Guest guest Posted September 11, 2010 Report Share Posted September 11, 2010 I have to add to this with regards to foods. This is very individual. I spent years doing all sorts of diets trying to determine which foods Mark couldn't tolerate. It was a nightmare. Then I found my magic bullet. For about $100 you can do a biomeridian scan aka electro dermal scan. This is in the homeopathic realm. We did it at my environmental doctors office but you can do it at many, many places throughout the world. It was more accurate than any food intolerance/allergy test that we ever did! He was intolerant of many, many items. Since this test is extremely sensitive you should first avoid all of the foods that are on the list for " you " and then after a couple of weeks, test each item individually to 'see'. For us, the biomeridian scan was invaluable and opened many doors for us. Look into digestive enzymes as well as they were a really blessing on 'cheat' days. (which inevitably happen). Houston Neutriceuticals, Kirkmans and Enzymetica put out the best digestive enzymes. Note: We even had 'healthy' foods on our list, such as citrus! We probably started with about 10-15 foods that he couldn't tolerate. Today, we are just down to chemicals and overly processed foods. High fructose corn syrup is poison to him.... so is MSG. We avoided our sensitivities, addressed the Candida, the fungi, the bacterias and chelated the metals. As the metal loads and the Candida diminished, so did the food sensitivities. Also... rotate the foods you are eating because foods that you eat a lot.... you could develop sensitivities to! Hope this gives you some help in working your diets. While there are a lot of commonalities between people, this can be an extremely individual item and those scans are remarkeably accurate, imo. (ie. Starchy carbs are the most likely items to cross the intestinal barrier....polysaccharides. Monosaccarides, like honey....the least likely according to what I have researched.) Janice From: bruce frost Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 4:45 PM To: mscured Subject: Re: Grains and milk Thanks for your sensible comments Jen Subject: Grains and milk To: mscured Received: Sunday, 12 September, 2010, 4:34 AM I think that MS is such an individual disease that basically baffles many physicians. I think that each person's case should be investigated. I disagree STRONGLY with sweeping decisions involving patient care. Decisions such as, ALL MS patients should receive MS drugs as soon as they are diagnosed. Those drugs have NOT been proven effective long-term! My own Neuro-Ophthalmologist told me that! Also, I don't think that ALL MS patients have to give up diary and wheat. I think that if ANYONE, whether they have MS or not should be tested for sensitivities to those foods if they seem to have a reaction when they eat/drink them. I don't have any reaction when I eat wheat or diary so I'm NOT giving them up. There are vegetarians that don't eat those foods but still contracted MS. I did, however give up diet coke. I read that " aspartame " could cause MS-Like symptoms. Another reason I gave it up is because I'm drinking A LOT of water instead. I've lost 22.2 lbs since July 12th when I got optic neuritis in my right eye (my good eye.) I plan to continue my new healthy diet of lean meats, fish, vegetables, fruit, whole grain wheat, brown/long grain wild rice, whole wheat pasta and non-fat organic dairy products. I'm also keeping my sodium, saturated fat and sugar as low as possible. This is what I'm going to do, Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 You neede glucose but your body an make that out of fat. What do you consider to be good carbs? > As for the comment about carbs. Your brain needs some carbs to function. You need them so that you can think. I can't eat an all " fish or protein " diet because I need the " carbs " to be able to do my job. I don't have an office job where I can day dream. I'm a sign language interpreter and I HAVE TO be able to think. I also have hereditary high cholesterol so I have to be careful about the kind of fat I'm eating. There are " good " carbs and " bad " carbs. I'm eating the " good " carbs! > > > Jen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 You neede glucose but your body an make that out of fat. What do you consider to be good carbs? > As for the comment about carbs. Your brain needs some carbs to function. You need them so that you can think. I can't eat an all " fish or protein " diet because I need the " carbs " to be able to do my job. I don't have an office job where I can day dream. I'm a sign language interpreter and I HAVE TO be able to think. I also have hereditary high cholesterol so I have to be careful about the kind of fat I'm eating. There are " good " carbs and " bad " carbs. I'm eating the " good " carbs! > > > Jen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 we as a species seemed to have done just fine without grains before the advent of agriculture. much better, actually. > I've read a lot on medical websites and other websites about MS and yes > they (the researchers) think that the peptids in milk/diary may mimic > myelin, however I found another article that said that people with MS are > more sensitive to foods, that is have many food allergies. > > As for the comment about carbs. Your brain needs some carbs to > function. You need them so that you can think. I can't eat an all " fish or > protein " diet because I need the " carbs " to be able to do my job. I don't > have an office job where I can day dream. I'm a sign language interpreter > and I HAVE TO be able to think. I also have hereditary high cholesterol so > I have to be careful about the kind of fat I'm eating. There are " good " > carbs and " bad " carbs. I'm eating the " good " carbs! > > I'm not going to eliminate a whole food group without proof it's > hurting me. Just like I won't take the MS drugs because there isn't any > proof that they work long-term. I would have to take them long-term. Also, > I'm not like the other people here because I don't have any MS symptoms now > so how would I know if something was helping me or not? The only MS > symptoms I've had is optic neuritis and they were 17 years apart. > > Jen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Hi all, I have a take on Grains and why they dealt a fit on my body. Simply reason: I lived off of grains and sugar all my life. Where grains became a issue is from the gluten and gluten is a elastic protein (very gooey). I have to tell you I learned that from a Home Ec teacher. Since my consumption just like many others it glues onto your intestinal walls like wallpaper paste. Then what follows the sweet little nutrients can break through to be assumed and assimilated. Then Parasites and candida feed into the ol' grains as well. Once one stays diligent to removing the dried gunk off the intestinal walls they will receive a higher percentage of nutrients and what a relief that can be. Now to do something like this if fasting it works much faster but not 100% necessary. One must stay diligent for sometime as it doesn't work overnight. On my 37 day fast I worked on it 5 days a week with a 2 day break in between. One week would of never cut-it! Now I eat everything not allergic to anything like I was in the past. Oh one more thing Grains also need to be prepared in the sprouting stages if not one doesn't receive the nutrients. Excellent cook book is by Sally Falon, as she will also teach you all WHY questions. You can also learn more about me and my story at www.ginascorner.com and there is a free preview of my book, too. Kopera, M.H. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: Grains and milk You neede glucose but your body an make that out of fat. What do you consider to be good carbs? > As for the comment about carbs. Your brain needs some carbs to function. You need them so that you can think. I can't eat an all " fish or protein " diet because I need the " carbs " to be able to do my job. I don't have an office job where I can day dream. I'm a sign language interpreter and I HAVE TO be able to think. I also have hereditary high cholesterol so I have to be careful about the kind of fat I'm eating. There are " good " carbs and " bad " carbs. I'm eating the " good " carbs! > > > Jen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Hi all, I have a take on Grains and why they dealt a fit on my body. Simply reason: I lived off of grains and sugar all my life. Where grains became a issue is from the gluten and gluten is a elastic protein (very gooey). I have to tell you I learned that from a Home Ec teacher. Since my consumption just like many others it glues onto your intestinal walls like wallpaper paste. Then what follows the sweet little nutrients can break through to be assumed and assimilated. Then Parasites and candida feed into the ol' grains as well. Once one stays diligent to removing the dried gunk off the intestinal walls they will receive a higher percentage of nutrients and what a relief that can be. Now to do something like this if fasting it works much faster but not 100% necessary. One must stay diligent for sometime as it doesn't work overnight. On my 37 day fast I worked on it 5 days a week with a 2 day break in between. One week would of never cut-it! Now I eat everything not allergic to anything like I was in the past. Oh one more thing Grains also need to be prepared in the sprouting stages if not one doesn't receive the nutrients. Excellent cook book is by Sally Falon, as she will also teach you all WHY questions. You can also learn more about me and my story at www.ginascorner.com and there is a free preview of my book, too. Kopera, M.H. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: Grains and milk You neede glucose but your body an make that out of fat. What do you consider to be good carbs? > As for the comment about carbs. Your brain needs some carbs to function. You need them so that you can think. I can't eat an all " fish or protein " diet because I need the " carbs " to be able to do my job. I don't have an office job where I can day dream. I'm a sign language interpreter and I HAVE TO be able to think. I also have hereditary high cholesterol so I have to be careful about the kind of fat I'm eating. There are " good " carbs and " bad " carbs. I'm eating the " good " carbs! > > > Jen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Grains also contain phytic acid and that's why Sally Fallon says to soak them. The problem with carbs according to the book is that they cause a cascade of problems from blood sugar swings, insulin resistance to bone density, and beyond. I'm glad to be reading this book but sorry that I like some of the things the author says to give up. Juicing vegetables is a liquid carb diet, all glucose and no fat. He says that is dangerous but he may not know all. The book is full of scientific references. I didn't eat many carbs today, meat twice and a teaspoon of EVCO twice and a scoop of goat milk ice cream. My feet are still swollen but they don't hurt. It's too soon to tell if this will work for me. So far, so good. It does fit my metabolic type. > > Hi all, > > I have a take on Grains and why they dealt a fit on my body. > > Simply reason: I lived off of grains and sugar all my life. Where grains became a issue is from the gluten and gluten is a elastic protein (very gooey). I have to tell you I learned that from a Home Ec teacher. > > Since my consumption just like many others it glues onto your intestinal walls like wallpaper paste. Then what follows the sweet little nutrients can break through to be assumed and assimilated. Then Parasites and candida feed into the ol' grains as well. > > Once one stays diligent to removing the dried gunk off the intestinal walls they will receive a higher percentage of nutrients and what a relief that can be. > > Now to do something like this if fasting it works much faster but not 100% necessary. One must stay diligent for sometime as it doesn't work overnight. > > On my 37 day fast I worked on it 5 days a week with a 2 day break in between. One week would of never cut-it! > > Now I eat everything not allergic to anything like I was in the past. > > Oh one more thing Grains also need to be prepared in the sprouting stages if not one doesn't receive the nutrients. > > Excellent cook book is by Sally Falon, as she will also teach you all WHY questions. > > You can also learn more about me and my story at www.ginascorner.com and there is a free preview of my book, too. > > Kopera, M.H. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > Re: Grains and milk > > You neede glucose but your body an make that out of fat. What do you consider to be good carbs? > > > > As for the comment about carbs. Your brain needs some carbs to function. You need them so that you can think. I can't eat an all " fish or protein " diet because I need the " carbs " to be able to do my job. I don't have an office job where I can day dream. I'm a sign language interpreter and I HAVE TO be able to think. I also have hereditary high cholesterol so I have to be careful about the kind of fat I'm eating. There are " good " carbs and " bad " carbs. I'm eating the " good " carbs! > > > > > > > Jen > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2010 Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 Grains also contain phytic acid and that's why Sally Fallon says to soak them. The problem with carbs according to the book is that they cause a cascade of problems from blood sugar swings, insulin resistance to bone density, and beyond. I'm glad to be reading this book but sorry that I like some of the things the author says to give up. Juicing vegetables is a liquid carb diet, all glucose and no fat. He says that is dangerous but he may not know all. The book is full of scientific references. I didn't eat many carbs today, meat twice and a teaspoon of EVCO twice and a scoop of goat milk ice cream. My feet are still swollen but they don't hurt. It's too soon to tell if this will work for me. So far, so good. It does fit my metabolic type. > > Hi all, > > I have a take on Grains and why they dealt a fit on my body. > > Simply reason: I lived off of grains and sugar all my life. Where grains became a issue is from the gluten and gluten is a elastic protein (very gooey). I have to tell you I learned that from a Home Ec teacher. > > Since my consumption just like many others it glues onto your intestinal walls like wallpaper paste. Then what follows the sweet little nutrients can break through to be assumed and assimilated. Then Parasites and candida feed into the ol' grains as well. > > Once one stays diligent to removing the dried gunk off the intestinal walls they will receive a higher percentage of nutrients and what a relief that can be. > > Now to do something like this if fasting it works much faster but not 100% necessary. One must stay diligent for sometime as it doesn't work overnight. > > On my 37 day fast I worked on it 5 days a week with a 2 day break in between. One week would of never cut-it! > > Now I eat everything not allergic to anything like I was in the past. > > Oh one more thing Grains also need to be prepared in the sprouting stages if not one doesn't receive the nutrients. > > Excellent cook book is by Sally Falon, as she will also teach you all WHY questions. > > You can also learn more about me and my story at www.ginascorner.com and there is a free preview of my book, too. > > Kopera, M.H. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > Re: Grains and milk > > You neede glucose but your body an make that out of fat. What do you consider to be good carbs? > > > > As for the comment about carbs. Your brain needs some carbs to function. You need them so that you can think. I can't eat an all " fish or protein " diet because I need the " carbs " to be able to do my job. I don't have an office job where I can day dream. I'm a sign language interpreter and I HAVE TO be able to think. I also have hereditary high cholesterol so I have to be careful about the kind of fat I'm eating. There are " good " carbs and " bad " carbs. I'm eating the " good " carbs! > > > > > > > Jen > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Hi - The comment about her book, just like any author you pick and choose what makes most sense to you. As far a juicing is concerned, I didn't make it anywhere till my PowerHouse fast. I can remember when I first started with this whole crusade. I thought I could be the a Deen of juicing and make everything taste so good. Needless to say the experiment failed. One needs to juice low carb vegetables, and I wont lie...It doesn't taste the greatest, because of all green vegetables...no fruit with exception of lemon...Greens are least amount of carbs and one doesn't tend to go overboard. Have you tried working on the kidneys for your swollen issue? Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera M.H. © Copyright 2007 www.sCorner.com . All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 11:07:05 PM Subject: Re: Grains and milk Grains also contain phytic acid and that's why Sally Fallon says to soak them. The problem with carbs according to the book is that they cause a cascade of problems from blood sugar swings, insulin resistance to bone density, and beyond. I'm glad to be reading this book but sorry that I like some of the things the author says to give up. Juicing vegetables is a liquid carb diet, all glucose and no fat. He says that is dangerous but he may not know all. The book is full of scientific references. I didn't eat many carbs today, meat twice and a teaspoon of EVCO twice and a scoop of goat milk ice cream. My feet are still swollen but they don't hurt. It's too soon to tell if this will work for me. So far, so good. It does fit my metabolic type. > > Hi all, > > I have a take on Grains and why they dealt a fit on my body. > > Simply reason: I lived off of grains and sugar all my life. Where grains became >a issue is from the gluten and gluten is a elastic protein (very gooey). I have >to tell you I learned that from a Home Ec teacher. > > Since my consumption just like many others it glues onto your intestinal walls >like wallpaper paste. Then what follows the sweet little nutrients can break >through to be assumed and assimilated. Then Parasites and candida feed into the >ol' grains as well. > > Once one stays diligent to removing the dried gunk off the intestinal walls >they will receive a higher percentage of nutrients and what a relief that can >be. > > Now to do something like this if fasting it works much faster but not 100% >necessary. One must stay diligent for sometime as it doesn't work overnight. > > > On my 37 day fast I worked on it 5 days a week with a 2 day break in between. >One week would of never cut-it! > > Now I eat everything not allergic to anything like I was in the past. > > Oh one more thing Grains also need to be prepared in the sprouting stages if >not one doesn't receive the nutrients. > > Excellent cook book is by Sally Falon, as she will also teach you all WHY >questions. > > You can also learn more about me and my story at www.ginascorner.com and there >is a free preview of my book, too. > > Kopera, M.H. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > Re: Grains and milk > > You neede glucose but your body an make that out of fat. What do you consider >to be good carbs? > > > > > As for the comment about carbs. Your brain needs some carbs to >function. You need them so that you can think. I can't eat an all " fish or >protein " diet because I need the " carbs " to be able to do my job. I don't have >an office job where I can day dream. I'm a sign language interpreter and I HAVE >TO be able to think. I also have hereditary high cholesterol so I have to be >careful about the kind of fat I'm eating. There are " good " carbs and " bad " >carbs. I'm eating the " good " carbs! > > > > > > > Jen > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Hi - The comment about her book, just like any author you pick and choose what makes most sense to you. As far a juicing is concerned, I didn't make it anywhere till my PowerHouse fast. I can remember when I first started with this whole crusade. I thought I could be the a Deen of juicing and make everything taste so good. Needless to say the experiment failed. One needs to juice low carb vegetables, and I wont lie...It doesn't taste the greatest, because of all green vegetables...no fruit with exception of lemon...Greens are least amount of carbs and one doesn't tend to go overboard. Have you tried working on the kidneys for your swollen issue? Have a Happy and Healthy Day, Kopera M.H. © Copyright 2007 www.sCorner.com . All rights reserved | Privacy Policy WARNING: None of the above statements have been evaluated or approved by the Food and Drug Administration or the American Medical Association. The information provided on this site is intended for your general knowledge only and is not a substitute for professional medical advice or treatment for specific medical conditions. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health care provider before using any herbal products. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 11:07:05 PM Subject: Re: Grains and milk Grains also contain phytic acid and that's why Sally Fallon says to soak them. The problem with carbs according to the book is that they cause a cascade of problems from blood sugar swings, insulin resistance to bone density, and beyond. I'm glad to be reading this book but sorry that I like some of the things the author says to give up. Juicing vegetables is a liquid carb diet, all glucose and no fat. He says that is dangerous but he may not know all. The book is full of scientific references. I didn't eat many carbs today, meat twice and a teaspoon of EVCO twice and a scoop of goat milk ice cream. My feet are still swollen but they don't hurt. It's too soon to tell if this will work for me. So far, so good. It does fit my metabolic type. > > Hi all, > > I have a take on Grains and why they dealt a fit on my body. > > Simply reason: I lived off of grains and sugar all my life. Where grains became >a issue is from the gluten and gluten is a elastic protein (very gooey). I have >to tell you I learned that from a Home Ec teacher. > > Since my consumption just like many others it glues onto your intestinal walls >like wallpaper paste. Then what follows the sweet little nutrients can break >through to be assumed and assimilated. Then Parasites and candida feed into the >ol' grains as well. > > Once one stays diligent to removing the dried gunk off the intestinal walls >they will receive a higher percentage of nutrients and what a relief that can >be. > > Now to do something like this if fasting it works much faster but not 100% >necessary. One must stay diligent for sometime as it doesn't work overnight. > > > On my 37 day fast I worked on it 5 days a week with a 2 day break in between. >One week would of never cut-it! > > Now I eat everything not allergic to anything like I was in the past. > > Oh one more thing Grains also need to be prepared in the sprouting stages if >not one doesn't receive the nutrients. > > Excellent cook book is by Sally Falon, as she will also teach you all WHY >questions. > > You can also learn more about me and my story at www.ginascorner.com and there >is a free preview of my book, too. > > Kopera, M.H. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > Re: Grains and milk > > You neede glucose but your body an make that out of fat. What do you consider >to be good carbs? > > > > > As for the comment about carbs. Your brain needs some carbs to >function. You need them so that you can think. I can't eat an all " fish or >protein " diet because I need the " carbs " to be able to do my job. I don't have >an office job where I can day dream. I'm a sign language interpreter and I HAVE >TO be able to think. I also have hereditary high cholesterol so I have to be >careful about the kind of fat I'm eating. There are " good " carbs and " bad " >carbs. I'm eating the " good " carbs! > > > > > > > Jen > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 There are several things about this post that make sense to me. The vegetables are low carb and juicing removes fiber. Not eating carbs improves kidney function according to Dr. Rieske but it also helps lymph and blood circulation, which is what I think has been my problem. I sit all day and the lymph is causing the swelling. Today my nose is running a lot and I don't have a cold or allergy. It's a beautiful day. I think that not eating carbs also helps with excess mucus. I haven't gotten far enough into the book to read about that. I slept well last night without shifting because my tailbone hurt. If I can fix that with this diet I will be on cloud nine! I've only been doing this for a couple of days and I can already see a difference, small but noticeable. The oatmeal was helping my hair (silica) but I would be happy bald if not eating it would help me to walk! I can see where the fast would get you started. I was a raw food vegan and it helped me find the next step. It is an evolutionary journey. > > Hi - > > The comment about his book, just like any author you pick and choose what makes > most sense to you. > > > As far a juicing is concerned, I didn't make it anywhere till my PowerHouse > fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 But if this were the case...the way most americans/people eat, wouldn't everyone have MS? > > Molecular mimicry (which is the reason for eliminating gluten/casein/legumes in the BBD) is a completely separate issue from food sensitivities or allergies: > > http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/NutritionMS/Toohey.pdf > > Crystal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 No, because how disease manifests in each of us is different, and our guts are all different. The process is this: leaky gut---> food allergies---> hyper-stimulated immune system ---> autoimmune disease. Could end up being rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, MS, etc. For those who ended up with MS, the molecular mimicry is an issue because it's the brain being attacked and those proteins are so similar. I don't believe this is the only path to MS, there's so many cases of mercury toxicity, chiropractic injury, CCSVI, etc. MS is the set of symptoms we end up with after going down one of the many paths. Once we have it, though, I don't see any good reason to antagonize the situation by eating those foods. Good to see you ! Crystal > > But if this were the case...the way most americans/people eat, wouldn't everyone have MS? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 I've been reading about the Devil in the Milk, A1 and A2 protein. A1 milk is made from modern hybrid cows, Black and white cows. A2 is made from older breeds, guernsey, jersey. A1 is damaged protein. Goat milk does not have the same issues. I think pasteurized milk is mostly from A1 cows and besides having damaged protein it contains antibiotics, hormones and genetically modified corn. > > No, because how disease manifests in each of us is different, and our guts are all different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2010 Report Share Posted October 3, 2010 > > I've been reading about the Devil in the Milk, A1 and A2 protein. A1 milk is made from modern hybrid cows, Black and white cows. A2 is made from older breeds, guernsey, jersey. A1 is damaged protein. Goat milk does not have the same issues. I think pasteurized milk is mostly from A1 cows and besides having damaged protein it contains antibiotics, hormones and genetically modified corn. > Thanks for the info, I had seen references to the A1 and A2 but hadn't delved into it yet. Unfortunately, I personally react to goat's milk too. It popped up on my ELISA this past spring. Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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