Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 according to the bottle, yep. however.. if you're on LDN, then it could/should/would be beneficial, mayhaps? Re: [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question i'm a nurse so i've worked everywhere and now in the pharmacy. I agree with the ester -we do encourage liquid echanesia with the ester c. works like a charm. i wouldn't ever take flue shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 And I assumed it was spell-check putting in interesting substitutes... [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question > > > whats an ammonia shot?> Funny guy DaveIt is hard for sum to spell pnuemonia.But I just wash often and use a small dollar store spray bottle filled with a 50/50 mix of 3%H202 and Colloidal silver.Spray your ph.receiver, door knobs, counters etc.You can also snort it if you fell a tickle in your nose.This is better than getting the flue shot as I already have too many heavy metals in my system. Reg __________ NOD32 1.1757 (20060914) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 If you really wanna know, I thought it was a clever post by Reg. It anticipated my reply/question, which was "Whats an ammonia shot" (Whats a pneumonia shot) Get it??? :0)))) [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question > > > whats an ammonia shot?> Funny guy DaveIt is hard for sum to spell pnuemonia.But I just wash often and use a small dollar store spray bottle filled with a 50/50 mix of 3%H202 and Colloidal silver.Spray your ph.receiver, door knobs, counters etc.You can also snort it if you fell a tickle in your nose.This is better than getting the flue shot as I already have too many heavy metals in my system. Reg__________ NOD32 1.1757 (20060914) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 i've looked and looked and have no found any contraindications. if anyone knows different let me know. I do know this =its not suppose to be taken every day forever. not more than 2 weeks .cyndiOn Sep 14, 2006, at 7:11 PM, Dave Carlin wrote: Cyndi, isnt echinacea supposed to be bad for ms'ers?? [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question  I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu shots.I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call center. What are your thoughts? Thanks,  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Hi Cyndi, It's one of those things that slips through the grapevine, I'm not saying that I believe it, it's just something I have heard a few times. :0)))))) [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu shots.I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call center. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 i have heard it but I can't find any you know --information. so if anyone has any throw it out there. oh I forgot chicken soup. I actually think someone has studied chicken soup.cyndiOn Sep 14, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Dave Carlin wrote: Hi Cyndi,  It's one of those things that slips through the grapevine, I'm not saying that I believe it, it's just something I have heard a few times. :0)))))) [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question  I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu shots.I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call center. What are your thoughts? Thanks,  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I think the reason people have said not to use it is that it boost the immune system, and if you have auto immune diseases they say not to boost your immune system. Also vit c, and obviously ldn. I use vit c a lot to stay healthy, and perhaps boosting the immune system is what we need. Conni From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Cyndi Lenz Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:45 PM To: low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question i have heard it but I can't find any you know --information. so if anyone has any throw it out there. oh I forgot chicken soup. I actually think someone has studied chicken soup. cyndi On Sep 14, 2006, at 9:21 PM, Dave Carlin wrote: Hi Cyndi, It's one of those things that slips through the grapevine, I'm not saying that I believe it, it's just something I have heard a few times. :0)))))) [low dose naltrexone] Flu shot question I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu shots. I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call center. What are your thoughts? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Does that include s and Progresso? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I agree. Suppressing it obviously aint working! With the poor success rate they're having with the crabs, you would think they would have figured this out by now.>> I think the reason people have said not to use it is that it boost the> immune system, and if you have auto immune diseases they say not to boost> your immune system. Also vit c, and obviously ldn. I use vit c a lot to> stay healthy, and perhaps boosting the immune system is what we need.> Conni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 burger king chicken soup too!  On Sep 14, 2006, at 9:49 PM, outtabodyexperience wrote: Does that include s and Progresso? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 well, they DO have that chicken whopper, but I had a very bad experience with one of those, I doubt if I'll ever eat another one!> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 > That's strange. You can't see viruses under a light microscope, only an electron microscope. I don't think most docs know how to use electron microscopes. This doesn't sound right!And once you make a blood smear, you have to stain it to see right, which kills all the cells so it is not alive at all. I am mysttified by this. Did he give any explanation on howw he did that? > Nola > Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question > > > , > > I don't really know what your question is, but what condition do you have? I have MS, very progressed, and my doctor (one of them) told me NEVER to get another vaccination. I never had any problems with them either. > > The doc I went to on Monday in Odessa, TX looked at my live blood, and it shows me to be full of viruses. Not a good thing. > > Marcie > ====== Marcie, thought I'd do the homework for those curious as to what the Bradford Microscope detects. Bradford High Resolution Microscope BRI Advanced Assessments http://www.ingleshospital.com/Therapies/abimcadvanced.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 , Thanks for the info! I guess I'm lucky that I didn't have to go to Mexico! Marcie Bren <b63powell@...> wrote: > That's strange. You can't see viruses under a light microscope, only an electron microscope. I don't think most docs know how to use electron microscopes. This doesn't sound right!And once you make a blood smear, you have to stain it to see right, which kills all the cells so it is not alive at all. I am mysttified by this. Did he give any explanation on howw he did that?> Nola> Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question> > > ,> > I don't really know what your question is, but what condition do you have? I have MS, very progressed, and my doctor (one of them) told me NEVER to get another vaccination. I never had any problems with them either. > > The doc I went to on Monday in Odessa, TX looked at my live blood, and it shows me to be full of viruses. Not a good thing.> > Marcie> ======Marcie, thought I'd do the homework for those curious as to what the Bradford Microscope detects.Bradford High Resolution MicroscopeBRI Advanced Assessmentshttp://www.ingleshospital.com/Therapies/abimcadvanced.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 > > I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? > I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu > shots. > > I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that > people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call > center. > > What are your thoughts? > > Thanks, > > > I am NOT getting the flu shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 People with ms should not have flu shots. My pharmacist actually had her first symptoms of ms two days after a flu shot. She was given mass doses of steroids for optic neuritis. The residual effect was inflamed nerves along her thoracic and lumbar region two years later. Please read up on this before you decide to get a flu shot. Best, Kathy [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question >> I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? > I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu > shots.> > I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that > people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call > center. > > What are your thoughts? > > Thanks,> > >I am NOT getting the flu shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 In a message dated 9/17/2006 2:43:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jerrysimmons@... writes: People with ms should not have flu shots. My pharmacist actually had her first symptoms of ms two days after a flu shot. She was given mass doses of steroids for optic neuritis. The residual effect was inflamed nerves along her thoracic and lumbar region two years later. Please read up on this before you decide to get a flu shot. Best, Kathy ----- Original Message ----- What is in the flu shot to cause problems? I did not see the answer if already posted. I heard of this for sometime but do not know the reasoning. One doctor asked me why? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 My doctoor feels that having pls that flu shot should also be passed.He Knows fro 5 yeras of dealing with my various problems that all medical procedures form meds to surgeries becomes a life threatening problem at times.One example is anytime I have a Geneneral for surgery within 3 weeks congestive heart failure delevopes and proceeds with twilight medications cause my spazams to increase and frustrates surgeons . Jerry [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question >> I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? > I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu > shots.> > I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that > people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call > center. > > What are your thoughts? > > Thanks,> > >I am NOT getting the flu shot. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Regarding to this information, would this also hold true for an elderly person that could have a defective heart situation... it was just discovered at 94...elizabeth"Jerry ( aka Dillon )" <jerrysimmons@...> wrote: My doctoor feels that having pls that flu shot should also be passed.He Knows fro 5 yeras of dealing with my various problems that all medical procedures form meds to surgeries becomes a life threatening problem at times.One example is anytime I have a Geneneral for surgery within 3 weeks congestive heart failure delevopes and proceeds with twilight medications cause my spazams to increase and frustrates surgeons . Jerry [low dose naltrexone] Re: Flu shot question >> I was wondering how many of you plan on getting a flu shot this year? > I got a flyer from my hospital to remind me about flu season and flu > shots.> > I have never gotten one before. I admit I work in an environment that > people get sick all the time and still come to work, I work in a call > center. > > What are your thoughts? > > Thanks,> > >I am NOT getting the flu shot. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 Make free worldwide PC-to-PC calls. Try the new Canada Messenger with Voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 , I'm not sure if this is your question, but the flu shot contains live viruses. It's also grown in eggs, so therefore persons allergic to eggs cannot take it. Marcie lkilcollin@... wrote: In a message dated 9/17/2006 2:43:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jerrysimmonsbellsouth (DOT) net writes: People with ms should not have flu shots. My pharmacist actually had her first symptoms of ms two days after a flu shot. She was given mass doses of steroids for optic neuritis. The residual effect was inflamed nerves along her thoracic and lumbar region two years later. Please read up on this before you decide to get a flu shot. Best, Kathy ----- Original Message ----- What is in the flu shot to cause problems? I did not see the answer if already posted. I heard of this for sometime but do not know the reasoning. One doctor asked me why? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 I have often wondered myself if a flu shot is a good idea for people with MS. First we are told we are more likely to get the flu because of our immune system...so we should take the flu shot. But I have learned that the flu shot has a base of mercury in it and I am not up to injecting that in myself. No one should want to inject themselves with mercury....MS or not. I mean some believe that the lead in fillings are bad, I don't know...many that don't have MS have told me to do away with my fillings and it will be all better. I still have my fillings. My dentist said it isn't true...but I can't say I really believe him either...but I know having the fillings yanked out could contaminate your body with more of the lead from the fillings. Flu shots, fillings?..... why I don't know if it would affect the MS and make it worse....or having the flu is worse....but I do know I sit on the fence about getting a flu shot and haven't had one since I was DX with MS. Don't think I will either. Just some thoughts. Peace and Health, donna > In a message dated 9/17/2006 2:43:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jerrysimmons@... writes: > > > People with ms should not have flu shots. My pharmacist actually had her first symptoms of ms two days after a flu shot. She was given mass doses of steroids for optic neuritis. The residual effect was inflamed nerves along her thoracic and lumbar region two years later. Please read up on this before you decide to get a flu shot. Best, Kathy > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > What is in the flu shot to cause problems? I did not see the answer if already posted. I heard of this for sometime but do not know the reasoning. One doctor asked me why? > Thanks > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 FYI - any dentist associated with the ADA is under a gag order (my dentist showed it to me) they can't talk about possible hazards associated with mercury amalgams. Even though the left over stuff is disposed of as hazardous waste! If one chooses to have them removed, it must be done by a holistic dentist trained somewhere other than in the USA. Special equipment is required. I had mine removed but didn't have any improvements. The FDA (or whoever) is not putting Thimerisol (mercury) in vaccinations anymore. What does that say??? Marcie doofus117 <doofus117@...> wrote: I have often wondered myself if a flu shot is a good idea for people with MS. First we are told we are more likely to get the flu because of our immune system...so we should take the flu shot. But I have learned that the flu shot has a base of mercury in it and I am not up to injecting that in myself. No one should want to inject themselves with mercury....MS or not. I mean some believe that the lead in fillings are bad, I don't know...many that don't have MS have told me to do away with my fillings and it will be all better. I still have my fillings. My dentist said it isn't true...but I can't say I really believe him either...but I know having the fillings yanked out could contaminate your body with more of the lead from the fillings. Flu shots, fillings?..... why I don't know if it would affect the MS and make it worse....or having the flu is worse....but I do know I sit on the fence about getting a flu shot and haven't had one since I was DX with MS. Don't think I will either. Just some thoughts.Peace and Health, donna> In a message dated 9/17/2006 2:43:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jerrysimmons@... writes:> > > People with ms should not have flu shots. My pharmacist actually had her first symptoms of ms two days after a flu shot. She was given mass doses of steroids for optic neuritis. The residual effect was inflamed nerves along her thoracic and lumbar region two years later. Please read up on this before you decide to get a flu shot. Best, Kathy> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > What is in the flu shot to cause problems? I did not see the answer if already posted. I heard of this for sometime but do not know the reasoning. One doctor asked me why?> Thanks> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Just some further thoughts…………. You would need to weigh 550 pounds to tolerate the mercury that is in the flu shot. The government recommended limit for exposure to this toxin is 0.1mcg[micrograms] per kilogram[kg=2.2 pounds]. This limit speaks to inhalation, food, etc exposure.; not to direct injection where you would be sure to get it all nicely packed within the tissues without any of the gi filters. Additionally, there are many strains of flu and the shot is just someone's best guess on what will be around this year. I think you are sitting on the right side of this fence, Donna, by saying `no' to the flu shot. Most dentists will tell you that the silver/amalgam fillings are not hazardous. That's the line there are taught and believe. In many areas, they risk their professional license by speaking otherwise. California seems to be an exception to this. 50% of the `silver' colored filling is mercury. Imo, It is doing your body harm on daily basis. Combined with any gold in your mouth, it is particularly toxic. If you are contemplating having your fillings removed, you want to be sure that you have the least exposure that you can. Please read up on safe protocols. Mercury outgases daily with eating, drinking hot liquids etc so it is a myth that leaving them alone offers safety from exposure. Most of us parents were taught that immunizations are for a child's benefit. It was only after the fact when the toxic fallout began to do its biological damage that we learned otherwise; a very painful experience for parent and child. / http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/ frequent-dose-chelation/? yguid=140279175 Offer good resources. A urine porphyrins test can offer you some information about heavy metal load as can a simple hair test, as listed in the references above. , > > In a message dated 9/17/2006 2:43:29 A.M. Pacific > Daylight Time, jerrysimmons@ writes: > > > > > > People with ms should not have flu shots. My pharmacist > actually had her first symptoms of ms two days after a flu shot. She > was given mass doses of steroids for optic neuritis. The residual > effect was inflamed nerves along her thoracic and lumbar region two > years later. Please read up on this before you decide to get a flu > shot. Best, Kathy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > What is in the flu shot to cause problems? I did not see the > answer if already posted. I heard of this for sometime but do not > know the reasoning. One doctor asked me why? > > Thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 There is still mercury in the flu shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 There are 25 micrograms of mercury in that flu shot! > > > In a message dated 9/17/2006 2:43:29 A.M. Pacific > > Daylight Time, jerrysimmons@ writes: > > > > > > > > > People with ms should not have flu shots. My pharmacist > > actually had her first symptoms of ms two days after a flu shot. > She > > was given mass doses of steroids for optic neuritis. The residual > > effect was inflamed nerves along her thoracic and lumbar region two > > years later. Please read up on this before you decide to get a flu > > shot. Best, Kathy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > What is in the flu shot to cause problems? I did not see the > > answer if already posted. I heard of this for sometime but do not > > know the reasoning. One doctor asked me why? > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 All well said, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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