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Sorry to hear about Aundrea's flare. Hopefully the steroids will quickly

help and she can get off soon. Michele ( 17, pauci & spondy)

flaring again

Well the first pred boost didn't do the trick. As predicted Aundrea

started in with another flare after being off of the steroids for 6

days. She is having wrist, knee, ankle pain and the rash is more

intense than usual. She also has a severe sorethroat and swollen

lymph nodes. I called the rheumy yesterday. They decided to put

her back on the steroids. Starting at just 10 mg this time but

doing the slower taper. Thanks to you guys I was able to question

the doc about dropping her from 5mg to 0. She said some kids do

fine with that??? Anyway drea will now go on 10 for 1 week then 7

then 5 and then drop by 1 mg each week thereafter. They moved our

appointment up so now she will get seen the end of January and they

plan to discuss other treatment options. They believe the Plaquenil

alone is no longer doing the trick. Methotrexate was mentioned.

I am hoping that the steroids will kick in soon. This flare seems

worse than the one she had before the last steroid boost. We have

our church christmas play on Sunday and Aundrea has a leading role.

I sure hope she is feeling better by then.

P.S. I did get some pictures yesterday of Aundreas rash. I thought

it looks just like the picutures of Nicks rash. I am

technoligically challenged but I will try and figure out how to post

them.

(aundrea 9 systemic)

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I think you need to call the rheumy 1st thing in the morning and

insist that they SEE Aundrea tomorrrow. This doctor NEEDS to see her

in a flare to fully understand whats going on.

I have to ask about the rash on her face, what does it look like???

is it butterfly shaped?? have they tested her for lupus????

I'm so sorry that her day went from bad to worse. I hope you get

some answers tomorrow and some relief for Drea.

Hugs Helen and (7,systemic)

-- In , " sonia1md " <sonia1md@y...> wrote:

>

> Well things got worse for Aundrea as the day went on. She came

home

> from school early due to the sorethroat pain and as evening came

the

> rash returned on her face and chest and the joint pain has

returned

> to her wrists, knees and ankles. Her lymph nodes in her neck are

> swollen. Her cheeks are beat red and you would just swear that

she

> has a fever, yet it is normal?

>

> Basically the same thing happened with the last time we tried to

> taper. One week off the pred and everything just comes back.

>

> I guess we will see how things are in the morning. I have a week

to

> go until she sees the rheumy. I kind of hate to make even more

med

> changes with her not seeing the rheumy. As you guys know, this

> rheumy has never even seen her in a flare and all of our med

changes

> have just been made by phone.

>

> Do you think I should just hold out til next Tuesday?

>

> (drea 9 systemic)

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Helen,

The rash on her face looks like what would happen if your child were

outdoors for awhile in the cold. Her cheeks are just BRIGHT red. I

took some more pictures of her with this rash. Generally she just

gets splotches on her cheeks, forehead, neck or chest. Her eyes

were also bloodshot again tonight which tends to coincide with the

joint pain.

It looks like Aundrea will be home from school tomorrow. I will get

our camcorder out and see if I can figure out how to take a picture

of this rash and post it on the site.

They told me that they tested her for lupus when she was first sick

and that she was negative.

The rheumy is only in the hospital on Tuesdays. I don't know where

she is on the other days. I will call tomorrow and find out what

they say. But what if they just call back and tell me to put her

back on pred or to increase the mtx. I mean that has been our

pattern since November. Don't you think that they should either see

her early but if not, do I let them AGAIN change meds without seeing

her?--

- In , " hburger64 " <hburger64@h...> wrote:

>

> -..

>

> I think you need to call the rheumy 1st thing in the morning and

> insist that they SEE Aundrea tomorrrow. This doctor NEEDS to see

her

> in a flare to fully understand whats going on.

>

> I have to ask about the rash on her face, what does it look

like???

> is it butterfly shaped?? have they tested her for lupus????

>

> I'm so sorry that her day went from bad to worse. I hope you get

> some answers tomorrow and some relief for Drea.

>

> Hugs Helen and (7,systemic)

>

> -- In , " sonia1md " <sonia1md@y...> wrote:

> >

> > Well things got worse for Aundrea as the day went on. She came

> home

> > from school early due to the sorethroat pain and as evening came

> the

> > rash returned on her face and chest and the joint pain has

> returned

> > to her wrists, knees and ankles. Her lymph nodes in her neck

are

> > swollen. Her cheeks are beat red and you would just swear that

> she

> > has a fever, yet it is normal?

> >

> > Basically the same thing happened with the last time we tried to

> > taper. One week off the pred and everything just comes back.

> >

> > I guess we will see how things are in the morning. I have a

week

> to

> > go until she sees the rheumy. I kind of hate to make even more

> med

> > changes with her not seeing the rheumy. As you guys know, this

> > rheumy has never even seen her in a flare and all of our med

> changes

> > have just been made by phone.

> >

> > Do you think I should just hold out til next Tuesday?

> >

> > (drea 9 systemic)

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-..

It has to be very frustating not having immediate access to the

doctor. I know if Nick was in the condition Aundrea is right now his

doctor would want to see him ASAP and would go out of her way to do

so.

I would call and see if this doctor is available at a different

hospital. Im sure he doesnt just work one day a week. Im sure he

must have clinic hours somewhere else locally???? I would call and

insist that Aundrea be seen as soon as possible. Even if it means a

little longer drive for you. I would be feeling uncomfortable with

all this medication being prescribed and changed over the phone

without the doctor even seeing her. I would not settle for another

round of putting her back on the pred until her appt next week. We

all know the pred will be a quick fix, but this doctor cannot just

keep doing that. Its just not fair to Aundrea not to have a better

plan.

Good luck, im thinking of you guys...

Hugs Helen and (7,systemic)

-- In , " sonia1md " <sonia1md@y...> wrote:

>

> Helen,

>

> The rash on her face looks like what would happen if your child

were

> outdoors for awhile in the cold. Her cheeks are just BRIGHT red.

I

> took some more pictures of her with this rash. Generally she just

> gets splotches on her cheeks, forehead, neck or chest. Her eyes

> were also bloodshot again tonight which tends to coincide with the

> joint pain.

>

> It looks like Aundrea will be home from school tomorrow. I will

get

> our camcorder out and see if I can figure out how to take a

picture

> of this rash and post it on the site.

>

> They told me that they tested her for lupus when she was first

sick

> and that she was negative.

>

> The rheumy is only in the hospital on Tuesdays. I don't know

where

> she is on the other days. I will call tomorrow and find out what

> they say. But what if they just call back and tell me to put her

> back on pred or to increase the mtx. I mean that has been our

> pattern since November. Don't you think that they should either

see

> her early but if not, do I let them AGAIN change meds without

seeing

> her?--

>

> - In , " hburger64 " <hburger64@h...> wrote:

> >

> > -..

> >

> > I think you need to call the rheumy 1st thing in the morning and

> > insist that they SEE Aundrea tomorrrow. This doctor NEEDS to see

> her

> > in a flare to fully understand whats going on.

> >

> > I have to ask about the rash on her face, what does it look

> like???

> > is it butterfly shaped?? have they tested her for lupus????

> >

> > I'm so sorry that her day went from bad to worse. I hope you get

> > some answers tomorrow and some relief for Drea.

> >

> > Hugs Helen and (7,systemic)

> >

> > -- In , " sonia1md " <sonia1md@y...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Well things got worse for Aundrea as the day went on. She came

> > home

> > > from school early due to the sorethroat pain and as evening

came

> > the

> > > rash returned on her face and chest and the joint pain has

> > returned

> > > to her wrists, knees and ankles. Her lymph nodes in her neck

> are

> > > swollen. Her cheeks are beat red and you would just swear

that

> > she

> > > has a fever, yet it is normal?

> > >

> > > Basically the same thing happened with the last time we tried

to

> > > taper. One week off the pred and everything just comes back.

> > >

> > > I guess we will see how things are in the morning. I have a

> week

> > to

> > > go until she sees the rheumy. I kind of hate to make even

more

> > med

> > > changes with her not seeing the rheumy. As you guys know,

this

> > > rheumy has never even seen her in a flare and all of our med

> > changes

> > > have just been made by phone.

> > >

> > > Do you think I should just hold out til next Tuesday?

> > >

> > > (drea 9 systemic)

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I had a chance to do a little research on Lupus and mixed connective

tissue disorders. Aundrea doesn't have the butterfly rash. The

rash never crosses the bridge of her nose.

This rash is very fleeting. It was so bright and warm all evening

and now about 5 hours later it is completely gone! This happens all

the time. I do know there is a correlation to sunlight. It can

happen at ANY time but is definately worse after being outside.

Aundrea does have a positive ANA. The fist test showed it was a

smooth pattern 1:160 two further tests indicated it to be a speckled

pattern with a titer of 1:320-

The different diagnosis that have been " tossed around " include mixed

connective tissue disorder, autoimmune disorder of some type, and

systemic jra. I looked at the treatment pattern for all of the

diseases and it seems that most start off with the NSAIDS, then

Plaquenil and next pred/mtx.

I wish we knew for sure what was wrong with Aundrea. Its frustrates

me. I want to know that we are providing her with the best type of

treatment to fight whatever disease she has.

(drea 9 systemic)

-- In , " sonia1md " <sonia1md@y...> wrote:

>

> Helen,

>

> The rash on her face looks like what would happen if your child

were

> outdoors for awhile in the cold. Her cheeks are just BRIGHT red.

I

> took some more pictures of her with this rash. Generally she just

> gets splotches on her cheeks, forehead, neck or chest. Her eyes

> were also bloodshot again tonight which tends to coincide with the

> joint pain.

>

> It looks like Aundrea will be home from school tomorrow. I will

get

> our camcorder out and see if I can figure out how to take a

picture

> of this rash and post it on the site.

>

> They told me that they tested her for lupus when she was first

sick

> and that she was negative.

>

> The rheumy is only in the hospital on Tuesdays. I don't know

where

> she is on the other days. I will call tomorrow and find out what

> they say. But what if they just call back and tell me to put her

> back on pred or to increase the mtx. I mean that has been our

> pattern since November. Don't you think that they should either

see

> her early but if not, do I let them AGAIN change meds without

seeing

> her?--

>

> - In , " hburger64 " <hburger64@h...> wrote:

> >

> > -..

> >

> > I think you need to call the rheumy 1st thing in the morning and

> > insist that they SEE Aundrea tomorrrow. This doctor NEEDS to see

> her

> > in a flare to fully understand whats going on.

> >

> > I have to ask about the rash on her face, what does it look

> like???

> > is it butterfly shaped?? have they tested her for lupus????

> >

> > I'm so sorry that her day went from bad to worse. I hope you get

> > some answers tomorrow and some relief for Drea.

> >

> > Hugs Helen and (7,systemic)

> >

> > -- In , " sonia1md " <sonia1md@y...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Well things got worse for Aundrea as the day went on. She came

> > home

> > > from school early due to the sorethroat pain and as evening

came

> > the

> > > rash returned on her face and chest and the joint pain has

> > returned

> > > to her wrists, knees and ankles. Her lymph nodes in her neck

> are

> > > swollen. Her cheeks are beat red and you would just swear

that

> > she

> > > has a fever, yet it is normal?

> > >

> > > Basically the same thing happened with the last time we tried

to

> > > taper. One week off the pred and everything just comes back.

> > >

> > > I guess we will see how things are in the morning. I have a

> week

> > to

> > > go until she sees the rheumy. I kind of hate to make even

more

> > med

> > > changes with her not seeing the rheumy. As you guys know,

this

> > > rheumy has never even seen her in a flare and all of our med

> > changes

> > > have just been made by phone.

> > >

> > > Do you think I should just hold out til next Tuesday?

> > >

> > > (drea 9 systemic)

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  • 4 years later...

Hi group. i dont post to much..But I am again at my whits in..I have been on my

forth medication regiman since being diagnosed in may of 2008..I have been on

plaquinil and enbrel since this may..I am feeling awful but had beenn ignoring

the symptoms because endrel is suppose to be the wonder drug...I see my rheumy

thursday....I had my blood work drawn and seen the results already..My lab

confirmed that I am most likely in aflare..My sedrate last time was 12 and now

it is 65(normal less than 20)..I am so frustrated and the lab work just

confirmed my fear..I have my medrol dose pak and started taking it and I am

geting relief..My guestion is should this be happening on the enbrel? when I go

see him thurday what should I ask or suggest? I dont know right now if it is

time to switch again or wait and see a ittle long how enbrel will work? thanks

group..I know you might be more informative than what my mind is telling me..

diane in ohio

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