Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011    Thank you for posting. I've seen a couple of articles on this recently. Just as my husband has adopted a very strict low-fat diet for his rheumatoid arthritis and I've been thinking of adopting the same diet for my MS. I learned about the Swank diet long ago.  My husband is currently following the McDougall diet (based on the Swank diet but even more restrictive).  I've also just finished reading the book " Overcoming multiple sclerosis: an evidence-based guide to recovery " , by Prof. and doctor Jelinek, who has MS. He talks a lot about the Swank diet in his book, as well as other things he thinks are important for recovery.    I hate the thought of going on a very low fat diet. But one point that Jelinek makes in his book that might counter the claims of the low-fat diet myth articles is that in Swank's original research the people who did dramatically best really did stick to a very low fat diet. Those who cut down on their fat, but not by enough, showed no improvement over those who did not follow a low-fat diet at all. Perhaps that is why people are now claiming that low fat is not a panacea. They may not be thinking low-fat enough.    The other point that Jelinek makes in his book and that follows along with what Pollen and other people have written, is that the diet is a whole-plant based diet as well as a low-fat diet. He argues that altered fat is just as bad as saturated fat. And advises keeping even unsaturated fat down. Perhaps we'll find out in the future that eating whole foods and staying away from processed food is the real key. We still have so much to learn about diet.    For people who are interested, Oregon State University Health Center in Portland is currently conducting the first double-blind study of the McDougall diet. (OHSU is where Swank did his work and where Dr. McDougall's son currently works.) I think this is an important study and I can't wait to find out the results.     I'll be interested in reading all the replies to this discussion and from anyone else who has read the Jelinek book. Ann     " I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors. " Jefferson, signer of the Declaration of Independence ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 12:22:01 PM Subject: The Low-Fat Diet Myth  http://bighealthreport.com/506/the-low-fat-diet-myth/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Hi Ann, You mentioned that Professor Jelinek even advises low unsaturated fat. I have not read his book but I have read his website thouroughly and I had the impression that he advises fairly large amounts of polyunsaturated fats, specifically fish oil and flax oil. On the website it says that because fish oil is the stronger, that the first year that should be the focus and then one can switch more into the flax oils. Does it say differently in the book? Or am I misinterpreting? ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Mon, whole-plant based ... He argues that altered fat is just as bad as saturated fat. And advises keeping even unsaturated fat down. Perhaps we'll find out in the future that eating whole foods and staying away from processed food is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Alan,    I would hate to disagree with your interpretation, because you might be reading the information more carefully than I am. I admit to being a bit confused, because at one point reading the book I also was thinking that he wasn't limiting fats except saturated fats, but later he did seem to be. I think that this is because the question of fat is a lot more complicated than it seems to be at first blush.  You are definitely right that he recommends a lot of fish oil and flax oil. He recommends all other polyunsaturated fats a lot less. There are several different reasons for this, including the way oils change when they are cooked.    I think, in the end, that he recommends taking fish and flax oil supplements, with some caveats, but only a small amount of olive oil, if any, when cooking. And very little, if any, of the other polyunsaturated fats.    I just looked at his website, quickly, yesterday and didn't see much that was new from the book. I would recommend reading the book if you can get it easily, rather than the website, simply because it goes into so much more detail.    But, again, to answer your question. Re-read what you read and then believe your interpretation rather than mine. It's as or more likely to be an accurate representation. Ann  " I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors. " Jefferson, signer of the Declaration of Independence ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 1:36:25 PM Subject: Re: The Low-Fat Diet Myth  Hi Ann, You mentioned that Professor Jelinek even advises low unsaturated fat. I have not read his book but I have read his website thouroughly and I had the impression that he advises fairly large amounts of polyunsaturated fats, specifically fish oil and flax oil. On the website it says that because fish oil is the stronger, that the first year that should be the focus and then one can switch more into the flax oils. Does it say differently in the book? Or am I misinterpreting?  ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Mon, whole-plant based ... He argues that altered fat is just as bad as saturated fat. And advises keeping even unsaturated fat down. Perhaps we'll find out in the future that eating whole foods and staying away from processed food is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I posted this not to recommend it, though I was tested for metoblic type and this seems to work for me. I gradually started eating saturated fat from grass-fed beef, free-range eggs and raw organic milk. My skin is working again (I persire now when once I had anhidrosis), I'm clear-headed, I have more strength and several more improvemments. However, not all of us have the same needs. I was a raw food vegan for almost five years and I was having problems towards the end but some people thrive on the diet. I was showing that there is more than one way to skin a cat. I have personal experience with each of those diets and fat has been necessary in my recovery. Diet should be based on need, not dogma. > >    Thank you for posting. I've seen a couple of articles on this recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 And here is where I disagree. Flax is a goitrogen and it screws up your iodine intake (I used to eat a lot of it) and olive oil is not heat stable and should not be used to cook with. Put it in your food after the food is cooked. > > Alan, > >    I would hate to disagree with your interpretation, because you might be > reading the information more carefully than I am. I admit to being a bit > confused, because at one point reading the book I also was thinking that > he wasn't limiting fats except saturated fats, but later he did seem to be. I > think that this is because the question of fat is a lot more complicated than it > seems to be at first blush.  You are definitely right that he recommends a lot > of fish oil and flax oil. He recommends all other polyunsaturated fats a lot > less. There are several different reasons for this, including the way oils > change when they are cooked. > >    I think, in the end, that he recommends taking fish and flax oil > supplements, with some caveats, but only a small amount of olive oil, if any, > when cooking. And very little, if any, of the other polyunsaturated fats. > >    I just looked at his website, quickly, yesterday and didn't see much that > was new from the book. I would recommend reading the book if you can get it > easily, rather than the website, simply because it goes into so much more > detail. > >    But, again, to answer your question. Re-read what you read and then believe > your interpretation rather than mine. It's as or more likely to be an accurate > representation. > > Ann >  " I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws > and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As > that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new > truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of > circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We > might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy > as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous > ancestors. " > > Jefferson, signer of the Declaration of Independence > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: mscured > Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 1:36:25 PM > Subject: Re: The Low-Fat Diet Myth > >  > Hi Ann, > You mentioned that Professor Jelinek even advises low unsaturated fat. I have > not read his book but I have read his website thouroughly and I had the > impression that he advises fairly large amounts of polyunsaturated fats, > specifically fish oil and flax oil. On the website it says that because fish oil > > is the stronger, that the first year that should be the focus and then one can > switch more into the flax oils. > > Does it say differently in the book? Or am I misinterpreting? > >  > > ________________________________ > > To: mscured > Sent: Mon, > whole-plant based ... He argues that altered fat is > just as bad as saturated fat. And advises keeping even unsaturated fat down. > Perhaps we'll find out in the future that eating whole foods and staying away > from processed food is > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 , I will have to re-read. But I think you are right that he recommends primarily fish and flax oil but almost none of the other unsaturated fats. That said, I would guess he does not recommend coconut oil, which many feel is in a class by itself because of mid-chain something or other. I don't recall the terms. Right now I do fluctuate and try to take a PUFA each day, either salmon oil or flax oil. Lately I have also been taking a Barleans Twin Flax and Borage Oil, because I had read elsewhere that some Omega 6 and 9 are good and the Twin Oil gives a 3:1:1 ratio of Omega 3:6:9. The reason I added the Twin (with Flax and Borage combined) is that I am not sure I am getting any 6 or 9 because I don't really eat cooked foods much. I do wonder if Professor Jelinek has a benign MS case as he seems to have had an easier time than most in keeping this illness at bay. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 6:13:52 PM Subject: Re: The Low-Fat Diet Myth Alan, I would hate to disagree with your interpretation, because you might be reading the information more carefully than I am. I admit to being a bit confused, because at one point reading the book I also was thinking that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Thanks , I took the metabolic testing and the results said I was a " mixed " type (per Mercola's testing anyhow). I got a long list of shoulds and shouldn't but felt overwhelmed. I have anidrosis and cog fog among other symptoms. The only place I do sweat is under my arms and sorry for the TMI but it smells rotten! And there's not even much moisture there. Don't know what the heavens is going on in my body and sometimes it's hard not to ask " Why me? " But I digress. I do believe you're probably right that there are different diets suited best for different people. But I ask myself how in the paleolithic days was " man " able to know what diet to eat? ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 6:20:12 PM Subject: Re: The Low-Fat Diet Myth I posted this not to recommend it, though I was tested for metoblic type and this seems to work for me. I gradually started eating saturated fat from grass-fed beef, free-range eggs and raw organic milk. My skin is working again (I persire now when once I had anhidrosis), I'm clear-headed, I have more strength and several more improvemments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 He ate what he had! And besides which, this could be an issue of belief between creation and evolution. How do we know for sure what they ate? Did they all live in the same area? What foods were available to them? The Paleo-diet was not developed until the 1990's. It was not written in stone! > > But I ask myself how in the paleolithic days was " man " able to know what > diet to eat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I read this fact about cooking with Olive Oil and now cook with Coconut Oil from Nutiva. A couple grams of saturated fat from coconuts is way better than Olive Oil Fats after they have been heated and twisted into something worse. -Tim > > > > Alan, > > > >    I would hate to disagree with your interpretation, because you might be > > reading the information more carefully than I am. I admit to being a bit > > confused, because at one point reading the book I also was thinking that > > he wasn't limiting fats except saturated fats, but later he did seem to be. I > > think that this is because the question of fat is a lot more complicated than it > > seems to be at first blush.  You are definitely right that he recommends a lot > > of fish oil and flax oil. He recommends all other polyunsaturated fats a lot > > less. There are several different reasons for this, including the way oils > > change when they are cooked. > > > >    I think, in the end, that he recommends taking fish and flax oil > > supplements, with some caveats, but only a small amount of olive oil, if any, > > when cooking. And very little, if any, of the other polyunsaturated fats. > > > >    I just looked at his website, quickly, yesterday and didn't see much that > > was new from the book. I would recommend reading the book if you can get it > > easily, rather than the website, simply because it goes into so much more > > detail. > > > >    But, again, to answer your question. Re-read what you read and then believe > > your interpretation rather than mine. It's as or more likely to be an accurate > > representation. > > > > Ann > >  " I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws > > and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As > > that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new > > truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of > > circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We > > might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy > > as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous > > ancestors. " > > > > Jefferson, signer of the Declaration of Independence > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Alan Samston <alansamston@> > > To: mscured > > Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 1:36:25 PM > > Subject: Re: The Low-Fat Diet Myth > > > >  > > Hi Ann, > > You mentioned that Professor Jelinek even advises low unsaturated fat. I have > > not read his book but I have read his website thouroughly and I had the > > impression that he advises fairly large amounts of polyunsaturated fats, > > specifically fish oil and flax oil. On the website it says that because fish oil > > > > is the stronger, that the first year that should be the focus and then one can > > switch more into the flax oils. > > > > Does it say differently in the book? Or am I misinterpreting? > > > >  > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ann Baclawski <mbackoh@> > > To: mscured > > Sent: Mon, > > whole-plant based ... He argues that altered fat is > > just as bad as saturated fat. And advises keeping even unsaturated fat down. > > Perhaps we'll find out in the future that eating whole foods and staying away > > from processed food is > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Alan, Yes, he definitely doesn't recommend coconut oil; this is on his web site, since coconut's popularity seems relatively new. This is a severe disappointment to me, since the only dairy substitute I've found, that I actually like , to put in my tea is a coconut creamer. He acknowledges that it's a different kind of fat, but feels that it's closer to saturated than unsaturated fat. I'm sure you know about the disadvantages to fish oil rather than flax oil, primarily the pollutants in fish oil. He addresses the issue of benign cases of MS. I think he gives a figure of about 10% for the number of people that have that form. But his major thesis seems to be that, since we don't know in advance how severe our disability is likely to be, we need to do everything possible to mitigate the disease. He feels that we should try *everything* that might help, from diet, exercise, medications, meditation, etc. If nothing else, one will have the psychological boost of knowing that one is doing whatever possible to counter the disease. I'm lucky. I was diagnosed back in 1977. While I haven't been symptom free, I have spent the last 30+ years able to live my life. But now that I'm in my 50s, I'm finding that I'm having more problems, mostly urinary, fatigue-related and cognitive. My husband tells me that it's just because I'm getting older. But since he feels that he wants to live almost fat-free for his newly diagnosed rheumatoid arthritis, this is a good time for me to adopt the same diet and see if it helps. I am finding more recipes that I like, but I'm really resisting going all the way. If any one is interested, I've just started using the cookbook the " Happy herbivore " and I like almost every recipe that I've made from it. I can definitely recommend that one. Ann " I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors. " Jefferson, signer of the Declaration of Independence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Thanks Ann, Yes I am aware of the unfortunate pollution--metals, mercury, etc in fish, and it's a shame and I do worry about it. The only fish I eat is the Wild Alaskan Salmon and the Wild Alaskan salmon caps. I know this is not guaranteed of being mercury free, but I noticed when I started eating a lot of it, I felt better than before I ate it. What I have read is that with flax oil the body has to make the conversion into DHA, which not all bodies can do, whereas with fish oil it is already in the DHA form. I have wondered about Krill Oil but it seems the only one promoting it is Mercola, who is of course also selling it. Mercola believes that it is free of pollutants but I have not been satisfied with his explanations as to why it is safe. I have yet to hear of any stories of people saying that krill oil helped them a lot, or at all for that matter, so for now am sticking with the wild salmon oil. I like what you wrote about what the good professor writes. I should probably buy his book one of these days but it seemed most of the information was available on his website and my bookshelf is already loaded with books on MS and healing that I haven't yet read. You are, in my book, a lucky person to have gone 30 years with a life not too affected by MS and I think the symptoms you have now can be corrected when you find the right diet for you. Like you, my spouse tends to attribute my symptoms to things other than MS. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 7:02:14 PM Subject: Re: The Low-Fat Diet Myth Alan, Yes, he definitely doesn't recommend coconut oil; this is on his web site, since coconut's popularity seems relatively new. This is a severe disappointment to me, since the only dairy substitute I've found, that I actually like , to put in my tea is a coconut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Ann, Island people have lived on coconuts forever! The condemnation of coconut oil is political. It has a medium chain fatty acid similar to breast milk. It is anti-bacterial, viral and fungal. I have used it for years. Don't believe everything this guy says! I'm not a college professor and I can pick him apart! He has an all-of-the-above philosophy and everything that he says cannot possibly apply to all people. Drink your coconut creamer but do it in moderation if you must. > > Alan, > > Yes, he definitely doesn't recommend coconut oil; this is on his web site, > since coconut's popularity seems relatively new. This is a severe > disappointment to me, since the only dairy substitute I've found, that I > actually like , to put in my tea is a coconut creamer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 " everything that he says cannot possibly apply to all people. " I think this list proves the truth of this mantra. Otherwise, people wouldn't be reporting such different results with such different diets. You are absolutely right that we don't know everything there is to know about coconut oil yet. I don't know if southern people lived on coconut oil such as we produce nowadays. One of Jelinek's complaints about all kind of oils, except extra-virgin olive oil is that our oil processing is so much more refined and involved than it was pre-industrial. (He makes the same claim for extra-virgin olive oil that you make for coconut. Traditional Italian people have a very low rate of MS, bolsering his feeling that it's ok- and even there he recommends not cooking with it as much as possible.) One of the reasons I, personally, am afraid to put to much stock in all the current claims about coconut products is that when I've searched on google, just about everything positive that shows up is financed by some company or individual selling coconut products. I'd love to see more independent research. I'm glad you've had good results with it. I'm going to continue to keep an eye out for more information and probably continue to use coconut products. Thanks to you and Alan for sharing. Ann " I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors. " Jefferson, signer of the Declaration of Independence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 I should have said that I eat extra virgin coconut oil. Italians are very selective about their olive oil, the kind, where it's grown, how old it is...and not all EVCO or EVOO has the same virtues. But this minutea will drive you crazy. The best course of action is to rotate the foods that you eat and don't stress the small stuff! > > " everything that he says cannot possibly apply to all people. " > I think this list proves the truth of this mantra. Otherwise, people > wouldn't be reporting such different results with such different diets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Yeah, the rotating is something I am still not good at! Have to work on that more. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Mon, March 14, 2011 8:37:56 PM Subject: Re: The Low-Fat Diet Myth I should have said that I eat extra virgin coconut oil. Italians are very selective about their olive oil, the kind, where it's grown, how old it is...and not all EVCO or EVOO has the same virtues. But this minutea will drive you crazy. The best course of action is to rotate the foods that you eat and don't stress the small stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 > Diet should be based on need, not dogma. > Absolutely agree. Through lots of experimentation I have found that I feel my best when I stay raw all day (smoothies, salads, nuts, etc) and have a cooked dinner that usually has animal protein. One or two days a week are vegetarian, like pizza night! I get away from this strategy more during winter, but now that spring is coming I will go more raw again, fresh juices and such. Rotating is important for me because I develop new sensitivities easily. And I've never worried about plant-based fats like coconut and avocado. That's what works for me! Crystal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 There are sooo many MS Diets. I try following the Best Bet Diet, but with working full-time sometimes, with my fatigue level, it is very difficult. Which of the diets do you feel is easiest to follow? Thanks, Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Hi Tammy In all honesty, for me, the Best Bet Diet is the only one I can follow. I know that to some i seems a HUGE adjustment to move to, but it is so similar to what I had already been eating (besides cutting out the legumes and lentils *sobs*) as I have never done well on bread or huge amounts of red meat, and had pretty much cut all bread and red meat out of my diet in the last few years before starting the BBD. I just feel so much better on the diet than I had done before. The supplements recommended by the MSRC have helped a lot too - as have the supplements suggested by the members of this group too. I hope that helps. 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) To: mscured From: Tamgober@... Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:32:14 -0400 Subject: Re: The Low-Fat Diet Myth There are sooo many MS Diets. I try following the Best Bet Diet, but with working full-time sometimes, with my fatigue level, it is very difficult. Which of the diets do you feel is easiest to follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 The diet that makes you feel the best! For me it's more fat. For others it is NO fat. > > There are sooo many MS Diets. I try following the Best Bet Diet, but with > working full-time sometimes, with my fatigue level, it is very difficult. > Which of the diets do you feel is easiest to follow? > Thanks, > Tammy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Hi Tammy, I use BBD as well, but I've made a few modifications. I did about 2 years on a combined BBD and raw diet, and I did really well on that. I needed the detox that a raw food diet provides. Now, I'm addressing my oxalate issue, and I'm doing combination of BBD and LOD ( http://www.lowoxalate.info/ ) I'm having even more improvement. Although, I do eat more fats than the BBD suggests. I do better with a bit more healthy fat, and fewer carbs in my diet. Yvette On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:21 PM, < rachael.m.thomas@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Tammy > In all honesty, for me, the Best Bet Diet is the only one I can follow. I > know that to some i seems a HUGE adjustment to move to, but it is so similar > to what I had already been eating (besides cutting out the legumes and > lentils *sobs*) as I have never done well on bread or huge amounts of red > meat, and had pretty much cut all bread and red meat out of my diet in the > last few years before starting the BBD. > I just feel so much better on the diet than I had done before. > The supplements recommended by the MSRC have helped a lot too - as have the > supplements suggested by the members of this group too. > I hope that helps. > > > 'What we do in life, echoes through eternity.' > MARCUS AURELIUS (121 - 180 A.D.) > > To: mscured > From: Tamgober@... > Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:32:14 -0400 > Subject: Re: The Low-Fat Diet Myth > > There are sooo many MS Diets. I try following the Best Bet Diet, but with > working full-time sometimes, with my fatigue level, it is very difficult. > Which of the diets do you feel is easiest to follow? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Hi Tammy, I am having the same problem and after not really being able to stick to the BBD, I am considering switching to the Swank diet and following Professor Jelinek's recommendations, which seem easier. And there are less supplements too. ________________________________ To: mscured Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 5:32:14 PM Subject: Re: The Low-Fat Diet Myth There are sooo many MS Diets. I try following the Best Bet Diet, but with working full-time sometimes, with my fatigue level, it is very difficult. Which of the diets do you feel is easiest to follow? Thanks, Tammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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