Guest guest Posted June 28, 2001 Report Share Posted June 28, 2001 Ann, It sounds like the higher dosage of azathioprine is what is causing the problem. There are others in this group that have the same problem. I am sure you will hear from them shortly. My son take 150mgs of azathioprine and it does not seem to affect him at all and he weighs less than 150lbs. What is good for some is not good for all? I hope you feel better soon. Rosemary azathioprine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2001 Report Share Posted August 21, 2001 Hi Ann: That is great news, I hope everything continues to go your way. As we all know prayers do work. God Bless, Genny/Jodi's Mom Living Donor Transplant 5-18-01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 Ann, I had my MGB in Jan, and around 4 or 5 months I lost a lot of hair, I had very thin hair on top to begin with, and when this started it was awful. I go do my hair once a week for years, and had been using a wiglet to mix in with my own hair on top, but I lost so much hair on top and sides, there was nothing to attach the wiglet to. So I bought 2 full wigs, and have been using them, I can put them on myself, so I try not to go every week now, so I do not tease and dye all the time, and giving my own hair a chance , when I am just in the house I stay without the wig, but if anyone comes over or even if I run to the store or walk I put the wig on. Now I have been seeing a lot of new growth, it is like peach fuz but at least it is growing in and not so much is coming out. If need to I can use the wiglet to mix in with my own hair again, but If I am not going somewhere special I use just the whole wig, I put on myself. It will grow back it takes time, and I do not think there is anything to help it grow back, time has to pass. See you at the picnic. Rosemary Commisso (Jan26,2001 297-213 DrR) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 I have been seeing Dr. Gross at Mayo currently. He has also consulted with a Dr. I guess who does a lot of publication for PBC. This doctor that you mentioned does sound familiar but I can't place him yet. I have worked as a nurse for mayo for a long time. Alot of the docs that are now consultants at the clinic did their residency at the hospital. We got to know many of the doc's during this time. My floor that I work on in the hospital tends to have patients with multisystem organ problems. So we see a lot of patients with AIH, dialysis, diabetics, MRSA, etc. Not sure when you last seen Dr. Czaja but they have opened the new gondala building and I hear that it is beautiful. I wonder if our 19th floor hepatology department will be moving over there. I have not heard yet. Good luck... Ann Re: [ ] Ann > Since last October, that's when we took Raj to Mayo for the first time, the > doctor has been Dr. Czaja. It is upon his recommendation that we are now > tapering prednisone as long term usage risks of Pred are significant and > need to be weighed in on the benefits vs risk analysis. Our son has been on > Pred for 2 1/2 years now. Raj also has a gastroentrologist in Madison > (Univ. Wis. Hospital) who is his primary contact for day to day needs > (blood tests, medication, other problems etc.). The hospital in Madison > also has a hepatologist whom we have consulted on ocassions. As I > indicated before, when it comes to AIH, at times we have gotten advice that > is quite different depending upon whom you asked. In our case, Dr. Czaja > has the most experience with AIH and we tend to weigh that heavily in our > decisions. > > >From your previous post I understand that you are also going to Mayo, > Rochester. Whom do you see there? > > Take care, > > aumesh > ------------- > At 12:32 PM 10/24/2001 -0000, you wrote: > >Aumesh > >I would be interested to know who you are consulting with at Mayo Rochester. > >I am too seeing someone at mayo rochester and have some knowledge of their > >system. > >annMN > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2001 Report Share Posted October 25, 2001 Since last October, that's when we took Raj to Mayo for the first time, the doctor has been Dr. Czaja. It is upon his recommendation that we are now tapering prednisone as long term usage risks of Pred are significant and need to be weighed in on the benefits vs risk analysis. Our son has been on Pred for 2 1/2 years now. Raj also has a gastroentrologist in Madison (Univ. Wis. Hospital) who is his primary contact for day to day needs (blood tests, medication, other problems etc.). The hospital in Madison also has a hepatologist whom we have consulted on ocassions. As I indicated before, when it comes to AIH, at times we have gotten advice that is quite different depending upon whom you asked. In our case, Dr. Czaja has the most experience with AIH and we tend to weigh that heavily in our decisions. From your previous post I understand that you are also going to Mayo, Rochester. Whom do you see there? Take care, aumesh ------------- At 12:32 PM 10/24/2001 -0000, you wrote: >Aumesh >I would be interested to know who you are consulting with at Mayo Rochester. >I am too seeing someone at mayo rochester and have some knowledge of their >system. >annMN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2002 Report Share Posted January 10, 2002 In a message dated 1/10/02 9:30:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, sunshinedotson@... writes: (just for info. the energizer bunny is on commercials for Energizer Battery Co. the pink bunny has a drum hanging from its belly and its pounding on it with sticks.....going around and around and around....!!) Bert, in the high-Prednisone days, I often compared myself with the competitor in the Energizer Bunny ads -- the figures that ran around doing everything -- and then suddenly stopped dead in their tracks. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2002 Report Share Posted January 11, 2002 Sorry I missed you on chat tonight. My turn down to my Dad's. About the m & m's. My were peanut ones also, didn't eat the whole bag only had a few. Not suppose to eat them at all, but we do tend to cheat once in a while. I'm really glad to see you posting again. I've missed seeing the sunshine. Today wasn't a very good day for me. Ending up laying down at my Dad's for a couple of hours, which is very unusual for me. I try to push myself to the limit and suffer afterwards. New Year's resolution - Take care of me - The heck with the rest. Feeling better now. I can't stand the roller coaster. Feel good one day and lousy the next. I'm seeing my liver doctor next week and will find out what's been going on. Take care. Ann CTSorry I [ ] Ann hey you.....eating M & M 's huh???? (the other day)HA! mine were the peanut ones too!!i ate the whole BAG!! : )did you???? LOL!i did get a good chuckle out of that one...thanks!thanks for you concerns about the other night....i am feeling much better, just uncomfortable....can't really sit down for too long, get stiff...gotta keep moving!! HA! alex keeps me going like the "ENERGIZER BUNNY" i just keep goin' and goin' and goin' and goin' and goin'....LOL! want me to keep "GOIN".....LOL!(just for info. the energizer bunny is on commercials for Energizer Battery Co. the pink bunny has a drum hanging from its belly and its pounding on it with sticks.....going around and around and around....!!)HA! don't know if you get the same commercials i do LOL! ....this is just too much....gotta laugh that i had to explain my joke......there are so many of us SPREAD OUT!! HA! just too darn funny!!BUT! we all feel so close....(HUGS) hope you have a great day!i will try to be on chat tonight, i notice i am really worn out by the time you all are home. but i have so much fun with you all on chat...so i wil try......WOW! 3 of us the last time!.....maybe more will join??? .....(suttle hint there eehh??) we already recruited ONE LURKER! (ssshh....it's lyn (ark)...ssshh...)LOLOLOL!!!!!! : )many hugs....ttyl...bert. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2002 Report Share Posted July 22, 2002 Hello Ann, I realised that that was a stupid question after I'd hit the send button. Of course you would have done net research! : ) I imagine you have also tried the links below? The first one is probably the best, but the others apply, too. www.alkalizeforhealth.net www.ida.net/users/srdist/harmful.htm www.aubrey-organics.com/about/treat_10synth.cfm www.alass.com/articles/canola_oil.htm www.clearcomplexions.com/rateyour.htm www.laughinghara.com/Meridians.htm#Meridians Love, JK Re: Hi, I'm back Thanks , Yes, I have done loads of research on the net and am doing well. For me at this point, I need to be aware of the stressors in my life and how I handle them. Exercise, rest, meditation, faith, relaxing and having fun are all very important ingredients for being well as well as a good diet. Have been following the O diet for several years now and just need to stay on course with it. Thanks for your support, Ann Hi, I'm back Hi there! I have been away from the group for 6 months after having a battle with cancer - surgery in January but no radiation or chemo - however, I am taking lots of supps to support health and supps that are anti-cancer prescribed by my naturopath ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2002 Report Share Posted October 7, 2002 It is fantastic that Ann is giving this procedure the recognition it deserves. It's one thing for all of us to expound on the virtues of the Lap-Band and quite another for her to do it. I heard that Sharon Osborne also had this procedure but I've never read anything about it. She's certainly in the spotlight these days. I'm going to forward this website to all my thin friends that think I'm nuts for having the surgery in the first place. is Dr. Rumbat 12/07/01 195/153/125(goal) > Ann has a featured section on the " Spotlife Health " website. > Actually, the entire portion of the website dedicated to the band is > one of the best I have seen to date. I highly recommend it for > anyone researching the band. Ann's portion of the site is totally > excellent. It has video interview's, updates on her progress, and a > support group section. Here's the address: > > http://www.spotlighthealth.com/morbid_obesity/anns_story/anns _story.ht > ml > > I have been a fan of Ann's since the beginning of time, and am so > glad she is out there promoting the band (actually both " bands " as > Heart just came off a new tour!!) > > Jennie > pre-opt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Hi Barb, thanks for the support. I think what I am doing is a service to myself and everyone on the board!!! We want to find out what works and so far only one person has been completely healed by the program and I'm just wanting to keep track, wanting the protocol to work for myself and would love it if someone else would get totally well so we can all have more hope. That is the bottom line. > From: " bevbarb1234 <bevbarb@...> " <bevbarb@...> > Reply-candidiasis > Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:54:49 -0000 > candidiasis > Subject: Ann > > Ann, > Thanks for responding to my post and putting me on your list as > someone who is starting the Russ Protocol. I really appreciate what > you are doing- trying to keep track of who is improving and who is > not! > I used to be a shy person. But now in my 50s, I have changed and find > myself in leadership rolls- new for me. I would like to encourage you > and what you are doing. What you are doing isn't necessarily being a > leader, but you may have some of the same difficulities. Even if you > are honestly trying to help people, some will question you. The best > way to survive that is to be yourself. There is so much conflicting > information and so little time to research out there, that people are > forced to make judgements on inadequate information. > One of my biggest problems with candida is that it is so time > consuming! Researching possibilities and spending so much time > cooking and eating, trying to not loose any more weight on such a > restrictive diet. Most people can afford to loose weight, but I've > been on diets for so long that I've lost too much. I'm going to have > to go back to work soon too. What you are doing (simply keeping a > tally of how people are doing on Russ' protocol) will give people > valuabe information and save them time. I really appreciate it!! > Bev > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2003 Report Share Posted July 1, 2003 Jan, It is funny you say you are from NZ. My husband of now is a Canadian and not a day goes by that he does not yell about our legal system. I have had a lawyer for the whole thing but my bill has reached over $25,000. So he did not want to come to this hearing because he was in a bigger trial. Here in the states the police can not do anything about my exhusbands contempt of the court order. Only the judge can and it takes a long time to get in front of him. Tomorrow he will only hear about the vacation request the rest will have to be dealt with at a later time. So until than my ex will be allowed to break the order for “fear” of the children. He knows how to work the system. It is the kids who pay the price like my 4 year old daughter who cries on the phone when we talk because she misses me so much. It is just exhausting but thanks for the advice. I plan on rereading before court tomorrow. Ann -----Original Message----- From: Ian & Janet [mailto:ianjanaust@...] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 6:35 PM Subject: [ ] Ann Hello Ann......Im so very sorry to hear of your problems and my heart goes out to you. Im not american and our NZ culture & laws are somewhat different from yours. there's nothing more negative to the people at a custody hearing than that of one of the parents appearing to be a victim and is emotionally wrung out, especially when its the mother. People begin to question whether a person is capable of having custody rights, unfair I know but true. You're in some muddy water but it will clear. You must appear calm, strong, well groomed, articulate, keep your voice lowered but non-wavering. If you are told to speak up which frequently happens, do not raise your voice...keep to a slightly stronger but still a lowish confident voice. Eventually, everyone will have to listen very intently to hear you and as such will hear every word you say. Perhaps you need an court advocate, they are free of charge here, & the law provides for this to uphold everyones rights. Your mother sounds if she is throwing a major tantrum with devastating results. You may consider reciprocating the harrassment order & file for damages. If you can prove shes turning the children & ex against you, consider getting the court to order a trespass notice against her so that she is forbidden to see the children unsupervised. This is absolutely drastic but if you feel your children are in danger, mentally or physically, it warrants thinking about. The children are very young & need to be kept out of the verbal loop as far as possible. Their interests are paramount regardless of who is slanging off. Youve written a very good post and I suggest you write down events. Dont drag irrelevant emotional mud into it. Keep literally to the facts. Under each item, clearly refute each allegation. You know the old saying ....where theres smoke theres fire....personally I feel that theres few other more spiteful & damaging sayings around as while it may be true with a few people but for a lot of people theres no truth whatsoever and its usually started by a falling out with a friend or whatever. But its difficult to prove otherwise. Your mother has caused the smoke which will affect you & your children, so kiddo dont give up, but what you need to do is take yourself to task about keeping a cool head and go determinedly to disprove everything thats being thrown at you with the officials. Turn the tables on your mother and demand officially that she provides proof of her allegations otherwise it all become just baseless maliciousness & the court will see that for what it is. BTW its up to the family court (or whatever its called in the States) to decide over visitation rights. Your husband has no right to stop the children visiting you when its approved by a Court Order. I guess this is why you have a hearing tomorrow as he wants the Order changed, so you need to keep your head up and clearly explain why your mother is telling untruths. I will pray for you. This is only my opinion from the few lines youve written & it may be way off beam...but my heart goes out to you. Love Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2003 Report Share Posted July 2, 2003 ann. i dont know what your situation is, but from what you have said, does this mean your husband has your daughter. i am in exactly the same position and its making me ill. i miss her so much. if you want to chat my email is rainbow3591@... love and hugs anita (england) > > From: " Ann and Wieler " <wieler@...> > Date: Wed 02/Jul/2003 00:59 GMT > < > > Subject: RE: [ ] Ann > > Jan, > It is funny you say you are from NZ. My husband of now is a Canadian and > not a day goes by that he does not yell about our legal system. I have had > a lawyer for the whole thing but my bill has reached over $25,000. So he > did not want to come to this hearing because he was in a bigger trial. Here > in the states the police can not do anything about my exhusbands contempt of > the court order. Only the judge can and it takes a long time to get in > front of him. Tomorrow he will only hear about the vacation request the > rest will have to be dealt with at a later time. So until than my ex will > be allowed to break the order for “fear” of the children. He knows how to > work the system. It is the kids who pay the price like my 4 year old > daughter who cries on the phone when we talk because she misses me so much. > It is just exhausting but thanks for the advice. I plan on rereading before > court tomorrow. > Ann > > [ ] Ann > > Hello Ann......Im so very sorry to hear of your problems and my heart goes > out to you. Im not american and our NZ culture & laws are somewhat different > from yours. there's nothing more negative to the people at a custody > hearing than that of one of the parents appearing to be a victim and is > emotionally wrung out, especially when its the mother. People begin to > question whether a person is capable of having custody rights, unfair I know > but true. You're in some muddy water but it will clear. You must appear > calm, strong, well groomed, articulate, keep your voice lowered but > non-wavering. If you are told to speak up which frequently happens, do not > raise your voice...keep to a slightly stronger but still a lowish confident > voice. Eventually, everyone will have to listen very intently to hear you > and as such will hear every word you say. Perhaps you need an court > advocate, they are free of charge here, & the law provides for this to > uphold everyones rights. Your mother sounds if she is throwing a major > tantrum with devastating results. You may consider reciprocating the > harrassment order & file for damages. If you can prove shes turning the > children & ex against you, consider getting the court to order a trespass > notice against her so that she is forbidden to see the children > unsupervised. This is absolutely drastic but if you feel your children are > in danger, mentally or physically, it warrants thinking about. The children > are very young & need to be kept out of the verbal loop as far as possible. > Their interests are paramount regardless of who is slanging off. Youve > written a very good post and I suggest you write down events. Dont drag > irrelevant emotional mud into it. Keep literally to the facts. Under each > item, clearly refute each allegation. You know the old saying ...where > theres smoke theres fire....personally I feel that theres few other more > spiteful & damaging sayings around as while it may be true with a few people > but for a lot of people theres no truth whatsoever and its usually started > by a falling out with a friend or whatever. But its difficult to prove > otherwise. Your mother has caused the smoke which will affect you & your > children, so kiddo dont give up, but what you need to do is take yourself to > task about keeping a cool head and go determinedly to disprove everything > thats being thrown at you with the officials. Turn the tables on your mother > and demand officially that she provides proof of her allegations otherwise > it all become just baseless maliciousness & the court will see that for what > it is. BTW its up to the family court (or whatever its called in the > States) to decide over visitation rights. Your husband has no right to stop > the children visiting you when its approved by a Court Order. I guess this > is why you have a hearing tomorrow as he wants the Order changed, so you > need to keep your head up and clearly explain why your mother is telling > untruths. I will pray for you. This is only my opinion from the few lines > youve written & it may be way off beam...but my heart goes out to you. > Love Jan > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2003 Report Share Posted July 3, 2003 Ann I am glad the Judge saw through his antics. I think it is awful of him to use the children in this way but it goes along way in showing the court how little regard he really has for their welfare. Keep believing in your love for the children and keep faith in the system. As a wise person on here used to quote "perseverance got the snail to the Ark." the WV hillbilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Hi Ann Sorry to hear about your gallstones. I am sure you will have lots of correspondence on this topic as it is fairly common I think. Had my problems pre- op and my Gallbladder was removed in 1980. I had to have it open and did well. God Bless and kee[ us posted on your progress. Phyllis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2004 Report Share Posted August 16, 2004 Hi Cindi, I live in Texas and have had my surgeries and dilitations at Baylor University Medcial Center in Dallas. I just am not sure which direction I am going to go. I really appreciate any and all feedback. I really really want to know more about what kind of recovery I would be facing if I have the surgery where they cut out part of my esophagus and attach it to my stomach, and open my chestwall, etc. I also wondered how long the surgery way. I know I would be asleep but wondered anyways. Thanks, AnnCindi Wilmot <cindiscandles@...> wrote: Oh, Ann, what a bummer. First of all, where do you live (you have probably said this & I'm so sorry, I can't even keep track of my kids at this point in the summer! hahahha!)? How experienced is the surgeon in dealing with A? How many myotomies has he done?? Absolutely talk to him face to face, but also find 1-2 others to talk with as well. If we know the city you are in, maybe someone can give you a good referral. As for your ER visit/spasms.....also a bummer. Yes, many docs are very undereducated in this disease, even GI docs. It is because it is so rare. Personally, I take Paxil & it is really, really helping with the spasms. I actually take 12.5 mg. every other day now. I haven't had a spasm in weeks. Also, many here take Procardia when they are having the spasms only. That would be great for me, but my life is very, very stressful right now, so the regular meds are the best option for me. Also, stress tends to aggravate the spasms for many people, myself very much included. Please keep us posted! Cindi in PA ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 molly, Larry here i just wanted to send a note to say, we all appreciate the that you opened your heart and mind, and companionship to her sometimes its just what the dr ordered!!. i myself know it would be soooo wonderful to have someone at finger tip edge to talk with so i know she will be soooo greatful!. and i don't mean to put words in her mouth so please don't take it that way i know how i would feel , considering there isn't a whole lot of people that believe when you tell them what kind of miserable pain one is in. so anyway personally i thank you for being there for her....Larry. On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 09:52:04 -0500 " molly riley " <mollio@...> writes: > I am so sorry you are feeling so badly. Do you get support from your > family? > It makes me so sad to realize the pain you and others are in. It is > overwhelming. > > If you ever want to chat, I'm molliof on AOL and and windows > messenger. > > Sometimes surgery is a good thing. My younger sister was in horrible > pain > and had a L5 fusion years ago. She has been pain free since then and > can do > all the activities she wasn't able to do before. Of course, the > surgery then > was awful with the incision from her neck all the way down. > > My friend has a disk removed from the lumbar region in CA and was > out the > next day walking without pain. For 6 weeks, he layed on the floor > because > that was the only way he would get relief from the pain and > sciatica. > > I'm here if you need anything, > Molly > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 In a message dated 9/17/2004 8:08:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cindiscandles@... writes: Ann - I'm so sorry to hear your news. I am wondering how others have fared long-term with replacement of the lower E. I know the initial recovery is long, but wonder if it solves anything? Also, I got the impression from my surgeon this week that replacing that lower E is actually easier for them and less risky for you (though longer recovery) than re-doing a myotomy. Kind of like just putting in a new transmission vs. rebuilding it....rebuilding is cheaper, but harder....just putting in a new one costs more, but might last longer (OK - not a perfect analogy! lol!!!). Cindi- I love your posts the last couple of days, you are such a up, positive person. I lost the lower part of my E in my quest to have my botched fundoplications fixed. It is a long recovery, very long. I am supposed to go back up to Cleveland sept. 27 to have my J tube removed. I am swallowing with anxiety, I guess is the best way to put it! It seems a little harder to swallow chunky foods, and I get this sensation of food at the bottom of my throat, but was thinking that this might just be where my stomach is now located, and now, I have to get used to the fact that my stomach is sitting way up higher than it used to be. Does that make any sense or am I just rambling? I am enjoying eating my ice cream at night, and my feeding tube pump gets knocked down another level to 50 tomorrow! By the 22nd, I think I will be able to turn the pump off. YEA! Jan from NKY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 In a message dated 4/24/05 7:53:38 AM Mountain Daylight Time, SSRI medications writes: > You seem surprised that Ann would say that all > mental illness is related to nutrition. She is a > nutrionist. She has always said it was nutrional which > cause low blood sugar problems No, I'm not surprised at all. I've always known this. My comment was directed at Charlie I believe who said that depression was a disease. My reply was that not only do I think labels of mental illness are bogus, but even Dr. believes that and has the credentials to prove it. If you read the Fifth Column article I posted, it clearly talks about how " mental illnesses " were manufactured for the purpose of selling drugs. " Blind Reason " a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's Unsafe At Any Dose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 I am happy for you Sherri, and home on Mother's Day too. F Ann > I'm 12 days postop esophagectomy. I'm still in hosp.Get in touch > anytime will tell anything I can. > Sherry from Ohio > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 In a message dated 5/7/2005 1:15:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sld102@... writes: I'm 12 days postop esophagectomy. I'm still in hosp.Get in touch anytime will tell anything I can. Sherry from Ohio How are you doing, Sherry? When will you be home? How long will you be on a feeding tube, do you know? Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 -Hi Ann, Tamara is doing really well. Her incision is really tidy and will be really hard to see. This is an issue for teenagers. It is well below her bikini line. She had a blood test come back a little elevated with kidney function and will be retested near end of month to see if it has settled. She went back to school this week. Each day she is coping better. Tiredness and stress is her biggest problem now. It is close to exam time and having all her assignments caught up for end of year. Thanks for your concern, we are doing well. My youngest daughter started track racing (cycling on a velodrome) last night ( she has been waiting patiently for my recovery so she can start). She is only 8 and had to race with woman. I was impressed she managed to hold her own and not get dropped to far to my surprise. she also got 2 3rd places in handicaps. What a legend. I told her to just go out and enjoy it she didn't have to race, but she did really well. She has been waiting so long to do this. Regards -- In achalasia , " lilac_blossom_lady " <lilac_blossom_lady@y...> wrote: > > > Hi , > > You sound to be doing really well. I am so pleased for you. How is your daughter? > > Love and Best Wishes from Ann xxx > > > > > > > > > Chest pains, heartburn, acid reflux, spasm pains, NCCPs.... what > > > the heck is all of this stuff anyway???? > > > > (aka: Debbi's Dissertation on Dysfunctional Dysphagia Diagnoses) > > > > > > > > Here's some info I've put together on differences > > > between " heartburn " and the " chest pains/spasm pains " that are > > > related to achalasia. The official medical term that I've found > > for > > > the " spasm pain " is " NCCP " or Non Cardiac Chest Pain. There are > > > multiple terms used for " heartburn " including: acid indigestion, > > > > acid reflux, GERD/GORD, etc. > > > > > > > > In my pre-achalasia days, I would have " indigestion/heartburn " > > once > > > in a while (after a particularly large, fatty, acidic meal, etc.), > > > maybe once or twice a year. I would have that nasty acid taste in > > my > > > mouth when I burped, and a hot/burning sensation in the area of my > > > breastbone. While not particularly comfortable, it wasn't an > > > excruciating, debilitating pain, and taking some Tums or other > > > antacid would neutralize it and both the taste and the discomfort > > > would go away. > > > > > > > > When I had my first NCCP, I had been having problems swallowing > > for > > > a few years but hadn't yet been diagnosed with anything, and I had > > no > > > clue that the pain was related to my swallowing problems. I > > thought > > > the pain was some gawd-awful gas pains -- felt like something was > > > stabbing me from the inside out! The pain seemed to start in the > > > ribs and almost squeeze my chest with searing pain that seemed to > > > > shoot up into my neck, too. (note: everyone can experience NCCPs > > in > > > varying degrees and in various parts of the body, including > > stomach, > > > chest, shoulders, neck, back, jaw, tongue, teeth, and roof of the > > > > mouth.) I lived alone at the time, and I drove to a convenience > > > store and bought three rolls of Rolaids and ate two whole rolls. > > > That didn't have any effect at all, and it took a couple hours for > > > the pain to go away. > > > > > > > > Another time, I have a distinct memory of standing in the kitchen > > > holding onto the countertop and just WAILING at the top of my lungs > > > because it hurt so bad, and my knees buckling from the pain. My > > > wailing turned into one big repetitious prayer: " Please, Lord, > > > Please, Lord, Make It Stop, Lord, I Can't Take It Anymore, Lord, > > > Please, Lord, I Need You To Please Help Me! " over and over and over > > > again while sobbing. This was almost a decade ago and I don't know > > > how long it went on, but I'm thinking that it was well over an hour > > > of that constant wailing. Boy, those were the days, huh? ;o) > > > > > > > > For people whose doctors believe that NCCPs are an " atypical " > > (not > > > normal) symptom for achalasia patients, point them in the direction > > > of this informal poll here on our group: > > > > achalasia/surveys? > > > id=1037310 . The poll is now closed, so who knows how many more > > > would be added to it if it were still accepting votes. If you > > scroll > > > down to the end, 38 people reported that they have these " spasms " , > > > and 5 people reported that they don't have spasms. So out of 43 > > > people who answered the poll, 88% have spasms and 12% don't have > > > spasms. Doesn't sound like a " rare " or " atypical " symptom, does > > it? > > > > > > > > In another poll ( > > > achalasia/surveys? > > id=1011383 ), > > > out of the people who went to the Emergency Room due to extreme > > chest > > > pains, 2 were given intravenous Valium, 3 were given Demerol or > > other > > > narcotic injection, and 7 were given no treatment whatsoever.... > > > isn't that sad? 58% of the people who were in such severe pain > > that > > > they went to the E.R. for relief were given NO TREATMENT at all!!! > > > That is SO unnecessary!!!! > > > > > > > > Here's some info that I copied from an old post of mine -- if > > your > > > doctor will bother to do some simple web searches, he'll see that > > > calcium channel blockers, nitroglycerine, and anti-depressants are > > > all documented ways to treat NCCP in people with esophageal > > > disorders! Maybe if you print it out and show it to him, he'll be > > > willing to offer you some help in dealing with this. > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > > > Here's some basic info that I've posted in the past -- different > > > things work for different people, so it's basically just an > > > experiment to find what works for your own particular situation. > > > > > > > > Here are some different coping methods to try: > > > > > > > > -- Swallowing something warm or something cold (in my case, I > > chug > > > warm --not hot-- water as fast as I can). > > > > > > > > -- CCB medication (calcium channel blockers) -- when I'm having > > > NCCPs, I prick the shell of a nifedipine capsule and squirt it > > under > > > my tongue. It absorbs into the bloodstream under the tongue (this > > is > > > called a " sub-lingual " medication, meaning under-tongue) and > > relaxes > > > smooth muscle tissue (which is what the esophagus is made up of). > > > You can also just swallow the capsule, but since we have trouble > > > swallowing in the first place, I've found the under-the-tongue > > method > > > works best (then you just swallow when you've held it there as long > > > as you can and your saliva requires a swallow). Unfortunately, it > > > can also lower your blood pressure (usually only a problem if you > > > already have low BP to begin with) and cause a headache afterwards - > > - > > > some people experience this, some don't. CCB's can also be tried > > in > > > the " slow release " formula as a preventative to having NCCPs start > > in > > > the first place. > > > > > > > > -- Nitroglycerin medication -- works in much the same way as the > > > CCB mentioned above, and can also be taken sublingually for fast > > > relief. > > > > > > > > -- Certain anti-depressant and anti-convulsant medications -- > > some > > > people don't have NCCPs when on these types of medications, > > believed > > > to be a function of the medicine's effect on serotonin in the brain > > > > (antidepressants such as Nortryptaline, Amitryptaline, Imipramine > > > and Trazodone have been studied; Neurontin is being studied in a > > > similar way for " phantom limb pain " in amputees, etc.) People in > > the > > > group have had luck with Paxil, Ativan, Nortryptaline, etc. The > > > dosage needed in this case is generally lower than the dosage that > > is > > > normally used to treat depression. > > > > > > > > -- L'Argnine supplements -- some people have found these relieve > > > NCCP symptoms. > > > > > > > > -- If symptoms are debilitating and none of the methods above > > help, > > > you may need a narcotic pain reliever, but definitely try all the > > > options above first, b/c if you're on narcotics you can't drive, > > > work, etc., and the vast majority of people can find relief in a > > way > > > that doesn't involve narcotics. > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > > > In the last few years I've taken three different drugs that > > affect > > > serotonin (two were antidepressants, and one isn't considered to be > > > an anti-depressant medication but does have an effect on > > serotonin); > > > any time I was on one of those drugs, my NCCPs have either > > > disappeared entirely, or been nearly eliminated and greatly reduced > > > in severity. And each time I discontinued a serotonin-effect drug, > > > the NCCPs started up again within a month's time. One member here > > > who was in the E.R. repeatedly for debilitating NCCPs finally had a > > > doctor prescribe a low-dose daily antidepressant; her NCCPs have > > been > > > eliminated.... no more pain, no more narcotics, no more trips to > > the > > > hospital. > > > > > > > > There are soooooooooooo many things that can be done to reduce > > > NCCPs, but doctors don't even bother to TRY to find a solution for > > > us. I say let THEM curl up in a fetal position making plea- bargain > > > deals with their Maker at 3:00 in the morning just ONCE, and you > > can > > > bet your booty that they'll find a solution REAL fast!!! > > > > > > > > Debbi in Michigan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Dear , I am not at all surprised that your younger daughter did so well. Look at the role models of womanhood she has had recently. She has watched you go through this op in a positive manner and ready to support others at the same time. And she has watched her older sister have to cope with her medical problem AND think about school exams coming up and the pressure that that alone causes.It has all probably made her determined to have a good time and try her best. Good for you all.Sending love from Ann in England (far in distance and close in thoughts) xxx> > > > >> > > > > Chest pains, heartburn, acid reflux, spasm pains, NCCPs.... > what > > > > the heck is all of this stuff anyway????> > > > > (aka: Debbi's Dissertation on Dysfunctional Dysphagia > Diagnoses)> > > > > > > > > > Here's some info I've put together on differences > > > > between "heartburn" and the "chest pains/spasm pains" that are > > > > related to achalasia. The official medical term that I've found > > > for > > > > the "spasm pain" is "NCCP" or Non Cardiac Chest Pain. There are > > > > multiple terms used for "heartburn" including: acid > indigestion, > > > > > acid reflux, GERD/GORD, etc.> > > > > > > > > > In my pre-achalasia days, I would > have "indigestion/heartburn" > > > once > > > > in a while (after a particularly large, fatty, acidic meal, > etc.), > > > > maybe once or twice a year. I would have that nasty acid taste > in > > > my > > > > mouth when I burped, and a hot/burning sensation in the area of > my > > > > breastbone. While not particularly comfortable, it wasn't an > > > > excruciating, debilitating pain, and taking some Tums or other > > > > antacid would neutralize it and both the taste and the > discomfort > > > > would go away.> > > > > > > > > > When I had my first NCCP, I had been having problems > swallowing > > > for > > > > a few years but hadn't yet been diagnosed with anything, and I > had > > > no > > > > clue that the pain was related to my swallowing problems. I > > > thought > > > > the pain was some gawd-awful gas pains -- felt like something > was > > > > stabbing me from the inside out! The pain seemed to start in > the > > > > ribs and almost squeeze my chest with searing pain that seemed > to > > > > > shoot up into my neck, too. (note: everyone can experience > NCCPs > > > in > > > > varying degrees and in various parts of the body, including > > > stomach, > > > > chest, shoulders, neck, back, jaw, tongue, teeth, and roof of > the > > > > > mouth.) I lived alone at the time, and I drove to a > convenience > > > > store and bought three rolls of Rolaids and ate two whole > rolls. > > > > That didn't have any effect at all, and it took a couple hours > for > > > > the pain to go away. > > > > > > > > > > Another time, I have a distinct memory of standing in the > kitchen > > > > holding onto the countertop and just WAILING at the top of my > lungs > > > > because it hurt so bad, and my knees buckling from the pain. My > > > > wailing turned into one big repetitious prayer: "Please, Lord, > > > > Please, Lord, Make It Stop, Lord, I Can't Take It Anymore, > Lord, > > > > Please, Lord, I Need You To Please Help Me!" over and over and > over > > > > again while sobbing. This was almost a decade ago and I don't > know > > > > how long it went on, but I'm thinking that it was well over an > hour > > > > of that constant wailing. Boy, those were the days, huh? ;o)> > > > > > > > > > For people whose doctors believe that NCCPs are an "atypical" > > > (not > > > > normal) symptom for achalasia patients, point them in the > direction > > > > of this informal poll here on our group: > > > > > achalasia/surveys?> > > > id=1037310 . The poll is now closed, so who knows how many more > > > > would be added to it if it were still accepting votes. If you > > > scroll > > > > down to the end, 38 people reported that they have > these "spasms", > > > > and 5 people reported that they don't have spasms. So out of 43 > > > > people who answered the poll, 88% have spasms and 12% don't > have > > > > spasms. Doesn't sound like a "rare" or "atypical" symptom, does > > > it? > > > > > > > > > > In another poll ( > > > > achalasia/surveys?> > > id=1011383 ), > > > > out of the people who went to the Emergency Room due to extreme > > > chest > > > > pains, 2 were given intravenous Valium, 3 were given Demerol or > > > other > > > > narcotic injection, and 7 were given no treatment > whatsoever.... > > > > isn't that sad? 58% of the people who were in such severe pain > > > that > > > > they went to the E.R. for relief were given NO TREATMENT at > all!!! > > > > That is SO unnecessary!!!!> > > > > > > > > > Here's some info that I copied from an old post of mine -- if > > > your > > > > doctor will bother to do some simple web searches, he'll see > that > > > > calcium channel blockers, nitroglycerine, and anti-depressants > are > > > > all documented ways to treat NCCP in people with esophageal > > > > disorders! Maybe if you print it out and show it to him, he'll > be > > > > willing to offer you some help in dealing with this. > > > > > > > > > > =============================================> > > > > > > > > > Here's some basic info that I've posted in the past -- > different > > > > things work for different people, so it's basically just an > > > > experiment to find what works for your own particular situation.> > > > > > > > > > Here are some different coping methods to try: > > > > > > > > > > -- Swallowing something warm or something cold (in my case, I > > > chug > > > > warm --not hot-- water as fast as I can).> > > > > > > > > > -- CCB medication (calcium channel blockers) -- when I'm > having > > > > NCCPs, I prick the shell of a nifedipine capsule and squirt it > > > under > > > > my tongue. It absorbs into the bloodstream under the tongue > (this > > > is > > > > called a "sub-lingual" medication, meaning under-tongue) and > > > relaxes > > > > smooth muscle tissue (which is what the esophagus is made up > of). > > > > You can also just swallow the capsule, but since we have > trouble > > > > swallowing in the first place, I've found the under-the-tongue > > > method > > > > works best (then you just swallow when you've held it there as > long > > > > as you can and your saliva requires a swallow). Unfortunately, > it > > > > can also lower your blood pressure (usually only a problem if > you > > > > already have low BP to begin with) and cause a headache > afterwards -> > > - > > > > some people experience this, some don't. CCB's can also be > tried > > > in > > > > the "slow release" formula as a preventative to having NCCPs > start > > > in > > > > the first place.> > > > > > > > > > -- Nitroglycerin medication -- works in much the same way as > the > > > > CCB mentioned above, and can also be taken sublingually for > fast > > > > relief.> > > > > > > > > > -- Certain anti-depressant and anti-convulsant medications -- > > > some > > > > people don't have NCCPs when on these types of medications, > > > believed > > > > to be a function of the medicine's effect on serotonin in the > brain > > > > > (antidepressants such as Nortryptaline, Amitryptaline, > Imipramine > > > > and Trazodone have been studied; Neurontin is being studied in > a > > > > similar way for "phantom limb pain" in amputees, etc.) People > in > > > the > > > > group have had luck with Paxil, Ativan, Nortryptaline, etc. The > > > > dosage needed in this case is generally lower than the dosage > that > > > is > > > > normally used to treat depression.> > > > > > > > > > -- L'Argnine supplements -- some people have found these > relieve > > > > NCCP symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > -- If symptoms are debilitating and none of the methods above > > > help, > > > > you may need a narcotic pain reliever, but definitely try all > the > > > > options above first, b/c if you're on narcotics you can't > drive, > > > > work, etc., and the vast majority of people can find relief in > a > > > way > > > > that doesn't involve narcotics.> > > > > > > > > > =============================================> > > > > > > > > > In the last few years I've taken three different drugs that > > > affect > > > > serotonin (two were antidepressants, and one isn't considered > to be > > > > an anti-depressant medication but does have an effect on > > > serotonin); > > > > any time I was on one of those drugs, my NCCPs have either > > > > disappeared entirely, or been nearly eliminated and greatly > reduced > > > > in severity. And each time I discontinued a serotonin-effect > drug, > > > > the NCCPs started up again within a month's time. One member > here > > > > who was in the E.R. repeatedly for debilitating NCCPs finally > had a > > > > doctor prescribe a low-dose daily antidepressant; her NCCPs > have > > > been > > > > eliminated.... no more pain, no more narcotics, no more trips > to > > > the > > > > hospital. > > > > > > > > > > There are soooooooooooo many things that can be done to > reduce > > > > NCCPs, but doctors don't even bother to TRY to find a solution > for > > > > us. I say let THEM curl up in a fetal position making plea-> bargain > > > > deals with their Maker at 3:00 in the morning just ONCE, and > you > > > can > > > > bet your booty that they'll find a solution REAL fast!!! > > > > > > > > > > Debbi in Michigan> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Thanks Ann, I am proud of my girls. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chest pains, heartburn, acid reflux, spasm pains, NCCPs.... > > what > > > > > the heck is all of this stuff anyway???? > > > > > > (aka: Debbi's Dissertation on Dysfunctional Dysphagia > > Diagnoses) > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's some info I've put together on differences > > > > > between " heartburn " and the " chest pains/spasm pains " that are > > > > > related to achalasia. The official medical term that I've found > > > > for > > > > > the " spasm pain " is " NCCP " or Non Cardiac Chest Pain. There are > > > > > multiple terms used for " heartburn " including: acid > > indigestion, > > > > > > acid reflux, GERD/GORD, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my pre-achalasia days, I would > > have " indigestion/heartburn " > > > > once > > > > > in a while (after a particularly large, fatty, acidic meal, > > etc.), > > > > > maybe once or twice a year. I would have that nasty acid taste > > in > > > > my > > > > > mouth when I burped, and a hot/burning sensation in the area of > > my > > > > > breastbone. While not particularly comfortable, it wasn't an > > > > > excruciating, debilitating pain, and taking some Tums or other > > > > > antacid would neutralize it and both the taste and the > > discomfort > > > > > would go away. > > > > > > > > > > > > When I had my first NCCP, I had been having problems > > swallowing > > > > for > > > > > a few years but hadn't yet been diagnosed with anything, and I > > had > > > > no > > > > > clue that the pain was related to my swallowing problems. I > > > > thought > > > > > the pain was some gawd-awful gas pains -- felt like something > > was > > > > > stabbing me from the inside out! The pain seemed to start in > > the > > > > > ribs and almost squeeze my chest with searing pain that seemed > > to > > > > > > shoot up into my neck, too. (note: everyone can experience > > NCCPs > > > > in > > > > > varying degrees and in various parts of the body, including > > > > stomach, > > > > > chest, shoulders, neck, back, jaw, tongue, teeth, and roof of > > the > > > > > > mouth.) I lived alone at the time, and I drove to a > > convenience > > > > > store and bought three rolls of Rolaids and ate two whole > > rolls. > > > > > That didn't have any effect at all, and it took a couple hours > > for > > > > > the pain to go away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Another time, I have a distinct memory of standing in the > > kitchen > > > > > holding onto the countertop and just WAILING at the top of my > > lungs > > > > > because it hurt so bad, and my knees buckling from the pain. My > > > > > wailing turned into one big repetitious prayer: " Please, Lord, > > > > > Please, Lord, Make It Stop, Lord, I Can't Take It Anymore, > > Lord, > > > > > Please, Lord, I Need You To Please Help Me! " over and over and > > over > > > > > again while sobbing. This was almost a decade ago and I don't > > know > > > > > how long it went on, but I'm thinking that it was well over an > > hour > > > > > of that constant wailing. Boy, those were the days, huh? ;o) > > > > > > > > > > > > For people whose doctors believe that NCCPs are an " atypical " > > > > (not > > > > > normal) symptom for achalasia patients, point them in the > > direction > > > > > of this informal poll here on our group: > > > > > > achalasia/surveys? > > > > > id=1037310 . The poll is now closed, so who knows how many more > > > > > would be added to it if it were still accepting votes. If you > > > > scroll > > > > > down to the end, 38 people reported that they have > > these " spasms " , > > > > > and 5 people reported that they don't have spasms. So out of 43 > > > > > people who answered the poll, 88% have spasms and 12% don't > > have > > > > > spasms. Doesn't sound like a " rare " or " atypical " symptom, does > > > > it? > > > > > > > > > > > > In another poll ( > > > > > achalasia/surveys? > > > > id=1011383 ), > > > > > out of the people who went to the Emergency Room due to extreme > > > > chest > > > > > pains, 2 were given intravenous Valium, 3 were given Demerol or > > > > other > > > > > narcotic injection, and 7 were given no treatment > > whatsoever.... > > > > > isn't that sad? 58% of the people who were in such severe pain > > > > that > > > > > they went to the E.R. for relief were given NO TREATMENT at > > all!!! > > > > > That is SO unnecessary!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's some info that I copied from an old post of mine -- if > > > > your > > > > > doctor will bother to do some simple web searches, he'll see > > that > > > > > calcium channel blockers, nitroglycerine, and anti- depressants > > are > > > > > all documented ways to treat NCCP in people with esophageal > > > > > disorders! Maybe if you print it out and show it to him, he'll > > be > > > > > willing to offer you some help in dealing with this. > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's some basic info that I've posted in the past -- > > different > > > > > things work for different people, so it's basically just an > > > > > experiment to find what works for your own particular situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are some different coping methods to try: > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Swallowing something warm or something cold (in my case, I > > > > chug > > > > > warm --not hot-- water as fast as I can). > > > > > > > > > > > > -- CCB medication (calcium channel blockers) -- when I'm > > having > > > > > NCCPs, I prick the shell of a nifedipine capsule and squirt it > > > > under > > > > > my tongue. It absorbs into the bloodstream under the tongue > > (this > > > > is > > > > > called a " sub-lingual " medication, meaning under-tongue) and > > > > relaxes > > > > > smooth muscle tissue (which is what the esophagus is made up > > of). > > > > > You can also just swallow the capsule, but since we have > > trouble > > > > > swallowing in the first place, I've found the under-the- tongue > > > > method > > > > > works best (then you just swallow when you've held it there as > > long > > > > > as you can and your saliva requires a swallow). Unfortunately, > > it > > > > > can also lower your blood pressure (usually only a problem if > > you > > > > > already have low BP to begin with) and cause a headache > > afterwards - > > > > - > > > > > some people experience this, some don't. CCB's can also be > > tried > > > > in > > > > > the " slow release " formula as a preventative to having NCCPs > > start > > > > in > > > > > the first place. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Nitroglycerin medication -- works in much the same way as > > the > > > > > CCB mentioned above, and can also be taken sublingually for > > fast > > > > > relief. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Certain anti-depressant and anti-convulsant medications -- > > > > some > > > > > people don't have NCCPs when on these types of medications, > > > > believed > > > > > to be a function of the medicine's effect on serotonin in the > > brain > > > > > > (antidepressants such as Nortryptaline, Amitryptaline, > > Imipramine > > > > > and Trazodone have been studied; Neurontin is being studied in > > a > > > > > similar way for " phantom limb pain " in amputees, etc.) People > > in > > > > the > > > > > group have had luck with Paxil, Ativan, Nortryptaline, etc. The > > > > > dosage needed in this case is generally lower than the dosage > > that > > > > is > > > > > normally used to treat depression. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- L'Argnine supplements -- some people have found these > > relieve > > > > > NCCP symptoms. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- If symptoms are debilitating and none of the methods above > > > > help, > > > > > you may need a narcotic pain reliever, but definitely try all > > the > > > > > options above first, b/c if you're on narcotics you can't > > drive, > > > > > work, etc., and the vast majority of people can find relief in > > a > > > > way > > > > > that doesn't involve narcotics. > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > In the last few years I've taken three different drugs that > > > > affect > > > > > serotonin (two were antidepressants, and one isn't considered > > to be > > > > > an anti-depressant medication but does have an effect on > > > > serotonin); > > > > > any time I was on one of those drugs, my NCCPs have either > > > > > disappeared entirely, or been nearly eliminated and greatly > > reduced > > > > > in severity. And each time I discontinued a serotonin- effect > > drug, > > > > > the NCCPs started up again within a month's time. One member > > here > > > > > who was in the E.R. repeatedly for debilitating NCCPs finally > > had a > > > > > doctor prescribe a low-dose daily antidepressant; her NCCPs > > have > > > > been > > > > > eliminated.... no more pain, no more narcotics, no more trips > > to > > > > the > > > > > hospital. > > > > > > > > > > > > There are soooooooooooo many things that can be done to > > reduce > > > > > NCCPs, but doctors don't even bother to TRY to find a solution > > for > > > > > us. I say let THEM curl up in a fetal position making plea- > > bargain > > > > > deals with their Maker at 3:00 in the morning just ONCE, and > > you > > > > can > > > > > bet your booty that they'll find a solution REAL fast!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Debbi in Michigan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2006 Report Share Posted January 4, 2006 Ann I will check with Pastor and let you know where his home in England was. I sent a copy of one of your emails, and will tell her you said hello. Jolilac_blossom_lady <lilac_blossom_lady@...> wrote: Dear Dawn, I love your phrase "tune up". I will remember that when I have to have "services" in the future. It kind of puts things into an easy perspective. Dear Jo, That was such a sweet message. Thank you for your kind words. Do you know where in England your pastor is from? It's not such a big place really. I may have heard of it. Say hello to your for me Dear Liz, You really have been through a tough time haven't you sweetheart? You must be very grateful to be at this side of it. I sincerely hope that your life will now become better and better. Dear LeeAnn, The only thing that I can give to you is this little piece of advice. From now, until it is over, keep saying to yourself "I can do this, I can do this". The words will keep you strong. You will be ok. Special love to you. Love to all from Ann in England xxxxxxxx Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Pastor and his wife Glenys are currently trying to arrange green cards for the two oldest boys, ages 21 & 19 (I think). The rest of the family is all set, but the church has been praying for & for months. I know they want to stay here together, so this is a difficult time for the family. I have printed your message, and will take it with me when I see him. Your advice for dealing with this disease is right on target. Too bad I didn't see it before this past week, when I let depression creep in and I sabotaged my current employment. I am filling out new applications today. My position has not been terminated yet, but I doubt that I am up to the demands required when business increases. Twelve hour days and six day work weeks are beyond my abilities at this time. lilac_blossom_lady <lilac_blossom_lady@...> wrote: Dear Jo, Both Manchester and Liverpool are close by. Manchester is about 25 miles and Liverpool about 40. My stepson is a graphic artist in Manchester. Liverpool,as you probably know, is famous for the Beatles. It must seem like a very big change for your Pastor and his family. Tell him that I live in Huddersfield, where we are very proud of our football team, who travelled down to London yesterday to take on the Premier side, Chelsea and though beaten 2-1 put on a very good show. I am not a supporter myself but my daughter is "Town Mad". I hope he is very happy in his new life. Best wishes from Ann In England's Green and Pleasant Land. XX>> I spoke with pastor after services this morning. He said he was > born in Manchester, and lived in Liverpool before moving to the > States. He asked what area you are from, and I wasn't able to tell > him. I have been looking through your messages, but haven't found the > answer yet.> > Jo> Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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