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Ann,

the thyroid controls so many functions in the body including the fluid to the

joints. So if you fix your thyroid your arthritis pain may very well go away!!.

Lori

ABerry3837@... wrote:

> In a message dated 3/12/2000 12:42:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, BU007@...

> writes:

>

> > What are you doing taking prednisone? This glucocorticoid is a

> >

> >

> For rheumatoid arthritis.

> I can't take anything related to aspirin.

>

> Usually I'm taking 5 mg a day of prednisone. I keep planning to taper off of

> it but haven't be able to so far. I have to be able to walk.

>

> It's puzzling cause I don't have any deformities or real signs of rheumatoid

> arthritis.

> Just heat and swelling and pain mostly in my feet and recently, since I

> started hormone replacement, it's in my hands.

>

> Prednisone or high doses of DHEA fixes it.

>

> As I see how much my endocrine status changes my arthritis

> I have hopes that the bout with Graves disease turns out to be a blessing.

>

> All my health problems started at age 50 probably about the time when

> hormones get out of balance. Maybe that's the key.

>

> It may be my imagination but since I started Armour thyroid my arthritis is

> better..it's too soon to be sure.

>

> Any ideas?

>

> Ann

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In a message dated 4/7/00 8:40:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

pneuenhoffski@... writes:

<< I spent

all day on this pc today searching, reading, typing, instead of doing my

house chores. . >>

I know what you mean. We gotta leave off some things to learn new things to

be healthier. Everything slides when i get concerned and try to make effort

for positive change. Then, seems like catching up is a battle. I have been

online and trying to plot a course of dieting and activity that's not too

complicated. One day i just have to believe, i'll be out of pain, and

directing things in my own life, as if i had a say-so. Now i just seem to

hang on. But i know i will keep trying to be like i feel i can be; but i'm

too pooped, right now. So it's a little slow.

Ann

in Florida

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Pam, don't feel badly about spending all day on the computer; I do the same

thing some days!! I think it's great that we can share what we learn with

others and maybe we won't need to spend so much time on the computer!?

About your calcium concern, some veggies have a lot of calcium. I'm going

to order a book on the nutritional contents of food (I used to have one)so I

can be sure of getting a balance, especially of calcium. (I've also started

taking a calcium supplement.) I just read an article about supplements

which said that tablets pass through our bodies intact and therefore don't

benefit us; it recommended taking gelatin capsules or liquids. If you have

a book, look up veggies, especially kale, collards, swiss chard, and

broccoli. If I remember correctly, they have a hefty amount of calcium. If

we ate the quantity of veggies that Dr. D'Adamo suggests, I think most of

our calcium needs would be met. Take care. Louise

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Yes, Ann, maybe if I weren't so worried about get pregnant, then I

would be very happy with the diet. Although there is still the issue of

calcium. But I feel great while I am eating my beef with my vegs.

Although I have had to up my vegs to counteract the candida. But anyway,

within time I guess. And I would hope the time would come soon. I spent

all day on this pc today searching, reading, typing, instead of doing my

house chores. Pam.

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Yes, I take liquid kelp - I wonder how much calcium is in that? Ha ha,

it probably has none.

Yes, I had tried the rye crisps with sesame and my movements were very

loose. I would love to try the ezekiel bread with sesame but I am afraid

to. I don't think the rye crisps had any bad ingredients in them. SO I

just figured it was the sesame. Pam.

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Some rye crisps have corn in them. Louise

>From: Pamela E Neuenhoff <pneuenhoffski@...>

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>Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:32:30 -0400

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>Yes, I take liquid kelp - I wonder how much calcium is in that? Ha ha,

>it probably has none.

>

>Yes, I had tried the rye crisps with sesame and my movements were very

>loose. I would love to try the ezekiel bread with sesame but I am afraid

>to. I don't think the rye crisps had any bad ingredients in them. SO I

>just figured it was the sesame. Pam.

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Thanks Pam,

I was so curious about that liquid thyroid. And i never thought to 'chart'

my own thyroid by taking temps, but, i guess that makes sense. So...... low

temps, we just knock off the soy sauce right?

Ann

in Florida

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I bought my liquid kelp at the health food store. It states to take 2

drops a day. I take more due to the soy liquids I take. I read that soy

can make thyroids hypo, and that is the last thing I want. But I use my

basal temps to check for using too much kelp. Pam.

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I buy kelp granules and use it like salt. I have heard that too much kelp

will cause headaches.

What is the basal temps method ?

.

Re: Ann

I bought my liquid kelp at the health food store. It states to take 2

drops a day. I take more due to the soy liquids I take. I read that soy

can make thyroids hypo, and that is the last thing I want. But I use my

basal temps to check for using too much kelp. Pam.

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AAahhhhh, throw that soy sauce out!!! Mine has corn syrup and lactase in

it. Plus mine says to refigerate - and we keep it in the cupboard. You

can tell, we don't use it much.

So if your temps are low, add kelp to your diet. If they are high, lower

the doseage or stop it alltogether. Pam.

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My hubby thinks I am wacko on this diet.

Even before I found this diet, I saw what milk products did to me and my

son, and my dh still poo pooed the idea.

He is a stubborn person. So I will not receive any endorcement at all

from him.

Although, he does tell our son to curtail his sweets and to eat more

healthy, so that is a start. but he would not insist our son to give up

the avoid foods - probably because he himself could not give them up. So

I trudge alone and influence when I can. Pam.

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In a message dated 4/10/00 11:44:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

pneuenhoffski@... writes:

<< and influence when I can. >>

Yeah! That's It!

People aren't always enthusiastic about my ideas here, too. Any way, you and

i will live right as we can. I know i just want to shine brighter. I feel

like a 25 watt bulb and should be a 100. Others can be stubborn if they want

to. I gotta giddyUP!

Bye,

Hang In There!

Ann

in Florida

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On 23 Oct 00, at 15:30, Chestnut wrote:

> Did you take vitamin B Ann. THis often causes the colour urine you have

> mentioned. Also with a strong odour.

No more than usual. I've been taking a multivitamin with Vit B in for

about a month, but never sen thsi before. No odour at all, though.

Weird. It's fading now.Must haev been some weird combination of

foods I ate!

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Actually, ignore that! I took a different brand today - got three of the

new improved all-singing-all-dancing Solgar multivitamins free last

week, and took one of those this mornign. They're stronger. That

msut be it.

Bizzarre..... :)

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hi,

Greg here.I just had a question for anyone who can help.

what is everyone taking for pain. i know you have to take something occasionally. at least i do. ive had some doc. tell me no tylenol at all and some tell me a little bit is ok.most say no asprin because of the blood thinning. i just had 3 wisdom teeth pulled and they knew my liver problems and he gave me vicodin and percocet 5 for pain.i dont know what to take.

HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONFUSED IN NM

GREG

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T, what liver disorder do you have? You say your doctor wouldn't give you cough medicine that contained alcohol. I have AIH; once my liver levels were okay, my doctor told me I could drink (in moderation, of course) as alcohol and AIH are two different "situations", as far as the liver is concerned. I very, very rarely drink now, although I like knowing I can.

Harper (5/00 AIH)

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Debbie, you say you broke your ankle -- we may have discussed this, but have you had a bone density test? Are you taking calcium w/Vitamin D and perhaps Fosamax? Broken ankles often signal a bone problem.

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Hello , I like you when on higher mg's would just about eat anything that did not move but is not so bad at the the lower doses. I do not take anything unless my Dr tells me I can.I was not allowed aspirin by the eye Dr years ago. I Dr at Mayo sdale since '98 and have complete faith. My discomfort has been much better today so I assume it is from the therapy and exercises I was given to do. The glucosamine takes about 2-3 mo. to be effective and it is not for pain but for cartlidge protection.

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Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 9:24 PM

Subject: [ ] Ann

Hello,

I got down to 5mg. a day , but I like 10 mg. Pred. every other day better. Now I am trying 7 and 1/2 every other day and won't go any lower. I ate everything in sight when I first started the pred. in the fall of 1997. I take 50 mg 6MP, same as Imuran.

As far as pain medication goes, you should ask your doctor. My doctor told me no aspirin products because it is too rough on the stomach because of the pred. He said I could take 1 tylenol if I was desparate. He made it sound like 1 a year, so I am afraid of it. Other people on this list do take pain pills

I just use plastic bags of ice on my head for headaches and for fever. You also have to find out which anti-biotics your doctor thinks are "liver-friendly". The doctor wouldn't give me cough medicine for bronchitis because it has alcohol, but the inhaler worked great, once I got the hang of it.

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Greg,

I was given the same thing when I broke my ankle and It didn't seem

to bother me. I'm due for another blood work up but the last one was

OK. I broke my ankle on St 's Day. No, I was not drinking.

LOL

Debbie/FL

> hi,

> Greg here.I just had a question for anyone who can help.

> what is everyone taking for pain. i know you have to take something

> occasionally. at least i do. ive had some doc. tell me no tylenol

at all and

> some tell me a little bit is ok.most say no asprin because of the

blood

> thinning. i just had 3 wisdom teeth pulled and they knew my liver

problems

> and he gave me vicodin and percocet 5 for pain.i dont know what to

take.

> HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> CONFUSED IN NM

>

> GREG

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Harper,

Yes, I had the bone density and it came out great. I take calcium

and D in my everyday vitamin. The general one. (?)

Debbie/FL

> Debbie, you say you broke your ankle -- we may have discussed this,

but have

> you had a bone density test? Are you taking calcium w/Vitamin D

and perhaps

> Fosamax? Broken ankles often signal a bone problem.

> Harper

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Just my two cents worth: I can't imagine any doctor telling a patient with AIH that is okay to drink alcohol, even with normal LFT's.

Bonnie P.

AIH and post transplant

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How are you? My name is Rosemary and 19 year old son has AIH. We share and learn so many things about AIH on this sight. Welcome and ask away and we will try to answer.

Rosemary

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Ann that is so true. Hunt gets his labs done at Lab Corp. and I have noticed that within the last 6 months they have changed their numbers for normal. For AST and alt's it used to be 60 and below and now it is 40 and below. I guess they change the test or the way that are run or something. Who knows. we just have to trust them to know what they are doing and try to be as informed as possible, Hope you have a good day tomorrow.

Rosemary

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--- mamacdoo@... wrote:

> How are you? My name is Rosemary and 19 year old son

> has AIH. We share and

> learn so many things about AIH on this sight.

> Welcome and ask away and we

> will try to answer.

>

> Rosemary

>

HELLO ROSEMARY

IT SEEMS THAT LIVER ENZYME NUMBERS DIFFER FROM ONE

MEDICAL FACILITY TO ANOTHER FOR EXAMPLE THE RED CROSS

WHEN EXAMINING BLOOD FOR DONATION,PRIMARY PHYSICIAN

LAB,A LARGE TEACHING HOSPITAL ALL USED A DIFFERENT

NUMBER FOR A NORMAL ENZYME LEVEL FOR ME. IT IS

CONFUSING THAT THERE IS NO STANDARD NUMBER. HAVE YOU

FOUND THIS TO BE TRUE.

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In a message dated 5/28/01 8:17:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, BonManPat@... writes:

Just my two cents worth: I can't imagine any doctor telling a patient with AIH that is okay to drink alcohol, even with normal LFT's.

I was surprised, too, and I asked him twice about drinking. I'm not really interested in alcohol, never have been, so my "drinking" now is in the form of the occasional celebration toast or a couple of sips of wine if an exceptional bottle comes along. That's my choice, because I'm really conservative medically nowdays. I've had one Tylenol in a year, when I had some really bad form of flu that my husband brought back from a Pacific Rim country.

Harper

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