Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

[Guest guest]

I got rid of my neuro after his negativity following my CCSVI treatment and I

feel MUCH better for going it alone.

He never did anything for me anyway, apart from tell my how my life was awful

and that of course I would be better if I were on Tysabri.

Religiously I would go and see him twice a year for him to ridicule my self-help

ways and rubbish nutrition, supplements and exercise.

Question yourself - do you really need a neuro?

Janet

To: mscured

From: yourbeamofsunshine@...

Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 01:28:59 -0800

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

I need a new neuro in N. cal from sacramento area and above. Mine is sooo

negative it makes me feel like giving up. Everytime I see him I feel worse

mentally than I did before. He makes me feel depressed like life is going to be

so horrible and he does nothing for the needs I have.

[Guest guest]

Joy,

I don't have any names but I can completely relate to your experience. I feel

depressed for days after every visit to the neuro. Every neuro I have seen

(three in total) have told me MS is progressive and I should just hope for the

best. I was told the same thing by a chriropractor and even two natural healers.

Two other chiropractors told me " well we'll see if we can slow it down. " I think

most of this thinking comes from the MS Societyy's views which trickled down to

the med schools and the doctors. It seems like when it comes to MS, so many

practitioners are " doom and gloom. " Apparently these practitioners are not aware

of all the healing stories or even the stories of those who have remained stable

indefinitely. I have only come across one or two natual practitioners with a

positivve attitude about healing, although I didn't feel they helped me nearly

as much as what I have learned from my fellow peers with MS.

I imagine some neuros out there do have a positive attitude but they are few and

far between. Most of them probably feel useless because they have put their

patients on the Interferons and not advised them to make any lifestyle changes

and planted negative ideas in their heads and thus watched them get worse.

I really dislike and distrust conventional medicine and the FDA endorsements of

anything means ZERO to me. The FDA are the ones afterall who approved aspartame,

vaccines, and amalgams. The government proliferates the environmental toxins and

keeps cigarettes legal while making THC illegal. Hence, many of us probably got

sick because of what the FDA allowed. What a darn shame. But I digress here.

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 4:28:59 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

I need a new neuro in N. cal from sacramento area and above.  Mine is sooo

negative it makes me feel like giving up.  Everytime I see him I feel worse

mentally than I did before.  He makes me feel depressed like life is going to be

so horrible and he does nothing for the needs I have.  

[Guest guest]

In my view there would be only a few circumstances I would see a neuro anymore.

They are the following:

--needed to apply for government Disability

--A very acute attack where someone may wish to consider IV steroids

--If something very unusual occurs and one suspects something more serious such

as a brain tumor.

--To get a doctor's note for work accommodations.

Can't think of anything else offhand.

________________________________

To: MS-Cured <mscured >

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 4:52:21 AM

Subject: RE: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

I got rid of my neuro after his negativity following my CCSVI treatment and I

feel MUCH better for going it alone.

He never did anything for me anyway, apart from tell my how my life was awful

and that of course I would be better if I were on Tysabri.

[Guest guest]

One needs a neuro to stay on disability which I need.  They need a neuro to

order alternative treatments that unfortunately need a perscription like LDN. 

So yes I do need a neuro.

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 9:36:24 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

In my view there would be only a few circumstances I would see a neuro anymore.

They are the following:

--needed to apply for government Disability

--A very acute attack where someone may wish to consider IV steroids

--If something very unusual occurs and one suspects something more serious such

as a brain tumor.

--To get a doctor's note for work accommodations.

Can't think of anything else offhand.

________________________________

To: MS-Cured <mscured >

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 4:52:21 AM

Subject: RE: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

I got rid of my neuro after his negativity following my CCSVI treatment and I

feel MUCH better for going it alone.

He never did anything for me anyway, apart from tell my how my life was awful

and that of course I would be better if I were on Tysabri.

[Guest guest]

Yeah Joy, hadn't thought of that. My internist/GP (general medicine doctor) used

to write my LDN scripts when I took it. Surprisingly he had no problem writing

it, even though he was not familiar with it. He didn't even ask for literature.

Bihari wrote my first script and then my GP wrote it thereafter for the 3 of the

5 years I was on it.

I think you are right that one needs to keep the neuro if on SSDI because every

few years SSDI checks in to make sure the claimant is still eligible, and if

that person has not continued to see a neuro, it could give SSDI more of a

chance to try to cut off the benefit.

Thanks for pointing out these reasons. I do personally see the neuro once every

1-2 years just in case I ever need him for something unexpected, but every visit

is terribly depressing. Even the office is gloomy and the aura in the air of the

office is like a haunted house. 

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 2:17:27 PM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

One needs a neuro to stay on disability which I need.  They need a neuro to

order alternative treatments that unfortunately need a perscription like LDN. 

So yes I do need a neuro.

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 9:36:24 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

In my view there would be only a few circumstances I would see a neuro anymore.

They are the following:

--needed to apply for government Disability

--A very acute attack where someone may wish to consider IV steroids

--If something very unusual occurs and one suspects something more serious such

as a brain tumor.

--To get a doctor's note for work accommodations.

Can't think of anything else offhand.

________________________________

To: MS-Cured <mscured >

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 4:52:21 AM

Subject: RE: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

I got rid of my neuro after his negativity following my CCSVI treatment and I

feel MUCH better for going it alone.

He never did anything for me anyway, apart from tell my how my life was awful

and that of course I would be better if I were on Tysabri.

[Guest guest]

Hi Joy,

This site tells where and how to obtain LDN:

http://tinyurl.com/how-to-obtain-ldn

All the best,

Dudley Delany

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

[Guest guest]

In reference to your statement:

I really dislike and distrust conventional medicine and the FDA endorsements

of

Anything means ZERO to me. The FDA are the ones afterall who approved

aspartame,

Vaccines, and amalgams. The government proliferates the environmental toxins

and

Keeps cigarettes legal while making THC illegal. Hence, many of us probably

got

Sick because of what the FDA allowed. What a darn shame. But I digress here.

I say a Big AMEN !! Your exactly right or should I say, " I totally agree

with you ? " Especially the part about keeping cigarettes legal while making

THC illegal.

You couldn't of said it any better!!

* clapping hands*

Anita

-- Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

I need a new neuro in N. cal from sacramento area and above. Mine is sooo

negative it makes me feel like giving up. Everytime I see him I feel worse

mentally than I did before. He makes me feel depressed like life is going

to be

so horrible and he does nothing for the needs I have.

[Guest guest]

I already take it. 

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 1:41:56 PM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

Hi Joy,

This site tells where and how to obtain LDN:

http://tinyurl.com/how-to-obtain-ldn

All the best,

Dudley Delany

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

[Guest guest]

The visit was soooo horrible.  It takes a couple of days to recover mentally

from seeing him.  I am going to try to find another one.  I also am officially

stopping all ms meds and trying to detox them out of my system.  I am going to

do as much raw food as possible.  It helped before maybe it will help again.

Unfortunately I need the ssi checks to survive.  Its scary because what they

give me is only enough to buy groceries.  Its not enough to rent a place and

live. 

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 11:40:02 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

Yeah Joy, hadn't thought of that. My internist/GP (general medicine doctor) used

to write my LDN scripts when I took it. Surprisingly he had no problem writing

it, even though he was not familiar with it. He didn't even ask for literature.

Bihari wrote my first script and then my GP wrote it thereafter for the 3 of the

5 years I was on it.

I think you are right that one needs to keep the neuro if on SSDI because every

few years SSDI checks in to make sure the claimant is still eligible, and if

that person has not continued to see a neuro, it could give SSDI more of a

chance to try to cut off the benefit.

Thanks for pointing out these reasons. I do personally see the neuro once every

1-2 years just in case I ever need him for something unexpected, but every visit

is terribly depressing. Even the office is gloomy and the aura in the air of the

office is like a haunted house. 

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 2:17:27 PM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

One needs a neuro to stay on disability which I need.  They need a neuro to

order alternative treatments that unfortunately need a perscription like LDN. 

So yes I do need a neuro.

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 9:36:24 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

In my view there would be only a few circumstances I would see a neuro anymore.

They are the following:

--needed to apply for government Disability

--A very acute attack where someone may wish to consider IV steroids

--If something very unusual occurs and one suspects something more serious such

as a brain tumor.

--To get a doctor's note for work accommodations.

Can't think of anything else offhand.

________________________________

To: MS-Cured <mscured >

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 4:52:21 AM

Subject: RE: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

I got rid of my neuro after his negativity following my CCSVI treatment and I

feel MUCH better for going it alone.

He never did anything for me anyway, apart from tell my how my life was awful

and that of course I would be better if I were on Tysabri.

[Guest guest]

I feel the same about doctors and the medical system, the fda.  Its a corupt

group.  I studied herbology and learned the history of the medical field. 

It's

all about money, keeping people sick, milking people for everything they have. 

It's very sad.

Now I am cleansing my body of the meds I have been on.  I started decreasing

things a few weeks ago and my mind is clearer.  I feel a bit better everyday.

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 9:33:47 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

Joy,

I don't have any names but I can completely relate to your experience. I feel

depressed for days after every visit to the neuro. Every neuro I have seen

(three in total) have told me MS is progressive and I should just hope for the

best. I was told the same thing by a chriropractor and even two natural healers.

Two other chiropractors told me " well we'll see if we can slow it down. " I

think

most of this thinking comes from the MS Societyy's views which trickled down to

the med schools and the doctors. It seems like when it comes to MS, so many

practitioners are " doom and gloom. " Apparently these practitioners are not aware

of all the healing stories or even the stories of those who have remained stable

indefinitely. I have only come across one or two natual practitioners with a

positivve attitude about healing, although I didn't feel they helped me nearly

as much as what I have learned from my fellow peers with MS.

I imagine some neuros out there do have a positive attitude but they are few and

far between. Most of them probably feel useless because they have put their

patients on the Interferons and not advised them to make any lifestyle changes

and planted negative ideas in their heads and thus watched them get worse.

I really dislike and distrust conventional medicine and the FDA endorsements of

anything means ZERO to me. The FDA are the ones afterall who approved aspartame,

vaccines, and amalgams. The government proliferates the environmental toxins and

keeps cigarettes legal while making THC illegal. Hence, many of us probably got

sick because of what the FDA allowed. What a darn shame. But I digress here.

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 4:28:59 AM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

I need a new neuro in N. cal from sacramento area and above.  Mine is sooo

negative it makes me feel like giving up.  Everytime I see him I feel worse

mentally than I did before.  He makes me feel depressed like life is going to

be

so horrible and he does nothing for the needs I have.  

[Guest guest]

So true. 

________________________________

To: mscured

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 4:14:09 PM

Subject: Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

 

In reference to your statement:

I really dislike and distrust conventional medicine and the FDA endorsements

of

Anything means ZERO to me. The FDA are the ones afterall who approved

aspartame,

Vaccines, and amalgams. The government proliferates the environmental toxins

and

Keeps cigarettes legal while making THC illegal. Hence, many of us probably

got

Sick because of what the FDA allowed. What a darn shame. But I digress here.

I say a Big AMEN !! Your exactly right or should I say, " I totally agree

with you ? " Especially the part about keeping cigarettes legal while making

THC illegal.

You couldn't of said it any better!!

* clapping hands*

Anita

-- Re: Anyone know of a neuro in N. ca. ?

I need a new neuro in N. cal from sacramento area and above. Mine is sooo

negative it makes me feel like giving up. Everytime I see him I feel worse

mentally than I did before. He makes me feel depressed like life is going

to be

so horrible and he does nothing for the needs I have.