RE: Re: Bone aches

April 23, 2006

I have a question for both of you: how do you know it's your bones that

are causing the aches and/or pains? Sometimes you can tell by testing

it with an ice-pack and a heating pad: joint problems usually respond

better to cold, and muscle to heat (especially moist heat, like a

Thermophore pad). I don't recall there being any nerve endings inside

the bones themselves, so I'm not sure how " bone pain " registers.

The reason I ask is that I used to be a massage therapist/Holistic

Health Practitioner, and used Travell & Simons' books on trigger points

in my practice. A trigger point is in muscle, or at the junction of

muscle and tendon, but it refers pain elsewhere in the body. They are

very common, and very painful. There are great charts available that

show the region where the pain is felt, and then show the location of

the trigger point. You wouldn't BELIEVE some of the pains that show up

far away from the actual trigger point; these TPs can mimic

appendicitis, heart attack pain, practically anything. You can find and

treat these yourself with simple thumb pressure (Bonnie Pruden's books

can be useful for this).

Also, I have often had a sharp pain between the shoulder blades, that

turned out in some cases to need a simple chiropractic adjustment (the

end of the rib was slightly popped out). Have you tried this? (If you

have osteoporosis, find a gentle chiropractor - they do exist.)

If it's not a joint problem, and seems to be affected by weather, it

could be in the muscles. Try this: put two old tennis balls into a

sock, tying a ribbon or putting a rubber band between the two balls and

to keep the two balls in place. You should have something that looks

like a 3-D figure 8 with a tail. Lie down on a firm surface with the

balls positioned on either side of your spine, right where it hurts.

Use a blanket to keep yourself warm if needed. Now just relax and take

deep, slow breaths. Your body weight will do all the work. It will

start out painful, but as you relax and allow the balls to " penetrate " ,

the pain will lessen and go away. You can start out with just a couple

of minutes if you like, but try to work up to either ten minutes or

until the pain goes away. Sometimes, after the pain is released, I get

so relaxed I fall asleep right on the back balls! If you have many

painful areas in your back, you can treat them all the same way; just

use your feet to push you so that you roll on the back balls until they

hit a painful spot, and stay there a bit. There are wooden jobbies that

are sold for this purpose, but they hurt too much for most people with FM.

netsukeme wrote:

> What keeps me lingering on this question and this post is that I have

> recently started having more pain in the upper part of the

> spine...between where the shoulder blades are.

>

> I relate my increased pain levels directly to the weather changes. I

> don't know if that's " barometer " or something else, but it's the

> worst in the fall, and now spring is coming in a close second.

>

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Schmidt " <schmidtmba@...>

> >

> > > This is the first I have heard someone referring to something

> I've been

> > > wondering about: bone aches. I have CFS/FMS but lately my bones

> have been

> > > hurting and I can't figure out where that comes from. I know

> it's

> > > different from joint aches, but especially on my upper back

> shoulder blade

> > > area the bones hurt.

>

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el (andreafrankel at sbcglobal dot net)

" wake now! Discover that YOU are the song that the morning brings... "

April 23, 2006

Thanks...I will definitely try this.

Re: Re: Bone Aches

I have a question for both of you: how do you know it's your bones that

are causing the aches and/or pains? Sometimes you can tell by testing

it with an ice-pack and a heating pad: joint problems usually respond

better to cold, and muscle to heat (especially moist heat, like a

Thermophore pad). I don't recall there being any nerve endings inside

the bones themselves, so I'm not sure how " bone pain " registers.

The reason I ask is that I used to be a massage therapist/Holistic

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April 23, 2006

I cannot tolerate cold~it makes my muscles cramp up and it takes a lot of heat

to relax them. I LOVE my Thermophore moist heat pad and use it several times a

day when I am aching. I do live on the coast of California and it gets damp and

cold here a lot. I am also having more than usual problems this spring with all

the rainy weather. Interesting, though, when there are huge clouds out and the

wind is blowing, I usually have lots of energy, just not on rainy or foggy days.

My aches in my shoulder area can be relieved by heat and pressure~it's just hard

to push hard myself on the trigger point areas but pressure does relieve some of

the pain for a time. A lot is stress and our teenage son using marijuana right

now. But it feels like the bone sometimes rather than the muscles, and it's not

the joints cuz I know what that feels like and have little of that most of the

time.

My chiropractor has a technique that he just learned that's been around quite a

while, where he finds the tension in my buttocks area, presses on that and then

works his other hand up and down my back~when he gets to the neck I am sighing

with relaxation and relief from the muscle tension. Sometimes it lasts two

days, sometimes a few hours, but it's wonderful and drug-free.

Thank you for the great suggestions with the tennis balls~I've heard the

recommendation but not as detailed as you stated it, so thanks for the extra

tidbits of information.

in La Selva Beach CA