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The production of T4, its conversion to T3, and the receptor uptake (called ‘binding’) requires a normal amount of adrenal hormones, notably cortisone. If your adrenals are not making the cortisone your body requires, it will not be able to help the conversion of T4 to T3 - and remember, it is T3 you need.Taking thyroxine that is not being converted can cause toxic effect - which is what you might be suffering now. However, as you have decided to cut back on your NAE - if it is this that is causing your sickness, then you should telephone Dr P to seek his further recommendations. This might be cortisone, though it would have been good if you could have found a supplement to boost your adrenals first before having to go down that road. As Pam suggests, the little cortef pellets might be the way, but do pass this by Dr Peatfield as he is the doctor treating you and you should not go down the road of trying something without his say so.

luv - Sheila

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I never got an information leaflet with mine! I carried on taking my thyroxine and really I should have stopped it for a week or so but because I didnt know I therefore didnt stop.

I have been told its best to stop the T4 but I personnally dont see what difference stopping a week would do as T4 has such a long hallf life it will still be in your system at the same level after a week, but that seems to be the advice. I may have delayed my progress on it by not stopping and have had to reduce my dose as I was taking 4 and have felt very sick, I am sticking with 2 now for a while. Some people cant tollerate high doses although some seem to take 6 I dont think I could. I hope it helps you

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Hi Sheila

I have mailed Dr P but will try him again, he hasnt replied yet and I feel the need to try something else quickly

I have just thought though that the sickness started to some degree when I added the nutri thyroid to my medication, it may not be the Nae, it may be the NT.

Very hard to tell!

I might stop that for a few days and see if that makes a difference because the Nae didnt make me feel sick when I first started it, it may just be an over load of bovine product?

I understand what you mean though about the T4-T3 conversion and that it could be my adrenals not helping in that. Does NAE help you make more cortisone?

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The production of T4, its conversion to T3, and the receptor uptake (called ‘binding’) requires a normal amount of adrenal hormones, notably cortisone. If your adrenals are not making the cortisone your body requires, it will not be able to help the conversion of T4 to T3 - and remember, it is T3 you need.Taking thyroxine that is not being converted can cause toxic effect - which is what you might be suffering

luv - Sheila

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I never got an information leaflet with mine! I carried on taking my thyroxine and really I should have stopped it for a week or so but because I didnt know I therefore didnt stop.

I have been told its best to stop the T4 but I personnally dont see what difference stopping a week would do as T4 has such a long hallf life it will still be in your system at the same level after a week, but that seems to be the advice. I may have delayed my progress on it by not stopping and have had to reduce my dose as I was taking 4 and have felt very sick, I am sticking with 2 now for a while. Some people cant tollerate high doses although some seem to take 6 I dont think I could. I hope it helps you

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Dr P has gone to his clinic in Stockport starting tomorrow and will not be back until Monday/Tuesday so you cannot get him until then.

Wait and see how you feel after decreasing your NAE. If you still feel sickly after that, it could, as you say, be the Nutri Thyroid.

It is a process of elimination when it comes to something like this.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila

I have mailed Dr P but will try him again, he hasnt replied yet and I feel the need to try something else quickly

I have just thought though that the sickness started to some degree when I added the nutri thyroid to my medication, it may not be the Nae, it may be the NT.

Very hard to tell!

I might stop that for a few days and see if that makes a difference because the Nae didnt make me feel sick when I first started it, it may just be an over load of bovine product?

I understand what you mean though about the T4-T3 conversion and that it could be my adrenals not helping in that. Does NAE help you make more cortisone?

Hi

I never got an information leaflet with mine! I carried on taking my thyroxine and really I should have stopped it for a week or so but because I didnt know I therefore didnt stop.

I have been told its best to stop the T4 but I personnally dont see what difference stopping a week would do as T4 has such a long hallf life it will still be in your system at the same level after a week, but that seems to be the advice. I may have delayed my progress on it by not stopping and have had to reduce my dose as I was taking 4 and have felt very sick, I am sticking with 2 now for a while. Some people cant tollerate high doses although some seem to take 6 I dont think I could. I hope it helps you

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Yes thats what I am going to do, thanks Sheila, at least I am still taking some NAE and not stopped it complelety and after a few days I will try and increase it again as you say its a process of elimination.

When I saw Dr P at your house he gave me a diary to complete over six weeks then I have to send it to him and i think after 12 weeks I am due to see him again, is that right?

The problem being the 12 weeks is up when I am on holiday, I see hes at your house again on the 18th/19th October? This will be when I am due a follow up appointment which I wont be able to make due to being on holiday, what do you suggest I do?

From: sheilaturner <sheilaturner@...>Subject: Re: NAEthyroid treatment Date: Wednesday, 6 August, 2008, 7:30 PM

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Dr P has gone to his clinic in Stockport starting tomorrow and will not be back until Monday/Tuesday so you cannot get him until then.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila

I have mailed Dr P but will try him again, he hasnt replied yet and I feel the need to try something else quickly

I have just thought though that the sickness started to some degree when I added the nutri thyroid to my medication, it may not be the Nae, it may be the NT.

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Hi , try ringing him, very slow with e-mails (can take two weeks)!

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> Hi Sheila

> I have mailed  Dr P  but will try him again, he hasnt replied yet

and I feel the need to try something else quickly

> I have just thought though that the sickness started to some degree

when I added the nutri thyroid to my medication, it may not be the Nae,

it may be the NT.

> Very hard to tell!

> I might stop that for a few days and see if that makes a difference

because the Nae didnt make me feel sick when I first started it, it may

just be an over load of bovine product?

> I understand what you mean though about the T4-T3 conversion and that

it could be my adrenals not helping in that. Does NAE help you make

more cortisone?

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I wouldn't worry too much if you cannot see Dr P because you will be away on holiday, you could always arrange a telephone consultation with him when you return. I think the dates of the clinic at my home will probably now be changed to a day or so later now Dr P has a new benue for one of his other clinics and can only use that one on a Wednesday, Thyrsday and Friday, but as soon as I get the new dates, I will add these on our website.

I hope you have a wonderful holiday and that by then, you will be feeling so much better which i am sure you will be.

Luv - Sheila

Yes thats what I am going to do, thanks Sheila, at least I am still taking some NAE and not stopped it complelety and after a few days I will try and increase it again as you say its a process of elimination.

When I saw Dr P at your house he gave me a diary to complete over six weeks then I have to send it to him and i think after 12 weeks I am due to see him again, is that right?

The problem being the 12 weeks is up when I am on holiday, I see hes at your house again on the 18th/19th October? This will be when I am due a follow up appointment which I wont be able to make due to being on holiday, what do you suggest I do?



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Hi Lizzie, I myself wondered if I was taking too much NAE but Dr P

assured me that it is not possible as it is just support, not

medication. I am taking 4 per day. Ruth x

> I just feel a little confused as to whether I need adrenal support.

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> did drop down to 3 but that was around the time I became a little

> hyper. Since increasing the dose I have gone back up to 4 but wonder

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> adrenal supplementation, if not, this could have caused a thyroid

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> L-thyroxine dose by 25 mcgs. I would guess it is your thyroid

hormone

> replacement that is not yet balanced, rather than the NAE. You did

> not appear to be converting the T4 to T3 before did you, so you

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supplements so it's reassuring to know that it isn't harmful to take

too many.

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This is a difficult one, especially as you feel anxious about stopping Armour. However, your adrenal support will most likely not do the trick unless you give them a bit of a rest whilst you are boosting them. If it was me , I would try it for a week and see how you get on. The panic is worse than the experience, honestly.

Luv - Sheila

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ooops, I've been taking my Armour and my NAE without any break of Armour beforehand....is that why I feel so auful (I can hardly function and I have pain in my kidney area) ?

I'm kinda anxious about not taking my Armour for two weeks....am I really going to manage without it ???

sorry to make a fuss,I seem to be having one of those 'one step forward,two steps back' episodes.

julia

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Hi ,

Are you doing this on your own? When I changed from T4 (with advice chrischids!) I stopped the T4 for 5 days, starting the adrenal support immediately, and started Armour after the 5 days ,and then later increasing the dose until I got to optimum. I didn't feel at all bad doing it this way as the T4 has halved in the 5 days, but not dropped too far in the short period of stopping thyroid meds. I'm not sure what is in the files, as I haven't looked recently, but that is agood place to check for more info.

Hi Sheila

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ooops, I've been taking my Armour and my NAE without any break of Armour beforehand....is that why I feel so auful (I can hardly function and I have pain in my kidney area) ?

I'm kinda anxious about not taking my Armour for two weeks....am I really going to manage without it ???

sorry to make a fuss,I seem to be having one of those 'one step forward,two steps back' episodes.

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When I started NAE I didnt stop my thyroxine either, not sure if I felt any worse for not doing that and to be honest NAE can take several months to have its full effect and no one should stop their thyroid for that long anyway, so I cant see how stopping for 2 weeks when starting NAE will have any effect as NAE doesnt work straight away, the full benefit wont be felt for several months and I was told that by Pam who knows a lot about the nutri products--- On Mon, 15/9/08, sheilaturner <sheilaturner@...>

 This is a difficult one, especially as you feel anxious about stopping Armour. However, your adrenal support will most likely not do the trick unless you give them a bit of a rest whilst you are boosting them. If it was me , I would try it for a week and see how you get on. The panic is worse than the experience, honestly.

Luv - Sheila

Hi Sheila

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ooops, I've been taking my Armour and my NAE without any break of Armour beforehand.. ..is that why I feel so auful (I can hardly function and I have pain in my kidney area) ?

I'm kinda anxious about not taking my Armour for two weeks....am I really going to manage without it ???

sorry to make a fuss,I seem to be having one of those 'one step forward,two steps back' episodes.

julia

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I think it is more important to stop thyroid meds when starting HC as this is quite a strong adrenal support, but I wouldnt recommend anyone stopped for as long as i did! 3 weeks in total, I didnt feel any different to start with but boy did it hit me eventually!! I am slowly building up my thyroxine dose and I think I will feel better for this in the long run, and guess what? I havent felt sick today Horray!--- On Mon, 15/9/08, jenny stenning <jennystenning@...>

Hi , Are you doing this on your own? When I changed from T4 (with advice chrischids!) I stopped the T4 for 5 days, starting the adrenal support immediately, and started Armour after the 5 days ,and then later increasing the dose until I got to optimum. I didn't feel at all bad doing it this way as the T4 has halved in the 5 days, but not dropped too far in the short period of stopping thyroid meds. I'm not sure what is in the files, as I haven't looked recently, but that is agood place to check for more info.

Hi Sheila

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ooops, I've been taking my Armour and my NAE without any break of Armour beforehand.. ..is that why I feel so auful (I can hardly function and I have pain in my kidney area) ?

I'm kinda anxious about not taking my Armour for two weeks....am I really going to manage without it ???

sorry to make a fuss,I seem to be having one of those 'one step forward,two steps back' episodes.

julia

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>and guess what? I havent felt sick today Horray!

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Hi

It is always important that you stop your thyroid hormone replacement when you start any form of adrenal supplementation whether this is HC or Nutri Adrenal, or any other make of adrenal supplement to give your adrenals as much help and support as possible. Your doctor should not even start you on thyroxine if your adrenals are compromised until they have been boosted, as has been made clear in the PIL in your thyroxine box. We are not talking about several weeks, we are talking of a few days at least - and the longer, the better. It has nothing to do with NAE working straight away or not, it is the further stress to the adrenals of suddenly adding another supplement. All the doctors who recommend this, including Dr P would not recommend it if it it was unnecessary. Also,and I don't mean this to sound harsh, but just because somebody knows a lot about the Nutri Products does not necessarily mean they know about the adrenal/thyroid connection.

Luv - Sheila

When I started NAE I didnt stop my thyroxine either, not sure if I felt any worse for not doing that and to be honest NAE can take several months to have its full effect and no one should stop their thyroid for that long anyway, so I cant see how stopping for 2 weeks when starting NAE will have any effect as NAE doesnt work straight away, the full benefit wont be felt for several months and I was told that by Pam who knows a lot about the nutri products



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As said in my last message, it is important to stop thyroid meds when starting all forms of adrenal support. You stopping for 3 weeks is the exception, but that was not your fault, it was the fault of the postman. The lesson to be learned here folk is that for those of you who are needing to boost your adrenals, please order your supplement or HC first and do not stop your thyroid hormone until you have the HC or NAE at hand.

I am delighted you haven't felt sick today . Onward and upward.

Luv - Sheila

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I think it is more important to stop thyroid meds when starting HC as this is quite a strong adrenal support, but I wouldnt recommend anyone stopped for as long as i did! 3 weeks in total, I didnt feel any different to start with but boy did it hit me eventually!! I am slowly building up my thyroxine dose and I think I will feel better for this in the long run, and guess what? I havent felt sick today Horray!

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I was only saying what Pam had heard from someone who works ar Nutri, and they said the full effect of glandular support take several months, I wasnt saying this person claimed to know anything about the adrenal/thyroid connection--- On Mon, 15/9/08, sheilaturner <sheilaturner@...>

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It is always important that you stop your thyroid hormone replacement when you start any form of adrenal supplementation whether this is HC or Nutri Adrenal, or any other make of adrenal supplement to give your adrenals as much help and support as possible. Your doctor should not even start you on thyroxine if your adrenals are compromised until they have been boosted, as has been made clear in the PIL in your thyroxine box. We are not talking about several weeks, we are talking of a few days at least - and the longer, the better. It has nothing to do with NAE working straight away or not,

Luv - Sheila

When I started NAE I didnt stop my thyroxine either, not sure if I felt any worse for not doing that and to be honest NAE can take several months to have its full effect and no one should stop their thyroid for that long anyway, so I cant see how stopping for 2 weeks when starting NAE will have any effect as NAE doesnt work straight away, the full benefit wont be felt for several months and I was told that by Pam who knows a lot about the nutri products



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Hope it is ok to chime in here. I am also treating adrenals. I am

taking HC 5, 7.5, 5. My doctor put me on T3 right away. I have a

reverse T3 issue. Now I am concerned. She also started me on some

supplements for liver, acid reflux, cod liver oil instead of Vit D,

Magnesium, selenium, Itt Woman for sexual function. It sounds like I

may be stressing my adrenals from what you are saying. Although I do

feel pretty good. Any thoughts?

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replacement when you start any form of adrenal supplementation whether

this is HC or Nutri Adrenal, or any other make of adrenal supplement

to give your adrenals as much help and support as possible. Your

doctor should not even start you on thyroxine if your adrenals are

compromised until they have been boosted, as has been made clear in

the PIL in your thyroxine box. We are not talking about several weeks,

we are talking of a few days at least - and the longer, the better. It

has nothing to do with NAE working straight away or not, it is the

further stress to the adrenals of suddenly adding another supplement.

All the doctors who recommend this, including Dr P would not recommend

it if it it was unnecessary. Also,and I don't mean this to sound

harsh, but just because somebody knows a lot about the Nutri Products

does not necessarily mean they know about the adrenal/thyroid connection.

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sure if I felt any worse for not doing that and to be honest NAE can

take several months to have its full effect and no one should stop

their thyroid for that long anyway, so I cant see how stopping for 2

weeks when starting NAE will have any effect as NAE doesnt work

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I am not sure that the rule regarding T4 and adrenals actually applies to those taking T3 alone. T3 is the active hormone and starts to do its job pretty quickly. It is the T4 I believe thatmight be a problem. It has to convert to T3 for this to work and you need the adrenal hormones to helpwith this. If the adrenals are already stressed, it stresses them even more to have this extra burden placed on them. The Patient Information Leaflet I am quoting is for Thyroxine - not for T3 so you should be fine. However, if anybody takes T3, can you have a look on your leaflet that is in with the tablets to see whether any mention is made of taking the medication if you have an adrenal problem please?

As you are feeling pretty good Venizia, I wouldn't worry. Do you feel better since starting HC?

luv - Sheila

Hope it is ok to chime in here. I am also treating adrenals. I amtaking HC 5, 7.5, 5. My doctor put me on T3 right away. I have areverse T3 issue. Now I am concerned. She also started me on somesupplements for liver, acid reflux, cod liver oil instead of Vit D, Magnesium, selenium, Itt Woman for sexual function. It sounds like Imay be stressing my adrenals from what you are saying. Although I dofeel pretty good. Any thoughts?Venizia

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>anybody takes T3, can you have a look on your leaflet that is in

>the tablets to see whether any mention is made of taking the if you

>have an adrenal problem please?

That's an interesting thought Sheila. I've just looked for my PIL

with the Cytomel. Unfortunately, I've discarded it. I hope someone

else comes along to let us know what it says.

Wouldn't the uptake of T3, and not only the conversion of T4 to T3,

stress the adrenals? In which case taking T3 with weak adrenals

would still not be a good idea.

I'd love to know because at present I'm not taking T3 because I

thought I had to sort out my adrenals first. Have I got that wrong

do you think? Have I misunderstood what you are saying?

Like I said, an interesting thought. But I'll err on the side of

caution til I know otherwise!

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Thanks Sheila. Oh yes, I feel SO much better having started HC. I

had no engergy I would fall asleep if I just sat in a chair. Very,

not me! Depression was a problem and I am find with that also. I do

feel the depression was from not being able to do what I was used to.

Once I got my energy back, the depression is gone. I still have not

lost any of the extra weight I put on though. Not happy about that.

But I think I had this Rt3 issue for a very long time without

diagnoses. I understand that the weight lost will be the last thing I

notice. It can't happen too soon for me. My T3 is compounded and I

do not get an insert with it.

Venizia

>... However, if anybody takes T3, can

you have a look on your leaflet that is in with the tablets to see

whether any mention is made of taking the medication if you have an

adrenal problem please?

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Hi ,

Rushes off and peel PIL from cytomel bottle-and NHS T3 (goldshield)

Goldsheild one says"Consult your doc...if you have a thyroidproblem for a long time? this can affect your adrenal glands."

Cytomel- Precautions therapy in patients with concomitant diabetes mellitus or insipidus or adrenal cortical insufficiency aggravates the intensity of their symptoms. appropriate adjustments of... theraputic measures directed at these comcomitant endocrine diseases are required. The therapy of myxodema coma requires simulatneous admimistration of glucocorticoids.

> thyroid treatment > From: marlene.emmett@...> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:43:05 +0000> Subject: Re: NAE> > > > > I am not sure that the rule regarding T4 and adrenals actually to > >those taking T3 alone. The Patient Information Leaflet I am quoting > >is for Thyroxine - not for T3 so you should be fine. However, if > >anybody takes T3, can you have a look on your leaflet that is in > >the tablets to see whether any mention is made of taking the if you > >have an adrenal problem please?> > That's an interesting thought Sheila. I've just looked for my PIL > with the Cytomel. Unfortunately, I've discarded it. I hope someone > else comes along to let us know what it says.> > Wouldn't the uptake of T3, and not only the conversion of T4 to T3, > stress the adrenals? In which case taking T3 with weak adrenals > would still not be a good idea. > > I'd love to know because at present I'm not taking T3 because I > thought I had to sort out my adrenals first. Have I got that wrong > do you think? Have I misunderstood what you are saying?> > Like I said, an interesting thought. But I'll err on the side of > caution til I know otherwise!> > x > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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Thanks , just what we were looking for - so - the manufacturers of T3 do recommend precaution in patients with adrenal insufficiency. So there's your answer , if your adrenals are low, get them boosted before you start either T4 or T3

luv - Sheila

Hi , Rushes off and peel PIL from cytomel bottle-and NHS T3 (goldshield) Goldsheild one says"Consult your doc...if you have a thyroidproblem for a long time? this can affect your adrenal glands."Cytomel- Precautions therapy in patients with concomitant diabetes mellitus or insipidus or adrenal cortical insufficiency aggravates the intensity of their symptoms. appropriate adjustments of... theraputic measures directed at these comcomitant endocrine diseases are required. The therapy of myxodema coma requires simulatneous admimistration of glucocorticoids. > thyroid treatment > From: marlene.emmettbtinternet> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:43:05 +0000> Subject: Re: NAE> > > > > I am not sure that the rule regarding T4 and adrenals actually to > >those taking T3 alone. The Patient Information Leaflet I am quoting > >is for Thyroxine - not for T3 so you should be fine. However, if > >anybody takes T3, can you have a look on your leaflet that is in > >the tablets to see whether any mention is made of taking the if you > >have an adrenal problem please?> > That's an interesting thought Sheila. I've just looked for my PIL > with the Cytomel. Unfortunately, I've discarded it. I hope someone > else comes along to let us know what it says.> > Wouldn't the uptake of T3, and not only the conversion of T4 to T3, > stress the adrenals? In which case taking T3 with weak adrenals > would still not be a good idea. > > I'd love to know because at present I'm not taking T3 because I > thought I had to sort out my adrenals first. Have I got that wrong > do you think? Have I misunderstood what you are saying?> > Like I said, an interesting thought. But I'll err on the side of > caution til I know otherwise!> > x > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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>So there's your answer , if your adrenals are low, get them

>boosted before you start either T4 or T3

I'm trying Sheila! Trouble is, I can't find anything I don't react to.

It's really difficult. I've come to a full stop again with my latest

attempt, so now have to find something else. But what? I've run out of

options it seems. If anyone has any ideas apart from glandulars,

ginseng, licorice, and anything with bovine or wheat ingredients, I

would be very grateful! I'm using this time out to try to balance my

sex hormones, so at least I'm doing something.

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