Vitamin C

[Guest guest]

Also Twin Labs makes an " Allergy C " which is made from sego palm and

not corn. This can be purchased at many HFS

>

> allergy research and nutricology (same parent company) make

buffered vit c

> from cassava root that i've been taking. the powder is reasonable

cost from

> www.iherb.com

>

> [ ] Re: vitamin C

>

> i take vitamin C as sodium ascorbate (U.S.P). do you think that's

made

> out of corn? how would i find one that has no corn? is there a good

> brand you know??

> thanx .... i never knew about this.

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana,

> I remember that you gave your children high doses of vitamin C for a

> while. How much did you give and for how long?

50,000mg per day for about 2 months. No, that is not a typo. Total

time was approx 5 months.

>> Why did you decide to

> give it to your children?

My son had viruses in his brain. I learned that vitamin C was

required for his body to keep the viruses OUT of his brain.

> Also, what improvements did you see with your children?

Vitamin C eliminated about 80% of the viruses that remained after

OLE/Virastop was completed. Lysine eliminated the other 20%. [i did

high dose vitamin A for the measles virus.]

Dana

[Guest guest]

Dana, What type improvements did you see with your children except

from the lab results, what could you see in their daily life type

improvments?

Thanks!

Sofia

> > Dana,

> > I remember that you gave your children high doses of vitamin C

for a

> > while. How much did you give and for how long?

>

>

> 50,000mg per day for about 2 months. No, that is not a typo. Total

> time was approx 5 months.

>

>

> >> Why did you decide to

> > give it to your children?

>

>

> My son had viruses in his brain. I learned that vitamin C was

> required for his body to keep the viruses OUT of his brain.

>

>

> > Also, what improvements did you see with your children?

>

>

> Vitamin C eliminated about 80% of the viruses that remained after

> OLE/Virastop was completed. Lysine eliminated the other 20%. [i

did

> high dose vitamin A for the measles virus.]

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Dana, What type improvements did you see with your children except

> from the lab results, what could you see in their daily life type

> improvments?

Anti-virals, including vitamin C, caused an increase in language and

social interest, and a significant reduction in visual stims [the

balance of the visuals required other things to eliminate].

Dana

[Guest guest]

Good question. I remember not too long ago there was mention of some

trial going on somewhere in Canada I think. Does anyone remember that

post? I've searched through the messages but can't locate it. thx

>

> Anyone keeping up on the outcomes of recent clinical trials for

Intravenous Vitamin C.

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> > Anyone keeping up on the outcomes of recent clinical trials for

> Intravenous Vitamin C.

>

I don't know about outcome, but there is one going on at CTCA in the midwestern

region.

xxoo

[Guest guest]

Does anyone take additional Vitamin C tablets along with Folic Acid? I am on

Orencia and am taking Folic Acid. I thought about taking additional Vitamin C

but when I looked at the bottle in the store, it said that Vitamin C was for

boosting the immune system. I always thought that if one has RA, the immune

system is out of control. If this is true, wouldn't taking additional Vitamin C

make the immune system more out of control? Just wondering......

Thanks to all for any info....

[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

I take 1000mg of Vitamin C every day and it seems to help me. Vit C doesn't stay

in your system thus the reason for taking it every day. I wouldn't take a higher

dose than that though. Hope that helps.

Best wishes

________________________________

From: Joanne Dubnicka <windey99@...>

Sent: Saturday, 5 September, 2009 22:02:13

Subject: [ ] Vitamin C

Does anyone take additional Vitamin C tablets along with Folic Acid? I am on

Orencia and am taking Folic Acid. I thought about taking additional Vitamin C

but when I looked at the bottle in the store, it said that Vitamin C was for

boosting the immune system. I always thought that if one has RA, the immune

system is out of control. If this is true, wouldn't taking additional Vitamin C

make the immune system more out of control? Just wondering... ...

Thanks to all for any info....

[Guest guest]

Along with a multi-vitamin, I take extra B, C, D, and E. I also take

folic acid, a baby aspirin, lutein, fish oil, magnesium, and calcium.

I just hope some of this does some good. I am lucky enough not to get

frequent infections, even though I'm on an immunosuppressant drug,

Enbrel. The Enbrel suppresses TNF-alpha, and I'm hoping the vitamin C

boosts another aspect of my immune system.

Sue

On Sep 5, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Joanne Dubnicka wrote:

> Does anyone take additional Vitamin C tablets along with Folic

> Acid? I am on Orencia and am taking Folic Acid. I thought about

> taking additional Vitamin C but when I looked at the bottle in the

> store, it said that Vitamin C was for boosting the immune system. I

> always thought that if one has RA, the immune system is out of

> control. If this is true, wouldn't taking additional Vitamin C make

> the immune system more out of control? Just wondering......

>

> Thanks to all for any info....

[Guest guest]

Just a word of caution - make sure any of you that add supplements of ANY kind -

inform your RA doc of what you are doing. I found out the hard way to some

degree. 99.9% of the time, supplements will do nothing but good things sometimes

nothing. But that .01% of the time, they can cause adverse effects. Again - just

inform all of your docs what you are taking. I made the mistake of not

mentioning fish oil capsules & vit E and those happen to make your blood

thinner. If you happen to be on blood thinning meds already - it could possibly

be a problem. There's always something little that I overlook and with all the

bad that seems to run my direction, I found it best to let  your doc know and

sometimes, they will tell you that in " our case (RA) " you can increase some of

these supplements.  JUst a " FYI " 'cause I learned the hard way!!

in SC

> Does anyone take additional Vitamin C tablets along with Folic

> Acid? I am on Orencia and am taking Folic Acid. I thought about

> taking additional Vitamin C but when I looked at the bottle in the

> store, it said that Vitamin C was for boosting the immune system. I

> always thought that if one has RA, the immune system is out of

> control. If this is true, wouldn't taking additional Vitamin C make

> the immune system more out of control? Just wondering... ...

>

> Thanks to all for any info....

[Guest guest]

Hi ; thanks for your " FYI " . It is a good thing to check with our

rheumy's about that. I am on Iron pills, and had to stop my Magnesium

pills. You can't take them at the same time. I did not know that.

Again, thanks. \Wishing you pain free days ahead.

Hugs,

Barbara

>

> > Does anyone take additional Vitamin C tablets along with Folic

> > Acid? I am on Orencia and am taking Folic Acid. I thought about

> > taking additional Vitamin C but when I looked at the bottle in the

> > store, it said that Vitamin C was for boosting the immune system. I

> > always thought that if one has RA, the immune system is out of

> > control. If this is true, wouldn't taking additional Vitamin C make

> > the immune system more out of control? Just wondering... ...

> >

> > Thanks to all for any info....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My rheumy has a list of all of my meds and supplements. At each visit,

the nurse updates the list, going by what I tell her has changed, if

anything. The last time I was there, she printed out a list for me so

that I could put it in my purse. I could have done the same thing, of

course.

Sue

On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:18 PM, wrote:

> Just a word of caution - make sure any of you that add supplements

> of ANY kind - inform your RA doc of what you are doing. I found out

> the hard way to some degree. 99.9% of the time, supplements will do

> nothing but good things sometimes nothing. But that .01% of the

> time, they can cause adverse effects. Again - just inform all of

> your docs what you are taking. I made the mistake of not mentioning

> fish oil capsules & vit E and those happen to make your blood

> thinner. If you happen to be on blood thinning meds already - it

> could possibly be a problem. There's always something little that I

> overlook and with all the bad that seems to run my direction, I

> found it best to let your doc know and sometimes, they will tell

> you that in " our case (RA) " you can increase some of these

> supplements. JUst a " FYI " 'cause I learned the hard way!!

> in SC

[Guest guest]

Hi - thanks for mentioning this. I like to go to either

http://www.medscape.com/druginfo/druginterchecker or

http://www.drugs.com/drug_interactions.php I can input all of the medications

and supplements that I take and it will tell me if there is anything - even the

slightest bit - to be concerned or use caution with. Not all of the doctors or

assistants or even the pharmacists will catch everything. We have to be our own

advocates on so many things.....Doreen

> On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:18 PM, wrote:

>

> Just a word of caution - make sure any of you that add supplements

> of ANY kind - inform your RA doc of what you are doing. I found

> out the hard way to some degree. 99.9% of the time, supplements

> will do nothing but good things sometimes nothing. But that .01% of

> the time, they can cause adverse effects. Again - just inform all

> of your docs what you are taking. I made the mistake of not

> mentioning fish oil capsules & vit E and those happen to make your

> blood thinner. If you happen to be on blood thinning meds already -

> it could possibly be a problem. There's always something little

> that I overlook and with all the bad that seems to run my

> direction, I found it best to let your doc know and sometimes,

> they will tell you that in " our case (RA) " you can increase some of

> these supplements. JUst a " FYI " 'cause I learned the hard way!!

> in SC

[Guest guest]

Thanks for those websites!! I will start using them TODAY!!!

Have a great & pain free day!

>

> Just a word of caution - make sure any of you that add supplements

> of ANY kind - inform your RA doc of what you are doing. I found

> out the hard way to some degree. 99.9% of the time, supplements

> will do nothing but good things sometimes nothing. But that .01% of

> the time, they can cause adverse effects. Again - just inform all

> of your docs what you are taking. I made the mistake of not

> mentioning fish oil capsules & vit E and those happen to make your

> blood thinner. If you happen to be on blood thinning meds already -

> it could possibly be a problem. There's always something little

> that I overlook and with all the bad that seems to run my

> direction, I found it best to let your doc know and sometimes,

> they will tell you that in " our case (RA) " you can increase some of

> these supplements. JUst a " FYI " 'cause I learned the hard way!!

> in SC

[Guest guest]

there are many diffeent forms of Vitamin C--the one my Dr. recommended is

Calcium ascorbate as the best to use. It is the same as the ester C but is

very hard to find with out any Bioflavanoids or flavoring. Laurie

[Guest guest]

Vitamin C is one of the best ways to prevent the Flu or a cold; this is because

Vitmain C is Mother's Nature's Natural AntiBiotic and AntiViral;

>

> there are many diffeent forms of Vitamin C--the one my Dr. recommended is

> Calcium ascorbate as the best to use. It is the same as the ester C but is

> very hard to find with out any Bioflavanoids or flavoring. Laurie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I use Pure Encapsulations brand buffered ascorbic acid. Very helpful for

allergies. I get it from our NAET provider, but I have also found it by

googling on the internet.

Deana K.

>

> there are many diffeent forms of Vitamin C--the one my Dr. recommended is

> Calcium ascorbate as the best to use. It is the same as the ester C but is

> very hard to find with out any Bioflavanoids or flavoring. Laurie

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

According to the British Journal of Cancer (2001) the highest dosages feasible

for intravenous injections nof vitamin C is not adequate for significant cancer

killing. It helps immunity but shouldn´t be promoted as a cancer killer.

www.dragonfly75.com/eng/selfhelp.html

[Guest guest]

Forrest <a57ngel@...> wrote:

<<According to the British Journal of Cancer (2001) the highest dosages feasible

for intravenous injections nof vitamin C is not adequate for significant cancer

killing. It helps immunity but shouldn�t be promoted as a cancer killer.

www.dragonfly75.com/eng/selfhelp.html>>

I don't believe that journal article suggests this, but regardless, that's

totally inaccurate. ORAL vit. (except perhaps liposomal vit. C) can't reach

sufficient blood levels to DIRECTLY kill cancer, but IV vit. C easily can and

does. For more info,

www.nature.com/bjc/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/6605617a.html

Verrax et al., " The association of vitamins C and K3 kills cancer cells mainly

by

autoschizis, a novel form of cell death. Basis for their potential use

as coadjuvants in anticancer therapy. " Eur J Med Chem. 2003 May;38(5):451-7.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12767595

Koh WS et al. Differential effects and transport kinetics of ascorbate

derivatives in leukemia cell lines. Anticancer Res. 1998; 18:4A:2487-2493.

Gilloteaux J, Jamison JM, Arnold D, Neal DR, Summers JL. Morphology and DNA

degeneration during autoschizic cell death in bladder carcinoma T24 cells

induced by ascorbate and menadione treatment. Anat Rec A Discov Mol Cell Evol

Biol. 2006 Jan;288(1):58-83.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/112212061/abstract

Tareen B et al. A 12 week, open label, phase I/IIa study using apatone for the

treatment of prostate cancer patients who have failed standard therapy. Int J

Med Sci. 2008;5(2):62-7

(note: Apatone consists of vit. C and K3)

Noto et al (1989) (study using 100:1 ratio of vit. C to K3)

http://integrativemed.kumc.edu/ivvitaminc.htm

www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v04n19.shtml

www.orthomolecular.org/library/ivccancerpt.shtml (great info by

Ron Hunninghake, M.D. but no citations)

www.orthomolecular.org/library/jom/2000/pdf/2000-v15n04-p201.pdf (“excellent

studyâ€)

www.jaoa.org/cgi/content/full/107/6/212 (phase 1 trial)

“study at the University of Nebraska…cancer patients given continuous…50

grams per day [of vit C] for up to 8 weeks. (*manuscript in preparation.

Casciari JJ, Tempeso MA, Riordan NH. Rodrigues G. P. JA et al)â€

www.dragonfly75.com/eng/vitC.html

Null’s “Vitamin C and the Treatment of Cancer: Abstracts and

Commentary from the Scientific Literature†from TLDP.com (1997) is reprinted

at

www.se1.us/health/vitamin-c/cancer-more.html and

http://nn-no.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=128609430480 & topic=6919

www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/may2007_itn_01.htm

www.lef.org/newsletter/2008/0104_clinical-trial-vitamin-c-non-hodgkin-lymphoma.h\

tm?source=eNewsLetter2008Wk1-2 & key=Article+Exclusive & l=0

www.iconmag.co.uk/alternatives_to_chemotherapy.htm (Dove Clinic)

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20554995 (PC study)

www.aidan-az.com/articles/vitaminc.pdf (Riordans)

www.annieappleseedproject.org/amcolforadin1.html (H. Riordan, 2003)

Riordan, Hugh D. (1997). High-Dose IV Ascorbate as a Cytotoxic Chemotherapeutic

Agent. ACAM.org 1997 Spring Conference, Tampa, FL. (audiotape)

www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/altthrpy.htm

www.canceraction.org.gg/index2.htm

www.healthy.net/scr/news.asp?Id=7915 (NIH)

www.lef.org/news/LefDailyNews.htm?NewsID=2705 & Section=VITAMINS & source=DHB_050914\

& key=Body+ContinueReading

www.lef.org/newsletter/2008/0104_clinical-trial-vitamin-c-non-hodgkin-lymphoma.h\

tm?source=eNewsLetter2008Wk1-2 & key=Article+Exclusive & l=0

www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/may2007_itn_01.htm

www.doctoryourself.com/cancer_hoffer.html

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/0P8RS0qp_N6By7SesKSe2ZA6oS5d45J1Hu2MnLl-60WnwsDCqdP\

ykjWZ8DkmHXVLqr7aaMVjjEr3GS3LJKooIol8TNWRsHVmIaENrg/Intravenous%20Vitamin%20C%20\

as%20Cancer%20Treatment (from /files)

www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris (click " Articles by Date " and 7/21/04 Vit. C

heading)

www.cancerdecisions.com/071804.html (Moss)

http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/2000/pdf/2000-v15n04-p201.pdf (Riordans)

R. Cathcart, Hugh Riordan, N. Riordan, R. Hunninghake, 2008

Cameron E.

Protocol for the use of vitamin C in the treatment of cancer.

Med Hypotheses. 1991 Nov;36(3):190-4. Review.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1787808

Riordan HD, Hunninghake RB, Riordan NH, JJ, Meng X, P, Casciari

JJ, MJ, Miranda-Massari JR, Mora EM, rio N, A.

Intravenous ascorbic acid: protocol for its application and use.

P R Health Sci J. 2003 Sep;22(3):287-90.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14619456 Padayatty SJ, Sun H, Wang Y, Riordan HD,

Hewitt SM, Katz A, Wesley RA, Levine M. Vitamin C pharmacokinetics: implications

for oral and intravenous use.

Ann Intern Med. 2004 Apr 6;140(7):533-7.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15068981

Jaffey M. Vitamin C and cancer: examination of the Vale of Leven trial results

using broad inductive reasoning.

Med Hypotheses. 1982 Jan;8(1):49-84.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7038410

Riordan HD, Riordan NH, JA, Casciari JJ, Hunninghake R, MJ,

Mora EM, Miranda-Massari JR, rio N, A. Intravenous vitamin C as a

chemotherapy agent: a report on clinical cases.

P R Health Sci J. 2004 Jun;23(2):115-8.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15377059

Head KA. Ascorbic acid in the prevention and treatment of cancer. Altern Med

Rev. 1998 Jun;3(3):174-86. Review. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9630735

Padayatty SJ, Levine M. Reevaluation of ascorbate in cancer treatment: emerging

evidence, open minds and serendipity. J Am Coll Nutr. 2000 Aug;19(4):423-5.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10963459

Cameron E, ing L. Supplemental ascorbate in the supportive treatment of

cancer: Prolongation of survival times in terminal human cancer. Proc Natl Acad

Sci U S A. 1976 Oct;73(10):3685-9. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1068480

Cameron E, A. Innovation vs. quality control: an 'unpublishable'

clinical trial of supplemental ascorbate in incurable cancer. Med Hypotheses.

1991 Nov;36(3):185-9. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1787807

Gonin JM et al., Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) in the treatment of cancer.

J Med Soc N J. 1980 Jan;77(1):49. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6928213 (no

abstract)

Pavlovic S, Fraser R. Orthomolecular oncology: a mechanistic view of

intravenous ascorbate's chemotherapeutic activity. P R Health Sci J. 2002

Mar;21(1):39-41. Review.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12013679

Block,Md Mark Mead, MS. “Vitamin C in Alternative Cancer Treatment:

Historical Backgroundâ€. Integrative Cancer Therapies 2(2);2003 pp 147-154.

Padayatty S, Hugh D. Riordan, He Sun. Vitamin C Pharmacokinetics:

Implications for Oral and Intravenous Useâ€. ls of Internal Medicine

2004; 140: 533-537

Tamayo C, MA " Vitamin C as cancer treatment " . Alternative

Therapy in Health & Medicine, 2003 May-Jun;9(3):94-101.

Padayatty S, “Reevaluation of Ascorbate in Cancer Treatment: Emerging

evidence, Open Minds and Serendipity,†Journal of the American College of

Nutrition Vol.19, No.4, 423-425 (2000).

Leonard

[Guest guest]

You may want to look at LypoSpheric Vitamin C by LivOn labs. Each packet is

eqiuvilent to a 10 mg IV Dr Nicholes Gonzalas said at his webinar with Bill

. He is known as one of the number 1 alternative cancer docs. Join

the webinar every other Thurs for any questions on cancer-there is usually only

a couple people there.

[Guest guest]

Vicki: Just wondering what webinar. Dr. is my dr and Bill

had some part in my getting well.

Very curious about this.

Lois

From: vickimarburger

Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011

You may want to look at LypoSpheric Vitamin C by LivOn labs. Each packet is

eqiuvilent to a 10 mg IV Dr Nicholes Gonzalas said at his webinar with Bill

. He is known as one of the number 1 alternative cancer docs. Join

the webinar every other Thurs for any questions on cancer-there is usually only

a couple people there.

[Guest guest]

This video might be of interest to anyone on this group.

http://www.ted.com/talks/william_li.html

Dick