Phentermine

[Guest guest]

,

Why would you risk it? You're not overweight. The possible side

effects of phentermine include: diarrhea, dry mouth, constipation, an

unpleasant taste, hives, impotence, palpitations, high blood

pressure, and fast heart rates. Central nervous system side effects

include overstimulation, insomnia, restlessness, tremor, and

dizziness.

I hope you decide not to try it.

Best wishes,

Celeste

wrote:

> Get phentermine for weight loss, I am thinking of trying it, I

haven't taken

> any phentermine ever but I am thinking of buying a box of it

online. What do

> you all think about appetite suppressants? I think they do help a

lot.

[Guest guest]

I would avoid the Atkins diet like the plague! I'm a vegetarian and I can

still get a high amount of protein......it fills me up but keeps my

cholesterol level down naturally. Meat inherently has cholesterol. Dairy

products are

just awful too, but cheese is my only vice. Plus......I don't think carbs

are bad.....it's the overprocessed carbs that are bad......simple carbs like

brown rice, whole grains, beans, etc. are very healthy, low fat and won't put

weight on you. I think processed carbs are what you want to cut out......but

you

can have natural carbs and have a low fat, low cholesterol very filling meal.

Too much protein is hard on your kidneys and it may take a while for the

damage to show up. Natural unprocessed carbs have been the staple of human

diets

for centuries without problems of obesity like we have in America today. I

think processed carbs like doritos, white bread, pizza, corn tortias combined

with steak, burgers and pork chops that cause the weight problem. I ate a 5lb

bag of potatoes by adding it to veggie soup or boiling or baking them in about

4 days and didn't gain a pound......now if they were instant mashed potatoes

or potato chips or french fries.......I probably would have! Do some

research on nutrition and healthy cooking.

[Guest guest]

Hi how are u? thanx a lot for your thoughts. It's true i've read the warnings

and it says people with some problems cannot take those types of appetite

suppressants. Although it doesn't harm low-blood presure people.

It does help a bit by increasing noradrenaline it curves appetite a bit in the

afternoons. Exercise is good too because it can also control food intake, i am

just taking phentermine for 1 month

Aprilcupcake@... wrote:

, I urge you to read the warnings on the package. My husband

has used Hydroxycut, and it makes him very agressive. Persons

taking other medications should not use these kinds of products

because the effects simply are not known yet. Could be very dangerous.

I do remember it saying that you should not take it if you have any

blood pressure problems, anxiety or depression.

Hypothyroid persons often have depression and LOW blood pressure.

And when you raise it too fast, you could get yourself in trouble.

Be careful. What dose of medication are you on?

And what other methods have you tried?

Chriss.

[Guest guest]

,

try eating a low carb diet instead of diet pills..they are SO bad...you

will not feel hungry on a low carb diet.

Deneen:)

[Guest guest]

hey my hypothyroidism friend how are u? thanks a lot for the sugestion. Yeah i

agree with u. even though i am not on the Dr. Atkins diet i am doing a low

moderate carb diet, that is increase a bit my protein while eating a moderate

measured amount of carbohydrates during the day

Thanks a lot

PS: walking helps me a lot too, i try to walk like 15-25 minutes in the

afternoons (in summer i walk 1hour)

juan carlos cruz

jezebel56@... wrote:

,

try eating a low carb diet instead of diet pills..they are SO bad...you

will not feel hungry on a low carb diet.

Deneen:)

[Guest guest]

I have lost 60lbs on the Atkins diet.It is the ONLY thing that worked

for me.I have sense gone to the Dr. Phil program which adds balance to

your meals.I never had any problems on the Atkins diet.Everyone is

different.

Deneen:)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/10/03 10:16:44 PM Central Standard Time,

jezebel56@... writes:

> I have lost 60lbs on the Atkins diet.

I think the biggest problem with the Atkins diet is long term......the way

if you have a few drinks or smoke a few cigarette's it won't kill you or

instantly give you cancer. Problem is......most people do not keep weight off

from

dieting it has to be a combo of diet, live changes and exercise. The Atkins

diet is kinda a quick fix and not very healthy.......especially in the long

term, but I have no doubt that it produces some quick results many times.......

[Guest guest]

This isn't true. Several recent studies have shown that the Atkins diet

actually reduces cholesterol and triglyceride counts, and there are now many

people who have been on it for years and are just fine. You don't exclude all

carbohydrate on the Atkins plan, but you do quit eating refined sugars and

flours. Exercise is required on the Atkins plan. It's also not true that it's

a quick weight loss diet. People lose a lot on the first couple of weeks, but a

lot of that is water weight. The average loss on Atkins is about a pound a

week.

jblack555@... wrote:I think the biggest problem with the Atkins diet is long

term......the way

if you have a few drinks or smoke a few cigarette's it won't kill you or

instantly give you cancer. Problem is......most people do not keep weight off

from

dieting it has to be a combo of diet, live changes and exercise. The Atkins

diet is kinda a quick fix and not very healthy.......especially in the long

term, but I have no doubt that it produces some quick results many times.......

[Guest guest]

I have kept my weight off since january.I think it is the person not the

diet that fails.Like I said,everyone is different.We thyroid sufferers

have to do twice the work to be healthy but if you follow a low carb

diet AND you are properly medicated,you will lose weight and with a

proper maintenence program,you will keep it off.Notice I said PROPERLY

MEDICATED....I stopped losing at 25lbs lost and had to re-adjust my meds

to lose again.

Deneen:)

[Guest guest]

Do you mind talking about what happened when you stopped losing? This is a

consistent pattern with me. I lose a bit, then, while still following the diet,

stop losing. In the past, I've assumed I needed some supplement or needed to

alter the diet or try harder, but lately I've realized it's due to the thyroid

issue. What happens for me, as well, is that whenever I lose 10-20 pounds, I

get a big immune system reaction. I'm really interested in finding other people

with a similar problem.

jezebel56@... wrote:I have kept my weight off since january.I think it is

the person not the

diet that fails.Like I said,everyone is different.We thyroid sufferers

have to do twice the work to be healthy but if you follow a low carb

diet AND you are properly medicated,you will lose weight and with a

proper maintenence program,you will keep it off.Notice I said PROPERLY

MEDICATED....I stopped losing at 25lbs lost and had to re-adjust my meds

to lose again.

Deneen:)

[Guest guest]

I can certainly attest to the fact that Atkins is DEFINITELY NOT

a 'quick fix' diet! LOL And yes, average pound loss per week is 1lb,

which is one reason why most Atkins followers have little problem

with that saggy-baggy skin after losing.

The idea that Atkins is a " no carb " diet comes from those stupid few

who think that restricting the carbs below what's recommended will

cause greater pound loss, and over all, those who don't follow the

plan exactly the way Dr. Atkins structured it end up with problems

somewhere along the line.

There's a saying among Atkids: If you don't follow the plan EXACTLY,

you're not doing Atkins.

Ella

> This isn't true. Several recent studies have shown that the Atkins

diet actually reduces cholesterol and triglyceride counts, and there

are now many people who have been on it for years and are just fine.

You don't exclude all carbohydrate on the Atkins plan, but you do

quit eating refined sugars and flours. Exercise is required on the

Atkins plan. It's also not true that it's a quick weight loss diet.

People lose a lot on the first couple of weeks, but a lot of that is

water weight. The average loss on Atkins is about a pound a week.

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Atkins diet system is wrong best way to diet is 40% carbs, 40% protein 20%

fats

soul@...> wrote:

I can certainly attest to the fact that Atkins is DEFINITELY NOT

a 'quick fix' diet! LOL And yes, average pound loss per week is 1lb,

which is one reason why most Atkins followers have little problem

with that saggy-baggy skin after losing.

The idea that Atkins is a " no carb " diet comes from those stupid few

who think that restricting the carbs below what's recommended will

cause greater pound loss, and over all, those who don't follow the

plan exactly the way Dr. Atkins structured it end up with problems

somewhere along the line.

There's a saying among Atkids: If you don't follow the plan EXACTLY,

you're not doing Atkins.

Ella

> This isn't true. Several recent studies have shown that the Atkins

diet actually reduces cholesterol and triglyceride counts, and there

are now many people who have been on it for years and are just fine.

You don't exclude all carbohydrate on the Atkins plan, but you do

quit eating refined sugars and flours. Exercise is required on the

Atkins plan. It's also not true that it's a quick weight loss diet.

People lose a lot on the first couple of weeks, but a lot of that is

water weight. The average loss on Atkins is about a pound a week.

>

[Guest guest]

I could be missunderstanding something here, but Phentermine is NOT

offered over the counter, in Hydroxycut or any other medication. It's

a VERY serious drug and one that is NOT taken or given lightly. It's

available by prescription only, and one reason is that a person

really needs to be monitored WELL while taking it.

I took it a few years back, long after they stopped combining it with

the other 'phen' drug. Combined, they made the notorious and

dangerous " phen-phen. " There are warnings that come with

Phentermine, and side effects, especially in the first few days, that

have to be taken into consideration. For example, they warn agains

driving or operating heavy machinery for the first few days to see

how it effects you. Dizziness and foggy thinking are side effects,

among others.

Hydroxycut doesn't contain phentermine, although it DOES contain

Ephedra if you don't buy the ephedra-free version. Now Ephedra,

THAT'S far worse than phentermine ever thought of being! People have

had strokes, heart attacks, etc. taking that stuff. Personally, I

think the FDA is STUPID for not taking that crap off the shelf! I

have MVP and drank a sports drink (Ripped Fuel) once, not realizing

it contained ephedra. I ended up with heart palpitations that lasted

over an hour..I swear I thought I was going to die that day. I will

NEVER take it again, ever. And to think, people without MVP or other

health problems have had SERIOUS problems with ephedra. It's simply

not worth the risk.

Ella

> , I urge you to read the warnings on the package. My husband

> has used Hydroxycut, and it makes him very agressive. Persons

> taking other medications should not use these kinds of products

> because the effects simply are not known yet. Could be very

dangerous.

> I do remember it saying that you should not take it if you have any

> blood pressure problems, anxiety or depression.

> Hypothyroid persons often have depression and LOW blood pressure.

> And when you raise it too fast, you could get yourself in trouble.

> Be careful. What dose of medication are you on?

> And what other methods have you tried?

> Chriss.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/11/03 3:00:04 PM Central Standard Time,

melmac2525@... writes:

> This isn't true. Several recent studies have shown that the Atkins diet

> actually reduces cholesterol and triglyceride counts, and there are now many

> people who have been on it for years and are just fine. You don't exclude all

> carbohydrate on the Atkins plan, but you do quit eating refined sugars and

> flours. Exercise is required on the Atkins plan. It's also not true that

it's

> a quick weight loss diet. People lose a lot on the first couple of weeks,

> but a lot of that is water weight. The average loss on Atkins is about a

> pound a week.

>

>

I guess I've just read studies stating the opposite......I think there are

other factors too like vegetarians have a 40% lower cancer rate and vegans

have virtually no heart disease. I think the risk of diseases like diabetes are

cut in half. Plus, with an already sensitive body, there is the issue of the

like tons of antibiotics and hormones the animals are injected with. Of

course, you have to do lots of research to make sure you are eating

nutritionally

complete as a vegetarian because we have such a meat and potatoes kind of norm

so it takes a while to adjust......but I think one of the reasons I wasn't

diagnosed with my hypothyroidism right away is because I eat vegetarian and so

still had the energy to go to the gym despite my thyroid being pretty far gone.

Plus, I didn't gain much weight.....like " gaining weight " for me was going up

to a size 8 at 5' 9 " , while if I was eating meat....I'm sure I would have

really gained! And after getting my synthroid I lost weight....but it was

mostly

an unnatural puffiness, but I didn't have to diet because I already eat

really healthy. Ya have to be really careful about who's doing the study

too.....like I think many pro-atkins studies are done by the meat industry.

Critics

can argue that vegetarian studies are funded by the soy industry and I'm sure

some are.......but the truth is you can be a vegetarian and never eat soy

because there are so many options out there to choose from and be healthy. By

quitting eating refined sugars and flours you lose weight, that's why people

feel

healthier, but that's what I was saying to do just in a more healthy vegetarian

way. Hey, I just push the issue because I've noticed how great it really

worked for me and want to share! It's really worth checking out.....I'll

swear by it.

[Guest guest]

What is best is what works for a person.

There is some evidence that a low-carbohydrate diet may work best for

hypothyroid patients.

http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa101299.htm

Cruz <juan_carlos_cruzzz@...> wrote:

Dr. Atkins diet system is wrong best way to diet is 40% carbs, 40% protein 20%

fats

soul@...> wrote:

I can certainly attest to the fact that Atkins is DEFINITELY NOT

a 'quick fix' diet! LOL And yes, average pound loss per week is 1lb,

which is one reason why most Atkins followers have little problem

with that saggy-baggy skin after losing.

The idea that Atkins is a " no carb " diet comes from those stupid few

who think that restricting the carbs below what's recommended will

cause greater pound loss, and over all, those who don't follow the

plan exactly the way Dr. Atkins structured it end up with problems

somewhere along the line.

There's a saying among Atkids: If you don't follow the plan EXACTLY,

you're not doing Atkins.

Ella

> This isn't true. Several recent studies have shown that the Atkins

diet actually reduces cholesterol and triglyceride counts, and there

are now many people who have been on it for years and are just fine.

You don't exclude all carbohydrate on the Atkins plan, but you do

quit eating refined sugars and flours. Exercise is required on the

Atkins plan. It's also not true that it's a quick weight loss diet.

People lose a lot on the first couple of weeks, but a lot of that is

water weight. The average loss on Atkins is about a pound a week.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/11/03 7:21:26 PM Central Standard Time,

melmac2525@... writes:

> There is some evidence that a low-carbohydrate diet may work best for

> hypothyroid patients.

> http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa101299.htm

>

>

I'm not disagreeing.......you can still be vegetarian and have a high

protein, low carb diet.....and then you can also cut out the excessive

antibiotics,

hormones and god knows what else they feed the cows! How about the mercury

level in fish? Tuna was like my last meat.....once I heard that pregnant women

or hoping to become pregnant shouldn't eat tuna, I was thinking about what is

that doing to the rest of us? Just because we aren't giving another person

birth defects it's okay to build up levels of mercury? Gotta love that

government! LOL! I'm just saying, it's really worth checking out.....it's just

work

to find recipes and your taste buds change, but it's sure made me feel like

110% better.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/11/03 11:07:46 PM Central Standard Time,

kemalandsheila@... writes:

> I also believe my vegetarianism may have helped contribute to my thyroid

> problems. I lived off soy products. After being diagnosed, I learned that

> there's now this big debate in the medical field that too much soy may

actually

> trigger thyroid problems.

>

>

I've heard that too......but I eat soy regulary, but have a varied

diet-it's not my sole substitute for meat. I just find the health risks from

meat....cancer, heart disease, etc. just as bad and plausable. I'm also

allergic

to many chemicals and antibiotics and notice I'm healthier not eating meat,

and especially not milk. If I have a glass of milk (which I used to love,)

within a couple of hours I would get flu like symptoms. It took me forever to

figure it out. So I do agree different strokes for different folks, just

sharing

my own experience. When I first became a vegetarian I didn't know how to

balance my diet or eat a healthy vegetarian diet for the longest time.......I

realized many people give up or give being a vegetarian a bum rap because it's

not the norm and because of that, it's harder to learn all the stuff to keep

yourself healthy. Like I said, we live in a meat and potatoes world! When I

first became a vegetarian my mom blamed it on not eating meat. LOL! but I've

really had good experiences because of it and the more I learn.....the more I

think I didn't have such bad symptoms despite really bad levels...because I eat

healthy and exercise.....I think it really made the difference.

[Guest guest]

,

I did the same thing,lose 10 or so lbs and then stop.Sometimes I would

add more fat and start losing,if that didn't work I would go off the

diet completely for a week and then start again and then I would

lose.The last time I stopped losing it was for several weeks.I started

to feel thyroid issues coming back and actually started to gain even

though I was still on the diet.I upped my meds and started losing

again.I also had an issue with estrogen dominance and I corrected that

with progesterone cream.That has helped A LOT!!...

Deneen:)

[Guest guest]

I don't think a vegetarian diet (or any diet for that matter) is right for

everyone, nor do I think cholesterol is a " bad " thing. Not enough of it is not

good either. I don't think dairy products are awful either. In my opinion, it's

about moderation.

My motto is " different strokes for different folks. "

I also believe my vegetarianism may have helped contribute to my thyroid

problems. I lived off soy products. After being diagnosed, I learned that

there's now this big debate in the medical field that too much soy may actually

trigger thyroid problems.

take care, sheila

jblack555@... wrote:

I would avoid the Atkins diet like the plague! I'm a vegetarian and I can

still get a high amount of protein......it fills me up but keeps my

cholesterol level down naturally. Meat inherently has cholesterol. Dairy

products are

just awful too, but cheese is my only vice. Plus......I don't think carbs

are bad.....it's the overprocessed carbs that are bad......simple carbs like

brown rice, whole grains, beans, etc. are very healthy, low fat and won't put

weight on you. I think processed carbs are what you want to cut out......but

you

can have natural carbs and have a low fat, low cholesterol very filling meal.

Too much protein is hard on your kidneys and it may take a while for the

damage to show up. Natural unprocessed carbs have been the staple of human

diets

for centuries without problems of obesity like we have in America today. I

think processed carbs like doritos, white bread, pizza, corn tortias combined

with steak, burgers and pork chops that cause the weight problem. I ate a 5lb

bag of potatoes by adding it to veggie soup or boiling or baking them in about

4 days and didn't gain a pound......now if they were instant mashed potatoes

or potato chips or french fries.......I probably would have! Do some

research on nutrition and healthy cooking.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/12/03 1:04:34 PM Central Standard Time,

melmac2525@... writes:

> I've been a vegetarian in the past, and it's always led to more thyroid

> problems. For me, I believe it's from the soy and the increased carbohydrate

> count. So, I'm content to be a carnivore.

>

>

>

>

>

How? What kind of health problems?

I'm so surprised......my thyroid problems come genetically from my mom's

side....who's a hard core meat eater.....she's had breast cancer and she has

allergies, severe arthritis and she is now getting checking for thyroid disease

since I was diagnosed. My dad has been a vegetarian most of his life.....he's

part of that Albert Einstein....nerdy engineer vegetarian bunch! He's in his

late 70's, but you'd think he was in his low 60's. He's extremely healthy

and still mentally sharper than most people my age. My brother and sister in

law are both vegetarians in their 50's and have been most of their lives and are

very healthy.....in fact, my brother in law has a genetic disease he was born

with and he's one of the oldest living people with this disease......no doubt

his vegetarian diet has something to do with his good health. Their daughter

who's studying to be a doctor was raised vegetarian and is very healthy with

no health issues or autoimmune disease. I suspect that if you get health

problems from being a vegetarian maybe you weren't eating a complete diet? I

starved the first year I was vegetarian.......I had to do extensive research and

take a couple of classes, but now I really feel a lot healthier and I check out

the same with the doctor! Hey.....different strokes, but I wouldn't

mention it unless I really believed it works.....just sharing what works for me

very well.

[Guest guest]

I've been a vegetarian before. It just doesn't work for me.

jblack555@... wrote: I'm not disagreeing.......you can still be vegetarian

and have a high

protein, low carb diet.....and then you can also cut out the excessive

antibiotics,

hormones and god knows what else they feed the cows! How about the mercury

level in fish? Tuna was like my last meat.....once I heard that pregnant women

or hoping to become pregnant shouldn't eat tuna, I was thinking about what is

that doing to the rest of us? Just because we aren't giving another person

birth defects it's okay to build up levels of mercury? Gotta love that

government! LOL! I'm just saying, it's really worth checking out.....it's just

work

to find recipes and your taste buds change, but it's sure made me feel like

110% better.

[Guest guest]

I agree. Those in my family who eat meat and who eat moderate carbs

or low carb are in pretty good shape. My mom was very obese up until

a few months before she died. She was diabetic (even after the

weight loss) and had two heart attacks, the second of which killed

her. My oldest sister, a total carboholic like my mom is incredibly

obese, has had one heart attack, and is also diabetic. She's also on

meds for cholesterol and has to use oxygen at night when she sleeps.

A cousin of mine, who was obese most of her life (raised on beans and

potatoes like the rest of us) overcame her weight issues, her

diabetes...and is thin, healthy and vibrant...after switching to a

low carb lifestyle. She's been healthy now for about 15 years. And

when she starts taking in the carbs and picking up a bit of weight,

she begins to have blood sugar problems again, so she's pretty much a

hard core low carber now.

I'm not saying all vegetarians are sickly. I'm just saying that from

what I've seen...I'm happy to eat meat and fewer carbs! It's hard,

because I'm a carboholic, too (come by it honest), but I know it's

better, at least for me and my family.

Ella

> I've been a vegetarian in the past, and it's always led to more

thyroid problems. For me, I believe it's from the soy and the

increased carbohydrate count. So, I'm content to be a carnivore.

>

[Guest guest]

There are several people who can do Atkins for life. I personally

don't like it, but it looks like I am gonna have to do it forever

anyway because of PCOS, so there is no choice for me.

Jan

> In a message dated 12/10/03 10:16:44 PM Central Standard Time,

> jezebel56@w... writes:

>

>

> > I have lost 60lbs on the Atkins diet.

>

> I think the biggest problem with the Atkins diet is long

term......the way

> if you have a few drinks or smoke a few cigarette's it won't kill

you or

> instantly give you cancer. Problem is......most people do not keep

weight off from

> dieting it has to be a combo of diet, live changes and exercise.

The Atkins

> diet is kinda a quick fix and not very healthy.......especially in

the long

> term, but I have no doubt that it produces some quick results many

times.......

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I did research before becoming a vegetarian, so I was getting complete protein.

I'm sure there are some conditions vegetarianism helps. Mine isn't one of them.

I am usually borderline anemic and being vegetarian made that worse. The soy

products interfered with my medication and my TSH actually went up while eating

lots of soy. I have had two bouts of vegetarianism, one lasting about three

years. I have also done the high-carb, low-fat, meat-as-condiment thing. I

don't process carbs well enough to live on a high-carb diet.

jblack555@... wrote:

In a message dated 12/12/03 1:04:34 PM Central Standard Time,

melmac2525@... writes:

> I've been a vegetarian in the past, and it's always led to more thyroid

> problems. For me, I believe it's from the soy and the increased carbohydrate

> count. So, I'm content to be a carnivore.

>

>

>

>

>

How? What kind of health problems?

I'm so surprised......my thyroid problems come genetically from my mom's

side....who's a hard core meat eater.....she's had breast cancer and she has

allergies, severe arthritis and she is now getting checking for thyroid disease

since I was diagnosed. My dad has been a vegetarian most of his life.....he's

part of that Albert Einstein....nerdy engineer vegetarian bunch! He's in his

late 70's, but you'd think he was in his low 60's. He's extremely healthy

and still mentally sharper than most people my age. My brother and sister in

law are both vegetarians in their 50's and have been most of their lives and are

very healthy.....in fact, my brother in law has a genetic disease he was born

with and he's one of the oldest living people with this disease......no doubt

his vegetarian diet has something to do with his good health. Their daughter

who's studying to be a doctor was raised vegetarian and is very healthy with

no health issues or autoimmune disease. I suspect that if you get health

problems from being a vegetarian maybe you weren't eating a complete diet? I

starved the first year I was vegetarian.......I had to do extensive research and

take a couple of classes, but now I really feel a lot healthier and I check out

the same with the doctor! Hey.....different strokes, but I wouldn't

mention it unless I really believed it works.....just sharing what works for me

very well.

[Guest guest]

You are right, Ella, but tons of internet sites sell phentermine

without prescriptions, it is very easy to get.

Another problem with stuff like Hydroxycut, besides the ephedra,

cause several of them now have ephedra-free drugs, is that they ALL

have aspirin (usually listed as White Willow Bark), and aspirin

messes up with thyroid meds. It increases absorption. So yeah, you

are probably gonna lose weight cause you are gonna go hyperthyroid on

it... not a good idea. Then you are hyperthyroid and taking

stimulants (either ephedra and caffeine or caffeine and guarana, in

the ephedra-free ones). That is a recipe for a heart attack.

Jan

> I could be missunderstanding something here, but Phentermine is NOT

> offered over the counter, in Hydroxycut or any other medication.

It's

> a VERY serious drug and one that is NOT taken or given lightly.

It's

> available by prescription only, and one reason is that a person

> really needs to be monitored WELL while taking it.

>

> I took it a few years back, long after they stopped combining it

with

> the other 'phen' drug. Combined, they made the notorious and

> dangerous " phen-phen. " There are warnings that come with

> Phentermine, and side effects, especially in the first few days,

that

> have to be taken into consideration. For example, they warn agains

> driving or operating heavy machinery for the first few days to see

> how it effects you. Dizziness and foggy thinking are side effects,

> among others.

>

> Hydroxycut doesn't contain phentermine, although it DOES contain

> Ephedra if you don't buy the ephedra-free version. Now Ephedra,

> THAT'S far worse than phentermine ever thought of being! People

have

> had strokes, heart attacks, etc. taking that stuff. Personally, I

> think the FDA is STUPID for not taking that crap off the shelf! I

> have MVP and drank a sports drink (Ripped Fuel) once, not realizing

> it contained ephedra. I ended up with heart palpitations that

lasted

> over an hour..I swear I thought I was going to die that day. I

will

> NEVER take it again, ever. And to think, people without MVP or

other

> health problems have had SERIOUS problems with ephedra. It's

simply

> not worth the risk.

>

> Ella