Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 , If you go to the website, on the left side there are some links. One is called the Database. In there we have some more links and one is called recipes. There are only 3 in there right now, (sorry! we need to get more!), but one is for the raw sauerkraut. Patty > > Patty , > you said there are recipes in the data base HOw do I get there? And by the > way I ordered the Gerson Book (thank You) I hope this will be helpful. HOw many > probiotics should I take a day? I am taking primal Defense ultra > 2tablets 3 times a day.(6altogether) Is that enough? > > Love ya , > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 , If you go to the website, on the left side there are some links. One is called the Database. In there we have some more links and one is called recipes. There are only 3 in there right now, (sorry! we need to get more!), but one is for the raw sauerkraut. Patty > > Patty , > you said there are recipes in the data base HOw do I get there? And by the > way I ordered the Gerson Book (thank You) I hope this will be helpful. HOw many > probiotics should I take a day? I am taking primal Defense ultra > 2tablets 3 times a day.(6altogether) Is that enough? > > Love ya , > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Beth and I were actually talking about this on the phone the other day...It'd be nice if each of us would contribute recipes for one day, including breakfast, lunch, dinner and snack. We could then put them in the Database. We've both found that figuring out what to eat has been a huge challenge. So if anyone has any yeast-free, sugar free recipes they want to share, please do! Love, PH > > > > Patty , > > you said there are recipes in the data base HOw do I get there? And > by the > > way I ordered the Gerson Book (thank You) I hope this will be > helpful. HOw many > > probiotics should I take a day? I am taking primal Defense ultra > > 2tablets 3 times a day.(6altogether) Is that enough? > > > > Love ya , > > > > > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in > shape. > > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Beth and I were actually talking about this on the phone the other day...It'd be nice if each of us would contribute recipes for one day, including breakfast, lunch, dinner and snack. We could then put them in the Database. We've both found that figuring out what to eat has been a huge challenge. So if anyone has any yeast-free, sugar free recipes they want to share, please do! Love, PH > > > > Patty , > > you said there are recipes in the data base HOw do I get there? And > by the > > way I ordered the Gerson Book (thank You) I hope this will be > helpful. HOw many > > probiotics should I take a day? I am taking primal Defense ultra > > 2tablets 3 times a day.(6altogether) Is that enough? > > > > Love ya , > > > > > > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in > shape. > > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise? NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Dede, My pee pee is really clear. But I feel like my mouth is muscus and my pee feels thick but not sure. Now this morning I pooped out garlic. It floated in the toilet is this normal? But one thing I didn't have with my back hurting and blood in my urine is my urine dont burn? Is that strange? Love In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:36:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, DGRAHAMA@... writes: Sweetie, in my experience, leave out the fact you had implants for now. Start with 6 months ago you started swelling. Give them your symptoms and tell them you want a really good check up. A regular MD will be fine at first. It doesnt mean you have to take drugs, ok, it is to get info, and to get tests done, OK.......most of all, try not to worry. Think of it as educating yourself on the body you occupy. Use the doctor as a tool to get tests done. I think that is a good place to start. Bless your heart, I know this is scarey, but I have been walking the walk, and from my experience, use the doc for info and his opinion, and for testing. Then take the testing and info and research research, research. Tell the doctor you havent felt well for about 6 mos to a year. Tell him about your fluid gain and gut problems and your blood in the pee, and pain in the kidneys, and tiredness and what ever else , but dont mention the implants or you will be judged and immediately everything you say, written off. Save the implant issue for later. When he asks you why you didnt tell him, just say, because the AMA and FDA say they are safe and dont cause medical problems. Do you get short of breath quickly or for no reason? How many pillows do you sleep on? Do you get heart palps Do you ever feel your whole body beating like a heartbeat? How does it feel when you deep breathe? I highly suggest you measure the amount of fluid you drink along with an estimation of what you take in from foods. and measure the amount of pee you are peeing out. Do this every day for awhile. Keep a journal about it. I say pee in a clear bottle, when my kidneys were shutting down, my pee looked dark yellow in the potty, but like dark tea in a glass bottle, this is a huge sign that your kidneys are not functioning properly. Love you ~ Dede Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 ~ Floating poop can mean you arent metabolizing your lipids properly, or there is alot of gas in it, but it can mean other things too. Here is a site dedicated to POOP ! ! http://www.smellypoop.com/facts_about_poop.php Its funny....... I am worried about the fact you are swollen with edema and your belly is big. How much do you weigh? how much did you gain and over what period of time? I think you still have a fungal component you are dealing with. Love DedeStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Oh, I forgot, if you pooped garlic, and you actually saw it in the toilet, then you didnt chew or crush it well enough before eating it. It has to be crushed and sit about 10 minutes to get the full benefits, then chewed well. Hugs DedeStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 dede, I weigh 143 lbs now . This is a lot !!!!!!!!!!!! I gained in a total of 40 lbs. in 6months. I cant wait to see thyroid doctor I was thinking maybe this was it. I will try to remember to crush my garlic I was waiting 10 minutes I think it takes me that long to peel and cut it all up. I am farting alot. I feel like a have a little brain fog today. I dont know if I am dealing with a fungal component I took fugual defense right after explant and stayed on primal defense. Does any one know of a good ND and MD so my insurance will cover some of it in my area Ohio. Love In a message dated 1/24/2008 1:38:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DGRAHAMA@... writes: ~ Floating poop can mean you arent metabolizing your lipids properly, or there is alot of gas in it, but it can mean other things too. Here is a site dedicated to POOP ! ! http://www.smellypoop.com/facts_about_poop.php Its funny....... I am worried about the fact you are swollen with edema and your belly is big. How much do you weigh? how much did you gain and over what period of time? I think you still have a fungal component you are dealing with. Love Dede Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 This is the reason I dont want to go back to a doctor because Cleveland Clinic wanted to admitt me to psychic ward. And the last doctor wanted me to see a psychocllgist for diarrhea. I dont know where to look for a doctor. Patty gave me some sights to find a doctor but no luck for ND AND MD>.>>>>>>> That's what I am really looking for Heck I will take anything at this point just to find one to listen. Any insights girls. Love and prayers, In a message dated 1/24/2008 2:07:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, angmattoni@... writes: I agree with Dede 100%. Do not tell them about how you think the implants are the problem or they will look at you are nuts and won't take you seriously. Just use them as a tool to get the tests done. You will have everything documented instead of being referred to a psych. Sweetie, in my experience, leave out the fact you had implants for now. Start with 6 months ago you started swelling. Give them your symptoms and tell them you want a really good check up. A regular MD will be fine at first. It doesnt mean you have to take drugs, ok, it is to get info, and to get tests done, OK.......most of all, try not to worry. Think of it as educating yourself on the body you occupy. Use the doctor as a tool to get tests done. I think that is a good place to start. Bless your heart, I know this is scarey, but I have been walking the walk, and from my experience, use the doc for info and his opinion, and for testing. Then take the testing and info and research research, research. Tell the doctor you havent felt well for about 6 mos to a year. Tell him about your fluid gain and gut problems and your blood in the pee, and pain in the kidneys, and tiredness and what ever else , but dont mention the implants or you will be judged and immediately everything you say, written off. Save the implant issue for later. When he asks you why you didnt tell him, just say, because the AMA and FDA say they are safe and dont cause medical problems. Do you get short of breath quickly or for no reason? How many pillows do you sleep on? Do you get heart palps Do you ever feel your whole body beating like a heartbeat? How does it feel when you deep breathe? I highly suggest you measure the amount of fluid you drink along with an estimation of what you take in from foods. and measure the amount of pee you are peeing out. Do this every day for awhile. Keep a journal about it. I say pee in a clear bottle, when my kidneys were shutting down, my pee looked dark yellow in the potty, but like dark tea in a glass bottle, this is a huge sign that your kidneys are not functioning properly. Love you ~ Dede Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1239 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 10:24 AM Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 ~ will you answer these questions ? If you dont want to, it is ok, I am curious tho, it will help me decide if I need to tell you anything else.........Luvya ~ Dede Do you get short of breath quickly or for no reason? How many pillows do you sleep on? Do you get heart palps Do you ever feel your whole body beating like a heartbeat? How does it feel when you deep breathe?Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 ~ I have a bum thyroid too. That is not normal to gain that much weight in such a short time. You sound too much like me. I think you need the testing so you can see what you are dealing with, did you know that candida can cause thyroid malfunction?? it can. Anyway, I say, see the doc, get some tests done, see where you stand with those, and work from there. I still think you are dealing with fungal issues, are your scar caps still in? This may be what is keeping you so sick........ Get the tests, then maybe take some cap acid, work up to 3600 mg a day, then take that much for 16-18 days, and drink the kefir, and pray ! Love DedeStart the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Dede, I can not fly or Drive to Atlanta, or will she help me online? I have a big mortgage on getting better now. There is not much I can do right now? In a message dated 1/24/2008 2:50:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DGRAHAMA@... writes: ~ I bet if you contact Dr Kolb in Atlanta email: drkolbmindspring her web page: http://www.plastikos.com/ she would be kind enough to help you. You do NOT need a psyche ward ! ! ! Bless your heart, you dont need that kind of crap from idiot doctors that dont know their behind from their front end. Love Dede Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 When you mean are my scar caps still in does that mean capsules. IF so I did not have a capsulectomy so I guess yes. Love and pray for me In a message dated 1/24/2008 2:43:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DGRAHAMA@... writes: ~ I have a bum thyroid too. That is not normal to gain that much weight in such a short time. You sound too much like me. I think you need the testing so you can see what you are dealing with, did you know that candida can cause thyroid malfunction?? it can. Anyway, I say, see the doc, get some tests done, see where you stand with those, and work from there. I still think you are dealing with fungal issues, are your scar caps still in? This may be what is keeping you so sick........ Get the tests, then maybe take some cap acid, work up to 3600 mg a day, then take that much for 16-18 days, and drink the kefir, and pray ! Love Dede Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Yes I get short of breath llike my chest is heavy. I sleep on about 3 and now I put one under my feet. Yes I feel my body beat like a heartbeat. MY I deep breathe which I do a lot it feels like I am getting some kind of relief. I feel like its going to make me feel normal. I have been crying all day.This has been too long In a message dated 1/24/2008 2:37:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, DGRAHAMA@... writes: ~ will you answer these questions ? If you dont want to, it is ok, I am curious tho, it will help me decide if I need to tell you anything else.........Luvya ~ Dede Do you get short of breath quickly or for no reason? How many pillows do you sleep on? Do you get heart palps Do you ever feel your whole body beating like a heartbeat? How does it feel when you deep breathe? Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Yes, that is what I meant. Bless your heart. I bet those durn capsules are keeping you ill. You may eventually have to have them removed. You are definately in my prayers, and you will get well. Love DedeWho's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 ~ Bless your heart, I was afraid you were crying all day. I wish I could hug you and comfort you. Honey, you definately need to go have a good check-up. Important question, how long have you slept on more than one pillow? Honey, you need a good laugh, so here is one: http://www.dorks.com/videos/Jeff-Foxworthy-Big-Deck.html this will help you feel better. Please let me know how long you been up on more than one pillow...... Love , Hugs, Hope, Prayers, and lots of Laughter ! ! DedeWho's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I agree with Dede 100%. Do not tell them about how you think the implants are the problem or they will look at you are nuts and won't take you seriously. Just use them as a tool to get the tests done. You will have everything documented instead of being referred to a psych. Sweetie, in my experience, leave out the fact you had implants for now. Start with 6 months ago you started swelling. Give them your symptoms and tell them you want a really good check up. A regular MD will be fine at first. It doesnt mean you have to take drugs, ok, it is to get info, and to get tests done, OK.......most of all, try not to worry. Think of it as educating yourself on the body you occupy. Use the doctor as a tool to get tests done. I think that is a good place to start. Bless your heart, I know this is scarey, but I have been walking the walk, and from my experience, use the doc for info and his opinion, and for testing. Then take the testing and info and research research, research. Tell the doctor you havent felt well for about 6 mos to a year. Tell him about your fluid gain and gut problems and your blood in the pee, and pain in the kidneys, and tiredness and what ever else , but dont mention the implants or you will be judged and immediately everything you say, written off. Save the implant issue for later. When he asks you why you didnt tell him, just say, because the AMA and FDA say they are safe and dont cause medical problems. Do you get short of breath quickly or for no reason? How many pillows do you sleep on? Do you get heart palps Do you ever feel your whole body beating like a heartbeat? How does it feel when you deep breathe? I highly suggest you measure the amount of fluid you drink along with an estimation of what you take in from foods. and measure the amount of pee you are peeing out. Do this every day for awhile. Keep a journal about it. I say pee in a clear bottle, when my kidneys were shutting down, my pee looked dark yellow in the potty, but like dark tea in a glass bottle, this is a huge sign that your kidneys are not functioning properly. Love you ~ Dede Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1239 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 10:24 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Use us here to listen and give you support not the docs. Just find one and don't have them transfer your med records because all of those negative comments from the other doc with taint the new doctors perspective. Sweetie, in my experience, leave out the fact you had implants for now. Start with 6 months ago you started swelling. Give them your symptoms and tell them you want a really good check up. A regular MD will be fine at first. It doesnt mean you have to take drugs, ok, it is to get info, and to get tests done, OK.......most of all, try not to worry. Think of it as educating yourself on the body you occupy. Use the doctor as a tool to get tests done. I think that is a good place to start. Bless your heart, I know this is scarey, but I have been walking the walk, and from my experience, use the doc for info and his opinion, and for testing. Then take the testing and info and research research, research. Tell the doctor you havent felt well for about 6 mos to a year. Tell him about your fluid gain and gut problems and your blood in the pee, and pain in the kidneys, and tiredness and what ever else , but dont mention the implants or you will be judged and immediately everything you say, written off. Save the implant issue for later. When he asks you why you didnt tell him, just say, because the AMA and FDA say they are safe and dont cause medical problems. Do you get short of breath quickly or for no reason? How many pillows do you sleep on? Do you get heart palps Do you ever feel your whole body beating like a heartbeat? How does it feel when you deep breathe? I highly suggest you measure the amount of fluid you drink along with an estimation of what you take in from foods. and measure the amount of pee you are peeing out. Do this every day for awhile. Keep a journal about it. I say pee in a clear bottle, when my kidneys were shutting down, my pee looked dark yellow in the potty, but like dark tea in a glass bottle, this is a huge sign that your kidneys are not functioning properly. Love you ~ Dede Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1239 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 10:24 AM Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1241 - Release Date: 1/24/2008 9:58 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Rogene, You said dr huang is the closes to me Denver. I live in OHio would that be dr feng for me. How much does it cost for a capsulectomy? anyone know? a message dated 1/24/2008 8:05:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes: Dr. Kolb, Dr. Huang, and Dr. Feng will all help you either online or by phone. If you decide to see one of these doctors, you'll be able to get your lab work done prior to leaving, have a consult the day before surgery and get your surgery over with in one trip. Generally you will stay a couple days after surgery before returning home. They can help you with places to stay - eat - everything . . . Dr. Huang is in Denver . . . probably the closest to you as well as the least expensive. Hugs, Rogene Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Rogene, No i dont have my implants for 3 years now. Yeh that what it feels like a dog sitting on my chest. Thanks Rogene I had a hard time describing that. In a message dated 1/24/2008 7:56:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes: , I haven't seen all the messages yet . . . Do you still have your implants? . . . If so, think of trying to breath with a 50 pound dog sitting on your chest . . . Your heart will have to work very hard! Hugs, Rogene Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Rogene, I have been massaging my chest maybe this is the problem. In a message dated 1/24/2008 8:18:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes: , I'm guessing, but you might have massive adhesions left from your implants - of course the capsules are probably a major part of the problem. . . Think of scar tissue binding your chest so it's can't expand and contract with each breath. Your heart must work that much harder to do it's job. I recently had deep tissue massage to release my own adhesions . . . Very painful . . . but it brought blood back to chest muscles that were atrophying. . . However, until those capsules are out, don't massage . . . it would only push those toxins out into your system. Hugs, Rogene Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Rogene, Yes i ate raw crushed garlic and I let it set for 10 minutes. In a message dated 1/24/2008 8:25:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes: , Did you eat crushed garlic? . . . You get the most benefit if it's fresh, raw and crushed . . . Once it's heated, most of the medicinal benefits are gone. Hugs, Rogene Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 In my opinion, me just thinking about it, I would think they would be keeping you ill. I think of them as the contaminated sponges. They surrounded your implants the entire time, your implants (if saline) still have a silicone shell. I think I remember dr. blais mentioning that some valves (i maybe wrong about it being all or some) act like pumps. They suck in what is on the outside of the implant and pump out what is inside of the implant. My implants had bacteria, staff infection, etc. which is obviously not healthy, one of my valves was faulty and leaking. I am very grateful that I had Patty as my support. She gave me all the info prior to my surgery . I made it clear they remove the capsules and had them put it in writing. I would really think about having them removed. Re: Yes, that is what I meant. Bless your heart. I bet those durn capsules are keeping you ill. You may eventually have to have them removed. You are definately in my prayers, and you will get well. Love Dede Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1241 - Release Date: 1/24/2008 9:58 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 , I haven't seen all the messages yet . . . Do you still have your implants? . . . If so, think of trying to breath with a 50 pound dog sitting on your chest . . . Your heart will have to work very hard! Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Dr. Kolb, Dr. Huang, and Dr. Feng will all help you either online or by phone. If you decide to see one of these doctors, you'll be able to get your lab work done prior to leaving, have a consult the day before surgery and get your surgery over with in one trip. Generally you will stay a couple days after surgery before returning home. They can help you with places to stay - eat - everything . . . Dr. Huang is in Denver . . . probably the closest to you as well as the least expensive. Hugs, Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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