Re: calcium/magnesium/potassium EAP

[Guest guest]

The Camp (my word) has some punch. I don't know how much more

effective the IV version would be. Since I'm needle phobic, I may

never know. If I see some more improvement, I might be able to let

myself get dragged to a doctor for it! Otherwise, it's the German

formula of oral cal/mag/pot EAP that I use. Koehler makes it.

>

> The EAP is interesting stuff. I took the intravenous EAP for a little

> over a year. I met one of my EAP physicians former nurses who taught

> patients how to do the injections. She saw many, but not all, of the

> patients on the IV get better.

>

>

[Guest guest]

The board certified physician who guided me down my EAP path has MS

himself, was in a wheel chair, went to Germany to be a patient of Dr.

Hans Nieper. Now my physician can walks a couple of miles and is back

to working and started his own practice.

I was taking 20mLs of the IV form 3 times per week, and 5+ capsules of

the oral EAP per day.

My EAP doc has veins that look like pieces of twine stuck on his arm.

For him, the needle was not a bi deal. For me, the needles are a

small challenge, but was easily doable for the year I took the stuff.

The needles are tiny and smooth. I've had many jagged splinters in my

much larger than the needles. I used butterfly needles which are the

type of needles used for IVs. Just pretend the veins are worms in our

arms. The needle punches through the skin and down the center of the

" worm " .

For me, I began to have slightly more energy at about the 4 or 5 month

point. At the 5 or 6 month point my right hand quit working! That is

when I really drove my quest for a Lyme Literate Medical Doctor (LLMD).

The EAP world is a strange place and takes some getting used to. Glad

I did it and glad I moved to Lyme.

> >

> > The EAP is interesting stuff. I took the intravenous EAP for a little

> > over a year. I met one of my EAP physicians former nurses who taught

> > patients how to do the injections. She saw many, but not all, of the

> > patients on the IV get better.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Today is my 13th day off of the CAMP EAP. I feel worse than I did

before I started taking it. My back hurts, my legs hurt, my feet

sting, my hands are numb, I can't stand as long and I have to shift

my sitting position a lot. I hope this means that I need those

minerals. I should get a new order within the week. I feel like a

drug addict! All I can think about is Mynax! I'll keep you informed

during round II.

>

> I'm having amazing success with oral calcium/magnesium/potassium

EAP

> by Mynax. It's a 3 week on 3 week off protocol and I'm in the

middle

> of my second week off. I'm ing for it! I can stand

straighter

> and longer when I take it. I've only used it for three weeks. My

> feet don't buzz either. Calcium EAP alone doesn't provide the same

> benefits for me. It might be because calcium and magnesium are

> symbiotic.

>

>

>

>3qn9

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was just sitting here googling Mynax for outlets here in Spain. I think

I'll back off and wait to see how it goes with you.

At least you can feel your back, legs and feet!

If you get desperate, is it cheating to try plain calcium, potassium and

magnesium? They might fill a gap.

Janet

----- Original Message -----

From: Pugh

Today is my 13th day off of the CAMP EAP. I feel worse than I did

before I started taking it. My back hurts, my legs hurt, my feet

sting, my hands are numb, I can't stand as long and I have to shift

my sitting position a lot. I hope this means that I need those

minerals. I should get a new order within the week. I feel like a

drug addict! All I can think about is Mynax! I'll keep you informed

during round II.

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet. I feel a little better since I wrote the last post, but

not great! I suppose that taking plain cal/mag/potassium might fill

a gap, but I want to follow the Neiper protocol and skip three weeks

and start again so that my body is stabilized by the new infusion of

minerals.

I tried to take a cal/mag/zinc supplement at one time and it made me

stiff. The EAP doesn't do that. In fact it does the opposite. I may

cheat by a few days when the new shipment arrives. I feel so much

better on the stuff that it would be hard to deny myself!

I'm hoping that the CAMP EAP has longterm effects eventually

(according to the information provided by Mynax, it's supposed to).

I could not feel my feet in the past, except for the freezer burn

sensation. My back used to hurt all the time. I might be retracing,

going backwards towards good health!

>

> Hi ,

> I was just sitting here googling Mynax for outlets here in Spain.

I think

> I'll back off and wait to see how it goes with you.

> At least you can feel your back, legs and feet!

>

> If you get desperate, is it cheating to try plain calcium,

potassium and

> magnesium? They might fill a gap.

>

> Janet

[Guest guest]

I hope not, but since I took it I have to take it again to maintain the

results. It's a mineral suplement, so I'm not expecting to need it

forever. It seems that at some point, I will be saturated with

calcium, magnesium and potassium. The standard protocol was with

calcium EAP. It could be that I need mag. or potassium. I don't really

know why this is making me feel better, but it is!

>

> : I hope for the best for you, but my understanding is that

you

> have to stay on the EAP protocol for the rest of your life in order to

> maintain your health. This was one of the reasons we did not pursue

the

> IV Calcium EAP protocol. Maybe your stuff is not like that.

>

> Tom Nesler

>feel

[Guest guest]

I won't be injecting myself with anything! I've been reading about

Nieper a lot and it seems that he had different protocols for

different people depending on the reason(s) he thought they had MS.

The CAMP EAP is better than any supplement that I have ever taken for

relief of symptoms (besides Modifilan and Serrapeptase, both taken

for specific issues). Nieper also patented 2-AEP, a mineral transport

fascilitator. I have not tried that.

I don't mind taking a mineral supplement indefinitely, shots are a

different story. Amazingly (not really), he recommended a diet free

of food additives (poisons). He was also cautious about electrical

fields. My personal electrical field is way off.

I would be happy to know that my myelin is repairing!

>

> The way I understood that it works is that it actually repairs the

> myelin sheath by providing the missing minerals that the damaged

Myelin

> needs. However, the repairs are temporary requiring a constant

supply

> much like a person needs to constantly plaster cracks in the

ceiling of

> a house.

>

> I apologize for not being able to locate the source of my

recollections

> because all this was discovered some 9 years ago. Considering that

they

> are minerals, remaining on them is not as bad as remaining on a

normal

> drug.

>

> Just my 2 cents...:-)

>

> Tom Nesler

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am very interested to hear how you get on with it as I know you believe

more in natural diet than in supplements so they must be good to get you

hooked.

I have tried countless supplements and had good results to start with then

they tail off after a week or two, presumably when my body has had enough of

whatever it was missing.

Here's hoping you've found a missing link.

All the best

Janet

----- Original Message -----

From: Pugh

Hi Janet. I feel a little better since I wrote the last post, but

not great! I suppose that taking plain cal/mag/potassium might fill

a gap, but I want to follow the Neiper protocol and skip three weeks

and start again so that my body is stabilized by the new infusion of

minerals.

[Guest guest]

The Brewer Library and Dr. Nieper (from what I read) felt stronly

that the IV form is needed for signficant results. Nevertheless, if

someone is feeling improvement from the oral form alone, as

is, then I think it makes sense to continue with that.

Personally, I have always been intrigued by Dr. Nieper's IV protocol

and have talked to several people who it helped a lot, including one

woman whose presentation was very similar to mine (sudden onset and

no remission for a couple years). That woman is in 95% remission now.

I wish Dr. Nieper was still alive. I understood he was a very caring

man who was set up in Germany to really help patients and their

caregivers learn the protocol over several days--and he would meet

his patients each day individually and in groups. He would even

install ports, if needed (despite what it says on line, I was

personally told by one of his patients who went to Germany that he

offered that to her). That woman is in 100% remission for 15 or 20

years or so.

My biggest deterrent on the IV EAP is that I have TERRIBLE veins.

Nurses and phlebotimists consistently have trouble drawing my blood

for routine blood tests. I also have an issue of not having anyone

available to consistently give me the injections...I still haven't

ruled it out though for the future. I think I would have to go the

route of getting a port installed and injecting it myself through the

port.

My biggest

> >

> > The EAP is interesting stuff. I took the intravenous EAP for a

little

> > over a year. I met one of my EAP physicians former nurses who

taught

> > patients how to do the injections. She saw many, but not all, of

the

> > patients on the IV get better.

> >

> >

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