Massage

August 12, 1999

Hi Barbara,

Massage thereapy sounds great, but how much does it cost and does medicaid

pay?

J

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>From: barbara ann <barbara99ann@...>

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>Elena,

>I realize that the severity of certain conditions do

>warrant such treatments, but the side effects of those

>meds seem to outweigh the benefits. I think most

>people are overly sensitive to meds, many people can't

>take some at all. Then there are those who get into a

>downward spiral over them. They'll take pill, before

>long another pill is added to combat the side effect

>of the first one. Then, yet another pill is added

>because of the side effects of the second pill, on and

>on.

>I used to be a massage therapist pre transplant life,

>and some clients were able to reduce or eliminate meds

>for depression and anxiety (their doctors decision),

>with the help of massage. There are plenty of

>alternatives out there which use external means of

>relaxation, especially in CA. They may work for you,

>but any change in meds should be with the advice of

>your doctor. Many insurance cos. are now covering

>alternative treatments if they're prescribed by your

>doctor. Just a thought.

>Thanks for the info on CCH, I knew it meant unknown,

>how creepy is that??? The person I met had to have a

>transplant due to it.

>Sometimes, I just wonder...WHAT NEXT!!!!!

>Barbara Ann

>AIH Transplant Recipient

>P.S. TTYL, gotta go out now.

>

><Thanks for you info Barbara. I have a positive ANA

>and

>ASMA and was taking Serzone and Paxil. My enzymes

>increased rapidly and when I stopped taking serzone my

>enzymes returned to normal. As far as I know they are

>still normal even though I take paxil. At the time i

>was also taking vitamins, so they could have also been

>the problem. Maybe my liver is just more sensitive,

>having AIH.

>Elena>

>

>---------------------------

August 13, 1999

--- susan johnson <shireen42@...> wrote:

> From: " susan johnson " <shireen42@...>

> Hi Barbara,

> Massage thereapy sounds great, but how much does it

> cost and does medicaid pay?

> J>

Hi ,

The prices vary throughout the country, it could be

$45 to $100 per hour. If you have to pay out of

pocket, you might want to check the yellow pages and

look for schools which offer cert. massage therapy

courses. Each class has an internship to fulfill and

you can usually get a massage at the school for a

nomial fee. I don't know anything about medicaid, if

they do cover it, you'll need a 'prescription' from

your doctor.

Barbara Ann

_________________________________________________________

September 2, 1999

It is SO nice to be able to talk about these things. Even when everyone has a

different solution for some of the common problems, I feel that there are

options out there and that sooner or later something will help. I have found

myself using this list more and more. I confess that, for a long time, I

deleted a lot of the e-mail when the subject line didn't grab me because

there is such an overwhelming amount of mail. But I've discovered that I may

be missing some really great information by doing that, so I at least scan

everything now. Thanks for your input.

September 3, 1999

Hi

Sharon is right, you are under a sheet, and it is very discreet, I am a fatty

and Oh Well, i was super sore for a few days, but felt so good by the 3 day,

it was like she rubbed the toxins right out for a while.

Hugs,

Connie

March 21, 2000

I find this to be incredibly helpful. If I am in any kind of pain I do the reflexology pressing or massage combined with Life Lift. It never fails me.

Why are you still up, little girl? You were supposed to be going to bed ages ago. LOL.

I am going to bed in a few minutes myself. It is one in the morning here. In case everyone has not figured it out already, I am turning into a night person. Seem to function better and get more done late. Love sitting here sharing messages and answering mail before I go to sleep. It makes me feel very satisfied to think I have accomplished so much. I do some Life Lift and sleep like a little baby.

Sweet dreams!

Rashelle

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Massage

From: chezmich@... Hi Rashelle,I wanted to ask you about this...so I'm glad you mentioned it. I've gotten amazing results with the breath coupled with flex in specific areas, for pain relief. It's been a great aid for easing my arthritis pain before sleeping, particularly in my knees. But in painful areas that aren't so easily flexed, would massage coupled with breathing be of equal benefit? Would massage still cause the oxygen to be drawn to that specific area?Thank you as always,Michele B> Hi Wanda,> You might want to try to do same massage on your legs along with your Life > Lift breaths. This will help focus the oxygen to that area, just like when > you do it for your face and you notice how pretty your skin looks. Same for > your legs.> Try it for awhile and let me know what you think.> Rashelle>

March 21, 2000

Hi , this isn't Rashelle, but when I was taking my courses in massage therapy, what we learned is that it stimulates blood flow, lymph drainage, etc... Wouldn't stand to reason that if you are combining the breathing with massage you would be sending incredibly oxygenated blood to those areas. What a boost and what a great idea! Thanks, guys. I wonder if I could get clients to breath deep during massage, Lord knows it's hard enough to get some ppl to relax and let go! Anyway, I hope you all have a great day! W from Oz

Massage

From: chezmich@... Hi Rashelle,I wanted to ask you about this...so I'm glad you mentioned it. I've gotten amazing results with the breath coupled with flex in specific areas, for pain relief. It's been a great aid for easing my arthritis pain before sleeping, particularly in my knees. But in painful areas that aren't so easily flexed, would massage coupled with breathing be of equal benefit? Would massage still cause the oxygen to be drawn to that specific area?Thank you as always,Michele B> Hi Wanda,> You might want to try to do same massage on your legs along with your Life > Lift breaths. This will help focus the oxygen to that area, just like when > you do it for your face and you notice how pretty your skin looks. Same for > your legs.> Try it for awhile and let me know what you think.> Rashelle>

March 21, 2000

,

You are so right. By stimulating the point with pressure, massage or just pressing and adding the oxygen with the Life Lift breaths you are feeding healing fuel to the area. You are targeting the oxygen to a specific place to heal.

So, if something hurts or does not feel right, press and to some Life Lift breaths. I like to pinch the tops of my ears while I do Life Lift. It gives me an energy rush and really clears out my head. I actually feel like it stimulates my creativity.

Have a wonderful day! The sun is shining bright on all of us today!

Love, Rashelle

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Massage

From: chezmich@... Hi Rashelle,I wanted to ask you about this...so I'm glad you mentioned it. I've gotten amazing results with the breath coupled with flex in specific areas, for pain relief. It's been a great aid for easing my arthritis pain before sleeping, particularly in my knees. But in painful areas that aren't so easily flexed, would massage coupled with breathing be of equal benefit? Would massage still cause the oxygen to be drawn to that specific area?Thank you as always,Michele B> Hi Wanda,> You might want to try to do same massage on your legs along with your Life > Lift breaths. This will help focus the oxygen to that area, just like when > you do it for your face and you notice how pretty your skin looks. Same for > your legs.> Try it for awhile and let me know what you think.> Rashelle>

March 21, 2000

> Why are you still up, little girl? You were supposed to be going to bed

ages

> ago. LOL.

> I am going to bed in a few minutes myself. It is one in the morning here.

In

> case everyone has not figured it out already, I am turning into a night

> person.

Seems I am too, Rashelle. Days are tense, I think I have the world's most

stressful job. I'm very grateful to be learning from you, relaxation

techniques that I have been using every night. Breathing, reflexology, yes

even a soft scent in the room has made a tremendous difference. Reading the

messages from you and the special ladies here has become a part of that

nightly ritual. I'm sleeping as I never have before. When I finally get

around to it, that is. <g>

Michele B.

chezmich@...

prosecutor@...

March 22, 2000

The ears, like the feet that you described earlier, represent the whole body so you can do ear reflexology! Handy when you're out in public and don't want to make a spectacle rubbing that shoeless foot in your lap. I to find it energizing.

Kate :~)

Re: Massage

From: "Rashelle Haines" <rashelle@...>

,

You are so right. By stimulating the point with pressure, massage or just pressing and adding the oxygen with the Life Lift breaths you are feeding healing fuel to the area. You are targeting the oxygen to a specific place to heal.

So, if something hurts or does not feel right, press and to some Life Lift breaths. I like to pinch the tops of my ears while I do Life Lift. It gives me an energy rush and really clears out my head. I actually feel like it stimulates my creativity.

Have a wonderful day! The sun is shining bright on all of us today!

Love, Rashelle

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March 22, 2000

Kate,

You are too wonderful! You have such a great way of putting things. You are so right. I really never thought of it this way, but it is true. Often when I travel, I do reflexology on my hands and ears while I am sitting on the plane. I feel so great by the time I reach my destination, it really is incredible. I am hooked on Reflexology, and combined with Life Lift, it is the best!!

Hugs,

Rashelle,

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Re: Massage

From: "Rashelle Haines" <rashelle@...>

,

You are so right. By stimulating the point with pressure, massage or just pressing and adding the oxygen with the Life Lift breaths you are feeding healing fuel to the area. You are targeting the oxygen to a specific place to heal.

So, if something hurts or does not feel right, press and to some Life Lift breaths. I like to pinch the tops of my ears while I do Life Lift. It gives me an energy rush and really clears out my head. I actually feel like it stimulates my creativity.

Have a wonderful day! The sun is shining bright on all of us today!

Love, Rashelle

You are welcome to visit us at http://www.angelmagic.com or http://www.lifelift.com These are Rashelle's personal web sites, any others belong to distributors.join our discussion group at LifeLift-subscribeonelist

March 22, 2000

Hi Michele,

I am glad you are feeling more peaceful. I find that no matter how much I have to do that if I put it all into perspective and do some breathing as I go, that nothing seems overwhelming to me. I think many would go a bit crazy if they even looked at what I do in a day, but I find it fulfilling and so I just glide on through. I find staying up to get caught up on e-mail is something I enjoy and love. I was always a sleepy head, early to bed and late to wake, but now, I find I need less sleep. I think it is because of all the love I am being infused with daily from all of you precious and wonderful people on the lists. I know that love and positive thoughts are actually very healing not only to the soul, but also to the body.

How wonderful that we can be feeding each other emotional nourishment this way. No wonder we are seeing so much weight lost, we are living on love!

Isn't it great!

Take care and sweet dreams. I am actually going to go do some preparation for the new videos to be mailed out soon.

Rashelle

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Re: Massage

From: chezmich@... > Why are you still up, little girl? You were supposed to be going to bed ages > ago. LOL.> I am going to bed in a few minutes myself. It is one in the morning here. In > case everyone has not figured it out already, I am turning into a night > person.Seems I am too, Rashelle. Days are tense, I think I have the world's most stressful job. I'm very grateful to be learning from you, relaxation techniques that I have been using every night. Breathing, reflexology, yes even a soft scent in the room has made a tremendous difference. Reading the messages from you and the special ladies here has become a part of that nightly ritual. I'm sleeping as I never have before. When I finally get around to it, that is. <g>Michele B.chezmich@...prosecutor@...

April 11, 2000

Healthy massage? How long are your arms? Just kiddin'. What is this

called? Maybe someone does it over here in my neighborhood.

Ann

in Florida

December 2, 2001

Dear Pat, this is my own opinion, I am not qualified in any way apart

from being a nurse. Massage helps with drainage of the lymphatic

system, which I feel helps remove unwanted toxins from the body. I

have a son with a brain tumor and I use essential oils that I massage

into certain areas of his body (ones closest to the tumor and

relevant reflex points). If you were to massage, may I suggest using

some oils with anti cancer properties such as frankinscense,

peppermint and lemon. I work with a urologist and she was telling me

that alot of her patients with prostate cancer are into paw paw

(papaya) as it has many anti cancer properties. Best wishes Sue

December 3, 2001

Thanks very much, Sue. I think I'm getting the idea that massage can't hurt

as long as it doesn't hurt. Pat

Re: Massage

> Dear Pat, this is my own opinion, I am not qualified in any way apart

> from being a nurse. Massage helps with drainage of the lymphatic

> system, which I feel helps remove unwanted toxins from the body. I

> have a son with a brain tumor and I use essential oils that I massage

> into certain areas of his body (ones closest to the tumor and

> relevant reflex points). If you were to massage, may I suggest using

> some oils with anti cancer properties such as frankinscense,

> peppermint and lemon. I work with a urologist and she was telling me

> that alot of her patients with prostate cancer are into paw paw

> (papaya) as it has many anti cancer properties. Best wishes Sue

>

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May 26, 2002

regarding a massage I get one every 2 weeks cause it takes a week to get over

it.

but it does loosen up the muscles which then helps with the bones, which then

I'm capable of walking, getting rid of those toxins is really helping me.

you may have to search until you find someone that is qualified to help. The

lady that I go to has folks driving over a 100 miles one way to see her. it

took about 3 visits before I really saw an improvement, and my Chiro does

alot of stretching along with the pops.

My rheumy is got to be of the best in the nation, I've also got a gp (now)

that is friends with him, I've learned from others- you want all your Dr.'s

to be friends.

Hugs,

Jan

June 14, 2002

I've been treating my FM and PA with massages - chiro, physical therpy and of

course my rheumy. I had a massage yesterday - more a relaxing type - GREAT

facial, which this helped my neck and shoulders greatly. I'm gonna do this

again.

I'm beginning to see a improvement in my neck and shoulders - now if I can

get my back to respond. I'm taking arava - mobic and ultram. plus flaxseed

oil - msm -

primrose oil - Q10 - and a multi-vit. I've never had a response from taking

gluo - and other herbal joint remanies, but I still take them ever so often.

I'm on the enbrel list and I've been approved for Remicide. my new shoes

(brand name Merrell) have helped my feet alot - (had surgery on my foot last

Sept. - " still healing " ) so now I'm going to target my back - hips and hands.

going to the chiro today - a deep massage for my back on tuesday. also I

will place one of those pain pads (over the counter) on my back or hips and

wear all day and that will help also.

I've got a Great family - which keeps my spirits up.

Hugs, Jan

January 30, 2003

Hi All,

I keep thinking about massage but I bruise so easily, platelettes at 39K, that I worry I'll end up a bag of bruises even worse than I normally have. Has anyone with this kind of count had massage? How did it go?

Amy

January 30, 2003

Hi Amy - What would I give for a massage right now but like you I wonder what I'd look like afterwards. We'll just have to dream it wont we Amy!

Jan

[ ] Re: Massage

Hi All, I keep thinking about massage but I bruise so easily, platelettes at 39K, that I worry I'll end up a bag of bruises even worse than I normally have. Has anyone with this kind of count had massage? How did it go?Amy

February 2, 2003

Amy,

My platelet count is in the 57 range now, but it has been that low before Beta blockers. At that range the doctor told me to do nothing that would cause bruising. To only lift 10 lbs and to be careful even shaving my legs. I would not have even considered a massage because I would have looked like someone beat me up. I guess you could ask your doctor but when mine was that low I wouldn't even think of it.

I wouldn't consider it now because the bruising is so bad.

Ask your doctor.

.

April 8, 2003

Hi..I must say that after my first surgery I was sent for PT. I hated every

min of it EXCEPT for the massage on my lower back..I could have layed there

for hours...

April 8, 2003

Hi..I must say that after my first surgery I was sent for PT. I hated every

min of it EXCEPT for the massage on my lower back..I could have layed there

for hours...

April 9, 2003

-

I'm pretty sure that my Insurance doesn't cover it either, but

since I'm a paying member of the health center, the member

rate for a one hour massage is $55. I've made the choice

to tighten my financial belt and free up the money to go

every week. It's amazing how much fast food can cost

these days. My microwave is getting some use.

I know what you mean about deaths of loved ones. My

dad passed away last October after about 5 months of

terminal illness. I had my cervcial surgery on the last

day of August and could not be there at the very end.

Now I face this third surgery just about 9 months later.

I know that a lot of you are in a lot more physical pain

than I am, but sometimes this sh*t just really piles up

on you.

> Joe, I think you're 100% on the ball for massage. My massage

> therapist/friend is a big part of my preparing for surgery and now

> post-surgical recovery. Insurance doesn't cover it, but I don't

> give a rat's rear end - I figure my life and health are worth it.

> Expenses be damned. I guess I should add that having two very close

> married friends die within 6 months of one another radically changes

> your outlook on life and what's important and what's not. The

> massage makes such a difference in how you feel physically, and

> especially emotionally.

>

> >

April 9, 2003