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Arrianna,

Although I haven't had the surgeries, I can offer a different

perspective....you have come through the worst part and survived. The

surgery is over, now you just have to heal.

Also, on a more humorous note, when was shopping for a bra easy? I'll bet

most of us stuck with one style for years when we finally found one that

fit.

My advice would be to go to a department store that has a salesperson who

works in that department (you can call ahead) and explain that you just had

surgery and need help in finding one that fits.

Good luck with your healing...take your vitamins and drink your water.

in Nebraska

Rny 6.21.99

U of MN

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> NatureHI Guys,

> Well Im healing from the breast reduc/lift and panniculectomy finally.

> This is a very long recovery and was not easy. There are many places still

> in my abdomen that are numb or sore and bruised or both. I feel like I'm

> wearing a panty girdle even when I'm not and I'm still wearing a soft bra

24

> hours a day.

> I didn't think it would happen to me but I went shopping for a new bra

> last week (probably too soon to do this) and I came home in tears. Nothing

> fit right or looked right and I'm certainly not used to the new size. Its

> not that I'm morning the loss of my oversized ones, its just that I don't

> understand these and or relate to what to do for a bra or clothes etc. I

> guess I'm not explaining it right... I guess I'm just not used to this

body

> at all so my question is two - fold.......

> 1. How long did it take you folks who have had reconstructive surgery to

get

> used to the new body?

> 2. When does the numbness and discomfort end? Months? weeks?

>

> I thank you in advance and yes I'm trying to be patient but I want to go

to

> the gym and I'm too weak and sore.. etc. and well you know....... lol

Thanks

> for listening.

> Arrianna

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Arrianna:

When was your surgery? I understand your concerns and feeling like an

invalid is certainly a bummer....especially a leaking, hurting invalid.

I had a tt twenty-two years ago, and have another one scheduled for July 20.

Judging from my facelift, the numbness can last quite a while.

Reading your post kind of reminds me of the let-down a lot of us have after

any type of surgery. You run on adrenaline before the surgery and right

afterwards, then you are left with just the physical recovery.

I'm hoping for you that someday soon, it will stop hurting and you'll start

enjoying your new self. Just remember that if you feel like you're walking

around in a tight girdle, you probably look like it too! Pretty soon, maybe

you'll just be able to enjoy the " looking like it " part.

All the best,

Bandas

Austin, TX

RNY 4-28-98, Dr. Selinkoff, San , TX

Then: 305 Now: 190

115 pounds gone forever!

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> NatureHI Guys,

> Well Im healing from the breast reduc/lift and panniculectomy finally.

> This is a very long recovery and was not easy. There are many places still

> in my abdomen that are numb or sore and bruised or both. I feel like I'm

> wearing a panty girdle even when I'm not and I'm still wearing a soft bra

24

> hours a day.

> I didn't think it would happen to me but I went shopping for a new bra

> last week (probably too soon to do this) and I came home in tears. Nothing

> fit right or looked right and I'm certainly not used to the new size. Its

> not that I'm morning the loss of my oversized ones, its just that I don't

> understand these and or relate to what to do for a bra or clothes etc. I

> guess I'm not explaining it right... I guess I'm just not used to this

body

> at all so my question is two - fold.......

> 1. How long did it take you folks who have had reconstructive surgery to

get

> used to the new body?

> 2. When does the numbness and discomfort end? Months? weeks?

>

> I thank you in advance and yes I'm trying to be patient but I want to go

to

> the gym and I'm too weak and sore.. etc. and well you know....... lol

Thanks

> for listening.

> Arrianna

>

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Hi Arrianna!

It takes a while to heal. I had a problem with my panniculectomy healing

properly (a small part of my incision wasn't healing right) and it finally

closed up (the right way) a week ago. I, too, had a breast reduction and belive

you me, it takes time to get used to the new image. I still don't know exactly

what size I am. For the longest I wore the soft bras (still do but change up

with a regular one from time to time). I am wearing my old ones which are much

more comfortable now (and loose). They keep me from jiggling all over. The

swelling has gone down. The numbness....well, it took me almost a year to feel

anything around my RNY incision, so I guess I will be waiting a while for this

one to recover feeling.

The bottom line is that my gratitude is such that I am willing to be patient.

With this stuff (reconstructive surgery) patience is the name of the game. Your

body went through the ordeal of being cut (again) and it takes time (as you

know) to bounce back from that. Look at the small things. The new way that

you look. The different way that you look in clothes. Try not to be impatient.

I read somewhere that it may take more than a few months for our bodies to

settle into the new shape. I am 4 months post op from the surgeries and I am

still seeing changes.

It gets better.

(((HUGS))))

Carol

RNY

10/31/97

Breast Lift & Panniculectomy

3/17/00

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Carol:

I'm having a tt, hernia repair and " chest lift " on July 20. I'm doing it at

an outpatient facility where they're going to observe me for 23 hours, then

send me home. I've got friends to take care of me, but I think I'll have a

nurse come in that first day home. I'm hoping to go to my office for 2-3

hours a week after my surgery to check on stuff. Is this reasonable?

Thanks,

Bandas

Austin, TX

RNY 4-28-98, Dr. Selinkoff, San , TX

Then: 305 Now: 190

115 pounds gone forever!

P.S. The " hernia thing " is actually a solid feeling piece of something that

is about the size of a fat cigar that runs along my incision line under the

skin. The WLS doc says it's scar tissue and sutures, but it pops up and

down over the bottom of my sternum and is really strange. Every doctor

who's looked at it just kind of gawks in amazement. Anyone hear of this?

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> Hi Arrianna!

> It takes a while to heal

> The bottom line is that my gratitude is such that I am willing to be

patient. With this stuff (reconstructive surgery) patience is the name of

the game. Your body went through the ordeal of being cut (again) and it

takes time (as you know) to bounce back from that

> Carol

> RNY

> 10/31/97

> Breast Lift & Panniculectomy

> 3/17/00

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It is reasonable if you are Superman!!

While I was in no way as incapacitated as i was with the RNY, my energy stores

were very low the first 3 weeks or so. I could sit upright and walk about and

do stuff for only for about 90 minutes, max. I would rest for an hour or so and

then get up for 30 minutes or more then rest. I REALLY paid for it when I went

over that 90 minute limit.

The thing that you must keep in mind is that the success of this and any other

surgery is mainly dependent on you getting your REST. I can't emphasis that

enough. You will probably be tempted to do a lot because of how much better you

feel initially. But when the fatigue sets in - you can do some serious damage

to your body.

Anyhow, go slow. Going into the office (unless it is located in your home) a

week after surgery is not a good thing. Give yourself some time. You'll be

glad that you did.

Good luck on the new you!!

Carol

Richmond, VA

118 lbs gone!

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>>>> But what I'm saying is

that I'm reaching the point where I can go out in public and feel

" normal " .

I think of myself as being clean & tidy & normal. But it doesn't take

much

to make me crawl back inside myself to hide.

>>>>>>

ditto for me too - probably lots of us. it is strange how the summer

clothing or lack of has caused more comments than the past several months.

I was in walmart and as soon as I turned down an aisle, all alone on that

aisle, a man walked by and whistled.

I knew I was alone but had to look around just the same.

that was the second time that happened last week and lately I've been

traveling up and down the interstate alot and the truckers are really being

overlyfriendly with the waving and horn blowing - must be the shorts and

all the leg showing or something. people keep asking if I'm still losing

and telling me I need to stop but it's actually about 7months that I've

been stable or longer even. I'm not ashamed to eat in public anymore though

- remember how you felt eating an ice cream cone in the middle of the mall

and it seemed like everyone was staring and thinking why does that fat girl

need to eat that ice cream.

sue

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,

How I remember that....now I do feel that people don't stare...but I

purchased a diet Pepsi today and had the audacity to buy a small box of

cookies to take to my son....in front of two college students....the same

feeling...whispering, pointing, etc.

in Nebraska

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> ICE CREAM!? I had 'em give me filthy looks when I ate SALAD in public!

How

> DARE I hurt their eyes by actually EATING right in front of them!

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In a message dated 7/10/00 8:26:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

dbandas@... writes:

<< I'm hoping to go to my office for 2-3

hours a week after my surgery to check on stuff. Is this reasonable? >>

,

I think you are being OVERLY OPTIMISTIC. I would NOT go into the office for 3

weeks at all. But me, I am allergic to PAIN! ;^)

In Charlottesville VA

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I am currently finishing

> reading " Overcoming Overeating " which explains that we think " fat "

> thoughts when the real problem is too overwhelming to contemplate.

>

Hi ,

That sounds interesting, but I am not sure I follow. Could you expand

on this a bit? What are " fat " thoughts? And when you say, " the real

problem " , do you mean the problem of being overweight or other type

problems?

As for giving you tips, I am sorry I cannot help you with that. I have

the world's worst body image. I won't even look in the mirror most of

the time.

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I am working on this as well. I look forward to any ideas and suggestions. In the past, when I was healthier and lighter I felt better about my body that I currently do. I am hoping that as I utilize IE in time a better body image will come. It is very hard with the media and our society as a whole.

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Subject: Body ImageTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Date: Friday, July 18, 2008, 11:01 AM

Anyone have any good suggestions for improving body image? I have just returned from a few days away, and although I can see that I am much more in tune with my hunger and satiety, I spent WAAAYYY too much time feeling self-conscious of my body.My head knows that there are smaller and larger people out there - and I saw them in various stages of scantily-dressednes s - but why do I spend so much energy in self-loathing? ? I am currently finishing reading "Overcoming Overeating" which explains that we think "fat" thoughts when the real problem is too overwhelming to contemplate.Any advice would be welcome...

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, there are body image books/web sites in the Files and Links

here at the IE Support site. These made the list because someone here

liked them enough to suggest them. You may want to try your library as

well as online book sites (including Paperback Swap) to see if you can

find one of these for yourself.

Best to you - Katcha

>

> Anyone have any good suggestions for improving body image? I have just

> returned from a few days away, and although I can see that I am much

> more in tune with my hunger and satiety, I spent WAAAYYY too much time

> feeling self-conscious of my body.

>

> My head knows that there are smaller and larger people out there - and

> I saw them in various stages of scantily-dressedness - but why do I

> spend so much energy in self-loathing?? I am currently finishing

> reading " Overcoming Overeating " which explains that we think " fat "

> thoughts when the real problem is too overwhelming to contemplate.

>

> Any advice would be welcome...

>

>

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There a 'trick' to looking in a mirror - the SMALLER the mirror, the

better the reflection - LOL!!! Count me in the 'mirror shocked' (who

is THAT?!?) group - giggles - Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Me, too, .

>

> I have

> > the world's worst body image. I won't even look in the mirror most of

> > the time.

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When I'm having a bad body day (week, month, you know...) I find that

doing something nice for myself really helps. I am all about a nice

pedicure and some kicky sandles or a figure flattering outfit.

Sometimes I actually talk to myself in the mirror - I may have a

tummy, but that is the tummy I earned bringing my son into the

world. The girls may not be where they were in my 20's, but they did

their job feeding my little guy.

And when all else fails - soft lighting and strecthy clothes. :)

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> > Me, too, .

> >

> > I have

> > > the world's worst body image. I won't even look in the mirror

most of

> > > the time.

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The book " Overcoming Overeating " explains that compulsive eaters

(like me) turn to food for emotional reasons. We need comfort in the

face of anxiety or other discomforting emotions. Then, because we

feel " bad " for having eaten, the problem is transformed. The

original problem is lost and the thoughts focus on " Oh I am bad...I

am out of control...I ate that whole box of cookies when I am not

even hungry " Now the " problem " becomes us and who we are, which

seems controllable through yet another diet. The " fat " thoughts

distract us from ever addressing the real problem and we stay stuck,

coping in a understandable, but not effective, way.

This example from my own life: I had an epiphany several years ago

before I ever read Intuitive Eating. I was in my kitchen, standing

in front of the open cabinets and caught myself preparing to " zone

out " with a box of cookies. At that point in my life, I had accepted

that I had a need to binge, but I had a flashback to my thought

previous to desperately searching the cabinets. I realized that I

was REALLY P.O.'d at my husband, but I didn't feel good about being

angry and I certainly didn't feel like I could confront him about

it. So, feeling powerless and unacceptable, I was going to numb

myself and binge on whatever I found, and not " come to " until my

fingers scraped the bottom of the now-empty box.

Not long after this, I did return to therapy and found better ways to

express myself to my husband, but I still struggle with accepting

myself and ALL my emotions.

> I am currently finishing

> > reading " Overcoming Overeating " which explains that we

think " fat "

> > thoughts when the real problem is too overwhelming to contemplate.

> >

> Hi ,

> That sounds interesting, but I am not sure I follow. Could you

expand

> on this a bit? What are " fat " thoughts? And when you say, " the real

> problem " , do you mean the problem of being overweight or other type

> problems?

>

> As for giving you tips, I am sorry I cannot help you with that. I

have

> the world's worst body image. I won't even look in the mirror most

of

> the time.

>

>

>

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