Re: Flu Shot Question

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> Please let me know your thoughts, experiences and

> recommendations.

>

> Robbin

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Our family does not take flu shots, but last year a homeopathic remedy

called Dolivaxil (influenzinum) made by Delosis was highly recommended to me

by a researcher. Three members of our family have compromised immune

systems and every year they have at least three infectious episodes that

cause them to be quite sick and lose work. I decided to try it. Bottom

line? All three members sailed through the winter with no problems.

Coincidence? I don't know but I've bought it for them again this winter.

Delosis sold out to Boiron but Boiron makes the product. They call it

Influenzinum. A fresh batch is made each year and usually released by mid

October.

I bought 9C strength in a multidose pak of about 75-80 pellets. You take 10

pellets under the tongue once a week for four weeks, wait three weeks and

then take 10 more pellets. Cost was $6.29 per pak.

I ordered from Budget Pharmacy in Miami, FL. - 1-800-221-9772. You can call

Boiron for the closest distributor to you. Boiron's number is

1-800-258-8823

Ethel

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Hi, Robbin:

PERSONALLY, I would not go NEAR this stuff. They are still using the mercury

compound thimerosal as a perservative.

Look on Dr. Mercola's site and even www.waynegreen.com has an opinion (of

course); this is one I agree with...

Health, to You,

Robbin <whitewaterwitch42@...> wrote:Good morning all, since being

diagnosed with PM last

year I have been unable to get an answer about taking

the flu shot. So, I am putting it out to the group for

you responses. I also have asthma and usually do take

the flu shot as well as the pneumonia shot (every 3

years I beleive). I skipped the flu shot last year due

to being in the middle of diagnosis phase and then the

shortage of the vaccine plus I was not feeling well at

all and thought that if I took it I would be asking

for trouble.

Please let me know your thoughts, experiences and

recommendations.

Robbin

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I'm not and never have.

-- [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question

I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu shots.I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call center. What are your thoughts? Thanks,

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I NEVER get one nor do I get the ammonia shot

--- mitzi0099 <mitzi0099@...> wrote:

> I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a

> flu shot this year?

> I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about

> flu season and flu

> shots.

>

> I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in

> an environment that

> people get sick all the time and still come to work,

> I work in a call

> center.

>

> What are your thoughts?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

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whats an ammonia shot?

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question

I NEVER get one nor do I get the ammonia shot--- mitzi0099 <mitzi0099 > wrote:> I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a> flu shot this year? > I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about> flu season and flu > shots.> > I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in> an environment that > people get sick all the time and still come to work,> I work in a call > center. > > What are your thoughts? > > Thanks,> > > > > > __________________________________________________

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Sounds kinky! :-) Or the act of a true druggie desperado!!

Dave Carlin wrote:

> whats an ammonia shot?

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> * Re: [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question

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> I NEVER get one nor do I get the ammonia shot

>

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My wife works in a pharmacy and with extreme exposure to people in cold and flu season, her only protection is good old vitamin C in mega doses when she feels something coming on. She may take upwards of 50 grams of ester C the first day and that will be that.

I have not had a flu shot in over 15 years and will never have another. I do the same thing (the mega-dose route) and have not had a cold or the flu in years.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, PhD

Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc.

http://survivecancerfoundation.org

Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. Matt 6:34 (NIV)

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of and IselbornSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:48 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question

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I'm not and never have.

-- [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question

I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu shots.I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call center. What are your thoughts? Thanks,

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> I NEVER get one nor do I get the ammonia shot

>

I'm sure you meant the pneumonia vaccination.

A.

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I remember Senator Dan ? from Indiana grilling the FDA about mercury in children's vaccinations-------and how it is HIGHLY suspected to contribute to autism in some children. At the end of the grilling he said, "and when will you tell my fellow Senators, that the free flu shot we get each year, also has mercury, and is suspected to contribute to Alzheimer's".

Never had one, and thankful.

God Bless,

Sara

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hi! i've had a flu shot most years, for the past 10. i work in a

hospital. i've never had a problem with the shot, or with the flu. i

plan on getting the shot this year.

michelle

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, I don't really know what your question is, but what condition do you have? I have MS, very progressed, and my doctor (one of them) told me NEVER to get another vaccination. I never had any problems with them either. The doc I went to on Monday in Odessa, TX looked at my live blood, and it shows me to be full of viruses. Not a good thing. Marcie <mbrovitz@...> wrote: hi! i've had a flu shot most years, for the past 10. i work in a hospital. i've never had a problem with the shot, or with the flu. i plan on getting the shot this year.michelle

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No flu shot for me..

Regards,

Tom

[low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question

I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu shots.I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call center. What are your thoughts? Thanks,

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i'm a nurse so i've worked everywhere and now in the pharmacy. I agree with the ester -we do encourage liquid echanesia with the ester c. works like a charm. i wouldn't ever take flue shot. cyndiOn Sep 14, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Bruce Guilmette, Ph.D. wrote: My wife works in a pharmacy and with extreme exposure to people in cold and flu season, her only protection is good old vitamin C in mega doses when she feels something coming on.  She may take upwards of 50 grams of ester C the first day  and that will be that.   I have not had a flu shot in over 15 years and will never have another.  I do the same thing (the mega-dose route) and have not had a cold or the flu in years.   Regards,   Bruce Guilmette, PhD Survive Cancer Foundation, Inc. http://survivecancerfoundation.org   Do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.  Matt 6:34 (NIV)    From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of and IselbornSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:48 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question  , I'm not and never have.   -- [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question   I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu shots.I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call center. What are your thoughts? Thanks,  

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Marcie, why is your blood full of virus,

and why did the doctor tell you never to have a flu shot again? What do the

contain and why are they bad? Thanks. Conni

Re: [low dose naltrexone]

Re: Flu shot question

,

I don't really know what your question is, but what

condition do you have? I have MS, very progressed, and my doctor (one of

them) told me NEVER to get another vaccination. I never had any problems

with them either.

The doc I went to on Monday in Odessa, TX looked at my

live blood, and it shows me to be full of viruses. Not a good thing.

Marcie

<mbrovitz@...> wrote:

hi!

i've had a flu shot most years, for the past 10. i work in a

hospital. i've never had a problem with the shot, or with the flu. i

plan on getting the shot this year.

michelle

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hi marcie

i don't have a question. i was answering the question about flu shots.

michelle

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>

> > whats an ammonia shot?

> Funny guy Dave

It is hard for sum to spell pnuemonia.

But I just wash often and use a small dollar store spray bottle filled

with a 50/50 mix of 3%H202 and Colloidal silver.Spray your

ph.receiver, door knobs, counters etc.

You can also snort it if you fell a tickle in your nose.

This is better than getting the flue shot as I already have too many

heavy metals in my system.

Reg

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That's strange. You can't see viruses under a light microscope, only an electron microscope. I don't think most docs know how to use electron microscopes. This doesn't sound right!And once you make a blood smear, you have to stain it to see right, which kills all the cells so it is not alive at all. I am mysttified by this. Did he give any explanation on howw he did that?

Nola

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question

,

I don't really know what your question is, but what condition do you have? I have MS, very progressed, and my doctor (one of them) told me NEVER to get another vaccination. I never had any problems with them either.

The doc I went to on Monday in Odessa, TX looked at my live blood, and it shows me to be full of viruses. Not a good thing.

Marcie

<mbrovitz > wrote:

hi! i've had a flu shot most years, for the past 10. i work in a hospital. i've never had a problem with the shot, or with the flu. i plan on getting the shot this year.michelle

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I knew better than to say anything! There's always someone who knows more than an expert in their feild. (Not me, the alternative doctor) It's a Bradford microscope, not just a light microscope or even a darkfield. Shows candida as white spots, mold as black spots. The blood is alive as the red and white blood cells are swimming around. Some of the red blood cells look porcupine like which indicates viruses. Many of my red blood cells look like caterpillars, all clumped together. There are many personalities on a board such as this. Truly, if one doesn't agree with something, especially if they don't know what the subject pertains to, he/she doesn't need to put down a person for trying something different. I've seen enough different peoples 'live' blood under this speciaL type of microscope, and there is enough difference from one person to the next that I think there is something to it. The microscope test is CLEA approved where most insurance companies accept the results. So, if anyone else thinks I've wasted my time, don't waste your time responding. You may discourage someone else from getting help. Marcie oothappam <oothappam@...> wrote: That's strange. You can't see viruses under a light microscope, only an electron microscope. I don't think most docs know how to use electron microscopes. This doesn't sound right!And once you make a blood smear, you have to stain it to see right, which kills all the cells so it is not alive at all. I am mysttified by this. Did he give any explanation on howw he did that? Nola Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question , I don't really know what your question is, but what condition do you have? I have MS, very progressed, and my doctor (one of them) told me NEVER to get another vaccination. I never had any problems with them either. The doc I went to on Monday in Odessa, TX looked at my live blood, and it shows me to be full of viruses. Not a good thing. Marcie <mbrovitz > wrote: hi! i've had a flu shot most years, for the past 10. i work in a hospital. i've never had a problem with the shot, or with the flu. i plan on getting the shot this year.michelle

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I saw that as I continued to read. Sorry! Marcie <mbrovitz@...> wrote: hi marciei don't have a question. i was answering the question about flu shots.michelle

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Conni, Viruses, airborne exposure or vaccinations, stay in our systems. Some longer than others. And some of us have a genetic predispostion to have problems with them. I'm apparrently one of the unlucky ones. Muscle testing (kenesiology) shows me to be high in Epstein-Barr, MMR, & polio. Traditional tests show me to have none. Go figure??? So, do I have polio or MS?? I had a traditional doc suspect polio a year ago, but the test was negative. Marcie Conni Lawrence <summerwind1@...> wrote: Marcie, why is your blood full of virus, and why did the doctor tell you never to have a flu shot again? What do the contain and why are they bad? Thanks. Conni -----Original Message-----From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Marcie Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:48 AMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question , I don't really know what your question is, but what condition do you have? I have MS, very progressed, and my doctor (one of them) told me NEVER to get another vaccination. I never had any problems with them either. The doc I went to on Monday in Odessa, TX looked at my live blood, and it shows me to be full of viruses. Not a good thing. Marcie <mbrovitz > wrote: hi! i've had a flu shot most years, for the past 10. i work in a hospital. i've never had a problem with the shot, or with the flu. i plan on getting the shot this year.michelle

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I assumed it was that New Monia shot

I won't take any of them, no flu, no pneumonia, no b12, no c, no r, no a, nor b

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question

I NEVER get one nor do I get the ammonia shot--- mitzi0099 <mitzi0099 > wrote:> I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a> flu shot this year?

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Dear Marcie! Please don't take offense! I am just really curious, I've never heard of this and I am a retired cytotechnologist.I know that new stuff has popped up since I left the field and this one really got my curiosity going!

I don't think for a second that you've wasted your time. If I have learned anything from having this horrible disease, it's that "traditional" medicine isn't going to help us, that we've got to be open minded and try new things, because the regular medical world doesn't seem to be willing to look anywhere else than at the usual meds to help us, meds that dont help us and can even hurt us. We need people who are willing to look elsewhere for answers. Kudos to your doc who is doing new things. He/She or someone like them (like Dr Bihari) will be the one to really help us!

I just never heard of any way to look at live blood like this. I will try to learn more about this now!

Nola

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question

,

I don't really know what your question is, but what condition do you have? I have MS, very progressed, and my doctor (one of them) told me NEVER to get another vaccination. I never had any problems with them either.

The doc I went to on Monday in Odessa, TX looked at my live blood, and it shows me to be full of viruses. Not a good thing.

Marcie

<mbrovitz > wrote:

hi! i've had a flu shot most years, for the past 10. i work in a hospital. i've never had a problem with the shot, or with the flu. i plan on getting the shot this yearmichelle

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sorry, wasnt trying to be funny. I actually thought there WAS an ammonia shot, thought I was missing out on something! :0)))

[low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question

> > > whats an ammonia shot?> Funny guy DaveIt is hard for sum to spell pnuemonia.But I just wash often and use a small dollar store spray bottle filled with a 50/50 mix of 3%H202 and Colloidal silver.Spray your ph.receiver, door knobs, counters etc.You can also snort it if you fell a tickle in your nose.This is better than getting the flue shot as I already have too many heavy metals in my system. Reg

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Cyndi, isnt echinacea supposed to be bad for ms'ers??

[low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question

I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu shots.I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call center. What are your thoughts? Thanks,

[Guest guest]

That is very interesting. When I was

pregnant 20 years ago with my son, my friend told me I had to have a

toxoplasmosis test because I was in the barn all the time, and the barn

cats. I had a very high antibody to toxoplasmosis, and they were worried

I had it when I was pregnant, which would be devastating to the baby. After all

was said and done, they said I must have had it a long time ago, and just had

high antibodies. I wonder if it has anything to do with my

problems. I have had a flu shot for the last several years. I won’t

do it anymore. I did get a little yucky feeling last time I got it for

about 24 hours. I wonder about other things too but have not been

tested. Went to my rheumatologist today to get the LDN and was told

no. He really bust my bubble. I thought he would be ok with

it. I called my regular MD, and hopefully he will say yes. I won’t

go back to the rheumatologist. I don’t think any doctor should

refuse to give medicine to someone who asks for it and has researched it, and

nothing bad can happen. I am done with that one. I left him

literature, and told him I could not understand why he would not be interesting

in helping all his patients. He said he was open minded. If he

calls me back then we know he is. Conni

Re: [low dose naltrexone]

Re: Flu shot question

,

I don't really know what your question is, but what

condition do you have? I have MS, very progressed, and my doctor (one of

them) told me NEVER to get another vaccination. I never had any problems

with them either.

The doc I went to on Monday in Odessa, TX looked at my

live blood, and it shows me to be full of viruses. Not a good thing.

Marcie

<mbrovitz > wrote:

hi! i've had a flu shot most years, for the past 10. i

work in a

hospital. i've never had a problem with the shot, or with the flu. i

plan on getting the shot this year.

michelle