Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 We live in Houston Texas. This virus is getting a little to close for me. I wonder if the flu strain is a bad as they are hyping or Mexico is just getting hit so hard with deaths because of the lack of medical care and country sanitation. mom of ,5 CVID > > , > > We live in the Roseville area. Where are you? > > Jeane > > > > > -- In , s <momtoboywholoveshisgoats@> wrote: > > > > hi mary jeane > > may i ask where you live? > > > > I live about an hr .from the sc school that took the trip to mexico & came back sick. > > My son Blake has SCID with complete T-Cell Dysfunction > > > > I got worried the other day when a fella friend of ours was sick with a " Flu like " illness. he is really good frinds of ours...they are saying he may very well have had the swine flu.....he had all the symptoms > > Maybe we can chat back & forth. > > > > Mom to Blake > > http://www.caringbridg.org/sc/blakester > > > > > > > > " Children are like butterflies in the wind. > > Some fly higher than others, BUT > > each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Also, I wonder if this virus can be spread by the SCIG/IVIG transfusions? > > , > > We live in the Roseville area. Where are you? > > Jeane > > > > > -- In , s <momtoboywholoveshisgoats@> wrote: > > > > hi mary jeane > > may i ask where you live? > > > > I live about an hr .from the sc school that took the trip to mexico & came back sick. > > My son Blake has SCID with complete T-Cell Dysfunction > > > > I got worried the other day when a fella friend of ours was sick with a " Flu like " illness. he is really good frinds of ours...they are saying he may very well have had the swine flu.....he had all the symptoms > > Maybe we can chat back & forth. > > > > Mom to Blake > > http://www.caringbridg.org/sc/blakester > > > > > > > > " Children are like butterflies in the wind. > > Some fly higher than others, BUT > > each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 , Just saw on the news that the Headmaster at the private school has just reported that one of his students is positive for swine flu the the other 12 students tested negative???? they all have the same symptoms but only one tested positive, actually 2 are positive the other is the boyfriend of the student but he does not attend that school. We are only 1 hour away as well. Misty > > > From: mjd452001 <maryjeanedavis@...> > Subject: Swine Flu > > Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 11:53 PM > > > > > > > > > I am a lurker also...our daughter andra,13- developmentally about 5 (who has PID as a component of the syndrome she has) has been on IVIG for about 4 1/2 years now. Since she started it, she has been amazingly healthy, thus I haven't spend much time on lists but the swine flu that seems to be making it way into many places around the world especially California has me a little worried. They just closed a school close to us due to an outbreak among the students (private school that took a trip to Mexico during spring break). I am wondering if there are any precautions that would be advisable. is homeschooled, so that of course excludes a huge worry but she does go to group therapy once three times a week. Am I over-reacting to keep her home from these things??? or other group things such as church etc. > > Thanks, > > Jeane > Mom to andra, FG syndrome (and 5 others) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 > > Dear Bee, > > In your opinion is there any truth to the following explanation of the body's response to this/any virus? > > " What's counterintuitive with this particular virus, it's in the people who have robust immune systems. As their body starts to respond, to try and fight off that virus, they produce tons of inflammatory cells. Those inflammatory cells can sort of flood the lungs. > > " So, in essence, it's not the virus itself that's so problematic, but the body's reaction to it. " > (from: http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/28/swine.flu/index.html) +++Hi Racheal. First, your own body creates viruses, bacteria and candida to clean itself up, so it isn't possible to " catch them " from outside sources. People with robust immune systems won't need to create bugs in order to keep healthy, so that statement is totally false. But yes, when the body needs to create viruses or bacteria it results in many healing symptoms, including inflammation which is important for cleaning up the body. Our bodies have reasons for creating any healing symptoms, which is always for health purposes. See this article about it: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/germ12.php Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Jeane We live in Greenwood SC.....they just confirmed that Swine Flu is in Nweberry SC....this is the private school that came back from cancun Mexico, last week. " Children are like butterflies in the wind. Some fly higher than others, BUT each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > hi mary jeane > may i ask where you live? > > I live about an hr .from the sc school that took the trip to mexico & came back sick. > My son Blake has SCID with complete T-Cell Dysfunction > > I got worried the other day when a fella friend of ours was sick with a " Flu like " illness. he is really good frinds of ours...they are saying he may very well have had the swine flu.....he had all the symptoms > Maybe we can chat back & forth. > > Mom to Blake > http://www.caringbr idg.org/sc/ blakester > > > > " Children are like butterflies in the wind. > Some fly higher than others, BUT > each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Jeane We live in Greenwood SC.....they just confirmed that Swine Flu is in Nweberry SC....this is the private school that came back from cancun Mexico, last week. " Children are like butterflies in the wind. Some fly higher than others, BUT each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > hi mary jeane > may i ask where you live? > > I live about an hr .from the sc school that took the trip to mexico & came back sick. > My son Blake has SCID with complete T-Cell Dysfunction > > I got worried the other day when a fella friend of ours was sick with a " Flu like " illness. he is really good frinds of ours...they are saying he may very well have had the swine flu.....he had all the symptoms > Maybe we can chat back & forth. > > Mom to Blake > http://www.caringbr idg.org/sc/ blakester > > > > " Children are like butterflies in the wind. > Some fly higher than others, BUT > each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Misty I just found this out also. They said there are 2 confirmed cases in Newberry. One of our friends here in G'wood may also have the Flu.....I am really scared for Blake(SCID) because we travel through Newberry to get to Col. Blake is due in Columbia may 7th to see Dr. Garner for his ears. Then on May 14th he has na appt in Lexington...again go through newberry, then to columbia for 3 days for his IV Bone Medicine...we will be staying at the RMH at that time......arrrgggggg Mom to Blake Ps...can't wait to see the rest of your Littlestheroesproject.org Pics!!! " Children are like butterflies in the wind. Some fly higher than others, BUT each one flies the best they can!!!! " From: Misty <mistycmathis@...> Subject: Re: Swine Flu Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:49 AM , Just saw on the news that the Headmaster at the private school has just reported that one of his students is positive for swine flu the the other 12 students tested negative???? they all have the same symptoms but only one tested positive, actually 2 are positive the other is the boyfriend of the student but he does not attend that school. We are only 1 hour away as well. Misty > > > From: mjd452001 <maryjeanedavis@ ...> > Subject: Swine Flu > groups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 11:53 PM > > > > > > > > > I am a lurker also...our daughter andra,13- developmentally about 5 (who has PID as a component of the syndrome she has) has been on IVIG for about 4 1/2 years now. Since she started it, she has been amazingly healthy, thus I haven't spend much time on lists but the swine flu that seems to be making it way into many places around the world especially California has me a little worried. They just closed a school close to us due to an outbreak among the students (private school that took a trip to Mexico during spring break). I am wondering if there are any precautions that would be advisable. is homeschooled, so that of course excludes a huge worry but she does go to group therapy once three times a week. Am I over-reacting to keep her home from these things??? or other group things such as church etc. > > Thanks, > > Jeane > Mom to andra, FG syndrome (and 5 others) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Misty I just found this out also. They said there are 2 confirmed cases in Newberry. One of our friends here in G'wood may also have the Flu.....I am really scared for Blake(SCID) because we travel through Newberry to get to Col. Blake is due in Columbia may 7th to see Dr. Garner for his ears. Then on May 14th he has na appt in Lexington...again go through newberry, then to columbia for 3 days for his IV Bone Medicine...we will be staying at the RMH at that time......arrrgggggg Mom to Blake Ps...can't wait to see the rest of your Littlestheroesproject.org Pics!!! " Children are like butterflies in the wind. Some fly higher than others, BUT each one flies the best they can!!!! " From: Misty <mistycmathis@...> Subject: Re: Swine Flu Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:49 AM , Just saw on the news that the Headmaster at the private school has just reported that one of his students is positive for swine flu the the other 12 students tested negative???? they all have the same symptoms but only one tested positive, actually 2 are positive the other is the boyfriend of the student but he does not attend that school. We are only 1 hour away as well. Misty > > > From: mjd452001 <maryjeanedavis@ ...> > Subject: Swine Flu > groups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 11:53 PM > > > > > > > > > I am a lurker also...our daughter andra,13- developmentally about 5 (who has PID as a component of the syndrome she has) has been on IVIG for about 4 1/2 years now. Since she started it, she has been amazingly healthy, thus I haven't spend much time on lists but the swine flu that seems to be making it way into many places around the world especially California has me a little worried. They just closed a school close to us due to an outbreak among the students (private school that took a trip to Mexico during spring break). I am wondering if there are any precautions that would be advisable. is homeschooled, so that of course excludes a huge worry but she does go to group therapy once three times a week. Am I over-reacting to keep her home from these things??? or other group things such as church etc. > > Thanks, > > Jeane > Mom to andra, FG syndrome (and 5 others) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 - , Sorry, I guess it might be helpful if I put the state I live in. We are on the other coast in California. Roseville is just north of Sacramento about 15 miles or so. The school that was closed in our area is probably about 30 minutes from us. Jeane -- In , s <momtoboywholoveshisgoats@...> wrote: > > Jeane > We live in Greenwood SC.....they just confirmed that Swine Flu is in Nweberry SC....this is the private school that came back from cancun Mexico, last week. > > > > " Children are like butterflies in the wind. > Some fly higher than others, BUT > each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > > > > > hi mary jeane > > may i ask where you live? > > > > I live about an hr .from the sc school that took the trip to mexico & came back sick. > > My son Blake has SCID with complete T-Cell Dysfunction > > > > I got worried the other day when a fella friend of ours was sick with a " Flu like " illness. he is really good frinds of ours...they are saying he may very well have had the swine flu.....he had all the symptoms > > Maybe we can chat back & forth. > > > > Mom to Blake > > http://www.caringbr idg.org/sc/ blakester > > > > > > > > " Children are like butterflies in the wind. > > Some fly higher than others, BUT > > each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 - , Sorry, I guess it might be helpful if I put the state I live in. We are on the other coast in California. Roseville is just north of Sacramento about 15 miles or so. The school that was closed in our area is probably about 30 minutes from us. Jeane -- In , s <momtoboywholoveshisgoats@...> wrote: > > Jeane > We live in Greenwood SC.....they just confirmed that Swine Flu is in Nweberry SC....this is the private school that came back from cancun Mexico, last week. > > > > " Children are like butterflies in the wind. > Some fly higher than others, BUT > each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > > > > > hi mary jeane > > may i ask where you live? > > > > I live about an hr .from the sc school that took the trip to mexico & came back sick. > > My son Blake has SCID with complete T-Cell Dysfunction > > > > I got worried the other day when a fella friend of ours was sick with a " Flu like " illness. he is really good frinds of ours...they are saying he may very well have had the swine flu.....he had all the symptoms > > Maybe we can chat back & forth. > > > > Mom to Blake > > http://www.caringbr idg.org/sc/ blakester > > > > > > > > " Children are like butterflies in the wind. > > Some fly higher than others, BUT > > each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hey all. I am not in a swine flu " area " , but I know some of you have concern about our kids getting it. And someone asked what we all thought about it. I have to admit that it is scary to me. My daughter has Hyper Ige syndrome. She is only 22 months, so far, nothing too major has hit her yet. We just got out of a winter filled with lots of ear infections and some bronchiolitis. I have 3 kids in school that could bring lots of things home to her and I run an inhome daycare. So, I do have concerns, but here's the thing---these kids that we have are susceptible to anything. Typically, we don't even know when they have been exposed and we don't know there is anything going around, and bam--they get sick. At least we know that this is going around. We know that if our kids show any kind of symptoms, that we should take them in to be seen. Also, I think it would be good to consult with your child's doctor, and maybe they can make you feel better about it. The way that I am dealing with the scare, so far, is to trust in God. God has watched over my little girl to this point, and I trust He will continue to do so. That's not to say that she can't get this illness---it's just saying that if she does, God knows best, and I trust Him. So, prayerfully, you can all find comort in that. God bless you all. Roach, mother of Hannah Faith Roach, 22 months, hyper ige syndrome > > > > hi mary jeane > > may i ask where you live? > > > > I live about an hr .from the sc school that took the trip to mexico & came back sick. > > My son Blake has SCID with complete T-Cell Dysfunction > > > > I got worried the other day when a fella friend of ours was sick with a " Flu like " illness. he is really good frinds of ours...they are saying he may very well have had the swine flu.....he had all the symptoms > > Maybe we can chat back & forth. > > > > Mom to Blake > > http://www.caringbr idg.org/sc/ blakester > > > > > > > > " Children are like butterflies in the wind. > > Some fly higher than others, BUT > > each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hey all. I am not in a swine flu " area " , but I know some of you have concern about our kids getting it. And someone asked what we all thought about it. I have to admit that it is scary to me. My daughter has Hyper Ige syndrome. She is only 22 months, so far, nothing too major has hit her yet. We just got out of a winter filled with lots of ear infections and some bronchiolitis. I have 3 kids in school that could bring lots of things home to her and I run an inhome daycare. So, I do have concerns, but here's the thing---these kids that we have are susceptible to anything. Typically, we don't even know when they have been exposed and we don't know there is anything going around, and bam--they get sick. At least we know that this is going around. We know that if our kids show any kind of symptoms, that we should take them in to be seen. Also, I think it would be good to consult with your child's doctor, and maybe they can make you feel better about it. The way that I am dealing with the scare, so far, is to trust in God. God has watched over my little girl to this point, and I trust He will continue to do so. That's not to say that she can't get this illness---it's just saying that if she does, God knows best, and I trust Him. So, prayerfully, you can all find comort in that. God bless you all. Roach, mother of Hannah Faith Roach, 22 months, hyper ige syndrome > > > > hi mary jeane > > may i ask where you live? > > > > I live about an hr .from the sc school that took the trip to mexico & came back sick. > > My son Blake has SCID with complete T-Cell Dysfunction > > > > I got worried the other day when a fella friend of ours was sick with a " Flu like " illness. he is really good frinds of ours...they are saying he may very well have had the swine flu.....he had all the symptoms > > Maybe we can chat back & forth. > > > > Mom to Blake > > http://www.caringbr idg.org/sc/ blakester > > > > > > > > " Children are like butterflies in the wind. > > Some fly higher than others, BUT > > each one flies the best they can!!!! " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 > > Dear Bee, > > In your opinion is there any truth to the following explanation of the body's response to this/any virus? > > " What's counterintuitive with this particular virus, it's in the people who have robust immune systems. As their body starts to respond, to try and fight off that virus, they produce tons of inflammatory cells. Those inflammatory cells can sort of flood the lungs. > > " So, in essence, it's not the virus itself that's so problematic, but the body's reaction to it. " > (from: http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/28/swine.flu/index.html) > > > thanks. > > Rach > My take on that is what a crock of... The problem is an immune system that is TOO good? Tell me how a poor immune system is going to do better than a good immune system. The poor immune system will let the disease progress before overcoming the infection (if it ever does), where the healthy immune system will " nip it in the bud " . Just my opinion. - Roy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hello, I am by no means an expert, but here are my first thoughts about this. We have seen this before. This same strain was in the US in 1976. It was some military units here in the US that had it. One did die, but all the others were OK. The gov't rushed to vaccinate the population, and many got sick from the vaccine. Have you noticed that it hits the people born after 1976 hardest? That being said, it is not a " brand new super bug. " Maybe since many were vaccinated and possibly even had it, there are immunities in the gamma. All I can do is hope, pray, and trust that God has a plan. Am I gonna be stupid? Heck No! Hand sanitizer, no excess trips to crowded places, no buffets, etc. Just my thoughts, From: momtoboywholoveshisgoats@... Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:34:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: Swine Flu Misty I just found this out also. They said there are 2 confirmed cases in Newberry. One of our friends here in G'wood may also have the Flu.....I am really scared for Blake(SCID) because we travel through Newberry to get to Col. Blake is due in Columbia may 7th to see Dr. Garner for his ears. Then on May 14th he has na appt in Lexington...again go through newberry, then to columbia for 3 days for his IV Bone Medicine...we will be staying at the RMH at that time......arrrgggggg Mom to Blake Ps...can't wait to see the rest of your Littlestheroesproject.org Pics!!! " Children are like butterflies in the wind. Some fly higher than others, BUT each one flies the best they can!!!! " From: Misty <mistycmathis@...> Subject: Re: Swine Flu Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:49 AM , Just saw on the news that the Headmaster at the private school has just reported that one of his students is positive for swine flu the the other 12 students tested negative???? they all have the same symptoms but only one tested positive, actually 2 are positive the other is the boyfriend of the student but he does not attend that school. We are only 1 hour away as well. Misty > > > From: mjd452001 <maryjeanedavis@ ...> > Subject: Swine Flu > groups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 11:53 PM > > > > > > > > > I am a lurker also...our daughter andra,13- developmentally about 5 (who has PID as a component of the syndrome she has) has been on IVIG for about 4 1/2 years now. Since she started it, she has been amazingly healthy, thus I haven't spend much time on lists but the swine flu that seems to be making it way into many places around the world especially California has me a little worried. They just closed a school close to us due to an outbreak among the students (private school that took a trip to Mexico during spring break). I am wondering if there are any precautions that would be advisable. is homeschooled, so that of course excludes a huge worry but she does go to group therapy once three times a week. Am I over-reacting to keep her home from these things??? or other group things such as church etc. > > Thanks, > > Jeane > Mom to andra, FG syndrome (and 5 others) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hello, I am by no means an expert, but here are my first thoughts about this. We have seen this before. This same strain was in the US in 1976. It was some military units here in the US that had it. One did die, but all the others were OK. The gov't rushed to vaccinate the population, and many got sick from the vaccine. Have you noticed that it hits the people born after 1976 hardest? That being said, it is not a " brand new super bug. " Maybe since many were vaccinated and possibly even had it, there are immunities in the gamma. All I can do is hope, pray, and trust that God has a plan. Am I gonna be stupid? Heck No! Hand sanitizer, no excess trips to crowded places, no buffets, etc. Just my thoughts, From: momtoboywholoveshisgoats@... Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:34:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Re: Swine Flu Misty I just found this out also. They said there are 2 confirmed cases in Newberry. One of our friends here in G'wood may also have the Flu.....I am really scared for Blake(SCID) because we travel through Newberry to get to Col. Blake is due in Columbia may 7th to see Dr. Garner for his ears. Then on May 14th he has na appt in Lexington...again go through newberry, then to columbia for 3 days for his IV Bone Medicine...we will be staying at the RMH at that time......arrrgggggg Mom to Blake Ps...can't wait to see the rest of your Littlestheroesproject.org Pics!!! " Children are like butterflies in the wind. Some fly higher than others, BUT each one flies the best they can!!!! " From: Misty <mistycmathis@...> Subject: Re: Swine Flu Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:49 AM , Just saw on the news that the Headmaster at the private school has just reported that one of his students is positive for swine flu the the other 12 students tested negative???? they all have the same symptoms but only one tested positive, actually 2 are positive the other is the boyfriend of the student but he does not attend that school. We are only 1 hour away as well. Misty > > > From: mjd452001 <maryjeanedavis@ ...> > Subject: Swine Flu > groups (DOT) com > Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 11:53 PM > > > > > > > > > I am a lurker also...our daughter andra,13- developmentally about 5 (who has PID as a component of the syndrome she has) has been on IVIG for about 4 1/2 years now. Since she started it, she has been amazingly healthy, thus I haven't spend much time on lists but the swine flu that seems to be making it way into many places around the world especially California has me a little worried. They just closed a school close to us due to an outbreak among the students (private school that took a trip to Mexico during spring break). I am wondering if there are any precautions that would be advisable. is homeschooled, so that of course excludes a huge worry but she does go to group therapy once three times a week. Am I over-reacting to keep her home from these things??? or other group things such as church etc. > > Thanks, > > Jeane > Mom to andra, FG syndrome (and 5 others) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 DR.FURMAN - THANK YOU - YOU'RE A PRINCE - In a message dated 4/29/2009 9:33:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rrfurman@... writes: Some general information on the Swine Flu:1. The concern over the Swine Flu is not that it is particularly dangerous. The concern relates to the fact that it is sufficiently different from the previous strains that there is no "residual immunity" in the population. The population immunity helps to slow the spread of any virus. Each year, the Centers for Disease Control picks several components to put into the flu vaccine based upon the information available. The vaccines do not offer any protection against the Swine flu because of differences in its composition. Therefore, the concern is not that it is particularly dangerous, but that it will spread more easily.2. CLL patients and other immunosuppressed patients are no more likely to become infected than anyone else. The virus will infect everyone it comes into contact with, regardless of their immune status.3. There is a suggestion that the severity of the infection is related to the healthiness of the immune system and that people with NORMAL immune systems are more likely to have MORE serious infections. This is because the damage caused by the virus is not due to the virus as much as it is due to the immune system attacking the virus.Overall, I believe that it is important to remember that the outbreaks have been identified early and will hopefully be contained. While the chances of getting the virus from daily contact is astronomically small, this is the only means to contract it. While sitting on an airplane might expose you to the virus if someone else on the plane is infected, it is important to remember that the chances are so small that someone infected will be on the plane and that you will get it from the recirculated air. It is not necessary to restrict air travel. Most transfer of the virus is not via airborne transmission, but direct surface to surface. The typically scenario would be wiping one's nose after shaking hands with someone infected who had rubbed their nose.I do believe (because I am young and ideological) that it is important to not panic and reserve the Tamiflu for those who definitely need it. At this point in time, I encourage everyone to continue leading their lives without concern for the flu. The only thing I do recommend is good hand washing, avoid direct contact with possible contaminated surfaces (sharing cell phones, etc.), eating healthy, stop smoking, etc.I hope this helps.Rick Furman, MD>> First, my deepest sympathies to on the loss of his father to CLL. > > I am scheduled to fly on Sat. out to New Mexico for a brief stay and then on to Tucson. There is business I need to take care of and visit my elderly parents as well. I am a bit nervous given this swine flu outbreak. I was unsuccessful in getting a prescription for tamiflu to carry with me or getting tamiflu. When I called my local Onc's office they said the state health dept (VT) was advising not to give out tamiflu unless the pt. is examined and has a confirmed case of swine flu. Apparently, there is a shortage of tamiflu and relenza etc. Or not enough to go around should this flu become really widespread. I asked if special consideration could be given to those with disease that compromises the immune system like CLL. She was going to check.> > , Dr. Furman, do you have any opinion re. people with CLL having tamiflu on hand or more readily available.> I have to tell you that I have a new primary MD (again) because the rural health clinic where I live is having a hard time recruiting and keepin primary MD's. His advice was to cancel my plans and not go. I told him it was not an option at this time due to my busy work schedule and family obligations etc. I will travel unless this flu really breaks in a big way.> Comments/Opinions/Advice?> Randolph> Atypical CLL> Stage 0> W+W, doing well> Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Dear Dr. Furman: This is the best information I have yet seen. Very rational. Thank you so much, Beth Havey Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 elderberry tincture with sambuccus From: starwoman_777 <starwoman_777@...> Subject: Swine Flu Dr Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 3:21 PM Anyone know what would be good to take during this swine flu virus epedimic...I suppose oregano oil would be one good thing to take...anyone has any other suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Hi Russ, Since Mexico and New Mexico USA are sometimes confused, I just wanted to reassure you that there have been no reported incidents of swine flu in New Mexico at this time. However, being a border state, our state health dept. does anticipate that we may be seeing cases of swine flu. I would imagine this to be true of other border states as well. Ron Goldsmith Albuquerque, New Mexico USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Some general information on the Swine Flu: 1. The concern over the Swine Flu is not that it is particularly dangerous. The concern relates to the fact that it is sufficiently different from the previous strains that there is no " residual immunity " in the population. The population immunity helps to slow the spread of any virus. Each year, the Centers for Disease Control picks several components to put into the flu vaccine based upon the information available. The vaccines do not offer any protection against the Swine flu because of differences in its composition. Therefore, the concern is not that it is particularly dangerous, but that it will spread more easily. 2. CLL patients and other immunosuppressed patients are no more likely to become infected than anyone else. The virus will infect everyone it comes into contact with, regardless of their immune status. 3. There is a suggestion that the severity of the infection is related to the healthiness of the immune system and that people with NORMAL immune systems are more likely to have MORE serious infections. This is because the damage caused by the virus is not due to the virus as much as it is due to the immune system attacking the virus. Overall, I believe that it is important to remember that the outbreaks have been identified early and will hopefully be contained. While the chances of getting the virus from daily contact is astronomically small, this is the only means to contract it. While sitting on an airplane might expose you to the virus if someone else on the plane is infected, it is important to remember that the chances are so small that someone infected will be on the plane and that you will get it from the recirculated air. It is not necessary to restrict air travel. Most transfer of the virus is not via airborne transmission, but direct surface to surface. The typically scenario would be wiping one's nose after shaking hands with someone infected who had rubbed their nose. I do believe (because I am young and ideological) that it is important to not panic and reserve the Tamiflu for those who definitely need it. At this point in time, I encourage everyone to continue leading their lives without concern for the flu. The only thing I do recommend is good hand washing, avoid direct contact with possible contaminated surfaces (sharing cell phones, etc.), eating healthy, stop smoking, etc. I hope this helps. Rick Furman, MD > > First, my deepest sympathies to on the loss of his father to CLL. > > I am scheduled to fly on Sat. out to New Mexico for a brief stay and then on to Tucson. There is business I need to take care of and visit my elderly parents as well. I am a bit nervous given this swine flu outbreak. I was unsuccessful in getting a prescription for tamiflu to carry with me or getting tamiflu. When I called my local Onc's office they said the state health dept (VT) was advising not to give out tamiflu unless the pt. is examined and has a confirmed case of swine flu. Apparently, there is a shortage of tamiflu and relenza etc. Or not enough to go around should this flu become really widespread. I asked if special consideration could be given to those with disease that compromises the immune system like CLL. She was going to check. > > , Dr. Furman, do you have any opinion re. people with CLL having tamiflu on hand or more readily available. > I have to tell you that I have a new primary MD (again) because the rural health clinic where I live is having a hard time recruiting and keepin primary MD's. His advice was to cancel my plans and not go. I told him it was not an option at this time due to my busy work schedule and family obligations etc. I will travel unless this flu really breaks in a big way. > Comments/Opinions/Advice? > Randolph > Atypical CLL > Stage 0 > W+W, doing well > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 Friends, In the 1918 Flu pandemic, the cohort with the highest mortality rate was 20-40 years olds. The theory was that the reaction of their powerful immune systems was the cause of the lung failure. Also in 1918, the first wave of flu was quite mild, but the second, that wave, that was the killer. Hand washing, and maybe N-95 masks in crowds. Be well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 get mms (miracle mineral supplement) kills all pathogens paul 2009/4/28 JANET RICHMOND <janetrichmond@...> > > > What about Oil of Oregano Capsuls, are they good to use for Flu viruses? > Also, I heard Colloidal Silver is used to fight these viruses, is this > true? > > -Janet > > > " I don't believe that there is anything else available anyplace in the > world at any price - with or without a prescription - that has been > clinically proven to do all the things that Juice Plus+ has been shown to > do. " Dr DuBois M.D. > www.juiceplus.com/+jr28319 > > > > From: stephanie emmert <tennymichele@... <tennymichele%40>> > Subject: Re: Swine Flu > Dr <Dr%40> > Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 6:48 PM > > Vitamins A and D, Olive Leaf Extract, Beta Glucan > > Avoid sugar of course..... > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: starwoman_777 <starwoman_777> > Dr@groups .com > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 4:21:55 PM > Subject: Swine Flu > > Anyone know what would be good to take during this swine flu virus > epedimic...I suppose oregano oil would be one good thing to take...anyone > has any other suggestions? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 I feel like I have to say something for the sake of us all. I have a suggestion around the Swine Flu updates, Maps , research from now on. Our greatest enemy is stress. Being aware of your world and having too much of it in your life can bring on stress even if you are not aware of it. This errodes your immune system. My request is that we stop discussing it so much. There is nothing, absolutely nothing anyone can do about it. If you are going to catch it, you are going to catch it. There is a very good saying that I think applies here. " Worry is interest paid on something that has not even happened yet." So concentrate more on distracting your minds, laugh more, get more sun, eat really, really well, love well,get enough sleep and chant the above saying while you meditate and pray. Got to go ride the babies. Hugs to all, Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Sue, Well said. The media is having a grand time with this, feeding the frenzy that is the result. It is best for us if we stay away from it. Pam Re: Swine flu I feel like I have to say something for the sake of us all. I have a suggestion around the Swine Flu updates, Maps , research from now on. Our greatest enemy is stress. Being aware of your world and having too much of it in your life can bring on stress even if you are not aware of it. This errodes your immune system. My request is that we stop discussing it so much. There is nothing, absolutely nothing anyone can do about it. If you are going to catch it, you are going to catch it. There is a very good saying that I think applies here. " Worry is interest paid on something that has not even happened yet." So concentrate more on distracting your minds, laugh more, get more sun, eat really, really well, love well,get enough sleep and chant the above saying while you meditate and pray. Got to go ride the babies. Hugs to all, Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 A teaspoon of sugar paralyzes your immune system for about 7 hours. Kathy Also new to the group... > > New to the group..Why avoid sugar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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