Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 A cream is the most appropriate carrier for the concentration of 20 Grams than the alcohol carrier. I also learned that it is important to rub it on a non hair area. Absorbtion is better where the blood supply is not focused on supplying nutrition to the hair folical. I will have lab values done in 3 months for follow up. BUD --- veganman23 <veganman23@...> wrote: --------------------------------- Hi Bud - welcome! May I ask why you are switching to a cream? Drake > > switching from Androl=gel to a cream to be made by a > Pharmacist. glad i found this group for support BUD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 My doctor told me the " trick " about the hairless area. It is not mentioned anywhere in the Androgel literature. I acutally remove hair from my abdomen and shoulders so that it absorbs correctly. Kind of a PITA, but worth it if it helps. Bud Bowen <stbuddaious@...> wrote:A cream is the most appropriate carrier for the concentration of 20 Grams than the alcohol carrier. I also learned that it is important to rub it on a non hair area. Absorbtion is better where the blood supply is not focused on supplying nutrition to the hair folical. I will have lab values done in 3 months for follow up. BUD --- veganman23 <veganman23@...> wrote: --------------------------------- Hi Bud - welcome! May I ask why you are switching to a cream? Drake > > switching from Androl=gel to a cream to be made by a > Pharmacist. glad i found this group for support BUD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 If application is better in a hairless area, then Houston, we have a problem. I have always have lots of skin hair and first the Androgel then the compounded T made it worse. Flaco () > > > > switching from Androl=gel to a cream to be made by a > > Pharmacist. glad i found this group for support BUD > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2005 Report Share Posted October 21, 2005 I'm a hairy bear kind of guy...few places on me that are hairless, but I've been applying AG to my inner bicep (sparse hair) and my shaved neck, with any residual getting onto the cheeks and inner side of the wrists (like where you would slit them. Seems to work, though for other issues, the doc is switching me to Test Cyp shots instead of AG. Re: new member If application is better in a hairless area, then Houston, we have a problem. I have always have lots of skin hair and first the Androgel then the compounded T made it worse. Flaco () > > > > switching from Androl=gel to a cream to be made by a > > Pharmacist. glad i found this group for support BUD > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Hi Bud - I hadn't heard that about the cream being a more appropriate carrier. I have T compounded in a gel at 25mg/ml with no problem. I know when I was doing 50mg/ml, it was too saturated and some of the T fell out of suspension. Where do you get yours compounded? Drake > > > > switching from Androl=gel to a cream to be made by a > > Pharmacist. glad i found this group for support BUD > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2005 Report Share Posted October 22, 2005 Good idea. My concern, however, is that if the issue is blood supply focusing on the hair folicle, I would think that would continue to be an issue even after shaving. Drake > > > > switching from Androl=gel to a cream to be made by a > > Pharmacist. glad i found this group for support BUD > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 25mg T/mL is only a 2.5% T mixture (and 50mg/mL only gives a 5% mixture). I'm guessing that when Bud stated a " concentration of 20 grams, " that he may have meant a 20% T cream (i.e., made with 200mg T/mL). I have seen both hydroalcoholic- and PLO-type gels at up to 20% T concentration, but perhaps the T has a tendency to precipitate out too readily (or never even goes into solution) at that level (depends on the skill of the compounding pharmacist, too, of course). By comparison, AndroGel is a whimpy 1% T formulation (i.e., 10mg T/mL). That's why compounded versions can be better (in addition to the cost savings) in order to avoid having to slather on huge amounts of gel or cream. For example, you'd have to slather on 10g (= 10mL volume and 100mg T) of AndroGel to equal 0.5mL of a compounded 20% T cream or gel. > > > > > > switching from Androl=gel to a cream to be made by a > > > Pharmacist. glad i found this group for support BUD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 I think the bigger issue with applying to hairy areas is the stuff gets on the hair (dead keratin) and not into the skin, effectively lowering the dosage received. Re: new member Good idea. My concern, however, is that if the issue is blood supply focusing on the hair folicle, I would think that would continue to be an issue even after shaving. Drake > > > > switching from Androl=gel to a cream to be made by a > > Pharmacist. glad i found this group for support BUD > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hello, I am waiting this week of the new Rx of Testoterone to show up on the doorstep. It is suppose to be in a cream application and i will share any and all info that I can get. this group has bben a revelation and source of encouragement --- frankwhardy <frankwhardy@...> wrote: --------------------------------- 25mg T/mL is only a 2.5% T mixture (and 50mg/mL only gives a 5% mixture). I'm guessing that when Bud stated a " concentration of 20 grams, " that he may have meant a 20% T cream (i.e., made with 200mg T/mL). I have seen both hydroalcoholic- and PLO-type gels at up to 20% T concentration, but perhaps the T has a tendency to precipitate out too readily (or never even goes into solution) at that level (depends on the skill of the compounding pharmacist, too, of course). By comparison, AndroGel is a whimpy 1% T formulation (i.e., 10mg T/mL). That's why compounded versions can be better (in addition to the cost savings) in order to avoid having to slather on huge amounts of gel or cream. For example, you'd have to slather on 10g (= 10mL volume and 100mg T) of AndroGel to equal 0.5mL of a compounded 20% T cream or gel. > > > > > > switching from Androl=gel to a cream to be made by a > > > Pharmacist. glad i found this group for support BUD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Hey Wyndi, Welcome to the group. Hope your two are doing well! Lou --- wyndi <wjadkins2@...> wrote: > Hello my name is Wyndi and I am a sahm to 3 yr old > twins. My son > was diagnosed with oral apraxia back in > March of this year. We > are learning more and more everyday. Sometimes its > so difficult to > understand what he is saying to me and he gets so > frustrated with me > that I feel bad. So I look forward to any info and > ideas this great > group has to share. Thanks for letting me join. > > Wyndi > > > > > > Lou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 Thanks Lou, How are your twins doing? Is the eating getting better? Hugs, Wyndi Full time mommy to : - 3 yrs old, twin, hypoplasia lungs, rt side diaphgram paralyed, GERD, SID, developmental delays in oral, gross, and fine motor skills, oral apraxia, g tube fed, hypotonia, 10 weeks premature. Mykayla- 3 yr old twin, GERD, SID, g tube fed, asthma, history of aspiration, 10 weeks premature. www.babiesonline.com/babies/m/michaelandmykayla parents_of_special_children/ Re: [ ] New Member Hey Wyndi, Welcome to the group. Hope your two are doing well! Lou --- wyndi <wjadkins2@...> wrote: > Hello my name is Wyndi and I am a sahm to 3 yr old > twins. My son > was diagnosed with oral apraxia back in > March of this year. We > are learning more and more everyday. Sometimes its > so difficult to > understand what he is saying to me and he gets so > frustrated with me > that I feel bad. So I look forward to any info and > ideas this great > group has to share. Thanks for letting me join. > > Wyndi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 hi wyndi and welcome to the group-my name is charlotte hewnry-i ive in west des moines in iowa and i have a small in home business so i can stay home with my 2 kids-sarah who just started 1st grade and josh who is in his 3rd year at jordon creek preschool-josh has apraxia and sid. you are not alone. charlotte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2005 Report Share Posted October 29, 2005 Thanks for the warm welcome Charlotte. Hugs, Wyndi Full time mommy to : - 3 yrs old, twin, hypoplasia lungs, rt side diaphgram paralyed, GERD, SID, developmental delays in oral, gross, and fine motor skills, oral apraxia, g tube fed, hypotonia, 10 weeks premature. Mykayla- 3 yr old twin, GERD, SID, g tube fed, asthma, history of aspiration, 10 weeks premature. www.babiesonline.com/babies/m/michaelandmykayla parents_of_special_children/ Re: [ ] New Member hi wyndi and welcome to the group-my name is charlotte hewnry-i ive in west des moines in iowa and i have a small in home business so i can stay home with my 2 kids-sarah who just started 1st grade and josh who is in his 3rd year at jordon creek preschool-josh has apraxia and sid. you are not alone. charlotte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 In a message dated 11/29/05 11:20:41 AM GMT Standard Time, angiedemers05@... writes: Im taking methotrexate and it doesnt seem to do anything but make me tired. My husband and I were looking forward to trying to have a baby in the next few months and my doctor told me he dosent advise it. Can anyone give me an imput if they have gone through pregancy and PA. I need some comfort and glad im found this Group. Thanks In advance. Hi Angie, You would need to stop taking the MTX and make sure it is out of your system before trying for a family. Are you seeing a Rheumy at present Angie? It might be worth asking to be put on a med that will not cause problems during pregnancy. Welcome to the group. I hope you get what you are looking for from it. Good luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 If this could be answered on the forum - I would appreciate this, because I am in the same situation. Thank you [ ] New Member Hi Guys, I am 22 years old and live in Florida. I have been diagnosed with PA about 6 months ago. Right now the Arthritis is just in my hands, but it hurts. Im taking methotrexate and it doesnt seem to do anything but make me tired. My husband and I were looking forward to trying to have a baby in the next few months and my doctor told me he dosent advise it. Can anyone give me an imput if they have gone through pregancy and PA. I need some comfort and glad im found this Group. Thanks In advance. Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Hi, I can't tell you about having PA and going through pregnancy, I had my son pre-PA. However, there are a couple of gals in the group who've had babies in the last year, and may be able to respond with their experiences. I do know that it's not advisable to be taking MTX when trying to conceive, my brother also with PA had to stop it for a couple of years when they were trying. Can MTX users speak to this? warm blessings, jane --- & Avi <michelleb@...> wrote: > If this could be answered on the forum - I would > appreciate this, because I am in the same situation. > > Thank you > > > [ ] New Member > > > Hi Guys, > I am 22 years old and live in Florida. I have been > diagnosed with PA > about 6 months ago. Right now the Arthritis is > just in my hands, but > it hurts. Im taking methotrexate and it doesnt > seem to do anything but > make me tired. My husband and I were looking > forward to trying to have > a baby in the next few months and my doctor told > me he dosent advise > it. Can anyone give me an imput if they have gone > through pregancy and > PA. I need some comfort and glad im found this > Group. Thanks In > advance. > Angie > > > __________________________________ Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music./unlimited/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I would definately advise against it while taking the methotrexate. It has a very bad history with pregnancy. Birth defects, etc.. My pastors wife lost her baby and it wasn't even her, it was her husband who was taking the Methotrexate. Her doctor as well as his told them that the probability was very high that the Methotrexate was directly involved, unfortunately her doctor didn't know her husband was on the medication and his didn't know his wife was expecting. I do know a few ladies that I see at my doctors office who had wonderful pregnancies. Now they are enjoying wonderful and completely healthy children. They tell me that there are many times that thier children help keep them from being so depressed about the pain they are experiencing. Don't give up on the dream of children but be sure and talk to your doctor before trying. He can probably put you on a different med that may even work better for you and not pose a threat to the baby. GOOD~LUCK! ~Debi , " & Avi " <michelleb@d...> wrote: > > If this could be answered on the forum - I would appreciate this, because I am in the same situation. > > Thank you > > > [ ] New Member > > > Hi Guys, > I am 22 years old and live in Florida. I have been diagnosed with PA > about 6 months ago. Right now the Arthritis is just in my hands, but > it hurts. Im taking methotrexate and it doesnt seem to do anything but > make me tired. My husband and I were looking forward to trying to have > a baby in the next few months and my doctor told me he dosent advise > it. Can anyone give me an imput if they have gone through pregancy and > PA. I need some comfort and glad im found this Group. Thanks In > advance. > Angie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 we lost a baby when I was on mx- absolutely work with your doc- mine said not to try till I had been off for a min, of 6 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Angie, My DH also had PA or what they are now calling polyarthritis. He was 27 when it started, at the same time he developed UC. Anyhoo, we were TTC and his Dr took him off all the BIG meds and put him on prednisone until we concieved. The unfortunate thing for us is that it took us long to concieve b/c I have endometriosis and ended up having to do IVF. The up side is now we have happy, healthy 5yo triplet boys. The loves of our life. Don't give up hope, when there is a will, there is a way. My prayers are with you. Ali in CT Angie wrote: > Hi Guys, > I am 22 years old and live in Florida. I have been diagnosed with PA > about 6 months ago. Right now the Arthritis is just in my hands, but > it hurts. Im taking methotrexate and it doesnt seem to do anything but > make me tired. My husband and I were looking forward to trying to have > a baby in the next few months and my doctor told me he dosent advise > it. Can anyone give me an imput if they have gone through pregancy and > PA. I need some comfort and glad im found this Group. Thanks In > advance. > Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I agree with everyone else that you need to work with your doctor on how long you need to be off of particular medicinces before trying to concieve. I have been very blessed to have 2 children (in the last 4 years) since I was diagnosed with PA. Both times I had to stick it out, try to control my PA with different meds that weren't always as effective but helped make life bearable before we tried to conceive. I had been on Arava and they made me do a " wash out " for several months, and then wait before the first one. I kept the PA under control (somewhat) with Sulfasalizine while we tried- an old drug, not great- but it has been tested long enough, my dr. felt it was safe risk. With the 2nd, I had been on Enberel and had to quit for 4 months. For me, as soon as I got pregnant, my PA went into remission. I loved being pregnant- I was free of joint pain and loved it! (besides some of the PA meds made me nauseua enough, I didn't know the difference between that and morning sickness the first time around!) For my husband and I, it has been worth the months of more pain, while off the meds to have our two beautiful children. (He was much more helpful with things around the house, and cognizant of what I what kind of pain I was in to try to be realitivly " drug free " ) But I would say you must work with your Rheumy and OB/GYN to find the right time and balance with meds. Good luck! Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Do you need referrals to see specialists? If not, you should find a neurosurgeon or craniofacial surgeon who is band friendly. They could write a prescription for you. Or perhaps, even if your ped won't write the prescription, they would be willing to give you a referral for the specialist at least. (mom to Georgia) -----Original Message-----From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ] On Behalf Of Lab_mom2Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:30 PMPlagiocephaly Subject: new memberHi everyone. I'm new to the group. I've taken my son Auston, getting ready to turn 5 months old, to the ped. twice now for what I believe is a mild form of plagiocephaly. The ped keeps telling me his head will round out--keep repositioning and that she's seen worse. My son's head is misshaped in the back and his ears don't line up -- i've been trying repositioning and it's not working. I go back for a well baby visit monday. I'm going to make her document again that the repositioning isn't working and that I want a DOC band - but I don't think she'll write a prescription for it. I've got a 2 year old that never had this problem, and Auston's twin Conner doesn't have it either. So, I'm not just blowing this up from nothing, his head really looks like the pics on some of the drawings. Any suggestions on what I can do? I'm to the point that I don't care whether I have to pay out of pocket or not - I just want someone who specializes in this stuff to take a look at my kid and tell me whether I'm being neurotic or that I need to keep looking for a way for my kid to get a band. Any thoughts would be very appreciated - thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Do you need referrals to see specialists? If not, you should find a neurosurgeon or craniofacial surgeon who is band friendly. They could write a prescription for you. Or perhaps, even if your ped won't write the prescription, they would be willing to give you a referral for the specialist at least. (mom to Georgia) -----Original Message-----From: Plagiocephaly [mailto:Plagiocephaly ] On Behalf Of Lab_mom2Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:30 PMPlagiocephaly Subject: new memberHi everyone. I'm new to the group. I've taken my son Auston, getting ready to turn 5 months old, to the ped. twice now for what I believe is a mild form of plagiocephaly. The ped keeps telling me his head will round out--keep repositioning and that she's seen worse. My son's head is misshaped in the back and his ears don't line up -- i've been trying repositioning and it's not working. I go back for a well baby visit monday. I'm going to make her document again that the repositioning isn't working and that I want a DOC band - but I don't think she'll write a prescription for it. I've got a 2 year old that never had this problem, and Auston's twin Conner doesn't have it either. So, I'm not just blowing this up from nothing, his head really looks like the pics on some of the drawings. Any suggestions on what I can do? I'm to the point that I don't care whether I have to pay out of pocket or not - I just want someone who specializes in this stuff to take a look at my kid and tell me whether I'm being neurotic or that I need to keep looking for a way for my kid to get a band. Any thoughts would be very appreciated - thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Hello to all, My name is , I'm 33 yrs old, have been ill on and off for 8 years with no diagnosis, and I have recently been diagnosed with Lyme Disease. My diagnosis was made based on symptoms and then was verified with results from the Bowen Q-RiBb test. Anyway, I am about to temporarily relocate from my home in the Chicago suburbs to Kansas City MO to begin extremely rigorous IV treatment. The doctor that I am working with is brilliant and I have all the confidence in the world with her but I am very nervous about the finances involved. Since she is out of network the costs are very high and my insurance is estimating to pay about 40 percent. I was just wondering if anybody else is seeing an out of network doctor and what the out of pocket costs for you are? AT this point, I don't even know what to expect because I don't know what standard charges for this type of treatment are? What can I expect to pay? What are others paying for IV treatment with out of network doctors. By the way, all my IV treatments will be done in the physicians clinic, twice a day seven days a week. I am so desperate to get well and but at the same time I am scared to death of the possibility of going into financial ruins. Any input will help, I am desperate!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 > > Hello to all, > > My name is , I'm 33 yrs old, have been ill on and off for 8 years > with no diagnosis, and I have recently been diagnosed with Lyme Disease. My > diagnosis was made based on symptoms and then was verified with results from > the Bowen Q-RiBb test. Anyway, I am about to temporarily relocate from my > home in the Chicago suburbs to Kansas City MO to begin extremely rigorous IV > treatment. The doctor that I am working with is brilliant and I have all > the confidence in the world with her but I am very nervous about the > finances involved. Since she is out of network the costs are very high and > my insurance is estimating to pay about 40 percent. I was just wondering > if anybody else is seeing an out of network doctor and what the out of > pocket costs for you are? AT this point, I don't even know what to expect > because I don't know what standard charges for this type of treatment are? > What can I expect to pay? What are others paying for IV treatment with out > of network doctors. By the way, all my IV treatments will be done in the > physicians clinic, twice a day seven days a week. I am so desperate to get > well and but at the same time I am scared to death of the possibility of > going into financial ruins. Any input will help, I am desperate!! > > > Welcome, My LLMD gave me the prescription for the rocephin. I found a pharmacy that sold it for a reasonable price. Shop around. I had the IV put in at my local hospitol. I got a nurse to teach me how mix the saline with the rocephin which is a powder in a small bottle and to administer the rocephin and clean the site once a week. It took about 1/2 hr. I administered my rocephin twice a day and never had a problem with the site becomming infected. Real important to clean the site, change bandages, every week. This saved me a ton of money! And it was easy to do. It takes a while to do each injection, so I would just turn on the TV and just take it slow, about 20 min to inject. You can do this I promise. I was a wreck the first time but after that I realized I could do it myself. I am right handed so I had the IV on my left said. I did this myself for 8 months. Best of luck to you, Lizzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 and Lizzie, Yes,, Rocephin is very expensive. 1g of Rocephin is $200 and the flushes of saline and heparin additional $28.00. The PICC line placed in at a local hospital was $2,500. Maybe IV is less expensive. Lizzie, 8 months is truly a long time. PICC line is usually prefere to be placed into the R arm, less risks. The tip end just above the heart in the Superior Vena Cava. The drip took about 4o min 1time/day.Good luck with finding a way. I think there is a company that will donate medications to those who cannot afford it. I am sorry I cannot rember where I read it. The name started with R, maybe someone else knows. Did you, Lizzie, see any improvement of your symptoms? What were your symptoms? Are you considered to be Lyme free? How do you feel? Did you worry about getting Candida with such a long course of Rocephin treatments. How many G? 1g or 2g? My main symptoms have been nerve pain, painful contractions, extreme sensitivity to cold drafts and airconditioning. I also have vasospasm and neuropathy. After the acute Lyme diagnosiss, this August, my symptoms flared up even more and I also developed chest pains, profuse sweats lasting two months, irritability, moodiness and severe sleep problems. My memory isn't that good and I have diffculty with concentration. English is my second language so the mispelled words have nothing to do with Lyme. Thank you for your reply. -- In , " " <betneal@y...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello to all, > > > > My name is , I'm 33 yrs old, have been ill on and off for 8 > years > > with no diagnosis, and I have recently been diagnosed with Lyme > Disease. My > > diagnosis was made based on symptoms and then was verified with > results from > > the Bowen Q-RiBb test. Anyway, I am about to temporarily relocate > from my > > home in the Chicago suburbs to Kansas City MO to begin extremely > rigorous IV > > treatment. The doctor that I am working with is brilliant and I > have all > > the confidence in the world with her but I am very nervous about the > > finances involved. Since she is out of network the costs are very > high and > > my insurance is estimating to pay about 40 percent. I was just > wondering > > if anybody else is seeing an out of network doctor and what the out of > > pocket costs for you are? AT this point, I don't even know what to > expect > > because I don't know what standard charges for this type of > treatment are? > > What can I expect to pay? What are others paying for IV treatment > with out > > of network doctors. By the way, all my IV treatments will be done > in the > > physicians clinic, twice a day seven days a week. I am so desperate > to get > > well and but at the same time I am scared to death of the possibility of > > going into financial ruins. Any input will help, I am desperate!! > > > > > > > Welcome, > My LLMD gave me the prescription for the rocephin. I found a pharmacy > that sold it for a reasonable price. Shop around. I had the IV put in > at my local hospitol. I got a nurse to teach me how mix the saline > with the rocephin which is a powder in a small bottle and to > administer the rocephin and clean the site once a week. It took about > 1/2 hr. I administered my rocephin twice a day and never had a problem > with the site becomming infected. Real important to clean the site, > change bandages, every week. This saved me a ton of money! And it was > easy to do. It takes a while to do each injection, so I would just > turn on the TV and just take it slow, about 20 min to inject. You can > do this I promise. I was a wreck the first time but after that I > realized I could do it myself. I am right handed so I had the IV on my > left said. I did this myself for 8 months. > Best of luck to you, > Lizzie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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