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Hi and Everyone,

I took Yoga before I got sick, and am hoping to go back to the class. The

class I took was called the Healing Oasis, and it focused on breathing and

relaxation. I truly believe that the class helped. I hope to go back soon,

Carol

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Karol,

I have extreme progressive PsA; only diagnosed in June 2008 and already need

help with just walking.  I take Humira injections every week and 50mg of

Prednisone daily for almost 5 months now and I really have not been able to tell

a difference yet.  Have you or anyone out there encountered anyone with extreme

progressive PsA?  If so, please email me back.

Thanks,

Sherry

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Karol...

it's hard to get a handle on anything when coming off prednisone. I used to

take it all the time and even 5mg. made me feel great...I'd say depending on

where you live and the season of the year might be a great help. I live in

northwest Indiana on the southern shores of Lake Michigan...we can have three

different types of weather in a 24 hour period. Late October through mid

December can be brutal as well as mid February through April...I find that as I

get older my body is like a weather predicting machine.

As the barometric pressure fluctuates so does the severity of discomfort...as a

storm or weather system approaches I feel like crap but then once it is upon

us...the icky feeling subsides and I feel more " normal " .

I must also confess that as I am 48 now and interestingly enough went into a

post menopausal state without going through menopause. I just started to feel

all emotional...weepy...bitchy kinda like when I was pregnant long ago...had my

rheumy run some blood work and it came up post menopausal. Needless to say it

explained a lot about how I had been feeling...went to see a kinesiologist and

he put me on an hebal supplement. It has made me feel much more in control and

stopped all the emotional nonsense and the feelings of sadness and loss...being

a woman is tricky business.

Sorry to have gone off on such a sidebar here but I feel that as women we

experience PA and most everything else a wee bit differently than men.

So I'd just thought I'd throw that out there...hope you are taking calcium and

vitamin D with that prednisone as it will do a number on your bones...stay

strong and come on warmer weather!!!

Kathy

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Strawberries have very high concentrations of pesticides.

Jaco

> From: spinedoc55 <spinedoc55@...>

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flare up

> low dose naltrexone

> Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 11:13 PM

> My 14 year old has been on LDN (for ulcerative colitis) for

> 5 months and was doing great then suddenly started to flare

> with his usual symptoms: first severe abdominal pain and

> then after a few days of being totally in severe pain, the D

> starts. I used LDN to get him off pred and 6MP and it worked

> for 5 months. Now we are back to pred again. I decided I

> couldn't stand to see him in such pain anymore and pred

> is the only med that seems to work so I started him on 30

> mg. It helps and he can start eating again and functioning.

> My plan is to lower the pred until 10 mg and start him on

> the LDN again and hope and pray he can get off the pred

> again. He is also on azulfidine. He has been on SCD for 3

> years and it always seems to be when we try a new food that

> he flares -- has been on a very strict SCD. But was doing so

> well with the LDN that I thought we could try some

> strawberries... or is it a combination of stresses and diet

> and something like change of weather...So frustrating...

> Judy

>

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This is from Dr. McCandless -

I'm sure no need to mention eliminate ALL refined sugar (if you love it, it isyour yeast screaming, "SUGAR, SUGAR, SUGAR!!!". Even too much fruit sugar is bad,

especially strawberries, watermelon, pineapple, and ripe bananas, and no appleor grape products, as yeast love these fruits. Acceptable fruits are kiwi, pears, and berries in season except for strawberries.

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Strawberries have very high concentrations of pesticides.Jaco> From: spinedoc55 <spinedoc55@optonlin e.net>> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] flare up> low dose naltrexone> Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 11:13 PM> My 14 year old has been on LDN (for ulcerative colitis) for> 5 months and was doing great then suddenly started to flare> with his usual symptoms: first severe abdominal pain and> then after a few days of

being totally in severe pain, the D> starts. I used LDN to get him off pred and 6MP and it worked> for 5 months. Now we are back to pred again. I decided I> couldn't stand to see him in such pain anymore and pred> is the only med that seems to work so I started him on 30> mg. It helps and he can start eating again and functioning.> My plan is to lower the pred until 10 mg and start him on> the LDN again and hope and pray he can get off the pred> again. He is also on azulfidine. He has been on SCD for 3> years and it always seems to be when we try a new food that> he flares -- has been on a very strict SCD. But was doing so> well with the LDN that I thought we could try some> strawberries. .. or is it a combination of stresses and diet> and something like change of weather...So frustrating. ..> Judy> > > > ------------ ---------

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I'm always in some kind of pain but when I'm having a flare it gets intense and

if mine doesn't resolve it self in 48 hours then I know I need something extra

to get it under control and I take prednisone.

Celeste

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I consider a flare any time my pain or swelling or stiffness increases. It can

happen for a number of reasons - an infection, an allergy, coming off a med,

delay in taking a med, bad weather, stress, doing too much, not resting enough,

etc.

So yes, tapering off prednisone can cause a flare, hopefully a mild one. Let

your doctor know if the pain level is unacceptable - he may slow your taper.

" S. Zorzi " <szorzi_1999@...>

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> My 14 year old has been on LDN (for ulcerative colitis) for 5 months and was

doing great then suddenly started to flare with his usual symptoms: first severe

abdominal pain and then after a few days of being totally in severe pain, the D

starts. I used LDN to get him off pred and 6MP and it worked for 5 months. Now

we are back to pred again. I decided I couldn't stand to see him in such pain

anymore and pred is the only med that seems to work so I started him on 30 mg.

It helps and he can start eating again and functioning. My plan is to lower the

pred until 10 mg and start him on the LDN again and hope and pray he can get off

the pred again. He is also on azulfidine. He has been on SCD for 3 years and it

always seems to be when we try a new food that he flares -- has been on a very

strict SCD. But was doing so well with the LDN that I thought we could try some

strawberries... or is it a combination of stresses and diet and something like

change of weather...So frustrating... Judy

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Have you had his yeast load checked? Steroids cause candida yeast overgrowth

and sugar from strawberries can be bad for an anti-candida program.

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Karol,

When I start to have a flare up the first thing I notice is extreme fatigue.

Usually sometime during that day my joints start to swell and hurt more. My skin

starts acting up the next day usually. Thats just my personal experience. I see

flare ups as my body telling me that somewhere I am doing too much and it is

stressed in some way.

You should talk with your physician about any possible connection between the

sacroiliitis and PA. It can be difficult for us to recognize that every pain we

have may not be PA, and should be checked by the physician.

Learning to cope without steroids is a stressful thing for the body. I've been

taking Humira for 6 months now and it has really helped me. However I am still

learning to balance my activity. On those days when I'm feeling 'normal' i tend

to do too much and wind up useless for 2 or 3 days. So, pace yourself.

Blessings,

Dawn

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Diseases like Crohns and UC can go into remission for periods of time.

That makes it hard to know if something is working

or your just in remission at the time.

Jeanette

Bren wrote:

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>> My 14 year old has been on LDN (for ulcerative colitis) for 5 months and was

doing great then suddenly started to flare with his usual symptoms: first severe

abdominal pain and then after a few days of being totally in severe pain, the D

starts. I used LDN to get him off pred and 6MP and it worked for 5 months. Now

we are back to pred again. I decided I couldn't stand to see him in such pain

anymore and pred is the only med that seems to work so I started him on 30 mg.

It helps and he can start eating again and functioning. My plan is to lower the

pred until 10 mg and start him on the LDN again and hope and pray he can get off

the pred again. He is also on azulfidine. He has been on SCD for 3 years and it

always seems to be when we try a new food that he flares -- has been on a very

strict SCD. But was doing so well with the LDN that I thought we could try some

strawberries... or is it a combination of stresses and diet and something like

change of weather...So frustrating... Judy

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> Have you had his yeast load checked? Steroids cause candida yeast overgrowth

and sugar from strawberries can be bad for an anti-candida program.

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Hi Judy

Sad that your son has a flare up - having Crohn's myself and using LDN as well,

I earlier had to to take Prenisone during flare-up's - same dose, 30mg's for few

days, then tapering off slowly - my personal, experienced advice would be:

continue LDN anyway - there is no direct conflict or risk of adverse reactions,

just that LDN MAY loose some efficiency - but not ALL of it - so please continue

LDN throughout the Pred-cure - please also considerate if your son has any

Candida-issues - I have (or had) - the last 8 months I've been fighting this

bugger seriously - not 100% clear yet, but MUCH BETTER - and NO NEED for Pred

any longer :o))

Best Wishes

" The Norwegian "

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> My 14 year old has been on LDN (for ulcerative colitis) for 5 months and was

doing great then suddenly started to flare with his usual symptoms: first severe

abdominal pain and then after a few days of being totally in severe pain, the D

starts. I used LDN to get him off pred and 6MP and it worked for 5 months. Now

we are back to pred again. I decided I couldn't stand to see him in such pain

anymore and pred is the only med that seems to work so I started him on 30 mg.

It helps and he can start eating again and functioning. My plan is to lower the

pred until 10 mg and start him on the LDN again and hope and pray he can get off

the pred again. He is also on azulfidine. He has been on SCD for 3 years and it

always seems to be when we try a new food that he flares -- has been on a very

strict SCD. But was doing so well with the LDN that I thought we could try some

strawberries... or is it a combination of stresses and diet and something like

change of weather...So frustrating... Judy

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If you have Crohn’s (I can’t speak for Colitis), it’s

not unusual to “flare” when you try a new food, however benign you

may think it might be. Having had Crohn’s for nearly 30 years I’ve

found that my gut (and I suspect a lot of people’s) likes what it’s

used to, even if what it’s used to is bad for it.

If one is three or four meds they may not necessarily be working

in concert. That alone would cause my body to go nuts (but I’m quite drug

sensitive in general). Just curious: why would a person not stay on LDN all

the time? From everything I’ve read it needs to be taken constantly and pretty

much indefinitely.

It’s not likely it’s the LDN that’s causing

the flare. It’s whatever new food is introduced. Which one’s body

will either adjust to over some days or a few weeks, or not. Strawberries

can be killers (not literally, I would hope, but in terms of pain). They’re

full of tiny seeds that can wreak havoc in/on a tender gut. They were one

of the first things I tried, along with yogurt, after my first Crohn’s

surgery and they made my intestines feel like they were ripping apart and

turning inside out.

n,

also on the SCD

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[mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Jeanette

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 11:04 AM

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: flare up

Diseases like Crohns and UC can go into

remission for periods of time.

That makes it hard to know if something is working

or your just in remission at the time.

Jeanette

Bren wrote:

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>> My 14 year old has been on LDN (for ulcerative colitis) for 5 months

and was doing great then suddenly started to flare with his usual symptoms:

first severe abdominal pain and then after a few days of being totally in

severe pain, the D starts. I used LDN to get him off pred and 6MP and it worked

for 5 months. Now we are back to pred again. I decided I couldn't stand to see

him in such pain anymore and pred is the only med that seems to work so I

started him on 30 mg. It helps and he can start eating again and functioning.

My plan is to lower the pred until 10 mg and start him on the LDN again and

hope and pray he can get off the pred again. He is also on azulfidine. He has

been on SCD for 3 years and it always seems to be when we try a new food that

he flares -- has been on a very strict SCD. But was doing so well with the LDN

that I thought we could try some strawberries... or is it a combination of

stresses and diet and something like change of weather...So frustrating... Judy

>> ============

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> Have you had his yeast load checked? Steroids cause candida yeast

overgrowth and sugar from strawberries can be bad for an anti-candida program.

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Kathy, I was so glad to see you talk about menopause. I don't see it discussed

that much and it is affected by PA just as much as any other system of our

bodies. I had a very early menopause and I feel it was because the PA was

already coming on and stressed my body. Sorry you men out there, but we need to

talk more about this. ha!

Deanna

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Karol,

Sorry for replying so late.  I have extreme PA. According to my rheumy, Dr.

Partrick Knibbe, the second worst case that he has every personally known of. 

The bad news is that there is a lot of trail and error finding out what

works.  There is not one set solution that works for everyone.  Also be aware,

that the medical community can only do so much for individuals such as us.  You

will have to be very pro-active in finding solutions within your own lifestyle

that affect the condition.  I do not care what any doctor and anyone else says

but lifestyle, diet, sleep patterns, career, personal relationships have a huge

impact on what will happen to you in the future.  Stress is one of biggest

factors in setting off flares.  Then that leads to pain, which leads to more

flares.  Dr. Knibbe taught me this: He painted a picture in my mind, that the

disease works in a circular fashion.  the disease itself, then pain and stress

(or call it the

emotional aspect of it. however outside stress factors just as equally can

contribute to setting off flares) So one off the greatest lessons he taught me

was to stop the cycle). Remember anyone of three can trigger the cycle. Pain

management is so important.  I have learn to manage the pain with the pain

medication that works for me.  Not all pain medications are effective for me.

1) I NEVER let the pain get out of control. 

2) Stress: over the years I have just found out that if something causes me

stress  I have to take action.  Let's say a friend or someone I am dealing with

in business.  I have learned to be very polite and tell them that their

behavior causes me a lot of stress which affects my health.  If the person

listens and understand that I have very serious health issue and understands

great.  But if not then I let them know that our dealings are

terminated. PERIOD!

  Don't contact me again, ever. This was very hard at first but I am just blunt

about now.  Going on with this issue,  I found that exercise is the # 1 thing

that I can to control the stress levels. Additionally this also helps

tremendously with pain as well.  Something, yoga, tai chi, swimming, whatever

works for YOU, is the right exercise.  One cannot make the excuse that,  well

I am hurting from a flare so I will not exercise.  That is the time to really do

it. Easier said than done for sure. However you will have to make that call

yourself. Do you want to have less pain and keep the flares under control or

not? Your decision.  No doctor can do this for you.  No amount of medication can

make up for this.  In fact when I am exercising regularly I require much less

medication. That's a fact. More pills or more exercise, which do you prefer?

3) Flares;  Here also Dr. Knibbe told me the cold hard reality if I am having a

flare, say a really bad one.  The best prescription he ever wrote for me was one

that required NO medication. I just have to take a time out from life. Your body

is attacking itself.  I will cancel activities, limit my work as much as

possible, even time take off from work if I can, and just chill. Get plenty of

sleep, take naps, exercise.  I could go on but I the bottom line is that I just

take a time out from life and let the flare run its course.  This part for me is

all about smart disease management.  Once again a doctor cannot do this for

you.  You just have to find out what works for you.

Make some form of a journal. I use a calender and track my flares.  The reason I

use the calender is that I can also follow what else is going on in my life.

This helps me look back at my activities and see if there is pattern that is

setting off my flares.

I have more information that might be helpful to you but I gotta go right now.

Hopefully this was helpful and good luck.

Take care

  S. Carrington

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Hi All,

I just wanted to express some thoughts I had after reading e-mail. I

understand and agree with some ideas but not all.

First, being a worst case. I'm not sure what that means. When I hear those

words I picture someone in a wheelchair with very crippled and gnarled hands,

feet, spine, etc. If this is the case then I wish there was some miracle drug.

But on the other hand if the person is still working I wonder where that leaves

me because, I've been off work for 2yrs now and I am not expected to return.

Next, I too find some exercise very helpful but when my hands, feet or back

start aching I was told to stop what I'm doing and rest. The more I try to do

things or exercise the more pain I have--whats that all about???? I do agree to

ride out the flares and take meds that satisfy regular pain.

Lastly, I try to change me and not so much my surroundings when it comes to

stress. Some stress cannot be avoided so I prefer to learn better coping skills

and change my attitude because chances of changing other people is slim to none.

I would like to hear others ideas on the above mentioned.

Maybe we should be looking forward to the great weather thats just around the

corner and thinking of the nice warm days we can at least sit outside for a

change.

Also, has anyone tried salazopyrin (sulfasalazine)? These drugs scare me to

death but I'm having more problems so I have to try something. Please advise.

Thank you and all my best.

SD

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, what an excellent post! The only thing I would adjust slightly is about

the exercise. You are right that being in pain from a flare is no excuse for

not exercising, however you must choose the exercise wisely. Anything

weight-bearing on the feet can cause the feet to flare terribly. Both my rheumy

and my physical therapist have advised me that I can walk briskly as long as it

does not cause a flare but no jogging or running. This was difficult to accept

as I was training for a half-marathon when I was diagnosed. Also for me, no more

bench dips as it puts too much strain on my badly affected wrists. It's a good

idea to check with your own physician for advice as to what type of exercise is

appropriate for your particular situation. Some people have existing joint

damage which may preclude some forms of exercise.

" S. Zorzi " <szorzi_1999@...>

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May I ask what exercises you do do with your foot. I have to get in some

shape but cant figure out how to get the upper half of my body and my upper

leg area in shape.

Jolene

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Clarification;

There are going to be links below here for all the suffer when walking.  I

really hope that they well benefit others as much as they benefit me.  Go

Z-Coil! And S. Zorzi you are right on the money about your comments concerning

exercising.  Actually I think that the group should start trying to focus on

this issue more and support each other.  Like I said it is easier said then

done.  Of course when there is a bad flare who in the heck whats to go to the

pool or gym?! Much easier for me to have another pot of coffee and 2 more

lortabs:) But hey more exercise or less pills.  It is an individual choice.

Actually I was in a wheel chair for years and would still be but for these shoes

that I found.  Here is the website for all

http://www.zcoil.com/

I have no right ankle.  That's correct and the foot is fused at a 90 degree

angle with no movement.  The removal the right ankle makes my right leg a little

more then 1 " shorter then the left. Since it is fused it is impossible to walk

normal.  Imagine taking a piece of string to your toes and pulling back and

walking on your heel.  I had to go through 9 months of PT for gait training. 

However I will say that no doctor provided me a solution I had to be pro-active

and go out and find a solution to the problem.  I used MBT shoes at first: Here

is their website: http://www.swissmasai.it/.  However whether due to PA or

walking on my heel now the bones on my heel have collapsed, so the foot is now

bent to the right.  I do not know how much " gnarled "   a joint could get then

that.  It is gross to look it.  Without Remicade there is no way I could go on

living.  Remicade is a miracle drug for me.  Why it works so well I do not know.

However, for me I have had a bit luck in that the University of Utah happens to

be one of the leading research centers on PA.  I have had 13 major surgeries and

will be requiring more.  If not for the z-coil shoes, there is no way I would be

able to function, without  a wheelchair. However at home I do use a wheelchair

and I am sitting in it right now.  PA is in my family, my younger cousin died at

38 years old due to complications from it.  Individuals with serve PA should be

aware this can kill you.  That I am alive is a miracle.  Having said that my

rheumy Dr. Knibbe is the one who taught me so many of the points that I passing

along.  At first I did not what to hear it.  Just give me a pill.  We would

actually butts heads, because it took him about 4 years to get me to realize

that, hey I either take control of this issue or over a 4 or 5 year period I

will die a very painful and miserable death.  He was just blunt about. I

thought he was being rude.  I have never as of yet come across anyone out here

in this area that anyone in the medical community knows of that has a more serve

case then I do. But hey what does it matter?  Just to let the gentlemen know

express some doubts as the severity of my case, I also have uveitis in my right

eye, which has required three surgeries and I cannot remember how shots of

steroids I have had in that eye. What a freaking feeling the first few times

that I had some one take a needle to my eye.  So if I am not having any flares

in the rest of my body and let's say that I did not have the ankle issue, just

dealing with uveitis is a pain because the flares in the eye and the rest of

body function separately.  I have flares in the my right eye so bad that I will

have to take massive doses of predisone to just calm it down.  Massive doses for

me would be 90 mg for up 7 days in row.  What a drag, everything is could be

somewhat

stable and then here comes a extreme flare in the eye. Imagine trying to drive

to the store. The pain is incredible.  Then I have to take diazepam so prevent

becoming a mental basket case. Sounds fun huh?  So how does one function

with all this insanity? Here is how I do it.

1) lifestyle management

2) disease management.

So just to clarify, if someone can find a doc to do those two things for you,

good luck.

Personally I have now come to the this.  The doctors work for me  and are just

one part of my team for disease management. 

Other suggestions that I have that work for me are message, chiropractic,

de-toxic and I juice. By juicing I am good old veggies.  I cannot believe what a

difference juicing has on me.

3) building healthier relationships with others that understand I have a very

serious disease.  This part blows my mind because from my experience people

either get it or don't.  Really it's black or white.  There have been people

, even family that treat me like some type freak and put a guilt trip on

me.  Over the last ten years I have to just realize that I eliminate those

people from me life.  Goes back to the stress trigger.  Everyone else use and do

whatever makes you feel comfortable.  Me, I guess my Chicago personality just

comes out and I had tell my younger sister go away and don't call me contact me

anymore.  Her life is so full of B.S. of made up drama and she will suck anyone

in her orbit into it.  I don't have time for it and gives me so much anxiety.  I

have asked her for years to stop it. I have a disease to manage and life to live

and a daughter  raise.  

I have a ton more information for everyone that some might find helpful and

others not. 

Take care and I have will have try to read the posts but I am very busy right

now.  If there is someone needs some specific information.  Then I do know where

to get free remicade for example if one does not have health insurance.

Good luck everyone and have a good weekend.

Bye

  S. Carrington

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Hello everyone. Well just woke up . and I told my husband all of my joints are

throbbing . I feel like im going to have a flare up . I pray I dont . The last

one I had was March of 08 . But I feel the symptoms of one coming on . Do the

flares get worse even on biologic meds ? And how often do they come ? I am just

very afraid because I remember how I was the last time . And it wasnt pleasant .

I dont sleep well as it is with the RA . But with a flare forget sleeping at all

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