know enough about it to make that type of decision. I asked >> her doctor today and he didn't know if it would help her. He did >> refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a >> conventional doctor. The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a >> believer in holistic at all. He will discuss them, but only basically >> to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. >> Thanks for any info that anyone can provide. I'd really like to speak >> with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own >> breast cancer. >> >> Warm Regards, >> >> Sharon >> >> >> --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 1999 Report Share Posted August 23, 1999 Kathy, May I ask if you have used any traditional type treatments? I was diagnosed in May of this year with breast cancer, but found my lump in Feb., 2 weeks after my mother passed away from the same thing. I've only used alternative therapies, and I feel great. How are you measuring your progress? I was told about a blood test, but no-one up here knows about any blood test for women who already have cancer. I'm in rural Montana, but am planning a move to Colorado here soon. Thanks. Diane At 06:48 PM 8/22/99 -0400, you wrote: >From: " K_Ingham " <K_Ingham@...> > >, I am also new to the list. I have been using various alternative >methods to cure my breast cancer for about 2 1/2 years, with very good >results. I am always looking for new things to supplement my regimen and >would be very interested in hearing about SelGuard. Would you advise me as >to how I would find out about this product/regimen. Thank you. Kathy. > [ ] New Member >> >> >> From: SnottyKat@... >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> My name is Sharon. Last August my 68 (then 67) year old mother >> discovered a rather large lump in her left breast. She has been afraid >> of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't check >> her breasts. >> >> We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them >> without fear. We went to see a Naturopathic doctor up in Canada. He >> said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as such. >> He " treated " her for many months. Finally some time in May after the >> lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my >> brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. >> >> His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor and >> get this diagnosed ASAP. He said that cancer can spread so fast, that >> my mom could be die from waiting so long. >> >> She agreed to go to a conventional doctor. It was cancerous. She had >> surgery to have the breast removed. >> >> A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who >> also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under >> him). >> >> Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to >> prevent further cancer. All of her nodes were positive. She had cat >> scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable spot on >> her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she does not >> know of ever having these) or it could be a spot of cancer. I guess it >> is in the area where cancer would settle. >> >> The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a >> recurrance by 30 percent. She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance >> without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her >> doctor). >> >> We went to see the half holistic/ half conventional doctor today. He >> recommends the Tamoxifen. I told him about a book that I " ve been >> reading called " What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause " by >> Dr. Lee. It is an amazing book. It gives so much info on how >> natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make >> money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural to >> make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. >> >> Reading this book has really gotten me upset. It's all about money. >> Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because >> there is big money in allopathic medicine. And I believe that a lot of >> doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. >> >> Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that >> nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's >> why he recommends the Tamoxifen. I don't like the idea of the >> Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at least >> have her try some alternative therapy in conjunction with it. Part of >> me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long >> and may not have much time to play with. >> >> I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her >> to beat it. >> >> I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... >> also links to websites. I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. >> Lorraine Day (my mom's name is Lorraine). I'd appreciate the URL to >> the site if someone could provide it. >> >> I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. >> >> Does anyone know about natural progesterone cream? The book that I >> mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low >> progesterone levels. From what the book says, I thinks it's possible >> that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I >> just dont' know enough about it to make that type of decision. I asked >> her doctor today and he didn't know if it would help her. He did >> refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a >> conventional doctor. The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a >> believer in holistic at all. He will discuss them, but only basically >> to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. >> Thanks for any info that anyone can provide. I'd really like to speak >> with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own >> breast cancer. >> >> Warm Regards, >> >> Sharon >> >> >> --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 1999 Report Share Posted August 23, 1999 Hi Sharon, Thanks. I'm actually planning on moving back to the Springs area. I am only doing a Tb of flax oil in my juice in the morning. Maybe I'll increase to 1 in the evening as well. I'm not doing any dairy at this point. I'm also limited on what I can get up here, and haven't seen flax meal??? Another reason I will be happy to get moved. I love the Wild Oat in Springs, and Mountain Mama. I also just ordered the books from amazon by Dr. Budwig, so will be interested to read them. Thanks again. Diane At 05:48 PM 8/22/99 -0600, you wrote: > Hi Diane, & 2 Tb flax oil w/enough honey to suck down - also a glass >of buttermilk ........ I've read several things on this helping everything >that could possibly hurt you ) KIT [ ] New Member >>> >>> >>> From: SnottyKat@... >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> year old mother >>> She has been afraid >>> of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't > check >>> her breasts. >>> >>> We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them >>> He >>> said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as >such. >>> " " Finally some time in May after the >>> lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my >>> brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. >>> >>> His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor > and >>> He said that cancer can spread so fast, that >>> my mom could be die from waiting so long. >>> >>> She had >>> surgery to have the breast removed. >>> >>> A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who >>> also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under >>> him). >>> >>> Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to >>> She had cat >>> scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable >spot on >>> her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she >does not >>> I guess it >>> is in the area where cancer would settle. >>> >>> The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a >>> She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance >>> without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her >>> doctor). >>> >>> He >>> " ve been >>> " " by >>> It gives so much info on how >>> natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make >>> money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural > to >>> make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. >>> >>> It's all about money. >>> Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because >>> And I believe that a lot of >>> doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. >>> >>> Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that >>> nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's >>> I don't like the idea of the >>> Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at > least >>> Part of >>> me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long >>> and may not have much time to play with. >>> >>> I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her >>> to beat it. >>> >>> I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... >>> I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. >>> I'd appreciate the URL to >>> the site if someone could provide it. >>> >>> I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. >>> >>> The book that I >>> mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low >>> From what the book says, I thinks it's possible >>> that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I >>> I asked >>> He did >>> refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a >>> The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a >>> He will discuss them, but only basically >>> to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. >>> I'd really like to speak >>> with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own >>> breast cancer. >>> >>> Warm Regards, >>> >>> Sharon >>> >>> >>> --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 1999 Report Share Posted August 23, 1999 Hi Kathy Being a new member, I'm not sure what you all have read. As I've said before, I'm not very good at the copying, pasting, etc. with emails; so I'm consigned to snail mail to pass on the info I've gottenn myself. If you send me a private email with your address, I'd be glad to send whatever I can. If you have specific questions, I can try and answer them. I've been trying to get a hold of a lady who has breast cancer and has seen much improvement to ask any questions you might have. Let me know if you do as I'll be trying to reach her tomorrow. H. Re: [ ] New Member >From: " K_Ingham " <K_Ingham@...> > >, I am also new to the list. I have been using various alternative >methods to cure my breast cancer for about 2 1/2 years, with very good >results. I am always looking for new things to supplement my regimen and >would be very interested in hearing about SelGuard. Would you advise me as >to how I would find out about this product/regimen. Thank you. Kathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 1999 Report Share Posted August 23, 1999 I buy flax seed at the health food store & grind it up into meal - got to keep it in the frig........ I've heard those two stores are wonderful - I live in Monument & go to the little shop up here normally ...... I bought 1 of her books from amazon also - haven't read it cover to cover - just pull info as needed......... If you haven't yet - check out www.barleans.com - they have great testimonials & literature on the benefits of flax. [ ] New Member >>> >>> >>> From: SnottyKat@... >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> year old mother >>> She has been afraid >>> of doctors and said she didn't want to know anything and didn't > check >>> her breasts. >>> >>> We have believed in alternative practitioners though and have seen them >>> He >>> said that he would assume the lump was not cancer and treat her as >such. >>> " " Finally some time in May after the >>> lump had gotten bigger, I decided that it was time that I tell my >>> brother (in another state) about my mom's lump. >>> >>> His wife is a nurse and he told me that my mom must get to a doctor > and >>> He said that cancer can spread so fast, that >>> my mom could be die from waiting so long. >>> >>> She had >>> surgery to have the breast removed. >>> >>> A few months back, I found a doctor who is a conventional doctor who >>> also believes in holistic (he is similar to Dr. Weil and studies under >>> him). >>> >>> Now the doctors want to give my mother a drug called Tamoxifen to >>> She had cat >>> scans and there was no cancer found, but there is a questionable >spot on >>> her lung, which may be a scar from bronchitis or pneumonia (she >does not >>> I guess it >>> is in the area where cancer would settle. >>> >>> The Tamoxifen would supposedly decrease the chance of my mom getting a >>> She now has a 60-70% chance of recurrance >>> without treatment (in 5 years) and 80-90% in 10 years (according to her >>> doctor). >>> >>> He >>> " ve been >>> " " by >>> It gives so much info on how >>> natural substances cannot be patented and the drug companies can't make >>> money on them, so they have developed products that are unnatural > to >>> make money, drugs that our bodies do not do well with. >>> >>> It's all about money. >>> Natural medicine is shunned, not because it does not work, but because >>> And I believe that a lot of >>> doctors have been brainwashed by the pharmaceutical companies. >>> >>> Anyhow, I asked the doctor about holistic therapy and he said that >>> nothing has been proven as far as holistic cures for cancer and that's >>> I don't like the idea of the >>> Tamoxifen, but even if my mom does go for the idea, I'd like to at > least >>> Part of >>> me is afraid to have her not try Tamoxifen because she waited too long >>> and may not have much time to play with. >>> >>> I do truly believe that there is a natural cure for this, a way for her >>> to beat it. >>> >>> I would like any info that people on the list may be able to provide... >>> I saw that someone mentioned a site of Dr. >>> I'd appreciate the URL to >>> the site if someone could provide it. >>> >>> I'd like links to any sites that might be helpful. >>> >>> The book that I >>> mentioned above is basically about estrogen dominance and low >>> From what the book says, I thinks it's possible >>> that my mom could be helped with the natural progesterone cream, but I >>> I asked >>> He did >>> refer us to an oncologist who would be open to alternatives, who is a >>> The doctor who did my mother's surgery is not a >>> He will discuss them, but only basically >>> to tell me that they don't work, that there is no proof. >>> I'd really like to speak >>> with women who have sucessfully used natural methods for their own >>> breast cancer. >>> >>> Warm Regards, >>> >>> Sharon >>> >>> >>> --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 1999 Report Share Posted August 23, 1999 Thanks Sharon. I have some seeds so will grind them up. I was wondering if that was it??? ) Thanks for the website, and Monument is a beautiful area. Diane At 04:22 AM 8/23/99 -0600, you wrote: > & & go to the little shop up here normally ...... I bought 1 of her >books from amazon also - haven't read it cover to cover - just pull info >as needed......... If you haven't yet - check out www.barleans.com & >literature on the benefits of flax. -----Original Message----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 1999 Report Share Posted August 23, 1999 Yeah - if you just sprinkle the seeds on food & don't grind - you really don't get the benefit ......... they just " pass " through the system unused ) Re: [ ] New Member From: Diane Naasz <dianelnl@...> Thanks Sharon. I have some seeds so will grind them up. I was wondering if that was it??? ) Thanks for the website, and Monument is a beautiful area. Diane At 04:22 AM 8/23/99 -0600, you wrote: > & & go to the little shop up here normally ...... I bought 1 of her >books from amazon also - haven't read it cover to cover - just pull info >as needed......... If you haven't yet - check out www.barleans.com & >literature on the benefits of flax. -----Original Message----- --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 1999 Report Share Posted August 23, 1999 Thanks again! At 07:19 AM 8/23/99 -0600, you wrote: > & " " through the system unused ) Re: [ ] New Member > ><dianelnl@...> > >Thanks Sharon. > > I was wondering if that was it??? >) > >Thanks for the website, and Monument is a beautiful area. > >Diane > >At 04:22 AM 8/23/99 -0600, you wrote: >> & & shop up here normally ...... I bought 1 of her >> read it cover to cover - just pull info >> If you haven't yet - check out & >> -----Original Message----- > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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