Re: bingeing like crazy, just because

[Guest guest]

Nat excellent post and your English is also excellent. Eva

Hi,

I am sorry you are having a hard time. Did you read the Intuitive eating book by Tribole? I read a couple of books and I like this one better because the steps are very clear.

I am still very new to IE, and I don`t exactly know how to help, but, just want to share with you what worked for me on the first step, which is to reject the diet mentality and give yourself inconditional permission to eat. I felt really weird at the beginning because I did not know what to eat. I started slow, slowly adding food I considered before like the devil, like, white bagels and granola cereals. (I was on very brutal low-carbs diets for a while...) I just introduced one or two forbidden food at the time, because for me it was too overwhelming. The point is to take little baby steps - find your own way to do it. Allow yourself to eat as much as you want, eat when hungry, eat only what you like , eat with all your senses - taste the food, take your time, enjoy it! Maybe you will (or not) find out that you actually don`t like some of that stuff you used to crave. Take it slow, keep us posted.

I hope this help, sorry for the bad english, this is my second language.

Take care,

Nat

Subject: bingeing like crazy, just becauseTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Received: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 1:06 PM

Guys, I hate this! I am overeating nonstop, on oreos, chips, etc, forno reason! I am not upset, I am just eating because this crap is inmy house. I was told to buy all this stuff by the overcomingovereating book. Dieting is bad, but bingeing is, too. How can I get out of this? Andhow do I know what to eat? (I've started reading IE, and so far, I amnot getting any guidance on how to know what and when to eat.)

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I am sorry you are having a hard time. Did you read the Intuitive eating book by Tribole? I read a couple of books and I like this one better because the steps are very clear.

I am still very new to IE, and I don`t exactly know how to help, but, just want to share with you what worked for me on the first step, which is to reject the diet mentality and give yourself inconditional permission to eat. I felt really weird at the beginning because I did not know what to eat. I started slow, slowly adding food I considered before like the devil, like, white bagels and granola cereals. (I was on very brutal low-carbs diets for a while...) I just introduced one or two forbidden food at the time, because for me it was too overwhelming. The point is to take little baby steps - find your own way to do it. Allow yourself to eat as much as you want, eat when hungry, eat only what you like , eat with all your senses - taste the food, take your time, enjoy it! Maybe you will (or not) find out that you actually don`t like some of that stuff you used to crave. Take it slow, keep us posted.

I hope this help, sorry for the bad english, this is my second language.

Take care,

Nat

Subject: bingeing like crazy, just becauseTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Received: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 1:06 PM

Guys, I hate this! I am overeating nonstop, on oreos, chips, etc, forno reason! I am not upset, I am just eating because this crap is inmy house. I was told to buy all this stuff by the overcomingovereating book. Dieting is bad, but bingeing is, too. How can I get out of this? Andhow do I know what to eat? (I've started reading IE, and so far, I amnot getting any guidance on how to know what and when to eat.)

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[Guest guest]

,

The hard part of IE at first is that due to dieting, we are programed

to look for INSTRUCTIONS, namely from an external/outer source than

our own bodies. I can't remember where (which book?) I read about

experimenting with what you eat vs. how long it 'lasts/holds' until

you are hungry again, but that was about the only guidance I found in

regards to 'how much and when'.

Legalizing of previously 'forbidden' foods is also a tough undertaking

too. It requires a leap of faith that you won't just eat and eat and

eat. That at some point you will actually have enough of what you are

eating and realize that 1) its always available and 2) isn't just food

- period.

I know I just read another post here today from a member who has

conquered this hurdle in the IE journey. I hope others will also reply

and let you know that yes, you can and will do this too, but you must

do it to have it.

It took me over a month to legalize chocolate for myself. I can't tell

you how many POUNDS I ate before I 'got it', but it was a mixture of

gleeful fun (the rebellious little kid) and fear of 'fat' (non-model

image me) too.

Last thought- are you trying to legalize just your most feared food or

ALL feared foods at the same time? I know I wasn't up to tackling ALL

these at once so I picked my hottest item - chocolate.

BEST to you and keep posting

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Guys, I hate this! I am overeating nonstop, on oreos, chips, etc, for

> no reason! I am not upset, I am just eating because this crap is in

> my house. I was told to buy all this stuff by the overcoming

> overeating book.

>

> Dieting is bad, but bingeing is, too. How can I get out of this? And

> how do I know what to eat? (I've started reading IE, and so far, I am

> not getting any guidance on how to know what and when to eat.)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

you may want to read post #17688 (at the Yahoo site) by Dawn (posted

this morning). I hope this post answers your question

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Guys, I hate this! I am overeating nonstop, on oreos, chips, etc, for

> no reason! I am not upset, I am just eating because this crap is in

> my house. I was told to buy all this stuff by the overcoming

> overeating book.

>

> Dieting is bad, but bingeing is, too. How can I get out of this? And

> how do I know what to eat? (I've started reading IE, and so far, I am

> not getting any guidance on how to know what and when to eat.)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Nat, your English is MARVELOUS. You are always quite clear and you

have no need to worry about being understood. I tried to teach myself

another language (German) and I never got very good at it, so I know

the fear associated with that. I'm sure a member or two here could

give you a good giggle if they wrote in French!

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I hope this help, sorry for the bad english, this is my second language.

> Take care,

> Nat

[Guest guest]

Hi

Sorry you are having a rough time. Your body knows what to eat. Listen to it. If it is oreos then eat them. Just stop when you are full.

I know it is hard to do this! It takes being gentle with yourself. It takes time. Lots of it. Mindfulness means stopping, asking yourself, am I REALLY hungry? Or am I just craving? What would taste good, what would fill me up, what would satisfy me totally? Then when you make a decision take more time to really eat the food instead of just gulping it down without tasting it fully and completely.

I found when I started (last April) I really had to eat each thing SLOWLY, chewing each bite 20 times, rolling it around in my mouth and truly tasting what ever it was. Feeling the texture and really savoring each morsel made a huge difference for me.

Sometimes when doing that it occurred to me that what I was eating was not that great! You could not pay me to eat chips after doing what I just described with them! Or oreos for that matter either and I used to LOVE them both!

It does not happen overnight. I am still trying and learning what I love to eat now that I realize that much of what I ate before is not all that great. It was a little disconcerting at first too. I mean, did I REALLY not like this stuff or was I just telling myself that?? So I go on each day trying and choosing and hoping I will learn a little more.

One fine example: Mcdonald sausage biscuit with egg and cheese? I LOVED THEM! Last week I ate the last one I ever will and I did not even eat most of it because I tasted that sausage and it was rubbery and slimy. The egg was sponge-like and the bottom of the biscuit was greasy as well. By the time I pulled off what I did not want i ended up with half a biscuit with some cheese on it...the seagulls enjoyed it as I tossed it out the window of the car in the parking lot! LOL I, on the other hand, did not and was just amazed because I really wanted that darn thing! I actually got in my car and drove there to get it because I wanted it so much!

I also found that I was eating when I was not hungry. I still get urges to do so and have recently begun to think it is my way of dealing with stress. I do fine all day long and then in the evenings I want to munch away. It seems once I can slow down and relax and actually think about the day's events and what the next day will bring I lose my mind a little and just want to eat. I also know that as a child there were not too many happy moments. Those that were (holidays, birthdays) were centered around food so food is a soother and happiness pill for me sometimes. Stopping myself from eating when I am not hungry has been a real struggle (as has weighing myself!)

The control you are looking for and answers will come. Just give yourself time, slow down, eat what you want when you are hungry and then stop when full.

Dawn H

bingeing like crazy, just because

Guys, I hate this! I am overeating nonstop, on oreos, chips, etc, forno reason! I am not upset, I am just eating because this crap is inmy house. I was told to buy all this stuff by the overcomingovereating book. Dieting is bad, but bingeing is, too. How can I get out of this? Andhow do I know what to eat? (I've started reading IE, and so far, I amnot getting any guidance on how to know what and when to eat.)

[Guest guest]

yep was doing so well and can't stop trying to put the brakes on

Betty

bingeing like crazy, just because

Guys, I hate this! I am overeating nonstop, on oreos, chips, etc, forno reason! I am not upset, I am just eating because this crap is inmy house. I was told to buy all this stuff by the overcomingovereating book. Dieting is bad, but bingeing is, too. How can I get out of this? Andhow do I know what to eat? (I've started reading IE, and so far, I amnot getting any guidance on how to know what and when to eat.)

[Guest guest]

Hey, thanks Katcha. I tried to learn German too once, and the only word I remember (surprisingly) is...bier (and cafe).

Nat

Subject: Re: bingeing like crazy, just becauseTo: IntuitiveEating_Support Received: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 5:02 PM

Nat, your English is MARVELOUS. You are always quite clear and youhave no need to worry about being understood. I tried to teach myselfanother language (German) and I never got very good at it, so I knowthe fear associated with that. I'm sure a member or two here couldgive you a good giggle if they wrote in French!ehugs, KatchaIEing since March 2007>> I hope this help, sorry for the bad english, this is my second language.> Take care, > Nat

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[Guest guest]

>

..... Dieting is bad, but bingeing is, too. How can I get out of

this? Andhow do I know what to eat? (I've started reading IE, and

so far, I am not getting any guidance on how to know what and when to

eat.)

>

Hi ,

Nice to have you in the group. I remember well those first few weeks

of Intuitive Eating and bingeing on LOTS of fun foods. One of the

things that helped me to stop the bingeing was reading Gillian's " Six

Steps To Guilt-Free Eating " , especially Step 3, which is about the

importance of keeping your blood sugar balanced. I still continued to

eat the fun foods in order to legalize them and I think that is

important, but by eating them after a meal with protein, as Gillian

suggests, I would eat much less of the fun food and not feel so sick

and I would not have more cravings for them an hour or two later.

Dawn posted today about this being an excellent resource and I agree.

It is very comforting to have some guidelines, especially during

those first few weeks of intuitive eating, which can feel rather

scary at times.

Here is the link that Katcha posted as being the correct link for

this document,if you want to check it out:

http://www.healthieroutcomes.com/newsletter.html

Hang in there. It will get better, I promise!

[Guest guest]

, sweetie, you're not eating for no reason – you just don't

know what that reason is at the moment. Overeating nonstop doesn't

really sound like tuning in to your body's needs and appetites. I

get the impression maybe you're a bit afraid – kind of giving IE only

a trial run. Perhaps somehow you're translating IE into: I'd better

eat lots of " bad " foods while I still have the courage to keep them

in the house, like the stupid book says I should. But I think I

can't be trusted around these foods. And I don't know how long I can

keep up this IE thing because my desires (which have been created and

suppressed by the false restrictions of diets) scare me.

Maybe ask yourself - have you truly ditched the diets for good, and

made peace with that fact, no matter what the weight consequences?

Are you committed to learning to eat intuitively for life? Because

if this is only an experiment, in effect it becomes just another (non)

diet. The fact that you're describing what you're eating as " crap "

gives me a hint that you are making negative judgements on these

foods and consequently on yourself for eating them, and that's not

what intuitive eating is about.

Don't be hard on yourself, . And don't forget, this process

takes TIME and PRACTICE. Like any learned skill, intuitive eating

needs to be practised and developed before it becomes routine – you

need to build up your intuitive " muscles " through use and

experience. It may take a lot of Oreo eating, but once you realise

Oreos will always be in the house and you can always have them if you

really want them, they'll lose their appeal and just become another

foodstuff you can choose from.

You may perhaps want to consider trying these simple concepts (which

I find help me):

* When you're actually HUNGRY, eat.

* Eat what you REALLY want, not what you think you SHOULD have. Try

to have a wide range of pleasing choices available if you can.

* Focus on eating consciously and with ENJOYMENT. If you're not

really enjoying what you're eating, don't keep eating it. (I suspect

those binges aren't providing much enjoyment, hey?)

* Stop eating once you feel fullness. Because you can always start

again when your hunger returns (that's the freeing and fun bit).

Hang in there, and trust yourself. I hope you can stay with it.

Don't waste 20 years of your life knowing about IE but being too

afraid and untrusting of yourself to genuinely try working it (like I

did).

Good luck

Sig

>

> Guys, I hate this! I am overeating nonstop, on oreos, chips, etc,

for

> no reason! I am not upset, I am just eating because this crap is in

> my house. I was told to buy all this stuff by the overcoming

> overeating book.

>

> Dieting is bad, but bingeing is, too. How can I get out of this?

And

> how do I know what to eat? (I've started reading IE, and so far, I

am

> not getting any guidance on how to know what and when to eat.)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OMG, Sig, I love this message! You are correct, and very perceptive.

When I say " crap, " I'm judging the food and therefore myself. I have

to let go of it.

You talked about stopping when you are no longer hungry. I just

can't. I read another comment that said, " Stop and ask yourself if

you are still hungry. You can keep eating, of course, but just ask

yourself. " I sometimes have trouble even stopping to ask myself the

question. But so far, I am not able to leave ANYTHING in a container.

I eat EVERY morsel I am given. I wonder when I will be able to leave

food in a dish. It's probably okay that on day two, I'm not there yet.

> >

> > Guys, I hate this! I am overeating nonstop, on oreos, chips, etc,

> for

> > no reason! I am not upset, I am just eating because this crap is in

> > my house. I was told to buy all this stuff by the overcoming

> > overeating book.

> >

> > Dieting is bad, but bingeing is, too. How can I get out of this?

> And

> > how do I know what to eat? (I've started reading IE, and so far, I

> am

> > not getting any guidance on how to know what and when to eat.)

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well you learned all the important words so that is all you need :-)

:-) (giggles - now Styxia, don't scold - I am just making fun of a

very fun group - heck I'm German [American] too!!)

Krazy Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> Hey, thanks Katcha. I tried to learn German too once, and the only

word I remember (surprisingly) is...bier (and cafe).

> Nat

>

[Guest guest]

Sigi want to be MY IE coach?!? You really know what to say - no

kidding. Excellent post Princess

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> , sweetie, you're not eating for no reason – you just don't

> know what that reason is at the moment. Overeating nonstop doesn't

> really sound like tuning in to your body's needs and appetites. I

> get the impression maybe you're a bit afraid – kind of giving IE only

> a trial run. Perhaps somehow you're translating IE into: I'd better

> eat lots of " bad " foods while I still have the courage to keep them

> in the house, like the stupid book says I should. But I think I

> can't be trusted around these foods. And I don't know how long I can

> keep up this IE thing because my desires (which have been created and

> suppressed by the false restrictions of diets) scare me.

>

> Maybe ask yourself - have you truly ditched the diets for good, and

> made peace with that fact, no matter what the weight consequences?

> Are you committed to learning to eat intuitively for life? Because

> if this is only an experiment, in effect it becomes just another (non)

> diet. The fact that you're describing what you're eating as " crap "

> gives me a hint that you are making negative judgements on these

> foods and consequently on yourself for eating them, and that's not

> what intuitive eating is about.

>

> Don't be hard on yourself, . And don't forget, this process

> takes TIME and PRACTICE. Like any learned skill, intuitive eating

> needs to be practised and developed before it becomes routine – you

> need to build up your intuitive " muscles " through use and

> experience. It may take a lot of Oreo eating, but once you realise

> Oreos will always be in the house and you can always have them if you

> really want them, they'll lose their appeal and just become another

> foodstuff you can choose from.

>

> You may perhaps want to consider trying these simple concepts (which

> I find help me):

>

> * When you're actually HUNGRY, eat.

> * Eat what you REALLY want, not what you think you SHOULD have. Try

> to have a wide range of pleasing choices available if you can.

> * Focus on eating consciously and with ENJOYMENT. If you're not

> really enjoying what you're eating, don't keep eating it. (I suspect

> those binges aren't providing much enjoyment, hey?)

> * Stop eating once you feel fullness. Because you can always start

> again when your hunger returns (that's the freeing and fun bit).

>

> Hang in there, and trust yourself. I hope you can stay with it.

> Don't waste 20 years of your life knowing about IE but being too

> afraid and untrusting of yourself to genuinely try working it (like I

> did).

>

> Good luck

> Sig

[Guest guest]

Keep up the good work ! Try whatever appeals to you - dishing

up less on your plate doesn't mean that you can't have more, and it

could help you stop sooner too? If that makes you feel deprived - PILE

on sooooo much you CAN'T eat it all and then congratulate yourself for

being able to (burp!) leave something on the plate? I know that

whenever I do stuff myself these days, the feeling is now

uncomfortable instead of 'familiar', and I feel that's a good sign too.

There are zillions of different ways to eat and maybe all you need is

to find the one or two that works for you Good to have share the IE

journey with you

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> OMG, Sig, I love this message! You are correct, and very perceptive.

> When I say " crap, " I'm judging the food and therefore myself. I have

> to let go of it.

>

> You talked about stopping when you are no longer hungry. I just

> can't. I read another comment that said, " Stop and ask yourself if

> you are still hungry. You can keep eating, of course, but just ask

> yourself. " I sometimes have trouble even stopping to ask myself the

> question. But so far, I am not able to leave ANYTHING in a container.

> I eat EVERY morsel I am given. I wonder when I will be able to leave

> food in a dish. It's probably okay that on day two, I'm not there yet.

>

>

[Guest guest]

You know, sometimes it's easier to listen to and consider someone

else's worries and challenges, offer support and make suggestions, than

it is to analyse your own difficulties. I don't pretend to be a

completely happy and always intuitive eater myself at all, and

sometimes I feel a bit hypocritical I when suggest things that I'm not

yet able to practise fully all the time myself, if things aren't going

well in my life. But I think being here, joining in and supporting

others will hopefully help me with my own IE experience in the long

run – and of course I also gain the benefit of the support and warmth

and great ideas of my friends on this board.

S

xo

>

> Sigi want to be MY IE coach?!? You really know what to say - no

> kidding.

[Guest guest]

I SO know what you mean Sigi! Eyes see OUT, and mirrors can be painful

to look into too. Maybe that is why we are encouraged to 'listen' to

our bodies? Close those eyes and sense our being without seeing only

the surface image.

I am with you 100% on the 'long run' objective - that's my plan as

well And why I love reading posts like yours because it helps me to

'see' what I can't always do for myself. Thanks, and so wonderful to

share this journey with you too.

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

> >

> > Sigi want to be MY IE coach?!? You really know what to say - no

> > kidding.

>

[Guest guest]

Sigi Thanks for sharing this post sand I agree with Katcha you know exactly what to say in response to questions and you are alsovery supportive. Thanks for your posts. Eva

OMG, Sig, I love this message! You are correct, and very perceptive.When I say "crap," I'm judging the food and therefore myself. I haveto let go of it.You talked about stopping when you are no longer hungry. I justcan't. I read another comment that said, "Stop and ask yourself ifyou are still hungry. You can keep eating, of course, but just askyourself." I sometimes have trouble even stopping to ask myself thequestion. But so far, I am not able to leave ANYTHING in a container.I eat EVERY morsel I am given. I wonder when I will be able to leavefood in a dish. It's probably okay that on day two, I'm not there yet.> >> > Guys, I hate this! I am overeating nonstop, on oreos, chips, etc, > for> > no reason! I am not upset, I am just eating because this crap is in> > my house. I was told to buy all this stuff by the overcoming> > overeating book. > > > > Dieting is bad, but bingeing is, too. How can I get out of this? > And> > how do I know what to eat? (I've started reading IE, and so far, I > am> > not getting any guidance on how to know what and when to eat.)> > > > > >>------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

,

When I first got my feral (wild) kitten, she ate four cans of cat food a day. To put that in context, my adult cats shared one can of cat food twice a day. The kitten had been abandoned and starving for most of her life. Now, after eating as much as she could as fast as she could, and the food just kept coming and coming as much as she could eat it, she has reverted to a more normal amount for a kitten.

If you have been dieting and restricting your eating for any length of time, then the behavior you are experiencing is normal. It is biological, and is completely to be expected. Trust that eventually it will stop and you will begin the journey of learning to stop when you are full. You're just not there yet.

traci

Man improves himself as he follows his path; if he stands still, waiting to improve before he makes a decision, he'll never move.-o Coelho

[Guest guest]

Try whatever appeals to you - dishing

> up less on your plate doesn't mean that you can't have more, and it

> could help you stop sooner too? If that makes you feel deprived - PILE

> on sooooo much you CAN'T eat it all and then congratulate yourself for

> being able to (burp!) leave something on the plate?

Hi Katcha:

Thank you for posting this idea! Why didn't I think of that? I

struggle with the whole cleaning my plate thing, and it never occurred

to me that I could pile on more food than I can eat to help me discern

when I am full. It seems when I clean my plate I have this thought in

my head of rebellion: " I am going to eat IT ALL, and YOU can't stop me,

even if I have already reached the point of fullness! " But somehow,

piling on the food and knowing I can't possibly eat it all seems like

it would really help me discern when I am full. I will go try it and

let you know how it goes!!!

I also have a problem when I am not able to eat what I had planned

because I get full before I have finished. For instance, I like to

have some fruit or dessert after dinner, and if I get full first, I

feel deprived if I don't get that sweet taste. MMMM, maybe just a bite

would work instead of the whole thing. I have to work on the concept

of eating one or two bites of a piece of fruit and then putting it

down. It seems impossible to me now.

I recently dished out a big piece of chocolate cake for myself. After

about 4 bites I had had enough, but I just could put it down til it was

gone. I just can't seem to stop in the middle, so I decided that next

time I sould take a smaller piece.

This IE stuff is so exciting and fun. It seems strange to call this

exciting, but I am loving this so much!!

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Great ideas Experimenting and trying out new and different

things/foods seemed so 'weird' at first to me. Afterall IE was SERIOUS

business to me when I started practicing it. Yet in time I came to

understand that dieting was all about 'negatives' - DON'T eat this,

NOT at this time, RESIST your craves etc. IE was basically saying -

kick back, let the natural instincts in you flow etc. And all the diet

mentality that had a grip on me said - oh no! - you can't do that!

I couldn't FEEL my fullness until I was STUFFED, and hunger? well I

had 'hunger' all the time. Distinguishing body hunger from emotional

hunger was like trying to remove salt after it was poured into a glass

of water. So ol' scientific me, I set out to learn for myself eating

and body hunger. I did my experimenting with a timer. I eat, as

mindfully as possible and with a hunger chart right by my plate, then

set my timer for one hour. At the end of that hour I checked in with

myself. Was I hungry? I found out that if I ate someone 'sweet' (carb)

only, after an hour I could be feeling hungry. But if I ate something

with fat, it could be another hour or two before hunger came to me.

Protein could carry me for up to 4 hours! So if I ate only a piece of

toast at breakfast, I could very well be hungry by late morning. But

if I had a bacon and egg breakfast, it might be early afternoon before

I was really ready to eat again.

That one experiment provided me with lots of personal insight so that

I could then go forth and eat with the comfort of trusting MY needs

and meeting them with food choices.

IE encourages the positive because the end results is a happier YOU.

No one needs to go hog wild with radical tests, but having fun with

inventing new and more pleasant ways to (re-) discover what you need

for yourself works well too. Have FUN, be inventive and even playful

:) (Like the time I made a orange and purple marble cake with green

frosting with red sprinkles for my art teacher - he he)

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

>

> Try whatever appeals to you - dishing

> > up less on your plate doesn't mean that you can't have more, and it

> > could help you stop sooner too? If that makes you feel deprived - PILE

> > on sooooo much you CAN'T eat it all and then congratulate yourself for

> > being able to (burp!) leave something on the plate?

>

>

> Hi Katcha:

>

> Thank you for posting this idea! Why didn't I think of that? I

> struggle with the whole cleaning my plate thing, and it never occurred

> to me that I could pile on more food than I can eat to help me discern

> when I am full. It seems when I clean my plate I have this thought in

> my head of rebellion: " I am going to eat IT ALL, and YOU can't stop me,

> even if I have already reached the point of fullness! " But somehow,

> piling on the food and knowing I can't possibly eat it all seems like

> it would really help me discern when I am full. I will go try it and

> let you know how it goes!!!

>

> I also have a problem when I am not able to eat what I had planned

> because I get full before I have finished. For instance, I like to

> have some fruit or dessert after dinner, and if I get full first, I

> feel deprived if I don't get that sweet taste. MMMM, maybe just a bite

> would work instead of the whole thing. I have to work on the concept

> of eating one or two bites of a piece of fruit and then putting it

> down. It seems impossible to me now.

>

> I recently dished out a big piece of chocolate cake for myself. After

> about 4 bites I had had enough, but I just could put it down til it was

> gone. I just can't seem to stop in the middle, so I decided that next

> time I sould take a smaller piece.

>

> This IE stuff is so exciting and fun. It seems strange to call this

> exciting, but I am loving this so much!!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I totally agree...practicing IE has brought alot of fun, joy, and

excitement to my life!

> This IE stuff is so exciting and fun. It seems strange to call this

> exciting, but I am loving this so much!!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't write often, but I keep reading the postings in this site and

I feel like you are all voices in my head----I can't believe how many

people say things I think or feel or do. This whole thing about

cleaning your plate and saying to yourself--I'm going to eat it all

and you can't stop me----are you sure you AREN'T in my head? And the

thing about getting full before you have eaten what you planned

on.....that is sooo hard for me to deal with. I am so disappointed.

It is okay when I am eating out because I get a doggie bag to take

home and I get to have the food, again, later. But if I am at home,

I tend to push on thru it and eat all for some reason. I liked the

ideas that you had about just having a bite of something sweet after

a meal or taking a smaller piece because I also find it hard to sto

in the middle. Thanks

>

>

> Try whatever appeals to you - dishing

> > up less on your plate doesn't mean that you can't have more, and

it

> > could help you stop sooner too? If that makes you feel deprived -

PILE

> > on sooooo much you CAN'T eat it all and then congratulate

yourself for

> > being able to (burp!) leave something on the plate?

>

>

> Hi Katcha:

>

> Thank you for posting this idea! Why didn't I think of that? I

> struggle with the whole cleaning my plate thing, and it never

occurred

> to me that I could pile on more food than I can eat to help me

discern

> when I am full. It seems when I clean my plate I have this thought

in

> my head of rebellion: " I am going to eat IT ALL, and YOU can't stop

me,

> even if I have already reached the point of fullness! " But

somehow,

> piling on the food and knowing I can't possibly eat it all seems

like

> it would really help me discern when I am full. I will go try it

and

> let you know how it goes!!!

>

> I also have a problem when I am not able to eat what I had planned

> because I get full before I have finished. For instance, I like to

> have some fruit or dessert after dinner, and if I get full first, I

> feel deprived if I don't get that sweet taste. MMMM, maybe just a

bite

> would work instead of the whole thing. I have to work on the

concept

> of eating one or two bites of a piece of fruit and then putting it

> down. It seems impossible to me now.

>

> I recently dished out a big piece of chocolate cake for myself.

After

> about 4 bites I had had enough, but I just could put it down til it

was

> gone. I just can't seem to stop in the middle, so I decided that

next

> time I sould take a smaller piece.

>

> This IE stuff is so exciting and fun. It seems strange to call

this

> exciting, but I am loving this so much!!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It took a while for the 'doggie bag' routine to be used by me when

eating out. So I guess its not surprise to find that it was a while

before the light bulb went on for me to do this at HOME too One of

our favorite meals are home made tacos. Fresh made tortillas, chopped

red onions, grated cheeses, lettuce etc. Two of these is a BIG meal

and we both used to chow down on them like starving wolves. Many times

I bemoaned the fact that we didn't have a 'veggie' with this, but

these were so filling that if I made a salad, we picked at it and

ended up OVER filling to eat it. Soooo I got smarter and we eat the

salad with one taco, make up the second one, and put it aside for

eating later. Both of us enjoy the second taco later so much more than

we did when we were stuffing it in right behind the first one because

'they taste soooo good'. One would think microwave ovens hadn't been

invented - lol.

Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I don't write often, but I keep reading the postings in this site and

> I feel like you are all voices in my head----I can't believe how many

> people say things I think or feel or do. This whole thing about

> cleaning your plate and saying to yourself--I'm going to eat it all

> and you can't stop me----are you sure you AREN'T in my head? And the

> thing about getting full before you have eaten what you planned

> on.....that is sooo hard for me to deal with. I am so disappointed.

> It is okay when I am eating out because I get a doggie bag to take

> home and I get to have the food, again, later. But if I am at home,

> I tend to push on thru it and eat all for some reason. I liked the

> ideas that you had about just having a bite of something sweet after

> a meal or taking a smaller piece because I also find it hard to sto

> in the middle. Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome...and yes, we're all in this together. Nice to have you here!

dawnz:)

> >

> >

> > Try whatever appeals to you - dishing

> > > up less on your plate doesn't mean that you can't have more, and

> it

> > > could help you stop sooner too? If that makes you feel deprived -

> PILE

> > > on sooooo much you CAN'T eat it all and then congratulate

> yourself for

> > > being able to (burp!) leave something on the plate?

> >

> >

> > Hi Katcha:

> >

> > Thank you for posting this idea! Why didn't I think of that? I

> > struggle with the whole cleaning my plate thing, and it never

> occurred

> > to me that I could pile on more food than I can eat to help me

> discern

> > when I am full. It seems when I clean my plate I have this thought

> in

> > my head of rebellion: " I am going to eat IT ALL, and YOU can't stop

> me,

> > even if I have already reached the point of fullness! " But

> somehow,

> > piling on the food and knowing I can't possibly eat it all seems

> like

> > it would really help me discern when I am full. I will go try it

> and

> > let you know how it goes!!!

> >

> > I also have a problem when I am not able to eat what I had planned

> > because I get full before I have finished. For instance, I like to

> > have some fruit or dessert after dinner, and if I get full first, I

> > feel deprived if I don't get that sweet taste. MMMM, maybe just a

> bite

> > would work instead of the whole thing. I have to work on the

> concept

> > of eating one or two bites of a piece of fruit and then putting it

> > down. It seems impossible to me now.

> >

> > I recently dished out a big piece of chocolate cake for myself.

> After

> > about 4 bites I had had enough, but I just could put it down til it

> was

> > gone. I just can't seem to stop in the middle, so I decided that

> next

> > time I sould take a smaller piece.

> >

> > This IE stuff is so exciting and fun. It seems strange to call

> this

> > exciting, but I am loving this so much!!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

" Both of us enjoy the second taco later so much more than

> we did when we were stuffing it in right behind the first one because

> 'they taste soooo good'. One would think microwave ovens hadn't been

> invented - lol.

>

> Katcha

> IEing since March 2007 "

Katcha...you just crack me up!! Thanks for helping me not get

caught in the " poor me " syndrome, and instead see the laughter in even

this!

dawnz