Re: Digest Number 642

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> From: Philip L Comer <philcome@...>

>Subject: Vision

>

>I recall earlier discussions last year about vision problems with CFS.

>Tried to find them in the archives but can't. I notice that when looking

>from close to longer distances in my house my vision is at first blurry

>and takes a while to adjust. Now I don't know if that is just part of

>aging(and I don't wear glasses) or if it's something related to CFS.

>Does anyone else recall prior discussions on this topic?

>Phil

Phil,

Vision problems can be part of autonomic dysfunction which is part of

some CFS cases. I sometimes get blurring like I am looking through sara

wrap. But it never lasts for long. -beth

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> From: Philip L Comer <philcome@...>

>Subject: Wheelchair

I have had to use one on occasion. I was able to get a free one from

someone who had extra old ones and I am always torn between wanting to go

to a museum but having to use it. It always feels worth it afterwards,

but it is embarrassing to adjust to....-B

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Hi Carolyn

As regards to AFO and driving. I started wearing one on right leg and than 3

years later came the left. It will feel strange for a week or two and than it

becames real easy. Made driving easier and i wish i had done it a few years

earlier like drs. wanted me too. You won't have to worry about getting foot

on the brake anymore and slipping like i did. Good luck and best wishes.

Kathy

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In a message dated 12/8/2000 4:41:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

leftythebaker@... writes:

<< As regards to AFO and driving. I started wearing one on right leg and

than 3

years later came the left. It will feel strange for a week or two and than

it

becames real easy. Made driving easier and i wish i had done it a few years

earlier like drs. wanted me too. You won't have to worry about getting foot

on the brake anymore and slipping like i did. Good luck and best wishes.

Kathy >>

I'm curious about how many of you wear an AFO only on one leg. Several years

ago when my right foot finally gave out and my doc prescribed AFOs, I asked

him if I could only wear the one, since the other foot did not give me a

problem. He told me it would be better to wear them on both legs, that I

would have a better gait and would feel better with two AFOs. Have any of

your doctors told you similar? I finally had a triple done on the right foot

and no longer wear AFOs, but wear in shoe orthotics, although I can tell the

left foot is getting weaker, I may have to go back into them later.

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About hand ability;

My hands do cramp or sort of " freeze " with very little

activity anymore. It won't take much to make mine feel

like the tendons are stretched and pulled severely.

Even gripping the steering wheel to drive no further

than three miles from home and back! Needless to say I

can't use hand controls. . and feet and legs can't

drive safely either now. . . so I stay home unless I

really have to get out! Picking up a coffee cup can

" grab " my muscles too like a charley horse in them.

Carolyn I don't cut my meat myself anymore for the

cramps set in gripping utensils in the postion it has

to be in safely. I think this has been a problem for

me since early childhood for I never liked eating

meat. . . and still don't, wonder if that was just

compesation measure so I didnt' have to ask for help

cutting it. . . and my favorite foods are " finger foods " !

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AND MY GOD. " - Helen Keller

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" FRIENDS ARE LIKE PILLARS; SOMETMES THEY LEAN ON YOU; SOMETIMES THEY HOLD YOU

UP! "

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Yes - Left side only for me. Physiatrist never mentioned a reason for two.

EdM

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From: ktbugg54@... <ktbugg54@...>

egroups <egroups>

Date: Friday, December 08, 2000 7:32 PM

Subject: Re: [] Digest Number 642

>In a message dated 12/8/2000 4:41:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>leftythebaker@... writes:

>

><< As regards to AFO and driving. I started wearing one on right leg and

>than 3

> years later came the left. It will feel strange for a week or two and than

>it

> becames real easy. Made driving easier and i wish i had done it a few

years

> earlier like drs. wanted me too. You won't have to worry about getting

foot

> on the brake anymore and slipping like i did. Good luck and best wishes.

> Kathy >>

>

>I'm curious about how many of you wear an AFO only on one leg. Several

years

>ago when my right foot finally gave out and my doc prescribed AFOs, I asked

>him if I could only wear the one, since the other foot did not give me a

>problem. He told me it would be better to wear them on both legs, that I

>would have a better gait and would feel better with two AFOs. Have any of

>your doctors told you similar? I finally had a triple done on the right

foot

>and no longer wear AFOs, but wear in shoe orthotics, although I can tell

the

>left foot is getting weaker, I may have to go back into them later.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I'm curious about how many of you wear an AFO only on one leg.

Several years

> ago when my right foot finally gave out and my doc prescribed AFOs,

I asked

> him if I could only wear the one, since the other foot did not give

me a

> problem. He told me it would be better to wear them on both legs,

that I

> would have a better gait and would feel better with two AFOs. Have

any of

> your doctors told you similar?

>

Hi, . Definitely " No. " In fact, both my orthotist and orthopedic

doc try to preserve what I have without prescribing assistive devices

for as long as possible. Both have the attitude that my body will

tell me when it is time, and I appreciate that. I think their

attitude is that I am the one who lives in my body (no kidding!).

Carolyn

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Hi Laurie...

My daughter just turned 5 last month, and she won't take capsules or

pills...the only way I get her to take " medicine " is by dropper...she is

also a picky eater, so trying to disguise it doesn't work either.

I have seen bits and pieces of what looked like worms but more often I see

candida (yeast) in her movements...she usually flushes before I get a chance

to check it out...and I am not in a habit of using a colinder, so I just pay

more attention to symptoms...As far as nausea, it depends...quite often one

can experience " die-off " symptoms, so it is possible...my daughter has never

complained of that though...It also depends on how bad the infestation

is...there are some natural therapists that believe mega doses of probiotics

are a more gentle way of treating dybiosis...opposed to medication or potent

herbs....

INHIBITION AND ELIMINATION OF PATHOGENIC MICROBES

" There are a few camps of thought on this subject. There are those who

maintain that it is unnecessary to actually kill pathogens, and many of the

herbs used to do so are quite toxic to the liver unless there is sufficient

drainage of the liver and kidneys. For them, just taking probiotics will be

enough to crowd out the pathogens. Advocates of soil based organisms or

homesostatic soil organisms maintain that these stomach-acid resistant

organisms that we used to get from our organic crops are enough to eliminate

all pathogens, including yeast.

Also they maintain just speeding up the digestion and elimination and

ensuring proper absorption of all foods eaten will starve out the pathogens.

In addition inhibitors of microbe metabolism like garlic, chlorophyll and

lemon will decrease pathogen numbers. They suggest practices that inhibit

but do not actually kill pathogens like taking lots of soluble fibre,

drinking lots of water, exercising, brushing (skin) daily and maintaining a

clean liver.

Bland says establishing healthy flora can be achieved by using the

diet alone. He maintains that (brown)rice-based diets are good because rice

is easily and quickly digested so that they are not fermented (eaten) by the

parasites. He, unlike Elaine Gottschall advocates the use of FOS because it

supports symbionts at the expense of pathogens.

However there are those who maintain the pathogens should be actively

killed.... "

from " Nutritional Pathology and the Health Care of the Future " by Stephney

Whillier, RHN,RNCP

She actually taught Pathology at the school I studied nutrition.

Here's to your health :0)

Donna

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>I know about the alcohol being a concern for my kids-what form do

> " you " (those of you who do the wormwood, cloves and BWH)give these

>herbs to your kids in-capsules for the older ones? I don't know if

>(he's seven) will have a problem taking the stuff like that. mI

>presume my older two, ages ten and thirteen will be fine with it as

>far as size goes. If capsules are out, then I have been told it is

>possible to break open capsules(the stuff I have ordered comes in

>capsules)and put everything on toast with honey. Sounds good to me,

>but anyway I am interested to hear how your kids " enjoyed " (or

>otherwise) the taste. Did anybody ever see the parasites expelled in

>the toilet? Many people say depending on the types of infestations

>we can have, of course what the toilet holds may look different. I am

>curious and want to know what I could expect-do you think they could

>ever feel nausious from the cleanse? I know that happens with some

>cleanses of the liver or kidneys, but for kids and this kind of

>cleanse I can't see it being too shocking to the body. Any

>comments?? Thanks again. I appreciate anything you have to tell me.

>Peace,

>Laurie

>

>

>

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Have you tried mixing the powder in apple sause? Sherry Re: Digest Number 642 >My daughter just turned 5 last month, and she won't take capsules or>pills...the only way I get her to take "medicine" is by dropper...Could you consider making tinctures of wormwood, black walnut and cloves.BernadetteSubscription email:mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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>My daughter just turned 5 last month, and she won't take capsules or

>pills...the only way I get her to take " medicine " is by dropper...

Could you consider making tinctures of wormwood, black walnut and cloves.

Bernadette

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hi,very good..i am sending flowers (probably a dish garden for the

home)..ffrom here in philly from the group also..i will be talking to

kathleen tomorrow for the funeral info. laurette(wamlam) and i will be

attending...

sharon,,not sure where you are..kathleen is 10 min away from me..i am in the

chestnut section of phila..

well will keep you posted

joyce

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Kathleen and ,

You have my family's deepest sympathies. My thoughts will be with you daily.

I'm not sure how far away we are from each other in mileage, but if you need

me you can reach me at (610)383-9411,

Sharon Scalies

5 Vinelyn Lane

West wine, PA 19320

My shoulders, my ears, and my heart are here as you need them.

Love, Sharon S. in PA

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Stilligans,

We have just sent Kathleen and a dozen white roses to express our

sympathy and love. They will be delivered on behalf of the group Tuesday.

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RE: Message: 3

Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 11:06:06 -0500

From: ph Bloch <jbloch@...>

Subject: Re: Fw: Digest Number 641 Great Nutrition School

IIRC, Dale was asking for " accredited " programs. This " Bauman College "

doesn't seem to be accredited at all (the .org in the domain, rather

than .edu, should be the first clue).

ph

Whoops! I have EOMF...ph, you are quite correct! Here is the following

statement of their current program.

Q. Are the Bauman College programs accredited?

A. Bauman College is licensed by the Bureau of Consumer Affairs and the Bureau

for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education. Our curriculum is reviewed

every 3 years. Bauman College certifies our graduates with the Federal D.O.T.

recognized titles of Nutrition Educator and Nutrition Consultant.

Bauman College is professionally affiliated with the National Association of

Nutrition Professionals, a non-profit business league representing and

advocating on behalf of natural health-oriented food and nutrition

professionals. They provide their members with business tools and resources,

legislative representation and expanded opportunities for professional growth.

We strongly encourage our students and graduates to join NANP. The NANP website

is www.nanp.org

Blessings,

Whitefire

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Fw: Digest Number 641 Great Nutrition School

>

> Dale,

>

> RE:

>

> Dale Dreher wrote:

>

> Does anyone recommend a home study course for getting Nutritionist

> Certified in some way? ...What companies, online, can you recommend that have

home study nutrition courses, or something in that vein?

> Thank you very much in advance.

>

> Dale Dreher

> dale@...

> Santa , CA

>

> Forget the companies, go for the college, this one to be exact: Bauman College

is what it is now called.

>

> http://www.iet.org/

>

> Look under the distance learning section if the link does not take you there

directly.

>

> Good Luck,

> Whitefire

>

> ==============

> K. Whitefire Felkner, CMT, MAP

> Founder of Vibrant Life Expression

>

> Got a great life, but not quite satisfied?

> Join us for a unique combination of supportive bodywork, coaching and classes

that invite your personal fire of desire to come alive while creating ways to

fully support it.

> For questions, please call: 707 433-8654; 707 548-0436

>

>

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