To

[Guest guest]

Hi I am sorry that you are so unhappy with your N22. I hope

you have consulted experienced research center audiologists that

have a lot of experience with programming before giving up on your

N22. I just recently witnessed someone, whose implant had been

totally non functional for them, causing them physical symptoms as

was as distorted hearing for a number of years, be reprogrammed by a

very skilled audiologist and not only got rid of the distortion and

physical symptoms, but also gained enough skill to use that

previosly non functional implant on the telephone.

Regarding the N22 program strategies...SPEAK was the latest

programming strategy offered for the N22. I experienced 3 program

strategy changes in my N22 history, F0/F1/F2, MPeak, and then

SPEAK. Cochlear continues to work at improving the programminig

strategies for the N22. The 3G is not just a cosmetic change, but

improved programming strategy. The results of the lastest, soon to

be available, 3G for the N22 have shown an increase in speach

comprehension for N22 users, over the Spectra processor and the

ESPrit22. For more detail, check out this out:

http://www.cochlearamericas.com/pdfs/nraug03.pdf

You are correct that the N24 offers a choice in ACE, and CIS that

are not currently compatible with the N22 electrode, however

Cochlear continues to work on improving the programming strategies

for the N22 and makes all improvements backward compatible for all

Nucleus users.

You are very lucky that CIS was a viable program strategy for you. I

was reimplanted in 2000 after an MRI, and checked out all

manufacturers devices before deciding which to go with. If I had

gone with the Clarion, I would have been in trouble as CIS does't

work for me.

Hang in there and don't give up on better hearing by possibly

reactivating that N22 with the 3G. I hear that bilateral is a great

experience. Cheers, Ruth

<lindat@t...> wrote:

> ,

>

> The N22 is NOT backwards compatible. Having a nice BTE doesn't

substitute for not having choices in strategy. I could not use

SPEAK, and it was all that was available, so the N22 was a failure

for me. This has not changed. The N22 can NOT support any program

but SPEAK, and I don't think Cochlear has any plans to fix that......

>

> So your post about not needing surgery to get the latest

improvements when you go with Cochlear is not always true, it wasn't

true for me.

>

> Why are you pushing Cochlear so much, on this forum and on the

other ones? Why not just support people in better hearing without

being so brand focused? All brands have their plusses and minuses.

>

> S.

> upstate NY

> N22 10/96 (not using)

> Clarion CII 5/01

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: M Jansen

> Cochlear has ALWAYS made things backward compatible, so when

the

> Nucleus 4 system is released, any improvements they have should

also be

> something folks with the older implants can use as well. I'm

just going

> on the past now with this. The 3G worked with both the N24 and

the N24C,

> and it has now been made for the N22. The folks with older

N22's went

> through several upgrades in body worn processors and to the

ESPrit BTE

> for N22 as well. None of the upgrades required new surgery

either.

> So, choose from what is available today rather than waiting

for what

> is " coming real soon " because the time to start hearing is NOW.

>

>

> Nucleus Volunteer

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , I talked to Wayne at Clos and he said it was probably just a flu

and unless I had stomach pain I was okay. No real stomach pain just

tenderness. I still have a temp of 100 day 3. If not gone by tomorrow I will

make an

appointment.

donna pinto

273/214

12/09/03

[Guest guest]

i will cetainly be praying for you. You have ben through so

much. I just hate to hear that the aih may be attacking again.

Rosemary

In , " dagelo " <dagelo@c...> wrote:

> Hi ,

> I'm a 48 year old nurse, mostly ICU work, until 2 years ago when I

received a living donor transplant for hepatic failure due to AIH and

PBC. I believe the start of all my problems was a stone blocking the

common bile duct which led to pancreatitis about 3 years prior to

diagnosis of AIH. I supposed the pain and fatigue were age and

stress related as my husband had passed away and my kids were 10 and

12. After consult with a local hep, I was advised to see the

transplant team at Shands in Gainesville. My donor was able to

return to work 3 weeks later with no complaints. My story was

complicated by acute rejection, leakage of bile and fluids at the

surgical site, and a blockage in the biliary system. A stent was

placed at ERCP. 3 months later, the stent was removed (by ERCP) and

I went into a septic coma for 2 weeks. I was really doing fine until

April this year when my enzymes started rising. Even after I was

placed back on 40 mg prednisone and 100 mg Imuran, they still are

rising (I am also on Prograf, CellCept, Ursodiol, insulin for brittle

diabetes, betablockers, synthroid...and others). There have been

plenty of lifestyle changes that I had to make, and until the new

prednisone, I had gotten down to my normal weight of 130#. I was

actually feeling GREAT!

> Now, an ERCP and biopsy are scheduled for next Thursday at Shands

to rule out biliary blockage.

> I ask for prayers and will send mine to all of you. We will

survive this!

> Warm regards,

>

[Guest guest]

Increadible Story ! U ahve been thru a great deal.

I will be thinking of U and hoping all goes well next Thursday!

Hugs

Trish

> Hi ,

> I'm a 48 year old nurse, mostly ICU work, until 2 years ago when I

received a living donor transplant for hepatic failure due to AIH and

PBC. I believe the start of all my problems was a stone blocking the

common bile duct which led to pancreatitis about 3 years prior to

diagnosis of AIH. I supposed the pain and fatigue were age and

stress related as my husband had passed away and my kids were 10 and

12. After consult with a local hep, I was advised to see the

transplant team at Shands in Gainesville. My donor was able to

return to work 3 weeks later with no complaints. My story was

complicated by acute rejection, leakage of bile and fluids at the

surgical site, and a blockage in the biliary system. A stent was

placed at ERCP. 3 months later, the stent was removed (by ERCP) and

I went into a septic coma for 2 weeks. I was really doing fine until

April this year when my enzymes started rising. Even after I was

placed back on 40 mg prednisone and 100 mg Imuran, they still are

rising (I am also on Prograf, CellCept, Ursodiol, insulin for brittle

diabetes, betablockers, synthroid...and others). There have been

plenty of lifestyle changes that I had to make, and until the new

prednisone, I had gotten down to my normal weight of 130#. I was

actually feeling GREAT!

> Now, an ERCP and biopsy are scheduled for next Thursday at Shands

to rule out biliary blockage.

> I ask for prayers and will send mine to all of you. We will

survive this!

> Warm regards,

>

[Guest guest]

, it sounds like you've been through so much. I wish you all the best next week.

I am scheduled for a consult at Shands on Aug. 17th. You are the only one on the board that I can remember who has gone there. I wonder if you could email me privately, as I have a couple of questions. Where do you live? I live in Pensacola, FL.

If you care to, please email me at legalasst@...

Thanks, and best wishes,

nne

[ ] to

Hi ,

I'm a 48 year old nurse, mostly ICU work, until 2 years ago when I received a living donor transplant for hepatic failure due to AIH and PBC. I believe the start of all my problems was a stone blocking the common bile duct which led to pancreatitis about 3 years prior to diagnosis of AIH. I supposed the pain and fatigue were age and stress related as my husband had passed away and my kids were 10 and 12. After consult with a local hep, I was advised to see the transplant team at Shands in Gainesville. My donor was able to return to work 3 weeks later with no complaints. My story was complicated by acute rejection, leakage of bile and fluids at the surgical site, and a blockage in the biliary system. A stent was placed at ERCP. 3 months later, the stent was removed (by ERCP) and I went into a septic coma for 2 weeks. I was really doing fine until April this year when my enzymes started rising. Even after I was placed back on 40 mg prednisone and 100 mg Imuran, they still are rising (I am also on Prograf, CellCept, Ursodiol, insulin for brittle diabetes, betablockers, synthroid...and others). There have been plenty of lifestyle changes that I had to make, and until the new prednisone, I had gotten down to my normal weight of 130#. I was actually feeling GREAT!

Now, an ERCP and biopsy are scheduled for next Thursday at Shands to rule out biliary blockage.

I ask for prayers and will send mine to all of you. We will survive this!

Warm regards,

[Guest guest]

I must dispell the age myth and cemented hips. It is a tried and

true method and some docs go with what they know. I was 40 when I

had my LTHR in 1997. It is metal/poly and cemented. The RTHR was

the same. The RTHR was revised June 7, 2004, because it loosened due

to an auto accident. It is also metal/poly cemented. All are Zimmer.

The only restrictions I will have is no running, jumping or kicking.

I have not tried Scuba again. Check with DAN - Divers Alert Network.

I hate to say it, but because of your profession, the doc may be more

reluctant to chose for you. It really is their job to chose the best

system for you based upon their experience. Research and ask what he

thinks is best. Mention some off the wall procedure, true or not,

and if he doesn't flinch, RUN! If he does not offer suggestions,

RUN. Hopefully he will come aroung and help you. If not find

another doc.

Sue

>

>

> Regarding the best " kind of replacement, " that is a difficult

> question to answer. There are many, many choices and companies that

> make the devices.

>

> I can only express some of my own personal views. It is my

> understanding that less active and usually older people get a

> cemented device.

>

> I'm no spring chicken, but I have always been active, and my

surgeon

> selected uncemented. One has to be more careful during the first

six

> weeks with the uncemented variety.

>

> Some doctors have preferences of brands, depending on their own

> experience or which company does the best wining and dining.

Doctors

> receive lots of indirect benefits from drug and device companies--

> such as so-called free seminars at Club Med in Tahiti, etc. But

> that's another story.

>

> My doctor did the selecting for me. I have a device made by DePuy,

> which is a subsidary of & . The device I have

> supposedly has double the mobility of the usual devices. Perhaps

> that is true. I have no complaints yet. It is uncemented.

>

> The cup is called " Gyros " and the stem is called " Corail. " My scar

> seems to be about half the length of the scars on many of the

> hippies with whom I've exchanged data.

>

> Regarding playing tennis with your wife, I have read that it is

> better for post-hip-op hippies to play doubles. YOu've must avoid

> excessively high impact sports.

>

> Bicycling is good, so is cross-country skiing. As should always be

> the case, hiking should be done with care. Falling is easy to do on

> some trails. Falling is also easy to do on stairs in a house, so....

>

> I hope I haven't confused you.

>

> Staninfrance

>

>

> SUZANNE: please excuse me for stepping on your message. I have

> tried to send a message to the board, with no luck. My surgeon

> called me this afternoon and asked what kind of replacement joint I

> wanted. I told him: " what would you want if you were me? " He

shined

> me on and wouldn't recommend anything. I am 59 years old, 6'2 "

tall

> and 220 lbs. I am a lawyer and mostly sedentary; maybe because of

> my hip or maybe because of genetics. I want to be able to hike,

> scuba dive, and play tennis with my wife, and do her bidding in the

> yard/garden. Any suggestions? Thanks,

[Guest guest]

, have you reviewed the information on ActiveJoints.com,

there are summaries of all the products and links to manufacturers,

etc.

http://www.ActiveJoints.com

Hope that helps and good luck,

-

> SUZANNE: please excuse me for stepping on your message. I have

> tried to send a message to the board, with no luck. My surgeon

> called me this afternoon and asked what kind of replacement joint I

> wanted. I told him: " what would you want if you were me? " He

shined

> me on and wouldn't recommend anything. I am 59 years old, 6'2 "

tall

> and 220 lbs. I am a lawyer and mostly sedentary; maybe because of

> my hip or maybe because of genetics. I want to be able to hike,

> scuba dive, and play tennis with my wife, and do her bidding in the

> yard/garden. Any suggestions? Thanks,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/15/2004 10:07:51 PM Central Standard Time, kbrews@... writes:

http://www.ActiveJoints.com

______

Anyone know of a similar site for the Total Knee parts and approaches?

y

[Guest guest]

-

We're in Phoenix/sdale [i say it that way because our address is

sdale, but I believe the boundary is technically Phoenix]. My husband's in

education, so I can give you the scoop on schools if you have an idea where you

want to settle. Re doctors, you know there are no pediatric rheumatologists in

Arizona?? All the same, there are many rheumatologist who treat children

here, and a handful who focus a large portion of their practices on children.

Ours

is awesome. The Arthritis Foundation chapter here is very active too. I can

tell you about all that. Feel free to email me directly: dbornscheu@...

or diane.bornscheuer@....

Diane (, 5, pauci, iritis)

[Guest guest]

Go to www.phsciences.com/shop/ this is the site that I order from. I

communicated with them and the manufacturers about the product and posted their

findings on this board. The coffee tamer removes approx 90% of all tannic acid

in all drinks and food. Hope that this helps.

Billie

01/08/2004

High Point, NC

Dr. Walsh/Dr. R.

337/214

>

> From: " kbaleez " <Baleez@...>

> Date: 2004/09/08 Wed PM 07:36:34 EDT

>

> Subject: Re: to

>

>

[Guest guest]

Barb,

I've appreciated every nurse I've been involved with in fighting my

Leukemia (AML) at s Hopkins. I thanked everyone of them. It was

amazing they all worked in this floor of 17 Leukemia patients, most of

whom had poor chances of survival. I still don't know how they do it

month after month. It amazes me how they deal with such sorrow.

My thanks to you and all the nurses out there saving lives and keeping

patient's sprits up.

Curt

[ ] To

Hi ,

First of all, this is not about me. I did not respond for that

purpose. I

responded to your post, in an effort to educate people on this list,

and let

them know that the book is misleading.

I wrote:

<< " The reason I say this, is that I get calls from very many people

who

have

read the book, and followed the instructions, and have problems, and

need

help. Most are devastated that they are not cured in 30 days. " >>

I think perhaps,there was some miscommunication here. First of all,

the

people who call me for help after failing Barefoot's 30 day system, are

people

who call me afterwards. These are not people with whom I have

previously

worked, and they are not my clients when they first call. They are

calling me

for help.

You wrote:

<< " And, I also employ several other modalities to treat my cancer

such as

a macrobiotic diet in combination with Dr. Budwig's flax oil regimen. I

also

exercise regularly,use wheatgrass when I can and avoid all chemicals

and

stress as much as possible. " >>

I also use many, other modalities, including all of those you listed

above,

and many, many more. I work with people individually, and I work out

programs for each.

You wrote:

<< " I am not medically certified (I wouldn't want to spend my

hard-earned

$$$ and time learning a trade that doesn't teach anything about how to

heal

disease), ... " >>

Boy, that is a little offensive. First of all, it is not a trade. You

might think differently, if someone close to you winds up in an ICU,

and you are

depending upon those nurse to save a life. Although I utilize

alternative

and complementary means, now, it is still offensive to me, to hear

things like

that being said about people who work extemely hard, for little pay,

and are

treated badly, and who go into nursing because of a love of helping

people.

I sure hope that with that attitude, you do not wind up in the hospital

any

time soon. This kind of thinking is the reason there is a nursing

shortage,

and the reason there are not enough nurses to take care of people in

the

hospital. One of these days, really bad things are going to happen

because there

are not enough nurses, and then people are going to think twice about

they

way they have treated nurses.

You wrote:

<< " ...but common sense tells me that cancer is fought with every

thought,

action, and bite of food we put in our mouth. Maybe your patients that

are

not healing in a sufficiently expedient way need more understanding of

this. "

>>

I don't know who you are to pass judgement on me and the way I deal

with my

clients, and I don't need to prove anything, but believe me, I educate

my

clients very well. I spent 6 hours on the phone today with one couple,

and they

are calling back tonight. I cover every aspect of their diets and

lifestyles.

You wrote:

<< " To make a long story short Barb, if terminally ill patients come

to you

for a magic bullet for their illness, and don't do as much as possible

for

themselves (i.e.-take responsibility for their own health-what a

revolutionary

concept. In all likelihood, this lack of self-responsibility is why

they got

into the mess they're in with their health to begin with!), they

probably

won't get better at least not in any timely fashion. Fighting cancer

AND

winning is a 24/7/365 proposal-not an undertaking for the weak who would

run to

their local MEDICAL provider looking for a quick cure in the form of a

little

white pill they can take home knowing that all they have to do is what

the doc

said and everything well be just hunky. It doesn't work like this. Self

responsibility and proactivism is ALL that ever can heal cancer with

maybe a

little help from a healthcare provider and a LOT OF SELF-EDUCATION!

Don't you think I know this? I do, and I educate my clients very well.

I

have been doing this for a long time. Again, I don't know what this is

all

about, and why you are attacking. I was not attacking you, I was just

trying

to clarify things for people.

You wrote:

<< " I admire you for what sounds like you have been somewhat able to

break

away from the " allopathic " nightmare, I encourage you to pursue more

and more

alternative education. Your patients will fare better in the long run. "

>>

Again, I am offended, and how dare you say that? You know nothing

about me.

You wrote:

<< " Thanks again for your input and, I'll get off my soapbox now. No

offense Barb-- I'm always a little defensive re: medical people. They

usually think

they have all the answers when generally they don't even have a concept

of

what the question is. It sounds like you are on your way to at least

understanding what the question is (being able to help people understand

alternative

thinking re: disease). Keep up the good work!! Take care. Sincerely,

" >>

You know, I am a little defensive re: people with no medical background

who

think they know everything about the workings of the human body.

Nonetheless, I do not attack them, and I was not attacking you. I was

merely trying to

let people know about that book.

Peace,

Barb

RN, Health and Wellness Consultant

*************************************

Energy technology products, help for sleep & discomfort

Energized air treatment, w/ 5 filtering technologies

Energized Water to oxygenate & alkalize, w/ coral calcium

Packaged organic whole foods that are non-GMO and macrobiotic

Natural whole food dietary supplements

Weighted exercise shoes - increase metabolism, burn calories, tone

Rife technology, rebounders, Transfer Factor Plus

whole colostrum, cesium, T-Plus Aloe (pp. 429-231 in " Politics in

Healing " )

Natural & non chemical makeup, shampoo, cleansers

**************************************

[Guest guest]

Hello Barb,

I owe you an apology. I didn't mean to offend you. I lost someone very

close to me in a medical setting and I think I still have some grieving to do to

get over that. I didn't mean to take that out on you. I'm very sorry. Please

forgive me. You sound like an extremely hard-working caring person. That feeling

comes right thru in your emails. I have been experiencing an incredible amount

of resentment and anger lately and I think that I need to address that more

directly now that I am able to even recognize it. Please bear with me as I find

this forum very loving and caring and giving--just what the doctor ordered!

Thank you Barb for taking time out of your long day to contribute knowledge to

this situation. I look forward to reading your contributions in the future. Take

care,

[ ] To

Hi ,

First of all, this is not about me. I did not respond for that purpose. I

responded to your post, in an effort to educate people on this list, and let

them know that the book is misleading.

I wrote:

<< " The reason I say this, is that I get calls from very many people who

have read the book, and followed the instructions, and have problems, and

need help. Most are devastated that they are not cured in 30 days. " >>

I think perhaps,there was some miscommunication here. First of all, the

people who call me for help after failing Barefoot's 30 day system, are

people

who call me afterwards. These are not people with whom I have previously

worked, and they are not my clients when they first call. They are calling

me

for help.

You wrote:

<< " And, I also employ several other modalities to treat my cancer such as

a macrobiotic diet in combination with Dr. Budwig's flax oil regimen. I also

exercise regularly,use wheatgrass when I can and avoid all chemicals and

stress as much as possible. " >>

I also use many, other modalities, including all of those you listed above,

and many, many more. I work with people individually, and I work out

programs for each.

You wrote:

<< " I am not medically certified (I wouldn't want to spend my hard-earned

$$$ and time learning a trade that doesn't teach anything about how to heal

disease), ... " >>

Boy, that is a little offensive. First of all, it is not a trade. You

might think differently, if someone close to you winds up in an ICU, and you

are

depending upon those nurse to save a life. Although I utilize alternative

and complementary means, now, it is still offensive to me, to hear things

like

that being said about people who work extemely hard, for little pay, and are

treated badly, and who go into nursing because of a love of helping people.

I sure hope that with that attitude, you do not wind up in the hospital any

time soon. This kind of thinking is the reason there is a nursing shortage,

and the reason there are not enough nurses to take care of people in the

hospital. One of these days, really bad things are going to happen because

there

are not enough nurses, and then people are going to think twice about they

way they have treated nurses.

You wrote:

<< " ...but common sense tells me that cancer is fought with every thought,

action, and bite of food we put in our mouth. Maybe your patients that are

not healing in a sufficiently expedient way need more understanding of this. "

>>

I don't know who you are to pass judgement on me and the way I deal with my

clients, and I don't need to prove anything, but believe me, I educate my

clients very well. I spent 6 hours on the phone today with one couple, and

they are calling back tonight.I cover every aspect of their diets and

lifestyles.

[Guest guest]

Tom....

Thanks for your support. I don't find anything objectionable in what Barb

said. The only thing I don't understand is how misunderstandings happen so

easily. I know that my reaction to questions re: The Calcium Factor may have

been out of proportion to the questions raised but, to tell you the truth, I was

quite surprised by those questions in this setting. I thought this was a

situation dealing with sharing our experiences (alternative as they may be) re:

cancer and unless someone has personally tried a treatment how would they know

it's effect? Barb's situation is different than mine. She worked with patients,

whereas I worked with customers (in the healthfood setting). So, I can

understand how she has formed her cautious approach re: what her patients have

shared with her. I think these different approaches will be what I want to learn

to embrace on this forum as I think it has so much to offer. I really don't mind

conflict--it can produce learning and growing. That's what I want. I hope

everyone on this forum always critiques my posts.....that way, I can re-group

and improve my reactions so that I am open instead of defensive....then, and

only then will I be able to learn!! Thank you Tom for being there....take care,

[ ] To

.

I am sorry that you had to go through that personal attack from

bjohnson.

I agree with you that it is a trade and one filled with uncaring

people who by the way are not under paid. I have ended up in the

emergency room and intensive care it is because of these experiences

that I have these feelings. My son was almost killed last year by an

uncaring intensive care nurse.

With this said, there are plenty of caring medical professionals. We

had one doctor that saved my sons life twice in one hospital visit.

Both times it was from mistakes made by other medical professionals

at the hospital

.

Any way after that personal attack I thought you might need a laugh.

Here is a link a friend sent me. These videos made me fall out of my

chair laughing.

http://www.my-funny-stuff.com/accident/index.htm

Tom

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

Yeah some of us can get into a bit of a " Hulk " state (Although we don't turn

green..........At least I don't think we do. Lol)

They say over here that people with red hair are more likely to " Fly off the

handle " as we put it.

It takes a lot to make me angry but when I do..................... Lol

Take care,

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue

I'm ish too and I've got red hair!!! I would like to think

that I'm sweetness and light though I don't think my family would

agree!

JakieD

> Hi ,

>

> This message really doesn't have anything to do with PA, but you

are

> the first person I have met that is ish. My ancestors were

> ish and everyone in my family said that you never seen

anything

> until you've seen the ish temper; well my family I guess is

> notorious for it and I found on the internet when I was doing my

> family tree another cousin that lives in California and he is

known

> for his ish temper also!! My husband always says " whew

wee!!! "

> when I get angry!! Just wondering. I love reading your messages-

you

> and Fran always get me to laugh-I still haven't gotten over Fran's

> story about the " store riders " -I always think of that when I need

a

> good laugh.

>

> God Bless, Sue.

[Guest guest]

---

Hi ,

Thanks for the reply-you are so funny and really uplifting for this

support group. Sometimes I get so down that I feel like I am

bringing every else down with me.

God Bless, Sue.

In , martincoyless@a... wrote:

> Hi Sue,

>

> Yeah some of us can get into a bit of a " Hulk " state (Although we

don't turn

> green..........At least I don't think we do. Lol)

>

> They say over here that people with red hair are more likely

to " Fly off the

> handle " as we put it.

> It takes a lot to make me angry but when I do.....................

Lol

>

> Take care,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, as a fellow redhead I know what you mean. I have a " flash in the

pan " temper. It takes a lot to make me really angry and then I flare white

hot but I don't usually stay angry long. I burn out quickly. You always

tickle me. Later, Cheri

----- Original Message ----- >

> They say over here that people with red hair are more likely to " Fly off

> the

> handle " as we put it.

> It takes a lot to make me angry but when I do..................... Lol

>

> Take care,

>

>

[Guest guest]

---

Hey Jakie,

Sorry I didn't realize you were from Scotland also. You are a very

nice person also and an asset to this group. Thanks so much for the

reply.

God Bless, Sue.

In , " jakie_d " <jakie_d@y...> wrote:

> Hi Sue

>

> I'm ish too and I've got red hair!!! I would like to think

> that I'm sweetness and light though I don't think my family would

> agree!

>

> JakieD

>

>

>

>

> > Hi ,

> >

> > This message really doesn't have anything to do with PA, but you

> are

> > the first person I have met that is ish. My ancestors were

> > ish and everyone in my family said that you never seen

> anything

> > until you've seen the ish temper; well my family I guess is

> > notorious for it and I found on the internet when I was doing my

> > family tree another cousin that lives in California and he is

> known

> > for his ish temper also!! My husband always says " whew

> wee!!! "

> > when I get angry!! Just wondering. I love reading your messages-

> you

> > and Fran always get me to laugh-I still haven't gotten over

Fran's

> > story about the " store riders " -I always think of that when I need

> a

> > good laugh.

> >

> > God Bless, Sue.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jakie,

Yeah, my wife and daughter both have red hair. They have their moments. Lol

Take care,

[Guest guest]

, as a fellow redhead I know what you mean. I have a " flash in the

pan " temper. It takes a lot to make me really angry and then I flare white

hot but I don't usually stay angry long. I burn out quickly. You always

tickle me. Later, Cheri

Hi Cheri,

Sorry for giving you the wrong impression but my hair is

black...........................ok ok it was black, it is now going gray! Lol

My wife and

daughter have red hair but so I still know what I am talking about. Lol

PS: I told you not to tell anyone about the tickling! Lol

[Guest guest]

I think I've had to much coffee this morning LOL I kept sending a reply with

nothing in it.

,

I'm glad you have had no ill effects. Many don't and I am happy for them.

Don't run off if people react badly to your posts here, most have been

damaged or had family damaged by SSRI drugs.

I hope you stay and keep learning. There are safer ways to deal with

depression and the drugs are a huge social experiment that we will not know

the full ramifications of for a while.

Just try to understand that people on this list have dead relatives,

permanent brain damage or destroyed or vastly reduced lives from these

drugs, and when

considering that I hope you can have some patience and continue to pick

through the posts and learn something for yourself.

The drugs are a solution to many. I don't knock the person but I do knock

the manufactures and sales people and doctors who promote the drugs. There

are so many real reasons that you could be feeling down.

www.alternativementalhealth.com has some good reading if your interested.

I am glad you came to learn and I for one do not want you to go.

Best,

Jim

Hi folks. I am here only drawing my attention to the " Daddy's little

helper " comment in the subject box. Of courseit reminds me of the " Mother's

little helper " from Rolling Stones R+R lore.

I entered this forum for educative reasons due to my being on Wellbutrin for

two years. I am not saying everyone should take it. Obviously not. But it

has in fact helped me and the last thing I need is the slight insult.

Have a great night all...

[Guest guest]

I think I've had to much coffee this morning LOL I kept sending a reply with

nothing in it.

,

I'm glad you have had no ill effects. Many don't and I am happy for them.

Don't run off if people react badly to your posts here, most have been

damaged or had family damaged by SSRI drugs.

I hope you stay and keep learning. There are safer ways to deal with

depression and the drugs are a huge social experiment that we will not know

the full ramifications of for a while.

Just try to understand that people on this list have dead relatives,

permanent brain damage or destroyed or vastly reduced lives from these

drugs, and when

considering that I hope you can have some patience and continue to pick

through the posts and learn something for yourself.

The drugs are a solution to many. I don't knock the person but I do knock

the manufactures and sales people and doctors who promote the drugs. There

are so many real reasons that you could be feeling down.

www.alternativementalhealth.com has some good reading if your interested.

I am glad you came to learn and I for one do not want you to go.

Best,

Jim

Hi folks. I am here only drawing my attention to the " Daddy's little

helper " comment in the subject box. Of courseit reminds me of the " Mother's

little helper " from Rolling Stones R+R lore.

I entered this forum for educative reasons due to my being on Wellbutrin for

two years. I am not saying everyone should take it. Obviously not. But it

has in fact helped me and the last thing I need is the slight insult.

Have a great night all...

[Guest guest]

Elaine,

Yes, thanks. I have an appointment with a Lyme doctor in NJ on the 26th of

this month. The doctor was strongly recommended to me by a member of this

group.

Any recommendations on how I should prepare for the first visit. I have my

questions printed out along with a copy of my medical records. I'm going to

send them to the doctor's office early next week. My wife will be joining

me on the visit so we can cover all of our basis. Any other

recommendations?

I'm hoping she will be able immediately start me on a more aggressive

treatment that day. But we will see.

Thanks for your response.

Be well.

[ ] To

- you wrote: .should I push my doctor to give me a referral to a Lyme

doctor or see one of the doctors that were recommended to me?

My STRONG recommendation is to see a Lyme doc. I don't know where you live

but we live in Oregon and docs (even ID's!!) absolutely won't acknowledge

Lyme. They claim we don't have it here but the CDC recognizes that we

do-plus, our circle of Lyme people is growing. You probably have had it a

year or more and a quick 4 weeks of AB's won't take care of it. Get to one

of the Lyme literate docs recommended. It took us 14 mos to get treatment

for my adult daughter-very frustrating. Hope this little vote for

aggressive treatment helps you weigh your options. Elaine

[Guest guest]

,

Before my first visit I had printed out from (somewhere) online a long list

of possible lyme symptoms that I had checked off ahead of time. It helped

me fill out his questionaire and alerted me to things I never would have

thought to mention such as nausea and major bladder issues. I've never been

able to find that comprehensive list again, but maybe you have one. My

first visit was about 2 hours. I've never had a doctor spend that much time

with me! It's good that your wife is going because I was so overwhelmed I

think I forgot at least half of what he told me!

Beth

RE: [ ] To

Elaine,

Yes, thanks. I have an appointment with a Lyme doctor in NJ on the 26th

of

this month. The doctor was strongly recommended to me by a member of this

group.

Any recommendations on how I should prepare for the first visit. I have

my

questions printed out along with a copy of my medical records. I'm going

to

send them to the doctor's office early next week. My wife will be joining

me on the visit so we can cover all of our basis. Any other

recommendations?

I'm hoping she will be able immediately start me on a more aggressive

treatment that day. But we will see.

Thanks for your response.

Be well.

[Guest guest]

Beth,

For a comprehensive symptom list I worked off of Dr. B.'s list,

http://www.igenex.com/burrascano_1102.htm. It lists 38 Lyme symptoms. I

put the ones I have into a document that I will give the doctor.

Thanks for your response.

Be well!

RE: [ ] To

Elaine,

Yes, thanks. I have an appointment with a Lyme doctor in NJ on the 26th

of

this month. The doctor was strongly recommended to me by a member of this

group.

Any recommendations on how I should prepare for the first visit. I have

my

questions printed out along with a copy of my medical records. I'm going

to

send them to the doctor's office early next week. My wife will be joining

me on the visit so we can cover all of our basis. Any other

recommendations?

I'm hoping she will be able immediately start me on a more aggressive

treatment that day. But we will see.

Thanks for your response.

Be well.