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Hi,

I have a question about remissions. How does one know if he is in remission if

takes meds continuously? Do you have to try and stop taking meds and see if you

get aches and pains?

I was diagnosed in May was on prednisolone since, although I am on 5mg and 2.5mg

doses on alternating days, and also on Sulfasalazine for almost 2 months now.

This past week, pain is almost negligible so I wondered (and hoping and praying)

that I will go on to a long remission.

Thanks very much.

Rose (UK)

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Rose,

Historically, drug-induced and maintained remission has been the goal

of RA treatment, but researchers and rheumatologists are now exploring

how to achieve drug-free remission in RA patients.

Sometimes, if the disease seems to be under control, the patient and

rheumatologist decide to slowly scale the drugs back to see what

happens.

There is no one standard definition for remission in RA, so you can

ask your rheumatologist what he or she considers it to be and what

your options are if it should occur.

Good luck,

Not an MD

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Rose Marie Fuller

<roseescolar@...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I have a question about remissions.  How does one know if he is in remission

if takes meds continuously?  Do you have to try and stop taking meds and see if

you get aches and pains?

>

> I was diagnosed in May was on prednisolone since, although I am on 5mg and

2.5mg doses on alternating days, and also on Sulfasalazine for almost 2 months

now.  This past week, pain is almost negligible so I wondered (and hoping and

praying) that I will go on to a long remission.

>

> Thanks very much.

>

> Rose (UK)

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I don't think my rheumy believes in remission, for some reason. Maybe

he's never seen it happen. He doesn't call it remission if you're

still on meds.

Sue

On Aug 2, 2010, at 7:00 PM, wrote:

> There is no one standard definition for remission in RA, so you can

> ask your rheumatologist what he or she considers it to be and what

> your options are if it should occur.

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>

> Hi,

>

> I have a question about remissions. How does one know if he is in remission

if takes meds continuously? Do you have to try and stop taking meds and see if

you get aches and pains?

I tried this, and it took about 2 months to get back to the state I'd been in

before I started taking meds. I asked my rheumatologist if there was any chance

that it would go into remission and he said " it is in remission as long as you

are taking the drugs - when you stop taking them, you are no longer in

remission. " So I'm back on.

J.

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That is all very interesting. Isn't it funny how so many doctors can have so

many different answers to basically the same question? I'm currently in

remission and have been from RA since my last infusion over a year ago. All of

my " numbers " that they judge it all by are in the normal range & my doc said

that until my numbers return to visible RA status and/or start seeing RA

problems returning , I dont have to be on anything for the RA.

Maybe it depends in the medication you are on.?.?.

in SC

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On Aug 3, 2010, at 2:23 PM, " oogiejonz " <bajones@...> wrote:

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> Hi,

>

> I have a question about remissions. How does one know if he is in remission if

takes meds continuously? Do you have to try and stop taking meds and see if you

get aches and pains?

I tried this, and it took about 2 months to get back to the state I'd been in

before I started taking meds. I asked my rheumatologist if there was any chance

that it would go into remission and he said " it is in remission as long as you

are taking the drugs - when you stop taking them, you are no longer in

remission. " So I'm back on.

J.

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, that's wonderful that you're in remission! I hope it continues

indefinitely.

Sue

On Aug 3, 2010, at 5:05 PM, wrote:

> That is all very interesting. Isn't it funny how so many doctors can

> have so many different answers to basically the same question? I'm

> currently in remission and have been from RA since my last infusion

> over a year ago. All of my " numbers " that they judge it all by are

> in the normal range & my doc said that until my numbers return to

> visible RA status and/or start seeing RA problems returning , I dont

> have to be on anything for the RA.

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Thank you so much Sue! My hope is that everyone in our group can be as fortunate

very, very soon!!!!

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On Aug 3, 2010, at 7:26 PM, marysue <marysue@...> wrote:

, that's wonderful that you're in remission! I hope it continues

indefinitely.

Sue

On Aug 3, 2010, at 5:05 PM, wrote:

> That is all very interesting. Isn't it funny how so many doctors can

> have so many different answers to basically the same question? I'm

> currently in remission and have been from RA since my last infusion

> over a year ago. All of my " numbers " that they judge it all by are

> in the normal range & my doc said that until my numbers return to

> visible RA status and/or start seeing RA problems returning , I dont

> have to be on anything for the RA.

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  • 1 month later...

I too am in pain most of the time. However, I cannot take Prednisone. I wish

I could, because when I was on it the pain was a lot less. However, even at

low doses, it made my bipolar go crazy. I would have incredible manic highs

where I would be unable to sleep for three or four nights, and would be

constantly running around frantic all the time, and then I would crash into

the most horrible depressions I have ever had, where all I could do is lie

in bed for days on end and cry unable to even get up. Just the worst sad

feeling you can imagine, for no reason. The dr took me off the prednisone

and I flushed it all down the toilet. I knew that if the pain got bad I

would be tempted to take it again,but I knew how bad it was when I did- I

could not function in any way shape or form.

It is disheartening to hear so many people talk about how prednisone is the

only way they get through when I know it is not an option for me and the

pain is so bad. There is just no way I can take it. I'll end up doing

something crazy and wind up in a mental hospital for life.

Is there anyone out there who does not take the predinsone and still has

their pain under control?

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Barbara Creedon <bcreedon@...> wrote:

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>

> Hi Betty.

> So sorry you are suffering so much with your RA. I have been on Pred.

> daily for over 6 1/2 years now. I am on 10 mg now but will go back to my

> original 5 mg. daily. My blood work is always good and my Rheumy says I am

> fine on it. I would have no life without it, and my RA " cocktail " . I feel

> good and have been in a medicine induced remission for almost 2 years now.

> If your Rheumy says you are fine on the Pred. then continue taking it.

> Sometimes uping the dose to 10 mg or 20 mgs. a day will help the swelling go

> down and the pain go away. You should talk all this over with your Rheumy

> and do what she says you need to do to get feeling better and have a life.

> I wish you many pain free days ahead.

>

> Hugs,

>

> Barbara

>

>

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My pain is under control without prednisone. I am on Enbrel and

acetominaphin. A few years ago, I took a low dose of prednisone for a

few months while waiting for methotrexate to take effect. I weaned

myself off of it after I found out about all of the bad side effects.

What DMARD are you on?

Sue

On Sep 4, 2010, at 1:21 PM, Terzo wrote:

>

> Is there anyone out there who does not take the predinsone and still

> has

> their pain under control?

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Hi Betty,

I'm sure it seems like I have that " woe is me " attitude lol. I can see where it

seems like it. But I see that a lot of us are experiencing the same problems.

Well I certainly hope it's safe to take prednisone every day. I've been taking

it everyday for the past four months.

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Thank you for your kind response.  I take methotrexate only, 15mg once a

week.  I have only been on the medication for 3 months as I was diagnosed this

past February.  You have given me hope for remission. 

 

Thank you,

 

Janine Raab

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Janine,

In addition to the nurse, did you talk to your rheumatologist? If

that's his or her philosophy, too - " that you need to learn to live

with the discomfort " - it's time for a second opinion.

There are numerous options for you. The methotrexate dosage can be

increased or you can switch to the injectable form. And there are many

effective treatments that can be used in addition to or instead of the

methotrexate, the sooner the better.

Not an MD

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Janine <Raabster@...> wrote:

> I was curious how others experience remission.  I was hopeful I would return

to normal most of the time.  This past month I have felt pain 90% of the time.

 I called my rheumy Dr. today and the the nurse told me I need to learn to live

with the discomfort.  I have been on methotrexate for 3 months now and have more

joint pain then ever before.

>

> Thank you for your thoughts, I have learned so much here.

>

> Janine Raab

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OK, I am going to jump in here from a professional viewpoint. Calling your

doctor and having the " nurse " or medical assistant or whomever spoke to you on

the phone tell you " Live with it. " was significantly inappropriate for her role

in the physician's office. I speak from being a nurse manager, (granted in a

hospital). I would report that in writing to your physician of how you know

that is an inappropriate answer to a very real symptom you were having. You were

calling seeking help for a physical symptom and who was she to " diagnose " your

issue over the telephone? I would ask if she is directed to screen all calls

this way (puts ownership of what the office help is doing on the physician).

That office needs some patient advocacy education. THAT person needs a new job.

Dale Ellen

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Hi Janine,

No one should tell you to live with it. There is no living with this pain. I

too am on Methotrexate and my pain has increased. I don't know why it does that

but It does. I want to get off the Methotrexate because the nausea and vomiting

is awful. I take it on Friday's and I am down Friday and Saturday every week

because it makes me so sick. This person is obviously ignorant and insensitive

- living with the pain is not the answer she should give anyone...

Hugs - Vivian

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