This Reduced Fat CR*P! (and husband rant)

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to do something I wanted to do for a long time but never

allowed myself (because it's so BAD BAD BAD!). I wanted to put some

peanut flips my husband baught today into a bowl and eat them while

watching TV.

I put some of them into a bowl, got in front of the computer and TV,

grabbed a few, put them in my mouth and thought: " EEEEEEW! "

I remembered them differently. These things tasted exactly like air. I

also imagine a carton maybe tasting like this, too. I wondered if they

had gone bad or something but when I looked at the bag I saw this " 30%

fat reduced " print on it. I don't mind a few fat reduced products but

these were just nasty. I put them back into the bag. Ew!

I HATE HATE HATE these awful tasting low-fat or no-fat products except a

few exceptions. My husband continues buying them. Not that he loses

weight with them. And not that it prevents him bingeing on the full-fat

stuff I bring into the house. As soon as I open my full-fat cheese he

eats it, too. As soon as I open the full-fat Turkish yoghurt he eats it,

too.

When I asked him a few weeks ago why he continues to buy the more

expensive, not as good tasting low-fat products only to eat my full-fat

products as well, he had no answer for me.

I don't really mind having two sets of products in our fridge. Why

should I? If he wants to go for the low-fat stuff, he should do it. But

I absolutely hate that he eats the stuff I got for me. Why? Because I

got enough of these products for ONE person only (after all he said

repeatedly: I don't want anything from the full-fat stuff). So in the

end it's always like this: the full-fat stuff gets eaten FIRST and then

only the nasty stuff (these wax-like cheeses for example) is sitting in

the fridge, leaving me frustrated because he e. g. ate something I

looked forward to for breakfast the other day and I have to go shopping

again to get what I want (and yes, I'm too lazy to drive 15 min to

replace that feta boerek from the Turkish grocery store).

So I changed strategy and baught more of the full-fat stuff in the first

place. Alas, this only resulted in him scarfing down more of it and

leaving me with nasty stuff to eat again.

Another thing that bugs me lately is his " I don't want to eat anything

for dinner. Get yourself what you want to. " And so I do. I usually cook

something. And then for one person only because he said he doesn't want

something. However, maybe two hours later I find him standing in front

of the fridge or microwave, preparing himself some food and stuffing

down potato chips. So he didn't want some rice earlier " because of the

carbs and his diabetes " and there he is now stuffing down chips as if

these wouldn't be containing carbs![1]

So I changed strategies again, cooking enough for two. I take what I

want and then put the rest of it in the fridge (after all I know that he

usually will want to eat something anyway and with a few exceptions he

likes what I cook). Alas, the end of the story is: he eats his salad or

whatever first and THEN goes for the leftovers, resulting in eating even

more.

In a quiet minnute a few days ago I asked him about the book I gave him

a while ago[1]. He didn't even open it! Not even to inform himself about

what I was doing. I felt quite angry.

There are some more things I could talk about but I feel like enough of

a bitch already. :-/

Regards

s.

[1] I admit I got quite angry because of this behavior a few days ago.

Because who is the one who has to endure his rants about " his blood

sugar being too high " ? Yes, I AM that person! And I'm sick of it. I'm

also sick of him claiming his blood sugar is only high " because of

stress " . Yeah, right...

[2] Two years ago the first time? (I wanted him to know what I was

doing.) A few months ago the second time? I got a German copy of a ND

book so he didn't have to read it in English.

[Guest guest]

Styxia - Its SO HARD to do this (IE) for yourself when you have 'help'

like your hubby is (not!) giving you. But the bottom line is that it

really is an individual thing. The 'food wars' that your husband and

you are going through reminded me of what my older brother had to do

with his room mates when he was a poor young guy on his own (for first

time) - he actually put a PADLOCK on his milk carton including a line

and date for each use or the room mates would leave him none. I think

they all ended up with a personal cabinet for their own foods and

usually locked too. Looking back its rather funny, but NOT when you

are hungry and your food has been eaten.

I do hope you can make your point about you being able to enjoy the

food you want without having to wrestle with your husband for it

either. Sure he is welcome to what he wants too, but you really do

need to know what that is before you shop and not when you find all

you have is what he thought he wanted, but ate yours instead :(

Hope you are holding together for your test - its must be SOON. BEST

BEST wishes for completing this without your head bursting open and

passing it with good grades too. We all want to hear your cheer of joy

from Germany to USA by your voice alone :)

ehugs, Katcha

IEing since March 2007

>

> I just wanted to do something I wanted to do for a long time but never

> allowed myself (because it's so BAD BAD BAD!). I wanted to put some

> peanut flips my husband baught today into a bowl and eat them while

> watching TV.

>

> I put some of them into a bowl, got in front of the computer and TV,

> grabbed a few, put them in my mouth and thought: " EEEEEEW! "

>

> I remembered them differently. These things tasted exactly like air. I

> also imagine a carton maybe tasting like this, too. I wondered if they

> had gone bad or something but when I looked at the bag I saw this " 30%

> fat reduced " print on it. I don't mind a few fat reduced products but

> these were just nasty. I put them back into the bag. Ew!

>

> I HATE HATE HATE these awful tasting low-fat or no-fat products except a

> few exceptions. My husband continues buying them. Not that he loses

> weight with them. And not that it prevents him bingeing on the full-fat

> stuff I bring into the house. As soon as I open my full-fat cheese he

> eats it, too. As soon as I open the full-fat Turkish yoghurt he eats it,

> too.

>

> When I asked him a few weeks ago why he continues to buy the more

> expensive, not as good tasting low-fat products only to eat my full-fat

> products as well, he had no answer for me.

>

> I don't really mind having two sets of products in our fridge. Why

> should I? If he wants to go for the low-fat stuff, he should do it. But

> I absolutely hate that he eats the stuff I got for me. Why? Because I

> got enough of these products for ONE person only (after all he said

> repeatedly: I don't want anything from the full-fat stuff). So in the

> end it's always like this: the full-fat stuff gets eaten FIRST and then

> only the nasty stuff (these wax-like cheeses for example) is sitting in

> the fridge, leaving me frustrated because he e. g. ate something I

> looked forward to for breakfast the other day and I have to go shopping

> again to get what I want (and yes, I'm too lazy to drive 15 min to

> replace that feta boerek from the Turkish grocery store).

>

> So I changed strategy and baught more of the full-fat stuff in the first

> place. Alas, this only resulted in him scarfing down more of it and

> leaving me with nasty stuff to eat again.

>

> Another thing that bugs me lately is his " I don't want to eat anything

> for dinner. Get yourself what you want to. " And so I do. I usually cook

> something. And then for one person only because he said he doesn't want

> something. However, maybe two hours later I find him standing in front

> of the fridge or microwave, preparing himself some food and stuffing

> down potato chips. So he didn't want some rice earlier " because of the

> carbs and his diabetes " and there he is now stuffing down chips as if

> these wouldn't be containing carbs![1]

>

> So I changed strategies again, cooking enough for two. I take what I

> want and then put the rest of it in the fridge (after all I know that he

> usually will want to eat something anyway and with a few exceptions he

> likes what I cook). Alas, the end of the story is: he eats his salad or

> whatever first and THEN goes for the leftovers, resulting in eating even

> more.

>

> In a quiet minnute a few days ago I asked him about the book I gave him

> a while ago[1]. He didn't even open it! Not even to inform himself about

> what I was doing. I felt quite angry.

>

> There are some more things I could talk about but I feel like enough of

> a bitch already. :-/

>

> Regards

> s.

>

> [1] I admit I got quite angry because of this behavior a few days ago.

> Because who is the one who has to endure his rants about " his blood

> sugar being too high " ? Yes, I AM that person! And I'm sick of it. I'm

> also sick of him claiming his blood sugar is only high " because of

> stress " . Yeah, right...

>

> [2] Two years ago the first time? (I wanted him to know what I was

> doing.) A few months ago the second time? I got a German copy of a ND

> book so he didn't have to read it in English.

>

[Guest guest]

Haha! Isn't it crazy when we actually take the time to chew and taste

that half of the stuff that seemed soooooooooooo good just insn't

worth the taste (and calories?) now?

>

> I just wanted to do something I wanted to do for a long time but never

> allowed myself (because it's so BAD BAD BAD!). I wanted to put some

> peanut flips my husband baught today into a bowl and eat them while

> watching TV.

>

> I put some of them into a bowl, got in front of the computer and TV,

> grabbed a few, put them in my mouth and thought: " EEEEEEW! "

>

> I remembered them differently. These things tasted exactly like air. I

> also imagine a carton maybe tasting like this, too. I wondered if they

> had gone bad or something but when I looked at the bag I saw this " 30%

> fat reduced " print on it. I don't mind a few fat reduced products but

> these were just nasty. I put them back into the bag. Ew!

>

> I HATE HATE HATE these awful tasting low-fat or no-fat products except a

> few exceptions. My husband continues buying them. Not that he loses

> weight with them. And not that it prevents him bingeing on the full-fat

> stuff I bring into the house. As soon as I open my full-fat cheese he

> eats it, too. As soon as I open the full-fat Turkish yoghurt he eats it,

> too.

>

> When I asked him a few weeks ago why he continues to buy the more

> expensive, not as good tasting low-fat products only to eat my full-fat

> products as well, he had no answer for me.

>

> I don't really mind having two sets of products in our fridge. Why

> should I? If he wants to go for the low-fat stuff, he should do it. But

> I absolutely hate that he eats the stuff I got for me. Why? Because I

> got enough of these products for ONE person only (after all he said

> repeatedly: I don't want anything from the full-fat stuff). So in the

> end it's always like this: the full-fat stuff gets eaten FIRST and then

> only the nasty stuff (these wax-like cheeses for example) is sitting in

> the fridge, leaving me frustrated because he e. g. ate something I

> looked forward to for breakfast the other day and I have to go shopping

> again to get what I want (and yes, I'm too lazy to drive 15 min to

> replace that feta boerek from the Turkish grocery store).

>

> So I changed strategy and baught more of the full-fat stuff in the first

> place. Alas, this only resulted in him scarfing down more of it and

> leaving me with nasty stuff to eat again.

>

> Another thing that bugs me lately is his " I don't want to eat anything

> for dinner. Get yourself what you want to. " And so I do. I usually cook

> something. And then for one person only because he said he doesn't want

> something. However, maybe two hours later I find him standing in front

> of the fridge or microwave, preparing himself some food and stuffing

> down potato chips. So he didn't want some rice earlier " because of the

> carbs and his diabetes " and there he is now stuffing down chips as if

> these wouldn't be containing carbs![1]

>

> So I changed strategies again, cooking enough for two. I take what I

> want and then put the rest of it in the fridge (after all I know that he

> usually will want to eat something anyway and with a few exceptions he

> likes what I cook). Alas, the end of the story is: he eats his salad or

> whatever first and THEN goes for the leftovers, resulting in eating even

> more.

>

> In a quiet minnute a few days ago I asked him about the book I gave him

> a while ago[1]. He didn't even open it! Not even to inform himself about

> what I was doing. I felt quite angry.

>

> There are some more things I could talk about but I feel like enough of

> a bitch already. :-/

>

> Regards

> s.

>

> [1] I admit I got quite angry because of this behavior a few days ago.

> Because who is the one who has to endure his rants about " his blood

> sugar being too high " ? Yes, I AM that person! And I'm sick of it. I'm

> also sick of him claiming his blood sugar is only high " because of

> stress " . Yeah, right...

>

> [2] Two years ago the first time? (I wanted him to know what I was

> doing.) A few months ago the second time? I got a German copy of a ND

> book so he didn't have to read it in English.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm taling this day off from studying, the weather outside is horrible,

I feel locked-in and I don't know what to do with the day, so prepare

for a long post:

Katcha wrote:

> Styxia - Its SO HARD to do this (IE) for yourself when you have 'help'

> like your hubby is (not!) giving you.

I think he can't help it. He gets fatter and fatter, trying to lose

weight - and he's failing just like I did. What's making me angry though

is that he didn't even took a glance at the book I gave him. I don't

want to persuade him to do IE but I would have appreciated if he read

the book to inform himself about what I am doing.

> But the bottom line is that it

> really is an individual thing. The 'food wars' that your husband and

> you are going through reminded me of what my older brother had to do

> with his room mates when he was a poor young guy on his own (for first

> time)

I think it is more that my husband has all these good intentions to diet

and " be good " and then with all the better tasting food in the house he

can't help but binge, saying to himself " I'll start eating good

tomorrow " .

I can remember some days ago when he went for a second portion and

complaining about being overly stuffed after eating it. I asked him:

" Why did you eat that much of it in one sitting if you're not hungry

anymore? You could have eaten it later. After all we have a microwave. "

He said: " I don't want anything later. " I was like " Huh? How can he know

that? I can't tell if I want something to eat a few hours later. " But I

didn't say anything because I didn't want to start a discussion.

I don't think he's doing the things he does just to make me angry. I

think he can't help it and usually I don't mind cooking for one or

having diet stuff in the house as long as I don't have to eat it.

What's making it harder for me though is that I can't keep stuff like

Pringles, kroepoek, wasabi peas and the like open in the house because

he binges on it. This is causing the effect that I want to " get

something of it while I still can " .

I tried buying more of it but to some foods there are limits[1], which

usually just results in him eating more of it. What's funny is that he

didn't like these wasabi peas in the past. Now he says he loves them. I

don't know what changed his taste but after all he now likes tofu as

well so I guess tastes sometimes just change.

Now I do something I really hate because my mother used to do this as

well: I hide some food from him. I have a tiny tub of wasabi peas and a

bag of kroepoek sitting in a cupboard where I stash my books so I can

have them any time I like. I don't like being sneaky but at least now I

have the " security " that I can have these foods anytime I like. These

foods are a bit special for me right now since I would have to drive an

hour into the next big city (where I used to lived during med school) to

get these foods from the Asian supermarket. It's different with stuff I

can get from the grocery store that's only a five minute walk away.

> I do hope you can make your point about you being able to enjoy the

> food you want without having to wrestle with your husband for it

> either. Sure he is welcome to what he wants too, but you really do

> need to know what that is before you shop and not when you find all

> you have is what he thought he wanted, but ate yours instead :(

Yes, I can remember discussing this a few times already during the last

months. I think I was quite polite but I could feel that he felt like I

was trying to control his food intake when all I wanted to know was if I

should buy more of this or that so there would be enough of it in the

house over the weekend (stores in Germany are closed on Sundays for

example) and I could feel him getting quite pissed saying: " I don't want

anything of it! "

I try to be a careful as I can because I know it's a difficult thing to

talk about and I know how sensitive I can be about it but I'm not very

successful as it seems.

I asked him if it would be easier for him if I wouldn't buy all this

good stuff. He didn't really say " yes " but I could feel him saying

" yes " . I told him that I can't manage dieting anymore, especially not

with my upcoming exam. I don't have that energy anymore. He said he has

to do it on his own and that he can understand. I tried to offer some

compromises when it comes to cooking, e. g. if he would like to prepare

me some stuff he could alter to meet his needs but in the end he likes

better what I am eating (well, usually).

My husband had an appointment at our GP's office last week and of course

got told to eat less and different things because his bloodwork wasn't

that good at all. I'd rather have him appointments at another one of the

MDs there (there are five), the one I go to with my diabetes[2]. I like

his attitude better. He asked me what I was eating since I lost weight

during the last year and I said " everything I want, including the " bad

stuff " as well " . He seemed to be a bit surprised (or not believing me at

all, lol) but I liked his attitude: " Why should I tell a patient with

good blood work who has lost weight to change the diet? It wouldn't make

any sense, right? "

> Hope you are holding together for your test - its must be SOON. BEST

> BEST wishes for completing this without your head bursting open and

> passing it with good grades too. We all want to hear your cheer of joy

> from Germany to USA by your voice alone :)

My husband is quite supportive regarding my test. He does most of the

shopping, not turning loud the TV while I'm studying even tough he woukd

like to watch a show etc.

My test is next week (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday) and I hope despite

the fear of self-sabotage I'll pass. I try to focus on that a passed

exam will make me feel better and that I don't have to get a job a few

days after I passed and that I can take my time AFTER a passed exam way

more relaxed than after failing it and having to wait six months for the

next try. I want to pass. I'm sick of this whole stuff. I can't imagine

going through this again.

Regards

s.

[1] either because the food is comparatively expensive or because I'm

limited to a backpack and two bags on a full train which isn't fun at

all.

[2] I go to a different one with my achilles tendon and upper back

because he is a former surgeon and knows better about bone and muscle

issues. It's nice to have GPs with different backgrounds in one office.

[Guest guest]

Hi Styxia:

A lot of this sounds very familiar to me and happens in my house as

well. Basically with one person wanting to restrict " bad " food and

another not. The restrictive person clucks and judges when I buy

" bad " food so I buy less. Then that same person wants to eat it in a

fit of " weakness " so that there is not enough for others who wanted it

in the first place. We have in the past bought certain things and

designated them to a specific person, and they have hidden them in a

special place.

Since you seem not to want to " sneak " food, how about telling him you

are happy to buy him whatever he wants, but you are going to buy

yourself certain things and hide them away. Then you are not sneaking

things behind his back, but you are still squirreling the things away

that you want. It also will take the temptation away from him because

these foods will not be staring at him whenever he opens the cupboard.

I would guess his behavior brings up unpleasant feelings in him.

I certainly can sympathise with both sides. It is hard to make a vow

not to eat certain foods and then have them right in front of you.

This is what we are all trying to heal. If you have your own stash

you are able to take care of your needs without feeling deceptive.

Being up front with what you're doing sets a good example to him, and

maybe he will pick up the book when he sees you become more and more

healthy.

Best wishes on your test next week. It won't be long before it will

be over, yay!!

[Guest guest]

I agree with you , I can relate to BOTH sides of Styxia's story.

I can understand how she feels, and I would be very annoyed if my

husband ate foods I specifically bought for myself. I always make it

a point to tell him as " politely " as I can that I plan on eating

the " x " or " y " in the refrigerator so " HANDS OFF! " :-) He is very

good about complying with my request.

But I can also relate to what Styxia's husband is doing. For most of

my adult life, I have filled my pantry and refrigerator with some

fairly unappealing foods because of the " diet du jour " I was on. And

in recent years, now that I cannot do the shopping because of my

caregiving responsibilities, my husband was saddled with the task of

finding all my weird diet foods. " Be sure to get unsweetened

cranberry juice. It's in the natural foods section. Get me the whole

flax seeds, not the ground. " And he has had to endure more strange

holiday meals than I care to think about. There was the Mediterranean

diet Thanksgiving, the low fat Thanksgiving, the low carb

Thanksgiving, and many, many sugar free Thanksgivings. My family

started wising up and bringing their own pies for desserts so they

wouldn't have to eat my god awful concoctions.

Then, on the flip side, the day after Thanksgiving, I would be the

one wolfing down all the tasty pies my family brought, in full binge

mode. And the day after my husband spent hours looking for flax seeds

and unsweetened this and that, I would send him on an emergency run

to the corner store for pizza or donuts or candy or soda or cakes or

whatever I wanted to binge on. And the man never said one word about

it. What can I say? The man is a saint.

It is hard enough having one person with disordered eating habits

under one roof. But the more there are, the more complicated it gets!

Try not to take it too personally, Styxia, especially about your

husband's refusal to read the book. What I generally have found is

that when people choose not to learn about Intuitive Eating (which is

practically EVERYONE I know), it is not so much a case of them not

trusting me as a case of them not trusting themselves. And we ALL

know how difficult it can be to really and truly trust ourselves. I

know I struggle with that issue constantly and probably will for a

long time.

>

> Hi Styxia:

>

> A lot of this sounds very familiar to me and happens in my house

as

> well. Basically with one person wanting to restrict " bad " food and

> another not. The restrictive person clucks and judges when I buy

> " bad " food so I buy less. Then that same person wants to eat it in

a

> fit of " weakness " so that there is not enough for others who wanted

it

> in the first place. We have in the past bought certain things and

> designated them to a specific person, and they have hidden them in a

> special place.

>

> Since you seem not to want to " sneak " food, how about telling him

you

> are happy to buy him whatever he wants, but you are going to buy

> yourself certain things and hide them away. Then you are not

sneaking

> things behind his back, but you are still squirreling the things

away

> that you want. It also will take the temptation away from him

because

> these foods will not be staring at him whenever he opens the

cupboard.

> I would guess his behavior brings up unpleasant feelings in him.

>

>

> I certainly can sympathise with both sides. It is hard to make a

vow

> not to eat certain foods and then have them right in front of you.

> This is what we are all trying to heal. If you have your own stash

> you are able to take care of your needs without feeling deceptive.

> Being up front with what you're doing sets a good example to him,

and

> maybe he will pick up the book when he sees you become more and more

> healthy.

>

> Best wishes on your test next week. It won't be long before it

will

> be over, yay!!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry there are two mails I wanted to reply to are waiting here

since like forever. This is one of them. The other will follow in a

couple of minutes.

wrote:

> A lot of this sounds very familiar to me and happens in my house as

> well. Basically with one person wanting to restrict " bad " food and

> another not. The restrictive person clucks and judges when I buy

> " bad " food so I buy less. Then that same person wants to eat it in a

> fit of " weakness " so that there is not enough for others who wanted it

> in the first place. We have in the past bought certain things and

> designated them to a specific person, and they have hidden them in a

> special place.

Sounds exactly like my situation. I hope I can bring up this issue with

" labeling foods " without hurting him. It would be so much easier if he

could bring himself to ing one of the IE books (not saying that he

should following this route, only informing himself like I did when he

was on WW. Isn't he curious like I would be?).

> Since you seem not to want to " sneak " food, how about telling him you

> are happy to buy him whatever he wants, but you are going to buy

> yourself certain things and hide them away. Then you are not sneaking

> things behind his back, but you are still squirreling the things away

> that you want.

I can remember doing this for a while. It didn't really work since a lot

of the stuff would have to be refrigerated. We didn't follow through

with this for a long time since I moved into my little flat Monday to

Friday and didn't care about the two days there wasn't everything

availble I liked. Same with being three months abroad. I didn't have to

worry about these things.

I always write grocery lists (he does most of the shopping at the

moment) and ask him " what do you want? " but I don't know if that goes

right one ear in and the other ear out, e. g. I want beer, he asks " how

much? " and then I say " I want two, if you want beer too, buy as much as

you like " . Or I write down the list and ask him if something is missing

or that he should write down the stuff he wants to have (like cold cuts

or pre-sliced cheese) or simply decide at the shop what he wants to

have. The interesting thing is: sometimes this works and sometimes not.

Last weekend it worked. Not counting the usual " male problems " with

shopping and grocery lists of course[1].

> It also will take the temptation away from him because

> these foods will not be staring at him whenever he opens the cupboard.

> I would guess his behavior brings up unpleasant feelings in him.

Yes, he feels awful when he binges.

> I certainly can sympathise with both sides.

Me, too. I'd HATE to have someone bringing in yummy stuff while I am

trying to restrict these same foods.

> It is hard to make a vow

> not to eat certain foods and then have them right in front of you.

Indeed. However, when his cravings really hit, he goes out shopping for

" his bad foods " .

> Best wishes on your test next week. It won't be long before it will

> be over, yay!!

Three more weeks and I have the hardest time motivating myself...

Regards

s.

[1] Well, if we don't count in the usual " I couldn't find it! " or " This

was out! " (Honey, it's only available at the cheese counter, not at the

self-service counter and I wrote it on the list so you will know.) or " I

didn't know you wanted pasta without eggs! " (Yes, big surprise I want

pasta without eggs, I ALWAYS want pasta without eggs because I seem to

be unable to cook pasta with eggs in a way that makes it edible.)

[Guest guest]

wrote:

> But I can also relate to what Styxia's husband is doing. For most of

> my adult life, I have filled my pantry and refrigerator with some

> fairly unappealing foods because of the " diet du jour " I was on.

I can relate, too. Maybe that's why I'm so hesitant to be egoistic when

it comes to this.

> And

> in recent years, now that I cannot do the shopping because of my

> caregiving responsibilities, my husband was saddled with the task of

> finding all my weird diet foods. " Be sure to get unsweetened

> cranberry juice. It's in the natural foods section. Get me the whole

> flax seeds, not the ground. "

I'm a pest when it comes to shopping. My husband does most of the

shopping right now. I usually write detailed grocery lists but sometimes

I think he doesn't read them or something. I mean there is a reason I

ask for the specific brand of smoked tofu. The simple reason is: the

other one available in this shop just tastes AWFUL. Of course he brings

in the awful-tasting brand and then complains it tastes awful. Right.

I hate when I write grocery lists and he comes home with different

stuff. There was a reason I wrote it on the list. The reason is: I

want/need it. You can't do Lahmacun with a thick flat bread. You need a

special kind of bread.

> It is hard enough having one person with disordered eating habits

> under one roof. But the more there are, the more complicated it gets!

I think so. It's very frustrating.

> Try not to take it too personally, Styxia, especially about your

> husband's refusal to read the book.

I try. However, I still don't understand why he isn't the slightest bit

curious about what I am doing. I always informed myself about the

" dieting stuff " he did. WW, BCM, his diabetes diet... Just reading about

it doesn't mean I have to do it, right?

Regards

s.

[Guest guest]

I can understand your frustration, Styxia. My husband and I never

seem to be in synch with our eating. Usually it was because I was

dieting - now it's because he is dieting! I feel like I'm restricted

because of what he won't eat and that makes me want to eat nothing

but junk! Sigh.

And don't even get me started on men looking for things. Socks,

groceries, the TV remote. Oy!!

As far as IE, we haven't even discussed it yet. All I told him is

that I don't want to ever hear my child say the word " points " in

regards to food, so that's why I quit WW'ers!

>

> > But I can also relate to what Styxia's husband is doing. For most

of

> > my adult life, I have filled my pantry and refrigerator with some

> > fairly unappealing foods because of the " diet du jour " I was on.

>

> I can relate, too. Maybe that's why I'm so hesitant to be egoistic

when

> it comes to this.

>

>

> > And

> > in recent years, now that I cannot do the shopping because of my

> > caregiving responsibilities, my husband was saddled with the task

of

> > finding all my weird diet foods. " Be sure to get unsweetened

> > cranberry juice. It's in the natural foods section. Get me the

whole

> > flax seeds, not the ground. "

>

> I'm a pest when it comes to shopping. My husband does most of the

> shopping right now. I usually write detailed grocery lists but

sometimes

> I think he doesn't read them or something. I mean there is a reason

I

> ask for the specific brand of smoked tofu. The simple reason is: the

> other one available in this shop just tastes AWFUL. Of course he

brings

> in the awful-tasting brand and then complains it tastes awful.

Right.

>

> I hate when I write grocery lists and he comes home with different

> stuff. There was a reason I wrote it on the list. The reason is: I

> want/need it. You can't do Lahmacun with a thick flat bread. You

need a

> special kind of bread.

>

>

> > It is hard enough having one person with disordered eating habits

> > under one roof. But the more there are, the more complicated it

gets!

>

> I think so. It's very frustrating.

>

>

> > Try not to take it too personally, Styxia, especially about your

> > husband's refusal to read the book.

>

> I try. However, I still don't understand why he isn't the slightest

bit

> curious about what I am doing. I always informed myself about the

> " dieting stuff " he did. WW, BCM, his diabetes diet... Just reading

about

> it doesn't mean I have to do it, right?

>

> Regards

> s.

>

[Guest guest]

jennie_4 wrote:

> And don't even get me started on men looking for things. Socks,

> groceries, the TV remote. Oy!!

Keys, his cell phone, the doggie's leash...

ugh

Regards

s.

[Guest guest]

Styxia

I understand how it feels that your husband won't read the book - mine won't either. He is not very interested in my recovery process around food - including IE.

Oh well. I'm doing it anyways!!

Kim

IE since Aug 08> But I can also relate to what Styxia's husband is doing. For most of > my adult life, I have filled my pantry and refrigerator with some > fairly unappealing foods because of the "diet du jour" I was on. I can relate, too. Maybe that's why I'm so hesitant to be egoistic whenit comes to this.> And > in recent years, now that I cannot do the shopping because of my > caregiving responsibilities, my husband was saddled with the task of > finding all my weird diet foods. "Be sure to get unsweetened > cranberry juice. It's in the natural foods section. Get me the whole > flax seeds, not the ground." I'm a pest when it comes to shopping. My husband does most of theshopping right now. I usually write detailed grocery lists but sometimesI think he

doesn't read them or something. I mean there is a reason Iask for the specific brand of smoked tofu. The simple reason is: theother one available in this shop just tastes AWFUL. Of course he bringsin the awful-tasting brand and then complains it tastes awful. Right.I hate when I write grocery lists and he comes home with differentstuff. There was a reason I wrote it on the list. The reason is: Iwant/need it. You can't do Lahmacun with a thick flat bread. You need aspecial kind of bread.> It is hard enough having one person with disordered eating habits > under one roof. But the more there are, the more complicated it gets!I think so. It's very frustrating.> Try not to take it too personally, Styxia, especially about your > husband's refusal to read the book.I try. However, I still don't understand why he isn't the slightest bitcurious about what I am doing. I always

informed myself about the"dieting stuff" he did. WW, BCM, his diabetes diet... Just reading aboutit doesn't mean I have to do it, right?Regardss.