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No centers within 40+ miles of us, otherwise I would be looking into it as well.

What is SEIT?

Thanks

TJ

>

> ABA is for behavior therapy. My dd who just turned 4, is a great candidate and

it can be paid for using SEIT hours. usually, the best scenario is to place a

child in a center that has a pre-school, plus an ABA class. The child goes with

her own SEIT/ABA therapist to he ABA class, and is integrated into the class

during social hours. You ask the Boed to give you 25 hours of SEIT to cover the

week. You will need an acceptance letter from the center in order to get the

SEIT. I am currently picking a center, so I have no ABA feedback yet.

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Good Luck Sue...I think all of us have differering issues with the common

denominator that we have something wrong with our back and pain is a part of our

lives...I hope you find the procedure is able to work for you..

Tom

In a message dated 3/28/2009 7:08:23 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,

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I have had neck pain daily for 5 years.I was told last year I needed fusion

at C5 and C6.Iwasn't able to have it at that time because the deductible on my

insurance was sky high as well as the OOP portion.I would come home from

work everyday with a screaming headache,totalu eshausted and pain level at

about

7-8.My husband is a very high energy person always wanting to be on the go I

tried so hard to grin and bear it.I know it has affected our marriage.The

pain got so bad the last three months I was always worried how I was going to

make it through another day at work.The end of Feb I got an email that was an

answer to my prayers.I had found a clinical trial for an artificial disc

being studied at Texas Back Institute.I sent the study coordinator an email and

attached a copy of my MRI report.She got bavk to me in about 2 months and

told me to call and make an appointment.got bavk to me in about 2 months and

told me to call and make an appointmen

artificial disc.I would be told after surgery if I got the disc or the

fusion.I figured either way I was better off than having nothing done at

all.When

I got out of the Recovery Room and they took me to my regular room,my Husband

was there and he told me I got the fusion.I had no pain,I walked early,my

appetite was good and the next morning I was ready to go home!!! The first 3

days at home I did great,no pain.The fourth day the pain came,my neck,between

my shoulders and the tops of my arms get these burning sharp pains if they are

in a certain position.The pain in my neck and scapular area feel like muscle

spasms.Today the pain is better,I actually noticed last night it was

better.It's there but feels like it's less intense.I would like to hear from

any of

you who have had this same surgery.I go Monday the 30th for my first post op

visit.Iam praying this surgery will give me some pain relief.I had gotten to

the point that if I had to live with that

pain everyday I just didn't want to be here anymore.I would be happy for

30-50% better! Sue

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My son was diagnosed at 2. So not too early by any means. Sounds to me like

possible apraxia ... but my son did babble and very early said Mama very

clearly. However only the one time (but I didn't think about the fact I didn't

hear it again....) Liam also has never had trouble drinking from a straw (that

i noticed anyway) nor blowing things; but did with licking ice cream, etc. I

also never saw him smile (I thought he was shy ... now I know different!)

However he has been listed as 'severe' ,

As for words, Liam would say Mama for everything and everybody. But NOT Dada.

He also followed directions extremely well (better than his older brother who is

27 months older than him). He would say 'moah' for 'more'. With speech therapy

(with a good therapist, FINALLY) he is doing rather well now.

One other thing about apraxia ... children will say a word but they won't be

able to say it again ... speech is very inconsistent (like mine saying Mama that

one time).

So I haven't answered your question at all, but I hope you get something from

it! I know someone more qualified will answer you shortly.

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From: sleon05 <sleon05@...>

Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 2:43:26 PM

Subject: [ ] New here

My 24 mo old son is a puzzle to me. When he was younger I noticed the lack of

speech so I went to EI at 16 months old and he has therapy but OT for focus and

sensory. I think his sensory issues have almost but dissapeared but anyway no

speech therapy was given . I have been fighting with them to get it but they are

still hung up on when he was 16 months how delayed he was but now he is at or

above in everything except expressive speech according to his new evaluation.

They are now entertaining speech but nothing yet. I keep fighting becasue he has

no words at all but receptive is good. He never really babbled as a baby. I

didn't notice until my new little girl who is 8 weeks old coos and talks and my

husband and I were like hey our little guy never really did that. He did have a

permanent smile on his face and still does to this day. I should also say he

overstuffs when eating. He eats great never choked but a terrible chewer. He

can blow a bubble and

do raspberrys. He says some animal sounds a few we would only know what he is

saying. He can only really say the MMMM sound for " mama " and " more " HE makes the

ahhhh sound for WOW. He like Wow Wow Wubzy. Anyway so my research brought me

here but it seems no one really gets diagnosed this young. So I decided to try

PROEFA as a test to see if it brings out some babbling. We started today. How do

i know if this is just a speech delay or apraxia? My regional center is driving

me crazy with this run around. I wish I knew where else to go for answers.

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hi, 

I also have a mouth stuffer!  To the point that i had to tell school when he

started that

this is the way he eats, not to worry.

We found that to this day (he's 9 now) he doesn't do meat very well due to his

inability

to chew properly.  when he was 3 we had chicken for dinner one night, an hour

later i noticed

that something was in his mouth.  well lo and behold it was a piece of chicken!

he didn't even

know it was in there.  What i've done since then is make things like meatloaf or

sausage because

it's ground up.  He's doing better with chicken, but when my husband and i have

steak, i do a sausage

for him.

Keep up with the PROEFA, that's what kick started things for us.  Also, add a

PROEPA as well.

the best dosage to start now would be 2 PROEFA and 1 PROEPA.  It worked wonders

for

us.  At first it wasn't that he was saying actual words, it was that he started

attempting more sounds,

that in turn helped with his words later.

I would continue bugging for speech services.  Don't let up.  Try privately if

you can, at least

that way you'll have an evaluation to bring to the table for EI.  Also, even if

nobody wants to dx

apraxia, try and find an SLP who is at least aware of it.  That way treatments

will be more appropriate

and the dx will follow after that.

hth

sandy

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From: sleon05 <sleon05@...>

Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 2:43:26 PM

Subject: [ ] New here

My 24 mo old son is a puzzle to me. When he was younger I noticed the lack of

speech so I went to EI at 16 months old and he has therapy but OT for focus and

sensory. I think his sensory issues have almost but dissapeared but anyway no

speech therapy was given . I have been fighting with them to get it but they are

still hung up on when he was 16 months how delayed he was but now he is at or

above in everything except expressive speech according to his new evaluation.

They are now entertaining speech but nothing yet. I keep fighting becasue he has

no words at all but receptive is good. He never really babbled as a baby. I

didn't notice until my new little girl who is 8 weeks old coos and talks and my

husband and I were like hey our little guy never really did that. He did have a

permanent smile on his face and still does to this day. I should also say he

overstuffs when eating. He eats great never choked but a terrible chewer. He can

blow a bubble and do

raspberrys. He says some animal sounds a few we would only know what he is

saying. He can only really say the MMMM sound for " mama " and " more " HE makes the

ahhhh sound for WOW. He like Wow Wow Wubzy. Anyway so my research brought me

here but it seems no one really gets diagnosed this young. So I decided to try

PROEFA as a test to see if it brings out some babbling. We started today. How do

i know if this is just a speech delay or apraxia? My regional center is driving

me crazy with this run around. I wish I knew where else to go for answers.

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Hi, I was wondering if the " PROEPA " everyone talks about is the " EPA " on Nordic

Naturals website? the link I found is here

http://www.nordicnaturals.com/en/Products/Product_Details

/98/proddetail.php?ProdID=1498 & MainID=1414

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From: sandy lehmann <mommie2chris@...>

Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 9:24:53 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] New here

hi,

I also have a mouth stuffer! To the point that i had to tell school when he

started that

this is the way he eats, not to worry.

We found that to this day (he's 9 now) he doesn't do meat very well due to his

inability

to chew properly. when he was 3 we had chicken for dinner one night, an hour

later i noticed

that something was in his mouth. well lo and behold it was a piece of chicken!

he didn't even

know it was in there. What i've done since then is make things like meatloaf or

sausage because

it's ground up. He's doing better with chicken, but when my husband and i have

steak, i do a sausage

for him.

Keep up with the PROEFA, that's what kick started things for us. Also, add a

PROEPA as well.

the best dosage to start now would be 2 PROEFA and 1 PROEPA. It worked wonders

for

us. At first it wasn't that he was saying actual words, it was that he started

attempting more sounds,

that in turn helped with his words later.

I would continue bugging for speech services. Don't let up. Try privately if

you can, at least

that way you'll have an evaluation to bring to the table for EI. Also, even if

nobody wants to dx

apraxia, try and find an SLP who is at least aware of it. That way treatments

will be more appropriate

and the dx will follow after that.

hth

sandy

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From: sleon05 <sleon05 (DOT) com>

@groups. com

Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 2:43:26 PM

Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] New here

My 24 mo old son is a puzzle to me. When he was younger I noticed the lack of

speech so I went to EI at 16 months old and he has therapy but OT for focus and

sensory. I think his sensory issues have almost but dissapeared but anyway no

speech therapy was given . I have been fighting with them to get it but they are

still hung up on when he was 16 months how delayed he was but now he is at or

above in everything except expressive speech according to his new evaluation.

They are now entertaining speech but nothing yet. I keep fighting becasue he has

no words at all but receptive is good. He never really babbled as a baby. I

didn't notice until my new little girl who is 8 weeks old coos and talks and my

husband and I were like hey our little guy never really did that. He did have a

permanent smile on his face and still does to this day. I should also say he

overstuffs when eating. He eats great never choked but a terrible chewer. He can

blow a bubble and do

raspberrys. He says some animal sounds a few we would only know what he is

saying. He can only really say the MMMM sound for " mama " and " more " HE makes the

ahhhh sound for WOW. He like Wow Wow Wubzy. Anyway so my research brought me

here but it seems no one really gets diagnosed this young. So I decided to try

PROEFA as a test to see if it brings out some babbling. We started today. How do

i know if this is just a speech delay or apraxia? My regional center is driving

me crazy with this run around. I wish I knew where else to go for answers.

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Yes. It's the one I use...

From:

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Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 12:47 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] New here

Hi, I was wondering if the " PROEPA " everyone talks about is the " EPA " on Nordic

Naturals website? the link I found is here

http://www.nordicnaturals.com/en/Products/Product_Details

/98/proddetail.php?ProdID=1498 & MainID=1414

________________________________

From: sandy lehmann <mommie2chris@...<mailto:mommie2chris%40.ca>>

To:

<mailto: %40\

>

Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2009 9:24:53 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] New here

hi,

I also have a mouth stuffer! To the point that i had to tell school when he

started that

this is the way he eats, not to worry.

We found that to this day (he's 9 now) he doesn't do meat very well due to his

inability

to chew properly. when he was 3 we had chicken for dinner one night, an hour

later i noticed

that something was in his mouth. well lo and behold it was a piece of chicken!

he didn't even

know it was in there. What i've done since then is make things like meatloaf or

sausage because

it's ground up. He's doing better with chicken, but when my husband and i have

steak, i do a sausage

for him.

Keep up with the PROEFA, that's what kick started things for us. Also, add a

PROEPA as well.

the best dosage to start now would be 2 PROEFA and 1 PROEPA. It worked wonders

for

us. At first it wasn't that he was saying actual words, it was that he started

attempting more sounds,

that in turn helped with his words later.

I would continue bugging for speech services. Don't let up. Try privately if you

can, at least

that way you'll have an evaluation to bring to the table for EI. Also, even if

nobody wants to dx

apraxia, try and find an SLP who is at least aware of it. That way treatments

will be more appropriate

and the dx will follow after that.

hth

sandy

____________ _________ _________ __

From: sleon05 <sleon05 (DOT) com>

@groups. com

Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 2:43:26 PM

Subject: [childrensapraxiane t] New here

My 24 mo old son is a puzzle to me. When he was younger I noticed the lack of

speech so I went to EI at 16 months old and he has therapy but OT for focus and

sensory. I think his sensory issues have almost but dissapeared but anyway no

speech therapy was given . I have been fighting with them to get it but they are

still hung up on when he was 16 months how delayed he was but now he is at or

above in everything except expressive speech according to his new evaluation.

They are now entertaining speech but nothing yet. I keep fighting becasue he has

no words at all but receptive is good. He never really babbled as a baby. I

didn't notice until my new little girl who is 8 weeks old coos and talks and my

husband and I were like hey our little guy never really did that. He did have a

permanent smile on his face and still does to this day. I should also say he

overstuffs when eating. He eats great never choked but a terrible chewer. He can

blow a bubble and do

raspberrys. He says some animal sounds a few we would only know what he is

saying. He can only really say the MMMM sound for " mama " and " more " HE makes the

ahhhh sound for WOW. He like Wow Wow Wubzy. Anyway so my research brought me

here but it seems no one really gets diagnosed this young. So I decided to try

PROEFA as a test to see if it brings out some babbling. We started today. How do

i know if this is just a speech delay or apraxia? My regional center is driving

me crazy with this run around. I wish I knew where else to go for answers.

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Welcome and be calm. :0) (I know it is hard.)

You have legitimate concerns, it sounds like.

With low tone, might " I " suggest getting a therapist who does the Beckman Oral

Motor method?

>

> Hi-

> I recently stumbled on this site- and seriously think I have discovered my son

is severly apraxic. (!!!)

>

> Our story quickly...

> Adam has always been hypotonic and started PT, OT, and ST at one year. He has

been tested had every medical test and no answers were found. I've always

expressed my concern about Adam not being aware of his mouth and how to use his

tongue and lips. Our ST keeps telling me she can't make him talk, he babbles,

and he'll talk eventually. After reading this site, I have to disagree!!

We've also heard a lot of words (said clearly and in the right context), never

to be heard again. Adam just turned 3, and has no words but will sign for

" more " and " all done, " and will shake his head for yes and no.

> Now I am kicking myself that I didn't get better help sooner. But can anyone

help? What should I do for my son? What speech therapy works best? Should I

try the EFA's?

> I am frantic. Thanks,

> amy, mom to Adam

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Just because it is law does not mean they do it, as we are in litigation right

now because my son is homebound and they do not want to give him in-home

services. (Despite THREE doctors letters.) In school services are not as hard,

but also we had a school practically refuse and strongly discourage us from

bringing our son when he was 3. (Who wants to leave their child where they are

not wanted?)

> Yep I'm in the US. But unfortunately preschool is considered optional and

they only have to provide appropriate education that the law requires. And the

law here in PA technically doens't require children to be in school until age 8.

So anything before that the school district is of the opinion they dont have to,

so they wont. Now if she is enrolled in Kindergarden when she's 5, then they'll

start working with her becuase she's in the system already and that would be

discrimination if they dont. So until she's 5 we're on our own. Luckily the

county has wonderful programs for younger kids with their therapies, they're

teamed with with ARC and United Cerebral Palsy.

>

> Toni

> [ ] Re: New here

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>

> Toni,

>

> Welcome!

>

> Assuming you are in the US. Your school district has to provide an

> appropriate education for your kids. If it means out districting then

> get your ducks in a row and have them pay.

>

> denise

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Hi !

I know it's confusing but there are two lines for Nordic -the commercial line

and the professional line. On the Nordic site you'll only find the ProEPA under

" Doctors/Medical " and for some reason the only " Pro " product available to the

public on Nordic's site is the ProEFA. Other than that you can not order the

Pro line direct from Nordic unless you are a medical professional.

In general the Pro line is a bit more economical than the commercial line which

is the only difference. Also the ProEFA comes wth 90 capsules per bottle to the

Omega 369's 60.

You can find the commercial line (like the " EPA " ) in stores like Whole Foods and

online. You can also find the Pro line such as ProEPA and ProEFA online. You

will typically find a better price outside of Nordic as I happen to know most of

the authorized Nordic merchants are allowed to offer a set percentage

discount...and 'some' offer free shipping as well :-)

May want to take a peek at http://www.speech411.com

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Marilyn, I'll leave treatment advice up to others except to have your sister or

whomever is in contact with the Oncologist, ask whether or not the chemotherapy

is to 'cure' or simply Palliative? If to 'cure' then the question of what

percentage of people has this Oncologist cured for more than five years? Be

very specific in order to get specific answers.

The answer may help her to make an informed decision.

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If the colon cancer has spread to the liver, it is, by definition, stage 4. If

it is all over the liver, it is, by definition, very advanced stage 4.

I too have stage 4 colon cancer, but I don't know how widespread it is. (As far

as I know it might be gone by now!) 9 months ago my doctor told me that there

was nothing they could do for me, but perhaps extend my life for a year or so

with chemo.

My choice was that this was not acceptable to me. Given that the doctors gave

me odds of zero percent, I figured that alternative methods offered higher odds.

So that is how I am going.

But I cannot tell you what to do. I just went by cold hard odds. Zero percent

with chemo, and apparently higher odds, from what I've read, with alternative

approaches.

What can I say?

Oh yes -- there IS apparently currently a cure for colon cancer. But it will

not enter human trials until the end of 2010. It is the gold nanano-particle

approach, and it works by all evidence so far.

My goal is to (at the least) hang on until 2011 or 2012 when this technology may

become available.

>

> My sister recently found out she had colon cancer that has spread to her

liver. Her liver is completely covered. She doesn't know if she wants to do the

chemo just yet. She's looking at all areas. We all have the spiritual support

from our church family and praying for healing or guidance for the right

decision.

> Any information would be awesome.

> Thanks for taking the time to read this.

> God Bless!

> Marilyn

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-Hi , I am caregiver to my husband who has stage III colon cancer.

Conventional treatment for colon cancer liver mets is very invasive,

it can involve neoadjuvant chemo with the intent of shrinking tumors

and make the disease resectable...also, a treatment called Sir-Spheres can be

used.Some patients survive this treatment and are put into remission, but

very rarely the remission is long lasting and many patients relapse quickly.

In holistic approach, special diet (Budwig and the like) is mandatory,

also, energy medecine and detoxification...

There are many, many non-conventional treatments that have been

associated with curing cancer , but every patient is different

and a treatment protocol cannot be used for everyman.

I am familiar with some alternative therapies used in my country

and in Europe, in the US there are other therapies...

I do not know if and how these non conventional therapies have been

evaluated, generally there are only anecdotal case-histories.

Conventional therapies are evaluated with randomized controlled trials

and these trials are published, therefore we know for sure that

the conventional treatment is palliative and very toxic...

good luck with your choices

karla

-- In , " amazing_grace1962 " <macn@...> wrote:

>

> My sister recently found out she had colon cancer that has spread to her

liver. Her liver is completely covered. She doesn't know if she wants to do the

chemo just yet. She's looking at all areas. We all have the spiritual support

from our church family and praying for healing or guidance for the right

decision.

> Any information would be awesome.

> Thanks for taking the time to read this.

> God Bless!

> Marilyn

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Bonnie, the patient insert for Humira clearly states that a rare event is

multiple sclerosis-like symptoms. It's my understanding they almost always go

away once the drug is stopped. Yes, you should take this seriously but don't

panic.

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Thank you for your reply. Right now the odds for my sister is very slim from the

doctor. So she is looking for other options. Please share what alternative

methods you are using.

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Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009

If the colon cancer has spread to the liver, it is, by definition, stage 4. If

it is all over the liver, it is, by definition, very advanced stage 4.

I too have stage 4 colon cancer, but I don't know how widespread it is. (As

far as I know it might be gone by now!) 9 months ago my doctor told me that

there was nothing they could do for me, but perhaps extend my life for a year or

so with chemo.

My choice was that this was not acceptable to me. Given that the doctors gave

me odds of zero percent, I figured that alternative methods offered higher odds.

So that is how I am going.

But I cannot tell you what to do. I just went by cold hard odds. Zero percent

with chemo, and apparently higher odds, from what I've read, with alternative

approaches....

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My sister is looking all areas. Thanks for your information.

I wish you and your husband the best!

From: minolfa

Hi , I am caregiver to my husband who has stage III colon cancer.

Conventional treatment for colon cancer liver mets is very invasive,

it can involve neoadjuvant chemo with the intent of shrinking tumors

and make the disease resectable...also, a treatment called Sir-Spheres can be

used.Some patients survive this treatment and are put into remission, but very

rarely the remission is long lasting and many patients relapse quickly.

In holistic approach, special diet (Budwig and the like) is mandatory, also,

energy medecine and detoxification.....

good luck with your choices

karla

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I believe that - if you read the precautions included with any of the biologics,

you will find that they can cause MS type symptoms that go away pretty quickly

after you go off the drug. Check your warning labels (if you didn't keep them,

you can find them on-line) and let your eye doctor know immediately. Also

contact your rheumatologist immediately (I assume you have one); it may not be

MS but the MS type symptoms and if it is, you will need to stop the offending

drug(s) immediately before permanent damage is done.

Joanna Hoelscher

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Thanks for your reply. Yes I've read the warnings several times on the Humira,

but i never thought it would be me. But then again with my crazy diagnostic

luck, I should have thought better of that idea-ha.

If thats the case, I wonder what are the alternatives for medications? I have

to be on something. My doctor tried to cut my Arava to every other day, and it

was just a couple of weeks before my hips hurt so bad I could barely walk- (and

I was on Humira too). So now I'm back on the everyday schedule.

Bonnie

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Bonnie - both Enbrel and Remicade are TNF-alpha inhibitors like Humira and have

similar possible side effects. There is a new biological on the horizon,

approved in Europe already as Stelara, which most doctors expect to be approved

in the U.S. sometime this summer. It addresses a different part of the immune

system - IL-23 - and may not have the same effects as the TNF-alpha inhibitors.

That may be an option for you once it's approved. In fact it's being tested to

treat MS as well as PA. Ask your doctor about it - it's actual name is

ustekinumab.

" S. Zorzi " <szorzi_1999@...>

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> Hi after exploring Bee's incredibly informative website I have joined this

group. I have had horribly debilitating health problems and when I was detoxing

mercury I remember learning a thing or two about candida. Now I am ready to

focus on it directly. I haven't started anything yet but I was thinking of

doing the coconut oil with the oregano oil. I don't know if I can follow that

diet perfectly. How long does a person have to eat like that for the candida to

go away?

+++Hi there. Welcome to our group. What is your name please?

You wouldn't start with oregano oil; only start with unrefined coconut oil,

which is the best antifungal and part of my diet.

Please ensure you read these two articles which explains my program, and how to

get started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

It takes 1 month of natural healing for every year you've been unhealthy, and

for most people nowadays that is since before they were born.

For encouragement see these Success Stories by members of this group:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee

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Hi, my name is . My question is more so directed at how long it takes to be

on the diet of no grain, fruit, dairy, bacon etc and the antifungals before the

candida is overcome. If I have had health problems my whole life, do I have to

be on this diet for 36 months? I already know that won't happen. A month or so

maybe. I have been eating natural meat(including grassfed) and organic foods for

five years now with very limited sugar intake (special occasions with stuff like

maple syrup and agave syrup sweetened) but I do very much like yogurt, kefir,

berries, sprouted grains and bacon from whole foods which is smoked and

therefore advised against. For a while I was on a coconut kick but got

completely sick of the flavor to where I haven't had coconut oil in about a

year. I am trying to address this assumption that I have candida based on the

questionaire. My issues are complex and I look at healing holistically and being

consumed about food again is a step back in healing for me but I am interested

in making some middle of the road changes like adding some antifungals and

temporarily giving up some yogurt and sprouted grains.

-- In , " Bee " <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

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>

> >

> > Hi after exploring Bee's incredibly informative website I have joined this

group. I have had horribly debilitating health problems and when I was detoxing

mercury I remember learning a thing or two about candida. Now I am ready to

focus on it directly. I haven't started anything yet but I was thinking of

doing the coconut oil with the oregano oil. I don't know if I can follow that

diet perfectly. How long does a person have to eat like that for the candida to

go away?

>

> +++Hi there. Welcome to our group. What is your name please?

>

> You wouldn't start with oregano oil; only start with unrefined coconut oil,

which is the best antifungal and part of my diet.

>

> Please ensure you read these two articles which explains my program, and how

to get started:

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

> http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

>

> It takes 1 month of natural healing for every year you've been unhealthy, and

for most people nowadays that is since before they were born.

>

> For encouragement see these Success Stories by members of this group:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

>

> The best in health, Bee

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Hi ,

When Bee refers to natural healing, she is meaning her entire program (diet +

supplements, including antifungals like coconut oil, etc.), therefore, like she

wrote, it will take 1 month for every year you have been ill in order for your

body to heal. You will need to be on this program for 36 months if you are 36

years old and have been unhealthy your entire life.

Unfortunately, there are no quick fixes when it comes to true health, and being

on the diet only a couple of months, doing only a few 'middle of the road

changes' will not heal your candida overgrowth. This program focuses on

building up the immune system and that takes time and the right

foods/supplements. If you start to reintroduce toxic foods or foods, like

sugar, that feed candida, after a month or two you will just continue to feed it

and your symptoms will come back.

We all like(d) the foods you describe, but they are what got us into this mess

in the first place. Everyone with candida suffers from a sugar addiction.

Focusing on your diet is the *only* way to get your body healthy again, so you

shouldn't look at it as taking a step backwards. In fact, it's a step forward.

If you are sick of the flavour of coconut oil, you could try the

expeller-pressed coconut oil that has many of the same benefits, but does not

have the coconut flavour. Tropical Traditions is a good brand that has

flavourless expeller-pressed oil.

I would encourage you to give this program a try. I, too, will need 36 months

on this program. I have been on it for 10 months now and that time has gone by

quickly. I feel so much better now and in fact I barely recognize myself

anymore. I'm not the same girl who could barely get out of bed only to nap all

day on the couch anymore. This is really a life-changing program!

Good luck!

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> Hi, my name is . My question is more so directed at how long it takes to

be on the diet of no grain, fruit, dairy, bacon etc and the antifungals before

the candida is overcome. If I have had health problems my whole life, do I have

to be on this diet for 36 months? I already know that won't happen. A month or

so maybe. I have been eating natural meat(including grassfed) and organic foods

for five years now with very limited sugar intake (special occasions with stuff

like maple syrup and agave syrup sweetened) but I do very much like yogurt,

kefir, berries, sprouted grains and bacon from whole foods which is smoked and

therefore advised against. For a while I was on a coconut kick but got

completely sick of the flavor to where I haven't had coconut oil in about a

year. I am trying to address this assumption that I have candida based on the

questionaire. My issues are complex and I look at healing holistically and being

consumed about food again is a step back in healing for me but I am interested

in making some middle of the road changes like adding some antifungals and

temporarily giving up some yogurt and sprouted grains.

>

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> If I have had health problems my whole life, do I have to be on this

> diet for 36 months? I already know that won't happen. A month or so

> maybe. . . My issues are complex and I look at healing holistically

> and being consumed about food again is a step back in healing for me

> but I am interested in making some middle of the road changes like

> adding some antifungals and temporarily giving up some yogurt and

> sprouted grains.

Once upon a time, there was a lady who was in debt. She had credit card bills,

household bills, car payments, etc. And it was getting WORSE every month. She

was very UNCOMFORTABLE.

Her friends told her about the great veterinary clinic in their neighborhood

that was hiring people to be veterinary nutritional advisors. All you needed to

do was get your Masters Degree in Veterinary Nutrition, and you'd have an

excellent career for life. Several people had already done it – there were many

SUCCESS STORIES about them. They were feeling SO GOOD, and had a bright future

ahead of them.

The lady was a lover of animals and food, and realized this would be a great way

to get out of debt. A career she would love for the rest of her life and NO MORE

pain or discomfort of debt.

But she was 36 years old. She said she didn't have 3 years to invest in going

back to college. And she was so ADDICTED to her current lifestyle, even if it

was causing more and more DISCOMFORT every day. She said it would be taking a

step backwards.

She said she was willing to read some books for a month, tops, and maybe even be

willing to attend one class, but she didn't want to invest any more time into

her comfort or happiness or her future than that. And she definitely didn't want

to make any long-term changes in the way she lived, even though she was getting

more and more UNCOMFORTABLE every day.

Of course you know what happened. A year later she was more in debt than ever,

and in much greater DISCOMFORT because of it. Her friends were one year into the

process and were feeling so hopeful and happy already. They had already

experienced wonderful changes in their lives. They had proven to themselves that

they had power and control in their lives, and that felt so excellent. They

could see a bright future ahead of them – FREE OF PAIN, and open to so many NEW

OPPORTUNITIES in life.

Moral of the Story: Sometimes it's hard to see the bondage in our lives.

Sometimes we can't see that we're TIED TO, ADDICTED TO foods that are unhealthy

for us, and no matter how much DISCOMFORT our eating habits cause us, we're not

willing to take the time or energy to change. And that's a shame, because it

means that the food is in control of us, and we're not in control of the food.

So many of us are SCARED to give up some foods we've become addicted to – and we

can't even imagine a life without them. It's time we started looking at food

differently. It's time we started to realize that there needs to be more

important things in our lives than food that causes us to be unhealthy.

We all deserve to look forward to a future of COMFORT and OPPORTUNITIES. But

FIRST we have to BE ABLE to see that making a change in our eating habits is a

GOOD THING, not a punishment.

Lis

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I would question the interpretation of her testing. The profile for someone with a learning problem is having high scores mixed with low scores. There is no such thing as "too smart" to have a learning disability. I am not sure why that myth still exists. Many people with learning disabilities are extremely smart. My ds is one example of many - he has HFA and is gifted at the same time. He has Learning problems in many areas but pockets of strengths that are amazing. It is such a mixed bag. One issue that is rather common for people with autism is to have skills that are uneven.

You might consider requesting an "IEE" (independent educational evaluation) which is an evaluation that the school pays for with someone outside of the school system - a neutral 3rd party. That way you can get (hopefully) someone to evaluate her scores correctly and give you an idea of what kinds of help she needs.

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Hi, I'm kinda new here. I joined a while ago because my oldest granddaughter is an auspie. She is over 23 now so out of my hands mostly. She just got a real job and I am hoping this will be good for her. It is the kind of job where each thing is delineated and she can be told exactly what to do in every situation. This is just what she needs. She gets totally lost when it comes to living in the real world of decision making and initiating action. My problem now is her youngest sister, 16 yrs. I have had to do much of the raising of the 4 sisters since my daughter became incapacitated due to drugs and other addictions. I have had DGD (dear granddaughter) for 3 years now. She is much like her older sister but because the older one is so obviously disabled it made it hard to see this one's disabilities. She was tested last year and got an IEP but not a 504. They said she was just too smart. She was off the charts in some areas and way below in others. They can't help. It is an alternative high school. Of course all the teachers are also auspies ;) not really but maybe borderline. She has been failing most things for years now and it looked like some oppositional things but reading here makes me wonder. She definitely has attachment issues because both her parents have abandoned her. Lately she has taken a turn for the worse and I'm worried. We are presently getting her some neurofeedback, a series of 20 treatments that might help her be more in balance in her brain. The last year has been bad where she seems to be withdrawing into her own little world of fantasy. She brags a lot too. Does anyone have that problem? One more thing, she did have a job for several months and had a very good attitude with work. We had decided that if worse comes to worse at least she could get a job and not starve. So I just want to see what I might learn here. Thanks for listening.Jill

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Hi, we did ABA with my now 12 yo ds with great success. We started his program at age 3. Yes, it is a good program for kids at any age and not just for kids under 3. It is a way to teach, a methodology. It isn't just one program. They evaluate where the child is at and then go step by step through the skills process, teaching by breaking things down into single steps and then stringing them together. It can also be called "discrete trial" because each learning "moment" or "session" is a discrete trial. You have a specific thing to teach, a specific response you want to see, a specific goal. Each time you present the material and get a response it is called a "trial." You reward correct responses because doing so encourages that correct response again. Then you also work, once the skill is mastered, to generalize that skill into ones real life.

It is also a great way to teach because it assumes that if the kid is not learning something, you have to evaluate why and change directions or find a way to teach them that will connect. You don't just keep throwing the same thing at the person in the same way until it sticks. You have to constantly take data and evaluate what is working, what is not working, etc. In many schools, they teach by providing information and also by letting kids make assumptions and mistakes. But ABA is completely opposite. You don't wait for the person to make a mistake. You provide correct information up front and teach it. It can be applied to anything you want to teach - from learning to look when ones name is called to teaching how to add and subtract or how to write a paper, how to make the bed, anything.

It worked so well for my own ds because he needed specific instruction. Like many people with autism, he wasn't learning by watching others or being exposed to situations. He's very smart and a fast learner but he was missing so much in skills and information. So we went through things systematically and he did great with it.

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( ) New here> > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 4:49 AM> > > > > > > Hello,> I just wanted to introduce myself. I am a mom to a recently dx'ed HFA son who's 3 1/2. I'm still going through all the emotional stuff, while trying to find him services in an area with surprisingly few available! I am also trying to figure out just how much needs, since his dx is HFA I do not think he needs 40+ hours per week. > I can see this is a lively group, and I'm sure I'll be posting lots as I try to find my way through it all.> > TJ>

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