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I tried ambien once, I had worse nightmares then I do now. So rather have the

creepy nightmares about nasty bugs then the once the really scare the living

death out of me. As for people not getting it, I can relate, told my friend

that I could not help him lift a mower up and he was like its simple you can do

it, I said no, not anymore. I could do it 6 months ago with out an issue, now

my hands hurt too much to pick up anything.

from maryland

[ ] irritating people!

Hi, ya'll - I'm beginning to see what you mean about the people who " just

don't get it " - and it's infuriating! Last week I had lunch with a friend, and

told them I'm letting my real estate license go inactive, as there's simply too

much as a Realtor that I can't do anymore. He was surprised, and asked why -

when I told him it's because of my RA, he said " well, yeah - but what's that got

to do with your JOB?? " Creep. And this morning: another friend, upon being told

that I have RA, said " oh, I have arthritis too - but so what, you just have to

keep on goin' " . It's ridiculous. Sort of like " I have cancer. Oh, I have a cold

too - well, comparable, huh, they both start with a C? " Sheesh !! I say we

should just change the name of the whole disease! Let's make up a NEW one.

And here's my take on those sleepless nights: try AMBIEN on occasion; It's

great.

Marsha

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Ugh! I really hate to admit it but before I got it I thought " RA big whoop who

doesn't have a swollen joint or two? " I try to remember that but I still get

irritated too!!!

Seems every time I'm not feeling well people ask " oh did you catch a cold? "

Nope! Same reason I feel like crud every single day! Maybe in another year

they'll get it?

Probably not.

Candace

No shadows to depress you

Only joys to surround you

Many friends to love you

God himself to bless you

These are my wishes for you,

For today, tomorrow & everyday.

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On Aug 9, 2010, at 3:53 PM, " ladymarsden " <mardar@...> wrote:

> Hi, ya'll - I'm beginning to see what you mean about the people who " just

don't get it " - and it's infuriating! Last week I had lunch with a friend, and

told them I'm letting my real estate license go inactive, as there's simply too

much as a Realtor that I can't do anymore. He was surprised, and asked why -

when I told him it's because of my RA, he said " well, yeah - but what's that got

to do with your JOB?? " Creep. And this morning: another friend, upon being told

that I have RA, said " oh, I have arthritis too - but so what, you just have to

keep on goin' " . It's ridiculous. Sort of like " I have cancer. Oh, I have a cold

too - well, comparable, huh, they both start with a C? " Sheesh !! I say we

should just change the name of the whole disease! Let's make up a NEW one.

>

> And here's my take on those sleepless nights: try AMBIEN on occasion; It's

great.

> Marsha

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Ambien makes me hallucinate. I stay up all night talking and yelling jibberish.

The first 2 nights I took it I couldn't believe how horrible I felt in the

morning. Third night I had my friend Jess stay over and she informed me I'd

locked myself in my bedroom and was having a nonsensical yelling match with....

No one. Yikes!

Candace

No shadows to depress you

Only joys to surround you

Many friends to love you

God himself to bless you

These are my wishes for you,

For today, tomorrow & everyday.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2010, at 9:57 PM, " Massey " <renandstimpy3@...> wrote:

> I tried ambien once, I had worse nightmares then I do now. So rather have the

creepy nightmares about nasty bugs then the once the really scare the living

death out of me. As for people not getting it, I can relate, told my friend that

I could not help him lift a mower up and he was like its simple you can do it, I

said no, not anymore. I could do it 6 months ago with out an issue, now my hands

hurt too much to pick up anything.

>

> from maryland

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my daughter and s-i-l were over for dinner a couple weeks ago. He has a friend

who was recently diagnosed with Crohn's disease and was asking what we knew

about it. I tried to explain it without really alarming him. To my surprise, my

daughter went into a detailed explanation about autoimmune disorders and how

your body attacks itself, etc, then explained my RA and fibro to him. She's 23

and has lived with me being sick since she was 3. I don't know why I was

surprised that she had done so much research and was so knowledgeable, because

she's that kind of person. Then I got to thinking about how many of my friends

had done the same thing. Although I do meet a lot of clueless people, the ones

who DO care enough to educate themselves have been a real blessing in my life. I

am a lucky girl.

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> > Hi, ya'll - I'm beginning to see what you mean about the people who " just

don't get it " - and it's infuriating! Last week I had lunch with a friend, and

told them I'm letting my real estate license go inactive, as there's simply too

much as a Realtor that I can't do anymore. He was surprised, and asked why -

when I told him it's because of my RA, he said " well, yeah - but what's that got

to do with your JOB?? " Creep. And this morning: another friend, upon being told

that I have RA, said " oh, I have arthritis too - but so what, you just have to

keep on goin' " . It's ridiculous. Sort of like " I have cancer. Oh, I have a cold

too - well, comparable, huh, they both start with a C? " Sheesh !! I say we

should just change the name of the whole disease! Let's make up a NEW one.

> >

> > And here's my take on those sleepless nights: try AMBIEN on occasion; It's

great.

> > Marsha

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So many do not realize that RA and what people call arthritis..they are two

different things..btw I have crohns as well

Deb RN

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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:25 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: irritating people!

my daughter and s-i-l were over for dinner a couple weeks ago. He has a

friend who was recently diagnosed with Crohn's disease and was asking what

we knew about it. I tried to explain it without really alarming him. To my

surprise, my daughter went into a detailed explanation about autoimmune

disorders and how your body attacks itself, etc, then explained my RA and

fibro to him. She's 23 and has lived with me being sick since she was 3. I

don't know why I was surprised that she had done so much research and was so

knowledgeable, because she's that kind of person. Then I got to thinking

about how many of my friends had done the same thing. Although I do meet a

lot of clueless people, the ones who DO care enough to educate themselves

have been a real blessing in my life. I am a lucky girl.

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Yes, it's unfortunate how ignorant some people can be. I lost a few so called

friends because I couldn't keep plans. I am lucky to have some friends & family

who try to understand best they can & are very caring.

joey

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Luckily, I do have 2 sons who are very supportive and understanding. I said to

one yesterday that it felt like someone had smacked my hands with hammers, and

he said " Who the hell did that? Point me to him, I'll put him 6 ft. under for

you! " Would that it were so easy!

Marsha

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Yes, it's unfortunate how ignorant some people can be. I lost a few so called

friends because I couldn't keep plans. I am lucky to have some friends & family

who try to understand best they can & are very caring.

joey

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Wow, Deb. that's a lot to deal with at the same time. Is Remicade the biologic

that they use for Crohn's? I hope they're able to keep the symptoms in control

for you. best wishes.

Jane

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In a message dated 8/11/2010 11:27:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

janeatregis@... writes:

Wow, Deb. that's a lot to deal with at the same time. Is Remicade the

biologic that they use for Crohn's? I hope they're able to keep the symptoms in

control for you. best wishes.

Jane

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> So many do not realize that RA and what people call arthritis..they are

two

> different things..btw I have crohns as well

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> Deb RN

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I've had Crohn's for about 40 years -- much of it in remission -- and

developed RA at 64. We did choose Remicade because it's helpful for both Crohn's

and RA.

dd

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Jane,

That's just the beginning of the list, I have adhesive arachnoiditis as

well..and my newest, and the one that has got me at the lowest point I have

ever been at..drummm rollll,,,,(there is a method to my madness) I had a

lovely case of shingles and now have PHN (post herpetic neuralgia) this is

the only pain that I have experienced in my life that is not ameniable to

pain medicine.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE anyone who is on biologics PLEASE take the necessary

precautions to get the shingles vaccine.I would warn my worst enemy to get

this....

YES, I was on remicade for 5 plus years before it finally failed, then went

on to orencia.which was excellent. Unfortunatly I was forced to go off of

all biologics due to the copay cost of 1800.00 a month.,..

Its all good.

MTX has been the best med that I have ever found, and the cheapest by far.

Deb RN

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Behalf Of dgd301@...

Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:04 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: irritating people!

In a message dated 8/11/2010 11:27:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

janeatregis@... <mailto:janeatregis%40> writes:

Wow, Deb. that's a lot to deal with at the same time. Is Remicade the

biologic that they use for Crohn's? I hope they're able to keep the symptoms

in

control for you. best wishes.

Jane

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Deb,

I am on biologics and will take your advice, my grandmother also had shingles

down south where you don't even want to imagine!  It was very painful and she

was in the hospital for a week with it.  I hope you get better and I am

thinking

of you. 

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When my RA symptoms got worse, I was in my last 20 hours of an internship for my

LPN.  My feet, wrist, and hands were so bad I could not walk my 8 hour shifts

or

give medications to patients.  This was over a year ago, and I am still sad

about it, and 10,000 in debt for nothing.  But, the nurse in charge was the

same

way, and told me if I wanted my nursing degree bad enough, I would go through

anything to get it.  Talk about an irritating person! I wanted to tell her to

walk in my shoes for an hour!  I have still not completed my LPN, I still can't

walk even 2 hours and I have alot of fatigue and flu symptoms. 

Oh well, I try to take it day by day,

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> And here's my take on those sleepless nights: try AMBIEN on occasion; It's

great.

Does ambien make it difficult to wake up? For instance, if your smoke detector

alarm was going off, would you hear it? I'm a single parent with two small kids

and I've been afraid to take anything for fear that I wouldn't notice something

happening and my kids would somehow get hurt.

J.

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h'mmm...new name...let's see. how about HAD IT... " Horrible Autoimmune Disorder,

Inflammatory Type " . cuz a lot of days we have just HAD IT. had it with the

disease, had it with dense people, had it with the pain and fatigue.

yep, today I have definitely had it. 14th day of over 100 degree weather, been

on antibiotics for 5 weeks, been constantly sick for the last three months. At

this point I would cheerfully say " screw it " and go be a beach bum somewhere. If

it weren't for the photosensitivity. :o)

hang in there. Like Rich Mullins said, " my friends ain't the way I wish they

would be...they are just the way they are. "

>

> Hi, ya'll - I'm beginning to see what you mean about the people who " just

don't get it " - and it's infuriating! Last week I had lunch with a friend, and

told them I'm letting my real estate license go inactive, as there's simply too

much as a Realtor that I can't do anymore. He was surprised, and asked why -

when I told him it's because of my RA, he said " well, yeah - but what's that got

to do with your JOB?? " Creep. And this morning: another friend, upon being

told that I have RA, said " oh, I have arthritis too - but so what, you just have

to keep on goin' " . It's ridiculous. Sort of like " I have cancer. Oh, I have a

cold too - well, comparable, huh, they both start with a C? " Sheesh !! I say we

should just change the name of the whole disease! Let's make up a NEW one.

>

> And here's my take on those sleepless nights: try AMBIEN on occasion; It's

great.

> Marsha

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Deb,

My rheumy told me that they're not recommending the shingles vaccine

for those of us on immunosuppressant drugs, so I have not pursued it.

I've had shingles once, and my PCP attacked it aggressively so that I

had very little pain, only two or three days. I am thankful that she

knew what meds to give me. My sister had it, and her doctor had her go

back 4 or 5 times. She didn't get in soon after it started, though,

because it was over the Christmas holidays.

My advice is that if you think there's the possibility that you have

shingles, get to a doctor as fast as you can and make sure it's

treated aggressively. I think she gave me a steroid shot, plus an anti-

viral pill, an ointment, and some pain pills. I didn't need very many

of the pain pills.

Sue

On Aug 11, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Deb wrote:

> Jane,

>

> That's just the beginning of the list, I have adhesive arachnoiditis

> as

> well..and my newest, and the one that has got me at the lowest point

> I have

> ever been at..drummm rollll,,,,(there is a method to my madness) I

> had a

> lovely case of shingles and now have PHN (post herpetic neuralgia)

> this is

> the only pain that I have experienced in my life that is not

> ameniable to

> pain medicine.

>

> PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE anyone who is on biologics PLEASE take the

> necessary

> precautions to get the shingles vaccine.I would warn my worst enemy

> to get

> this....

>

> YES, I was on remicade for 5 plus years before it finally failed,

> then went

> on to orencia.which was excellent. Unfortunatly I was forced to go

> off of

> all biologics due to the copay cost of 1800.00 a month.,..

>

> Its all good.

>

> MTX has been the best med that I have ever found, and the cheapest

> by far.

>

> Deb RN

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> Just like everything some people have trouble with Ambien and other

> similar medications. I find Lunesta, which is similar to Ambien to be

> helpful, but only if used in conjunction with pain medications. I've

> taken Lunesta or similar many nights for years. I don't think I have

> ever slept through my alarm or my phone ringing. I've been a bit out

> of it, woke up, turned my alarm off and went back to sleep, only later

> in the morning when I wake up realizing that I had planed to get up

> early for a reason.

Just thinking about getting a really good sleep makes me remember several years

ago when I had to be put to sleep for a medical procedure. My sister brought me

home after I woke up and I got home, went straight to bed, and slept the best

sleep I've slept in many a year. Too bad I can't sleep off anesthesia every

night, that would be wonderful.

J.

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