Panic Attacks

[Guest guest]

>From: " " <jeand@...>

>The only time I get real panicky now is if I'm in a new situation ... such

>as going to Houston Space Center ...

>I don't much care to go to Wal-Mart or any other super center type store

>anymore either. I think it's the lights in those places though.

>

>Ann (TX)

Hi Ann,

I have a problem with lights too but esp in large stores or places. The

type of lighting is what sets off my panic/anxiety attack.

And now I have discovered that there is actually an accompanying odor

before the panic/anxiety attack. Which tells me it might on a par with a

seizure [nerve related]. I smell a old urine-in-the-diaper odor, then get

a flutter in my chest and neck area.

Thursday was the first time I noticed it. I would liken it to an aura

before a seizure.

Kiana Rossi (Northern CA)

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Wondering if you had a seizure instead of a myclonic jerk when you bit

your tongue? Something to think about....ask your doctor for an EEG or some

other test to determine if this is the case.

Hugs,

Marta

>From: Kiana Rossi <bornfree@...>

>

>Hi Ann,

>

>I have a problem with lights too but esp in large stores or places. The

>type of lighting is what sets off my panic/anxiety attack.

>

>And now I have discovered that there is actually an accompanying odor

>before the panic/anxiety attack. Which tells me it might on a par with a

>seizure [nerve related]. I smell a old urine-in-the-diaper odor, then get

>a flutter in my chest and neck area.

>

>Thursday was the first time I noticed it. I would liken it to an aura

>before a seizure.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/13/2003 9:21:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mlndhall@... writes:

> I wish there was some magic formula or at least a

> booklet on exactly what to do for each situation.

> Wouldn't that be nice? I am where Fania was. Can I

> just give up? Nope, I'm the mom.

>

> Melinda

>

In addition to the meds, perhaps you can try to dig up a counselor who can

work with him on ways he can mentally interrupt his thinking? Maybe between

meds and counseling, he can work on controlling it??

Roxanna ö¿ö

Autism happens...

[Guest guest]

Melinda,

This much I know. One of the major components of panic disorder are the

panic attacks that are brought on by the fear of another panic attack. I

highly recommend telling his doctor, and if that doesn't help, FIRING his

doctor. clearly needs a different medication for the panic disorder.

I'm sending you all a big hug. This can be difficult to treat, but it's not

impossible. I'll be here.

Love

Tammy

[Guest guest]

What med is taking for his panic attacks????

/ 4makelas@...

Way, Way Up in Northern Ontario

[Guest guest]

Well, I know nothing of either of those meds. I was having panic attacks and

the doc put me on an SSRI. I was just curious because I have become

extremely claustrophobic again lately and wondered if there was a med that

worked better ...

/ 4makelas@...

Way, Way Up in Northern Ontario

----- Original Message -----

From: " Hall Melinda " <mlndhall@...>

> He is currently on 20mg of Lexapro and 40mg of Geodon.

> --- the 4 makelas <4makelas@...> wrote:

> > What med is taking for his panic attacks????

[Guest guest]

I suffer from claustrophobia too. Is there a link to that AND panic

attacks???

a

> > > What med is taking for his panic attacks????

[Guest guest]

Yep had them for yrs. nothing worked until I had my Estradiol " E2 " tested was

high and it had killed my sex life for over 10 yrs. I got it down using

Arimidex. So to help him now get some Zinc/Copper this helps keep E2 down and

is good for his testis.

http://www.myvitanet.com/zincop100cnt.html

Get him tested a test like this one for men.

http://www.labcorp.com/datasets/labcorp/html/chapter/mono/sr012000.htm

Some links on High E2.

http://www.medibolics.com/ArimidexBoostsTestosterone.htm

http://www.smart-drugs.com/ias-estrogen.htm

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-txt/t-prtcl-130.html

He can try DIM a link full of info on this.

http://qualitycounts.com/fpdim.html

Phil

howabout_that <howabout_that@...> wrote:

Hey guys,I was just wondering if you had any panic attacks. Hubby has

started having them. Was wondering if its the low T or the androgel

maybe causing them. Thanks, Kim

[Guest guest]

I've experienced them...but before I was on Androgel. They have been much

better lately...and I've been on Arimidex for about 5 weeks. Just had my E2

tested (no results yet). My uro really understands TRT. He doesn't think the

anxiety/panic is related to the low T, but frankly, I'm not so sure.

howabout_that <howabout_that@...> wrote: Hey guys,I was just wondering if

you had any panic attacks. Hubby has

started having them. Was wondering if its the low T or the androgel

maybe causing them. Thanks, Kim

[Guest guest]

Thanks a bunch,Phil. I knew I could depend on this sight........Kim

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote: Yep had them for yrs. nothing

worked until I had my Estradiol " E2 " tested was high and it had killed my sex

life for over 10 yrs. I got it down using c. So to help him now get some

Zinc/Copper this helps keep E2 down and is good for his testis.

http://www.myvitanet.com/zincop100cnt.html

Get him tested a test like this one for men.

http://www.labcorp.com/datasets/labcorp/html/chapter/mono/sr012000.htm

Some links on High E2.

http://www.medibolics.com/ArimidexBoostsTestosterone.htm

http://www.smart-drugs.com/ias-estrogen.htm

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-txt/t-prtcl-130.html

He can try DIM a link full of info on this.

http://qualitycounts.com/fpdim.html

Phil

howabout_that <howabout_that@...> wrote:

Hey guys,I was just wondering if you had any panic attacks. Hubby has

started having them. Was wondering if its the low T or the androgel

maybe causing them. Thanks, Kim

[Guest guest]

When I started Aciphex which is a prescription

proton pump inhibitor for treatment of chronic

heartburn/acid reflux, I started to have panic

attacks. Proton pump inhibitor cause the

accumulation of estrogen and tend to suppress

testosterone over the longer term.

I found inositol powder taken by the tablespoon

stopped the panic attacks. And now six years later,

I still take inositol at about a teaspoonful a day.

This keeps them at bay.

Currently I trying to my weight down 170 lbs and in

the coming months I plan take steps leading

to testosterone replacement therapy.

My T levels when checked in 2004 where around

~340 to ~380. When I finally got the estrogens

check I'd been off the PPI meds for several

months so they were OK per the labs.

>

> Hey guys,I was just wondering if you had any panic attacks. Hubby has

> started having them. Was wondering if its the low T or the androgel

> maybe causing them. Thanks, Kim

>

[Guest guest]

Ok something new for me today how did taking this help with panic attacks do

your feel it lowed E's. I can't see what it has that helps panic or E's. This

is what I found a C & P.

Phil

Inositol is the common name of myoinositol, the only form of inositol utilized

by the body as a nutrient. Inositol is involved in the glucuronic acid and

pentose phosphate pathways that are responsible for products such as glucose,

glucuronolactone and water.

betaine_hcl <no_reply > wrote:

When I started Aciphex which is a prescription

proton pump inhibitor for treatment of chronic

heartburn/acid reflux, I started to have panic

attacks. Proton pump inhibitor cause the

accumulation of estrogen and tend to suppress

testosterone over the longer term.

I found inositol powder taken by the tablespoon

stopped the panic attacks. And now six years later,

I still take inositol at about a teaspoonful a day.

This keeps them at bay.

Currently I trying to my weight down 170 lbs and in

the coming months I plan take steps leading

to testosterone replacement therapy.

My T levels when checked in 2004 where around

~340 to ~380. When I finally got the estrogens

check I'd been off the PPI meds for several

months so they were OK per the labs.

>

> Hey guys,I was just wondering if you had any panic attacks. Hubby has

> started having them. Was wondering if its the low T or the androgel

> maybe causing them. Thanks, Kim

>

[Guest guest]

Inositol doesn't lower estrogen. Rather it works for

some a little bit like an SSRI med. Albeit further down

the biochemical pathway and is nontoxic manner.

It works for me for panic attacks.

The research available is limited as no

drug company has motive for in depth study.

: J Clin Psychopharmacol. 2001 Jun;21(3):335-9.

Double-blind, controlled, crossover trial of inositol versus

fluvoxamine for the treatment of panic disorder.

Palatnik A, Frolov K, Fux M, J.

Ministry of Health Mental Health Center, Faculty of Health Sciences,

Ben Gurion University of the Negev, Beer-Sheba, Israel.

Only 70% of patients respond to current treatments for panic

disorder, and many discontinue drugs because of side effects. myo-

Inositol, a natural isomer ofglucose and a precursor for the second-

messenger phosphatidyl-inositol system, has previously been found

superior to placebo in the treatment of depression,

panic disorder, and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD),

but a direct comparison with an established drug has never been

performed. A double-blind, controlled, random-order

crossover study was undertaken to compare the effect of inositol

with that of fluvoxamine in panic disorder. Twenty patients

completed 1 month of inositol up to 18 g/day and 1 month of

fluvoxamine up to 150 mg/day.

Improvements on Hamilton Rating Scale for Anxiety scores,

agoraphobia scores, and Clinical Global Impressions Scale scores

were similar for both treatments.

In the first month, inositol reduced the number of panic

attacks per week (mean and SD) by 4.0 (2) compared with a

reduction of 2.4 (2) with fluvoxamine (p = 0.049). Nausea and

tiredness were more common with fluvoxamine (p = 0.02 and p =

0.01, respectively). Because inositol is a natural compound

with few known side effects, it is attractive to patients who are

ambivalent about taking psychiatric medication.

Continuing reports of inositol's efficacy in the

treatment of depression, panic disorder, and OCD should

stimulate replication

studies.

Publication Types:

Clinical Trial

Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 11386498 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

1: Metab Brain Dis. 2004 Jun;19(1-2):51-70.

Effects of myo-inositol versus fluoxetine and imipramine

pretreatments on serotonin 5HT2A and muscarinic acetylcholine

receptors in human neuroblastoma cells.

Brink CB, Viljoen SL, de Kock SE, Stein DJ, Harvey BH.

Division of Pharmacology, Potchefstroom Campus of the North-West

University, Potchefstroom, South Africa. fklcbb@...

myo-Inositol (mI) is a key metabolic precursor to

the phospoinositide (PI) metabolic pathway as a key component of

central G-protein coupled receptor signaling systems, including

several subtypes of adrenergic, cholinergic, serotonergic and

metabotropic glutamatergic receptors. High dose mI has also

been shown to be clinically effective in the treatment of obsessive-

compulsive disorder, as well as panic and depression, although its

mechanism of action remains elusive. The current study aimed to

investigate the possible modulatory role of mI versus fluoxetine or

imipramine pretreatments on serotonin-2A receptor (5HT2A-R) and

muscarinic acetylcholine receptor (mAChR) function and

binding in in vitro systems. After pretreating human neuroblastoma

cells with different concentrations of mI, fluoxetine, or imipramine,

receptor function was measured by second messenger [3H]-IPx

accumulation and [35S]-GTPgammaS binding to G alpha(q) protein. Total

[3H]-mI uptake into cells was measured, as well as specific receptor

binding to determine receptor binding after the pretreatments.

Results suggest that mI reduces 5HT2A-R function at the receptor-G

protein level. While fluoxetine also reduced 5HT2A-R function, but to

a lesser degree, imipramine increased 5HT2A-R function, which may

explain why mI seems to be effective exclusively in selective

serotonin reuptake inhibitor-sensitive disorders. In addition mI, and

at high concentrations fluoxetine and imipramine, also reduces mAChR

function. Furthermore the results suggest that the

attenuating effect of mI on mAChRs is partially dependent on the PI

metabolic pathway. The data provide novel information on

understanding the mechanism of action of mI in depression and related

anxiety disorders and added to the evidence suggesting a role for the

cholinergic system in the pathophysiology of

depression.

PMID: 15214506 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> Ok something new for me today how did taking this help with panic

attacks do your feel it lowed E's. I can't see what it has that

helps panic or E's. This is what I found a C & P.

> Phil

> Inositol is the common name of myoinositol, the only form of

inositol utilized by the body as a nutrient. Inositol is involved in

the glucuronic acid and pentose phosphate pathways that are

responsible for products such as glucose, glucuronolactone and water.

>

> >

[Guest guest]

That was great thanks until now I never heard of it.

Phil

betaine_hcl <no_reply > wrote:

Inositol doesn't lower estrogen. Rather it works for

some a little bit like an SSRI med. Albeit further down

the biochemical pathway and is nontoxic manner.

It works for me for panic attacks.

The research available is limited as no

drug company has motive for in depth study.

: J Clin Psychopharmacol. 2001 Jun;21(3):335-9.

Double-blind, controlled, crossover trial of inositol versus

fluvoxamine for the treatment of panic disorder.

Palatnik A, Frolov K, Fux M, J.

Ministry of Health Mental Health Center, Faculty of Health Sciences,

Ben Gurion University of the Negev, Beer-Sheba, Israel.

Only 70% of patients respond to current treatments for panic

disorder, and many discontinue drugs because of side effects. myo-

Inositol, a natural isomer ofglucose and a precursor for the second-

messenger phosphatidyl-inositol system, has previously been found

superior to placebo in the treatment of depression,

panic disorder, and obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD),

but a direct comparison with an established drug has never been

performed. A double-blind, controlled, random-order

crossover study was undertaken to compare the effect of inositol

with that of fluvoxamine in panic disorder. Twenty patients

completed 1 month of inositol up to 18 g/day and 1 month of

fluvoxamine up to 150 mg/day.

Improvements on Hamilton Rating Scale for Anxiety scores,

agoraphobia scores, and Clinical Global Impressions Scale scores

were similar for both treatments.

In the first month, inositol reduced the number of panic

attacks per week (mean and SD) by 4.0 (2) compared with a

reduction of 2.4 (2) with fluvoxamine (p = 0.049). Nausea and

tiredness were more common with fluvoxamine (p = 0.02 and p =

0.01, respectively). Because inositol is a natural compound

with few known side effects, it is attractive to patients who are

ambivalent about taking psychiatric medication.

Continuing reports of inositol's efficacy in the

treatment of depression, panic disorder, and OCD should

stimulate replication

studies.

Publication Types:

Clinical Trial

Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 11386498 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

1: Metab Brain Dis. 2004 Jun;19(1-2):51-70.

Effects of myo-inositol versus fluoxetine and imipramine

pretreatments on serotonin 5HT2A and muscarinic acetylcholine

receptors in human neuroblastoma cells.

Brink CB, Viljoen SL, de Kock SE, Stein DJ, Harvey BH.

Division of Pharmacology, Potchefstroom Campus of the North-West

University, Potchefstroom, South Africa. fklcbb@...

myo-Inositol (mI) is a key metabolic precursor to

the phospoinositide (PI) metabolic pathway as a key component of

central G-protein coupled receptor signaling systems, including

several subtypes of adrenergic, cholinergic, serotonergic and

metabotropic glutamatergic receptors. High dose mI has also

been shown to be clinically effective in the treatment of obsessive-

compulsive disorder, as well as panic and depression, although its

mechanism of action remains elusive. The current study aimed to

investigate the possible modulatory role of mI versus fluoxetine or

imipramine pretreatments on serotonin-2A receptor (5HT2A-R) and

muscarinic acetylcholine receptor (mAChR) function and

binding in in vitro systems. After pretreating human neuroblastoma

cells with different concentrations of mI, fluoxetine, or imipramine,

receptor function was measured by second messenger [3H]-IPx

accumulation and [35S]-GTPgammaS binding to G alpha(q) protein. Total

[3H]-mI uptake into cells was measured, as well as specific receptor

binding to determine receptor binding after the pretreatments.

Results suggest that mI reduces 5HT2A-R function at the receptor-G

protein level. While fluoxetine also reduced 5HT2A-R function, but to

a lesser degree, imipramine increased 5HT2A-R function, which may

explain why mI seems to be effective exclusively in selective

serotonin reuptake inhibitor-sensitive disorders. In addition mI, and

at high concentrations fluoxetine and imipramine, also reduces mAChR

function. Furthermore the results suggest that the

attenuating effect of mI on mAChRs is partially dependent on the PI

metabolic pathway. The data provide novel information on

understanding the mechanism of action of mI in depression and related

anxiety disorders and added to the evidence suggesting a role for the

cholinergic system in the pathophysiology of

depression.

PMID: 15214506 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

>

> Ok something new for me today how did taking this help with panic

attacks do your feel it lowed E's. I can't see what it has that

helps panic or E's. This is what I found a C & P.

> Phil

> Inositol is the common name of myoinositol, the only form of

inositol utilized by the body as a nutrient. Inositol is involved in

the glucuronic acid and pentose phosphate pathways that are

responsible for products such as glucose, glucuronolactone and water.

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Sammy,

I also have been having cramping from LDN which I have been on for 8 weeks. Mine didn't start until two weeks into LDN. I have seen alot of other improvements though. When I contacted Dr. Skip Lenz from his pharmacy, he said he recommends starting at 1.5 for a month then 3.0 for a month then up to 4.5 if you do okay at the 3.0, but as you may know, it's recommended to stay at 3.0 if you have the spasticy from LDN.

Since I am a newby here too, hopefully others will be along to help, but I would say go down to 1.5 for a month and see if it subsides.

Good Luck, Annette

[Guest guest]

Dave,

I haven't had this side effect, but you could do a search of older posts on the message board and look up perhaps "anxiety" or "panic" and every post mentioning those words will come up. I thought I've seen it mentioned, but you'd need to look to be sure.

Good Luck, Annette

[Guest guest]

Dave, Sorry to hear about your apparant poor response to LDN. I started 3mg

/ day last week and have begun to get severe leg cramps. I need to keep the

muscles hot with bean bags warmed up in the microwave. I stopped the LDN 48

hours ago but still have the cramps, perhaps not so severe. Feeling a bit

disappointed. Any suggestions from the GROUP ? Sammy.

[low dose naltrexone] Panic attacks

>

> Hi my name is Dave I am new to the group is there anyone out there that

> got anxiety or slight panic attacks I am on LDN almost 6 weeks and find

> my MS has got worse my left leg has got very stiff and my left hand has

> got weaker I am having panic attacks and wonder if this happened to

> others starting LDN

>

> Dave (Ireland)

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[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

We did have 2 people that were also going through a similar panic attach

episode a couple of months ago. I will try and see if I can find any of

their previous messages. I am so sorry that it is effecting you in this

way. It is hard to say if your body will work through it in time. It must

be very frustrating. I hope everything comes out well in the end.

Aletha

[low dose naltrexone] Panic attacks

>

> Hi my name is Dave I am new to the group is there anyone out there that

> got anxiety or slight panic attacks I am on LDN almost 6 weeks and find

> my MS has got worse my left leg has got very stiff and my left hand has

> got weaker I am having panic attacks and wonder if this happened to

> others starting LDN

>

> Dave (Ireland)

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave and Sammy,

You might want to give DLP a try. It is an over the counter combo of 2

enzymes and it is recommended to some people by Dr. Bihari, and acts like a

fuel for helping you have good effects from LDN throughout the day. My

husband had depression until the day he started taking it in Feb. of 2005.

He now takes it regularly. Hopefully it will help you both. Please keep us

posted on how you are doing. I will attach info below regarding DLP.

Thanks

Aletha

DLP is short for DL-Phenylalanine. It is a combo of 2 enzymes that usually

can be purchased on line or at a health food store. The day my husband

started it he no longer had depression and he had additional energy. It is

also supposed to help with pain. He started by taking 500mg twice a day.

One in the morning before eating. Then one in the afternoon before eating.

He only takes the morning one now and does just great. When we take the

kids to Disneyland he also takes the afternoon pill and he seems to stay in

a happy mood and has more energy into the evening. It does not seem to

effect his being able to sleep at night. Dr. Bihari recommends using the

Solaray brand, and just recently we had to try another brand and I really

think I notice a difference. I will be lording the Solaray brand again.

Below are some earlier posts regarding DLP.

Aletha

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Low Dose Naltrexone Forum - DL-Phenylalanine 500mg 2x's per day Dr. Bihari

recommends

http://ldn.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=forum & action=display & thread=1091283259

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DL-phenylalanine markedly potentiates opiate analgesia - an example of

nutrient/pharmaceutical up-regulation of the endogenous analgesia system

by

AL, McCarty MF.

Brampton Pain Clinic,

Bramalea, Ontario, Canada.

Med Hypotheses 2000 Oct;55(4):283-8

ABSTRACT

In the author's clinical experience, concurrent treatment with

DL-phenylalanine (DLPA) often appears to potentiate pain relief and also

ease depression in patients receiving opiates for chronic non-malignant

pain. An analysis of this phenomenon suggests that it may be mediated, at

least in part, by up-regulation of the 'endogenous analgesia system' (EAS),

a neural pathway that projects caudally from medullary nuclei to the dorsal

horn of the spinal column; when stimulated by chronic pain or therapeutic

measures such as opiates or acupuncture, the EAS suppresses activation of

second-order pain-receptive neurons in the dorsal horn, and thereby

alleviates pain. Since serotonin and enkephalins are key neurotransmitters

in the EAS, it is reasonable to predict that measures which promote

serotonin activity (such as 5-hydroxytryptophan and serotonin-reuptake

inhibitors) as well as enkephalin activity (such as D-phenylalanine, an

enkephalinase inhibitor) should potentiate EAS-mediated analgesia - a view

consistent with much previous medical research. Comprehensive support of the

EAS with well-tolerated nutrients and pharmaceuticals may amplify the

analgesic efficacy of chronic opiate therapy, while enabling dosage

reductions that minimize opiate side-effects. Analogously, this approach may

complement the efficacy of acupuncture and other analgesic measures that

activate the EAS.

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-. D-phenylalanine is unique among amino acids because the D-form

(normally not found in life) has biological activity, that is different from

its L-stereoisomer. D-phenylalanine has been found to function as a pain

reliever. DL-phenylalanine is a 50/50 mixture of the two stereoisomers.

*****Dosage and use:

- Suggested dose is 500 to 1000 mg in the morning or afternoon.

- More may be necessary for depression or pain.

- These products are most effectively utilized when taken on an empty

stomach mixed with juice or water.

- Adequate cofactors (vitamins B6 and C) should also be taken if not

included with the product.

Caution:

Cancer patients should avoid taking L-phenylalanine and L-Tyrosine.

Certain cancers, such as melanoma, depend on these amino acids to fuel their

growth. Supplemental use of L-phenylalanine and L-Tyrosine may raise or

normalize blood pressure. Insomnia may occur from overstimulation if taken

too close to bedtime

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DLPA is simple shorthand for DL-Phenylanlanine To the best of my limited

knowledge, DLPA DL-Phenylanlanine is like saying " Rio Grande River " .

L-phenylalanine (LPA) serves as a building block for the various proteins

that are produced in the body. LPA can be converted to L-tyrosine (another

amino acid) and subsequently to L-dopa, norepinephrine, and epinephrine. LPA

can also be converted (through a separate pathway) to phenylethylamine, a

substance that occurs naturally in the brain and appears to elevate mood.

D-phenylalanine (DPA) is not normally found in the body and cannot be

converted to L-tyrosine, L-dopa, or norepinephrine. As a result, DPA is

converted primarily to phenylethylamine (the potential mood elevator). DPA

also appears to influence certain chemicals in the brain that relate to pain

sensation.

DLPA is a mixture of LPA and its mirror image DPA. DLPA (or the D- or

L-form alone) has been used to treat depression among other things.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, Ph.D.

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

http://www.survivecancer.net

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Guidelines for Use

As with other amino acid supplements, it's best to take DLPA on an

empty stomach with water or juice about an hour before meals. High-

protein foods, in particular, can interfere with proper absorption.

Store in a cool, dry place, such as a closet shelf, away from heat,

light, and moisture. (Avoid the humid bathroom medicine cabinet.)

General Interaction

Because DLPA exerts its effects through the central nervous system,

avoid taking it with prescription antidepressants or stimulants,

unless specifically instructed to do so by your doctor.

Some research indicates that DLPA can exacerbate facial tics and

other symptoms of tardive dyskinesia, a troubling movement disorder

caused by long-term use of antipsychotic medicines. Stop taking DLPA

and consult your doctor if you are concerned about a reaction you are

having.

As with other amino acids, DLPA may interfere with the effects of

levodopa, a drug commonly used to treat Parkinson's disease. Don't

combine the two.

Possible Side Effects

At recommended doses, DLPA occasionally causes mild side effects,

such as heartburn, nausea, or headaches. At excessive doses (more

than 1,500 mg a day), it can cause numbness, tingling, or other signs

of nerve damage.

DLPA may have the unwanted effect of raising blood pressure, although

the D, L combination form is less likely to do so than supplements

containing only the " L " form of the amino acid.

Cautions

Use DLPA under the supervision of a doctor familiar with its use.

When taken in high doses--greater than 1,500 mg a day--over prolonged

periods of time, nerve damage may develop. Lower doses appear to be

safe.

If you have high blood pressure or are prone to anxiety or panic

attacks, DLPA could seriously aggravate your condition. Let your

doctor know if signs or symptoms worsen while taking DLPA.

Pregnant women should not take DLPA, since it has not been well

studied in this group. If you are planning to become pregnant, let

your doctor know.

If you have been diagnosed with malignant melanoma, a potentially

deadly form of skin cancer, some doctors caution against taking DLPA.

There has been some concern that phenylalanine could stimulate the

cancer cells, although the connection, if any, remains unclear.

Do not take DLPA if you have phenylketonuria (PKU), a rare, inherited

metabolism disorder. People with this disease lack an enzyme that

converts phenylalanine to tyrosine and must follow very strict

dietary guidelines to prevent toxic damage to the nervous system.

Even though DLPA is a potent depression fighter, it should not be

used for this condition at the expense of other health-promoting

strategies, such as exercise and a healthy diet.

Ailments Dosage

Chronic Pain Up to 1,500 mg a day in 2 or 3 divided doses between

meals

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Annette

Dave Ireland

-----Original Message-----From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of annette464@...Sent: 22 April 2006 04:05low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Panic attacksDave, I haven't had this side effect, but you could do a search of older posts on the message board and look up perhaps "anxiety" or "panic" and every post mentioning those words will come up. I thought I've seen it mentioned, but you'd need to look to be sure. Good Luck, Annette

[Guest guest]

Dave,

I took a day off and got panic attacks. Erm, I'm very much pro-LDN

but yes, I guess overall I am a little more panicky. But that may

be to do with my job.

I still think LDN plus supplements is the way to go.

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> Hi my name is Dave I am new to the group is there anyone out there

that

> got anxiety or slight panic attacks I am on LDN almost 6 weeks and

find

> my MS has got worse my left leg has got very stiff and my left

hand has

> got weaker I am having panic attacks and wonder if this happened to

> others starting LDN

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> Dave (Ireland)

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[Guest guest]

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> > Hi my name is Dave I am new to the group is there anyone out

there

> that

> > got anxiety or slight panic attacks I am on LDN almost 6 weeks

and

> find

> > my MS has got worse my left leg has got very stiff and my left

> hand has

> > got weaker I am having panic attacks and wonder if this happened

to

> > others starting LDN

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> > Dave (Ireland)

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Hi Dave, yes I had panic attacks when I first started LDN. I use the

liquid LDN , so I went to a lower dose and worked my way up to 3mg. I

have been on since 1/06 and no more panic attacks. I tried to up to

4mg and panic and heart palps again, so I am staying on 3mg and am

happy with it. My legs also got stiff in the beginning and I thought

I was making my ms worse, but hung in there and now all the side

effects and worse ms symptoms are gone. You might want to try a lower

dose ( like 2 mg ) and then keep increasing every few weeks and see

if that helps. It sure helped me. Some people can only handle 3 mg.

good luck

[Guest guest]

I have suffered from panic attacks for a number of years but usually they were

for a reason. I don't like the inerstate driving and so on. Since I have been

diagnosed with RA just over a year ago and have been taking the meds my panic

seems to be all the time. I take medication for it but now I am at the max on

that. I am now trying to wean myself off of it little by little and have been

somewhat successful. The ativan I have been taking is very very addictive. I

wish I had been more pro-active with my health before my RA or I would have

found a different route. Anybody else have this disorder . Any ideas.

have a painfree day

CArol

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

   I have experienced these in the past and I know many Lymies who share this

experience. The neuro activity of Lyme is well documented. I worked very hard to

seperate the anxiety from what is actually going on. It was incapacitating. My

wife, who is also Lyme positive, also shared this reaction. It actually could be

a form of herxing. Disturb the critters and they disturb you. Make sure you are

taking active anti-spirochetals and actually follow the protocol for healing.

Put more information out so the group knows what you are taking to give you

better feedback.

 

     Jeff

From: First L <snowgirlvt@...>

Subject: [ ] panic attacks

Date: Monday, January 24, 2011, 10:19 PM

 

Okay, 1 month ago I was feeling well and very optimistic about my progress with

the lyme tea I'm taking for my lyme and bartonella. For 3 weeks now I have been

having major anxiety and daily panic attacks, or what I think are panic attacks.

Some days they are so debilitating that I struggle to go to work and function. I

get horrible muscle tremors, sweating, racing pulse and feel like I'm gonna lose

my mind at any point or just plain drop dead. Somedays I wonder if the misery

will ever end. I was taking magnesium and holy basil for this but it doesn't

seem to be helping anymore. Will it ever end? Any recommendations?

[Guest guest]

I am drinking a tea mix of red root, stephania, cats claw, knotweed and smilax

and drink this at 2 oz 3 times per day. Some days I have to take less though

because I feel so horrible. I also take 1,000 mg of vitamin c per day and 400 mg

of magnesium. I also take 1,000 of cod liver oil daily.

My sleep patterns are terrible, usually insomnia. I am exhausted all day but

when I lay down to go to sleep at night I get an inconvenient burst of energy at

10 pm or so and can't sleep.

The brain fog is ridiculous. It takes me 5 times as long to do things as it used

to. But the panic attacks are most alarming.

snowgirlvt@...

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