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Hi Janet,

I had accute diverticulitis about a year ago and ended up in the

hospital so I can sympathize with you, even though I did not need

surgery. Sounds like you had a lot more sever case than I had. It

was the most painful thing I have gone through! You went through way

too much! Stress alone will kill anybody but I guess if you have

arthritis is really does a number on you. Hope things are a lot

better for you now.

a

-- In , fam24@a... wrote:

> Talk about stress and PA. About 5 years ago my pains started

getting worse

> in the knees. Until then all the Drs. including a rheumy said I

had osteo.

> What dopes since I had P all on my elbows, arms and legs.

> Then I tore the cartiledge in my knee while in nursing school at

the

> hospital and was limping around trying to do clinical and the

wicked intstructor

> told me to get off the floor. I then had knee surgery and then

two days later

> ended up in the hospital with severe diverticulitis and an

intestinal

> blockage. I had to have a foot of intestines taken out. Several

months later I was

> coughing and I developed a big bulge on the incision. It was an

incisional

> hernia and I had to have it operated on. A year later I doubled

up in pain in

> my stomach and had huge ovarian cysts the size of tennis balls

and ended up

> with a hysterectomy. Then two years ago my one knee was so bad

that I had a

> replacement and at the same time the other knee had a torn

cartiledge so they

> operated on both knees at the same time. That is when the PA

started

> flaring like crazy in all the joints and I developed some

shingles at the time as

> well. TALK ABOUT STRESS!!!

> Now you know why I think I got the SS disability so quick.

> Janet

>

>

>

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>

> Dear Bee,

> About 13 years ago I went through a lot of stress regarding a

religious problem with my mom about homeschooling my kids. I went

through a lot of symptoms which led to multiple chemical

sensitivities. I went through another religious thing again last

summer, and I am getting all the symptoms that I got back then.

> My question, am I going through healing with the diet, or am I

going down the awful symptoms that I went through back then, which

could be happening again with the latest stress of last summer? I

remember everything that I went through, panic attacks, heart

palpitations, chest pains, even taking Inderal for my heart then.

These progressed to chemical and petrochemical sensitivities. It took

a good three years for all the problems to come up. It is really

scaring me, almost to the point of foregoing the diet, forgetting

about butter and coconut oil, just to get these awful symptoms to

subside. I am also perimenopausal which isn't helping much. I keep

reassuring myself that I am healing, but this is scary. I am

constantly tired, dizzy, and do not handle stress at all. HELP!

==>Yes, according to natural healing laws your body, and you, will re-

experience past symptoms, illnesses, diseases, injuries, etc., but

they are not as severe as when they first happened. They are like

a " copy " of what happened. It is part of the healing process where

the body needs to uncover these things and bring them to the

forefront so it can heal the problems associated with them. It's

like peeling off layers of an onion - going backwards in time.

==>If you do not persist with the diet now it will re-surface later

and have to be dealt with at some time, and it could result in a

worse-type of breakdown of the body, i.e. cancer.

==>It is very tough Joyce, but it's going to more beneficial to " bite

the bullet " now rather than wait for future consequences. To

minimize symptoms do all of the things recommended for aiding your

body, i.e. enemas, epsom salt baths, lemon and sea salt, dry skin

brushing, having fun things in your life, not watching the news,

etc. You are much better able to handle stress now than you did

before because you are giving your body the nutrients it needs to

deal with it better.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> What is the best thing to do during times of stress? I've been going

so well on your diet, eating all the right foods, taking the right

supplements. However, I've been going through some stressful personal

issues lately and when the stress is most intense, I feel very nervous

and my skin begins to itch and I have trouble sleeping. It worries me

that the candida might thrive on stress. Are there are fortifying or

relaxing treatments/supplements/foods you can recommend?

==>When you are stressed the body isn't as capable of digesting foods

properly, so it is best to eat a mostly liquid diet, i.e. Bee's raw egg

drink, soups, broths, and pureed foods. When I was the most stressed I

would eat organic baby food. LOL!

==>Also do these:

1. Epsom salt baths to relax you and to pull out toxins.

2. Dry skin brushing faithfully 2 times a day or rebound on a

trampoline or jump rope.

3. Take long walks and look around you a lot noticing the environment;

look at the sky and then at something closer and back and forth. This

helps you to exteriorize, getting your mind out of the past.

3. Take extra vitamin C, vitamin B complex, and cod liver oil (you can

double the doses).

4. Take 150 - 300 mg extra magnesium.

5. Do deep breathing exercises to switch your body over from running on

adrenaline - do a site search on my website.

6. For relaxation do this for 15 minutes every day. Lie on the floor

with your feet on a chair so your thighs are at a right angle to the

seat of the chair and the calves of your legs are lying across the seat

of the chair. It is as simple as that.

7. Thump your thymus to stimulate it.Using your knuckles thump gently

but firmly on your middle of your breast bone.Thump about 10 times in a

row.Do this several times a day to wake up your thymus which is very

important part of the immune system.

> P.S. I love the simplicity of your diet. It's like ABC to me. No more

> going to the health shop bewildered, brain fagged and being sold a

> handful of useless, obscure supplements. Now, I go in and ask for

> exactly what I need, and when they don't have it and try to sell me

> something else that they say " works exactly the same way " , I just say

> no thankyou and leave. Congratulations Bee.

>

==>Thank you so much! I'm so happy you are getting a lot from it.

Luv, Bee

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I like to take 5htp along with other herbs and maybe some Melatonin to correct

sleep cycle.

Which herbs are you taking?

Tammy

stress

what is recommended for stress. I can't seem to sleep at night and I took a

muscle test. The lady put me on some adrenal stress herbs. does anyone recommend

anything different?

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I found that 3 Same or 2 L-Theanine (both from NOW)

are helping me. I take one or the other, not both on

the same day, on an empty stomach in the morning.

With my evening meal I take two Scullcap. My

daughter, who has a very stressful job, started to

take Same too and feels so much better...

Ingrid

> stress

>

>

> what is recommended for stress. I can't seem to

> sleep at night and I took a muscle test. The lady

> put me on some adrenal stress herbs. does anyone

> recommend anything different?

>

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I'm taking adrenal stress end and Sleep blend sp-17 from Solaray. I took this

muscle test and the lady said my adrenal gland was out of balance....

Reysean

Tammy Alfred <realty21plus@...> wrote: I

like to take 5htp along with other herbs and maybe some Melatonin to correct

sleep cycle.

Which herbs are you taking?

Tammy

stress

what is recommended for stress. I can't seem to sleep at night and I took a

muscle test. The lady put me on some adrenal stress herbs. does anyone recommend

anything different?

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Theresa

Oh boy can I relate on this one. I don't get any skin reaction, the only PA rash

I have is little white patches on my elbows. I do however get pain in every

joint in my body. Lord I hate those days. I try to avoid what stress I can and

get plenty of sleep. It is not always easy when you have a stressful job and

work 40 hours a week.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I always get flare ups during periods of stress.

I wish you the very best of health,

Peace soudi

[Guest guest]

Yes, almost always. Any kind of stress - physical stress like an

illness or emotional stress like family problems. Anything that makes

your body feel threatened tends to kick our immune systems up a notch.

regards,

sherry z

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Theresa,

I experienced a major flare up the night after a big job interview. It

was so bad my rheumatologist had to put me on a round of Prednisone

(which I hate doing). I really do believe that stress can cause flare-

ups!

[Guest guest]

Oh boy, can I relate to that! I had what I would call sub-clinical PA

for decades and never knew I had anything seriously wrong with me. My

last job was extremely stressful, and the job, combined with the

termination of a high stress, high anxiety relationship sent me into a

severe flare. I was unconscious for almost 48 hours and bed-ridden for

2 weeks. I have been ill ever since.

Stress has been well-documented as a long-term cause and short-term

trigger of auto-immune diseases.I retired from that job about 7 years

ago, and found my health improved dramatically. My rheumy told me that

people with auto-immune diseases who are able to quit working show an

average 30% improvement in disease severity.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

I am relate to having joint pain related to stress. Almost every time

that I have had a flair up it will be something that has happened that

will cause a huge flair up. The first time that I started having

symptoms I didn't relate it to stress. I really didn't know what the

cause was for this severe joint pain. When my son became a senior in

high school and was going to go off to college it took a toil on me. I

was in and out of Dr's offices frequently with pain and didn't know

what the cause of it was. After several trips to the Dr and exrays and

test that came back with just inflammation. The RH factor was normal

and one day finally I went to her after a hard night struggling with

this mysterious pain that no one could tell me what the deal was. She

sent me to a rheumy. I was Dx then at that time with Psoriatic

Arthritis. I was glad that we had a name after 4 years of this,

Finally we had a name! I have been pain free and got the psoriasis

cleared up on my elbows. I have now got the psoriasis in my ears!!

What a weird place. So lets go back to the stress. My mother was just

DX with breast cancer stage 3. It is inflammatory Breast cancer and if

you do research on this there is not much of a cure for her. She also

has MS and with her having the MS her immune system is already low and

she can't under go Chemo. So they can just give her medication to slow

it down. Not to mention that in December I was having dizzy spells and

since my mother has MS they sent me for an MRI which showed up lesions

in the brain compatible to MS. So I have been going to the neurologist

and I had to have a spinal tap to determine if I have MS. I have to

have another MRI this Friday and I will go to the neurologist is April

to go over the report. So one might say are you stressed? At this

point yes I am and I try to keep a positive attitude and say what's

going to be is going to be and there is nothing I can do about it. So

yes stress plays a huge part in your PA. I would like to hear other

stories regarding stress and PA. Thank for all the great information

that this site provides and for the help that you have gave me.

Tammy

[Guest guest]

Oh my goodness Tammy,

What a load of stress you carry. It is little wonder that you would have flair

ups. Try to take good care of yourself.

[Guest guest]

Tammy: you don't mention her at least what medicine you're on for PA. If it's

one of the biologics, they can cause MS type symptoms.

Joanna Hoelscher

630-833-7361

[Guest guest]

It's SO true what your rheumy said about improvement when you stop working. I

am fifty years old and had a very stressful job. I felt my life was just about

over I was in such bad shape with the PA. I quit working last July and it has

made a HUGE difference. I don't know about the pain being better exactly but

the extra rest has made me feel like I can live again. I don't ever question

leaving work even though I miss everyone because it is quite evident that I

could no longer continue.

I'm sorry if you get tired of me saying this but my Social Security disability

was approved in only four months. I just like to keep letting people know- if

it gives hope to just one person who is suffering then I will be overjoyed.

Thank all of you for sharing your stories,tips and yes, even your vents. I find

strength in knowing that I am not alone.

Thanks,

Deanna

[Guest guest]

Hi Deb;

There is a lot of chit chat going on right now on the

www.roadback.org site about AS.Might be worth treading .I do not

remember the details as I am well now and don't spend much time on the

computer anymore. Lynne G./ Scleroderma

> I was diagnosed with Ankylosing spondylitis several years ago and do

> find stress a major factor in triggering a flare.

>

> I'm in the process of exploring the facts regarding AP. Does anyone

> know of a willing Dr. in the Detroit, MI area? My internist is pretty

> open to my input, so I will start with her, but would like to know of

> any other Docs. I've done the list of drugs that the specialists say

> to take with no improvement: what has helped the most is good diet,

> water exercise, rest and being aware and avoiding the things that

> cause stress as best as I can, but life has stress so can't always

> avoid it.

>

> Thanks,

> Deb

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynne,

 

Thank you for your response.  I will do that.

 

Deb

From: Lynne and Santos <lynneandsantos@...>

Subject: Re: rheumatic stress

rheumatic

Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 9:31 PM

Hi Deb;

There is a lot of chit chat going on right now on the

www.roadback. org site about AS.Might be worth treading .I do not

remember the details as I am well now and don't spend much time on the

computer anymore. Lynne G./ Scleroderma

> I was diagnosed with Ankylosing spondylitis several years ago and do

> find stress a major factor in triggering a flare.

>

> I'm in the process of exploring the facts regarding AP. Does anyone

> know of a willing Dr. in the Detroit, MI area? My internist is pretty

> open to my input, so I will start with her, but would like to know of

> any other Docs. I've done the list of drugs that the specialists say

> to take with no improvement: what has helped the most is good diet,

> water exercise, rest and being aware and avoiding the things that

> cause stress as best as I can, but life has stress so can't always

> avoid it.

>

> Thanks,

> Deb

>

>

[Guest guest]

One distinction between RA and PA is that RA has a positive RH factor

and with PA, there is no RH factor. Also, MS is a potentially

inherited disease from parent w/P or PA. Also, MS is a poss side

effect of many of the biologics on the market and approved for use

with PA.

I must say, you are the only other person I have ever heard from that

has experienced psoriasis or PA in their ears. Welcome to the elite!!

What a place to be special, eh?!

Cheryl M.

[Guest guest]

I have not been online or in the PA for awhile and it is wild how much

I am relating to so many of the posts tonight. I was in a coma for 3

days and hospitalized for 3 wks before they sent me home in an

ambulance. Without health insurance and my SSD case still pending, I

was unable to access rehab for an additional 11 months. Three years

later I am still trying to get back to where I was before I nearly

died with sepsis. The doctor that saved my life kept telling me that

it was all the stress I had endured up til then, and my pushing myself

to survive each time, as a single parent of four, that put me where I

was at the time. I am still struggling to regain so much that it is

very easy to get depressed.

It makes me wonder, if leaving a stressful job improves one's health

by 30%, then how much worse does it make us to keep striving to return

to work?? Am I making myself worse, or aggravating my P/PA by wanting

so desperately to go back to work?? And working toward that as my

ultimate goal?? Whether I am working or not, there always seem to be

stressors in my life. I thought that perhaps getting to a point where

I could at least work PT and feel like I was contributing more, that

it might reduce the stress. Maybe that's wrong??

We currently live in an area we love, but it is quite far from the

kids and grandkids. Right now, I fly down at least once a year, but

even that can be very hard. Everyone is scattered, so it's not like we

can move to one place that solves all the problems. When we moved

here, it seemed like the right thing to do. It has been positive for

us in many ways and we love it here. Unfortunately, my health has been

bad enough that I really have not been able etc. to establish

friends, etc.

It's different for my partner with RA. He's had an easier time with

work and has been no better or worse with his RA. People at work love

him and he has little difficulty finding work, whereas that was simply

the opposite when we lived down south.

Cheryl M. (AK)

[Guest guest]

Do mind my asking what state you are in?? Many have told me that that

can make a huge difference in how fast you are approved for SSD/SSI.

Cheryl M.

[Guest guest]

A lot of people see an improvement with antibiotics, so it seems kind

of strange that his skin is flaring. Be careful! I became septic while

on Enbrel. I had strep A in my blood stream, renal failure, and

rhabdomyolysis before I was done. My skin patches actually got

better!! Everything else was worse, but I was also removed from all my

meds, so it was understandable that I was in a great deal more pain.

He is not continuing to take the Enbrel and MTX right now while he is

sick is he?? The steroids should be making him better. There are,

however, different strains of staph/strep that do not respond to the

old penicillin and erythromycin drugs. If he's getting worse instead

of better, I would not hesitate to take him back to ER. Is he at home

or in the hosp?? What else is he on? Any Cymbalta? (helps pain and

depression). His regular doctor ought to have somebody on call if you

can't get ahold of the rheumy.

Cheryl M.

[Guest guest]

Cheryl:  you have many reasons to be stressed so I can't help but ask if you're

doing anything that might help alleviate it, like meditation.  I hate to sound

trite, but it really does work and it need only take 10-15 minutes a day. 

Doesn't cost anything - you can get a book on it at the library or (even better)

a CD that will guide you through the steps, help calm you. 

 Joanna Hoelscher

[Guest guest]

I typically get psoriasis behind the ears.  Evey once and a while, in the ears. 

Once I got it deep in the canal and that was miserable.

Gilchrist <gilchrist414@...>

[Guest guest]

Strep is notorious for causing flares with P, my guess is it is true

for PA. Keep reaching out for help and support from others, especially

if he is not ready to do so yet. Sounds like your husband is as

stubborn as the rest of us. It may take him time to realize his

limitation. It is difficult for anyone to realize and accept it, men

may have an even more difficult time doing so. It sounds like he has a

strong and supportive wife and is going to appreciate this eventually

if he doesn't already! You are in my thoughts and prayers.

-Eileen

[Guest guest]

I've got it behind and in the ears as well. Never deep, though; that

does sound like a pain.

Lukoff