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Sue,

My friend's daughter died and the husband cut off the right for my friend and

her husband to keep seeing their 2 grandchildren. (He did this probably feeling

guilty that he very quickly took on a live-in after their mom died).

In any case, the grandparents took him to court and now have WEEKLY visiting

rights and have their grandchildren each Sunday, all day. They are thrilled,

the grandkids (ages 6 and 3) are delighted and all worked out well.

Don't give up grandparents " rights " without a fight!

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The problem is that they live quite a distance away. We saw the kids

when we went to visit my son, or when he came to visit us. We did the

visiting with each other on the weekends when he had the kids. Since

he's not allowed any contact with them for the time being, that can't

happen. It is a very hurtful situation.

Sue

On Aug 8, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Joy Penn wrote:

> Sue,

> My friend's daughter died and the husband cut off the right for my

> friend and her husband to keep seeing their 2 grandchildren. (He

> did this probably feeling guilty that he very quickly took on a live-

> in after their mom died).

>

> In any case, the grandparents took him to court and now have WEEKLY

> visiting rights and have their grandchildren each Sunday, all day.

> They are thrilled, the grandkids (ages 6 and 3) are delighted and

> all worked out well.

>

> Don't give up grandparents " rights " without a fight!

>

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Hi Sue: I feel very sorry for what you and your family are going

through right now. Your letter brought up some very painful times I

have gone through.

My son married a girl who he thought he knew. She is a devious person.

She failed to tell him she had spent a lot of time committed in a mental

hosp. and that she is Manic Depressive, has Skitzoprenia, paranoia, a

habitual liar, and a vicious manner. She stopped her birth control

pills to get pregnant, and didn't tell him until she got pregnant. This

is when she told him about all her mental illnesses. Needless to say,

things got really bad, and when the baby was 6 months old, my son had

had it. She broke him financially, emotionally, every way she could.

She told the worst lie a wife could say about her husband., about their

baby. It was proven she lied, but the damage was done. The court gave

her custody of my granddaughter, which was the first error the court

committed. The second error was to never monitor her while on the

Psysch. meds. she always stopped. The only thing my son asked the court

was to monitor her while on these drugs, and that I could see my

granddaughter. Of course they said no. The last time I sw her and held

her, was 15 years ago. Her mother refuses to let me see her, has told

her horrific things about my son, me and the entire family. The whole

thing has broken my heart. My father, my granddaughter and me are all

only children. She has no one. I got a call yesterday from the

Childrens court up north, that my granddaughter is in foster care, her

mother committed again for the umteenth time. Now the family court

realizes the errors of their way. It took them 15 years!!

That court would not see me, nor honor my petition to see my little

granddaughter. Her so called mother has filled that poor childs head

with lies, more lies, she is a very vicious, hateful person. Each time

she has been committed, and there have been many, they let her out, and

give her full custody of my granddaughter, knowing fully she needs to be

committed for life. They are calling me tomorrow a.m. I will see what

they have to say. My son is done with all that insanity. He will not

talk with them anymore. Each time when he thinks he will have her, they

change their mind, let that bitch out of the mental hosp. and it starts

all over again. He can't take it anymore. I have prayed each night

that I live long enough so I can see her on her 18th birthday, and spend

some time with her. I have sent letters to her through the social

worker, and she has the choice to open them or not. Last time I spoke

with them, they were in the process of testing her to see if she has

that disease. This should never have happened. The court failed my

granddaughter and her family. She has so many cousins, etc., aunt, and

a loving grandmother. All this mattered not to that kangaroo court. My

little granddaughter needs stabilty in her life, and a loving family who

want her in their lives. They are all just waiting for me to bring her

home to them. Do you know how lonely an only child feels at times, and

not let her know she has a huge wonderful family she can have in her

life.

I so hope you get to see your grandchildren. Some custodial parents are

hateful, controlling, vindictive, and use their children for their own

sick ways. They don't care about their feelings, just use them as a

pawn to get back at their former spouse and use the child as a weapon.

It is so horrific. I will pray you get to see them soon. All children

need and deserve to have a loving family who care about them and who

they can see. Children are children, not something that a person owns,

and they have no right to do this to them. I can only imagine what my

granddaughter has been through. I hope that bitch rots in a mental

hosp. for the rest of her life. I have cried many, many times about the

loss of my granddaughter. She is alone and needs her loving family

around her. The damage her so called mother has done to her is

unforgiveable. The way I see it, the court up there cares not about

children. I called over 20 lawyers up there to help me get to see her,

and you know what, the minute they heard her name, no one wanted

anything to do with this case. I kid you not. She is that insane.

Just file some papers on your own, for grandparents rights to see your

grandchildren. It is called, Pro Se, and you file them on your own,

with the fee for filing. I did this and they refused my petition, and

sent my check back. I called my cousin who is a Judge in Mass. and he

said " That would never happen here, and you would have visitation

rights " .. Not so in another state.

I will pray for you and your son and family. It is the worst thing to

go through. Never give up. They put you through hell. My health was

very critical at that time, and my doctor said enough Barbara. I

thought I was going to die, so I had to let it go. All my life I have

loved children and loved being with them. I could not wait for

grandchildren. Who would have thought that all this insanity would ever

happen. I have pined for her all these years. It has been torture.

Wishing you good days ahead when you have your grandchildren back in

your loving arms.. I care....

Hugs,

Barbara

>

> > Sue,

> > My friend's daughter died and the husband cut off the right for my

> > friend and her husband to keep seeing their 2 grandchildren. (He

> > did this probably feeling guilty that he very quickly took on a

live-

> > in after their mom died).

> >

> > In any case, the grandparents took him to court and now have WEEKLY

> > visiting rights and have their grandchildren each Sunday, all day.

> > They are thrilled, the grandkids (ages 6 and 3) are delighted and

> > all worked out well.

> >

> > Don't give up grandparents " rights " without a fight!

> >

>

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From: Barbara <bcreedon@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Grandparents' Rights

Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 6:58 PM

 

Hi Sue: I feel very sorry for what you and your family are going

through right now. Your letter brought up some very painful times I

have gone through.

My son married a girl who he thought he knew. She is a devious person.

She failed to tell him she had spent a lot of time committed in a mental

hosp. and that she is Manic Depressive, has Skitzoprenia, paranoia, a

habitual liar, and a vicious manner. She stopped her birth control

pills to get pregnant, and didn't tell him until she got pregnant. This

is when she told him about all her mental illnesses. Needless to say,

things got really bad, and when the baby was 6 months old, my son had

had it. She broke him financially, emotionally, every way she could.

She told the worst lie a wife could say about her husband., about their

baby. It was proven she lied, but the damage was done. The court gave

her custody of my granddaughter, which was the first error the court

committed. The second error was to never monitor her while on the

Psysch. meds. she always stopped. The only thing my son asked the court

was to monitor her while on these drugs, and that I could see my

granddaughter. Of course they said no. The last time I sw her and held

her, was 15 years ago. Her mother refuses to let me see her, has told

her horrific things about my son, me and the entire family. The whole

thing has broken my heart. My father, my granddaughter and me are all

only children. She has no one. I got a call yesterday from the

Childrens court up north, that my granddaughter is in foster care, her

mother committed again for the umteenth time. Now the family court

realizes the errors of their way. It took them 15 years!!

That court would not see me, nor honor my petition to see my little

granddaughter. Her so called mother has filled that poor childs head

with lies, more lies, she is a very vicious, hateful person. Each time

she has been committed, and there have been many, they let her out, and

give her full custody of my granddaughter, knowing fully she needs to be

committed for life. They are calling me tomorrow a.m. I will see what

they have to say. My son is done with all that insanity. He will not

talk with them anymore. Each time when he thinks he will have her, they

change their mind, let that bitch out of the mental hosp. and it starts

all over again. He can't take it anymore. I have prayed each night

that I live long enough so I can see her on her 18th birthday, and spend

some time with her. I have sent letters to her through the social

worker, and she has the choice to open them or not. Last time I spoke

with them, they were in the process of testing her to see if she has

that disease. This should never have happened. The court failed my

granddaughter and her family. She has so many cousins, etc., aunt, and

a loving grandmother. All this mattered not to that kangaroo court. My

little granddaughter needs stabilty in her life, and a loving family who

want her in their lives. They are all just waiting for me to bring her

home to them. Do you know how lonely an only child feels at times, and

not let her know she has a huge wonderful family she can have in her

life.

I so hope you get to see your grandchildren. Some custodial parents are

hateful, controlling, vindictive, and use their children for their own

sick ways. They don't care about their feelings, just use them as a

pawn to get back at their former spouse and use the child as a weapon.

It is so horrific. I will pray you get to see them soon. All children

need and deserve to have a loving family who care about them and who

they can see. Children are children, not something that a person owns,

and they have no right to do this to them. I can only imagine what my

granddaughter has been through. I hope that bitch rots in a mental

hosp. for the rest of her life. I have cried many, many times about the

loss of my granddaughter. She is alone and needs her loving family

around her. The damage her so called mother has done to her is

unforgiveable. The way I see it, the court up there cares not about

children. I called over 20 lawyers up there to help me get to see her,

and you know what, the minute they heard her name, no one wanted

anything to do with this case. I kid you not. She is that insane.

Just file some papers on your own, for grandparents rights to see your

grandchildren. It is called, Pro Se, and you file them on your own,

with the fee for filing. I did this and they refused my petition, and

sent my check back. I called my cousin who is a Judge in Mass. and he

said " That would never happen here, and you would have visitation

rights " .. Not so in another state.

I will pray for you and your son and family. It is the worst thing to

go through. Never give up. They put you through hell. My health was

very critical at that time, and my doctor said enough Barbara. I

thought I was going to die, so I had to let it go. All my life I have

loved children and loved being with them. I could not wait for

grandchildren. Who would have thought that all this insanity would ever

happen. I have pined for her all these years. It has been torture.

Wishing you good days ahead when you have your grandchildren back in

your loving arms.. I care....

Hugs,

Barbara

>

> > Sue,

> > My friend's daughter died and the husband cut off the right for my

> > friend and her husband to keep seeing their 2 grandchildren. (He

> > did this probably feeling guilty that he very quickly took on a

live-

> > in after their mom died).

> >

> > In any case, the grandparents took him to court and now have WEEKLY

> > visiting rights and have their grandchildren each Sunday, all day.

> > They are thrilled, the grandkids (ages 6 and 3) are delighted and

> > all worked out well.

> >

> > Don't give up grandparents " rights " without a fight!

> >

>

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